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nov. 01 01:11:59 <usradm-pol>	there are people using playonlinux on brazil / sao paulo?
nov. 01 01:12:59 <usradm-pol>	there are packages for debian distro?
nov. 01 01:13:21 <pango>	yup
nov. 01 01:13:28 <pango>	!download
nov. 01 01:13:28 <PlayOnLinux>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
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nov. 01 03:04:09 <rads-pol>	Good night, folks! I am in need of some help with the game The Elder Scrolls IV - Oblivion... I just finshed installing it with POL and now I can't install the last patch (for bugs), even existing an option to install it on the POL Games category... When the installation starts, quickly shows a message saying that the software can't find the file to patch! Please, can anyone help me with this?
nov. 01 03:05:10 <rads-pol>	The Patch version that I'm trying to install is the 1.2.0416, like you can see in the POL Games list!
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nov. 01 03:10:55 <rads-pol>	I find this log about the patch -> Running wine-1.3.29 start /unix /home/rads/Documentos/Jogos/Windows/The Elder Scrolls IV - Oblivion/Patch v1.2.0416.exe (Working directory : /home/rads)
nov. 01 03:11:37 <rads-pol>	Maybe the problem is the "Working directory"... Anyone knows if is possible change it and how to do it?
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nov. 01 03:21:46 <rads-pol>	How can I specify a working directory for a .exe file?! Please!!!!
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nov. 01 06:44:50 <vijai-pol>	hello there
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nov. 01 06:45:35 <vijai>	i need a help in installing msoffice 2010
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nov. 01 11:51:43 <orl>	Hi!
nov. 01 11:51:59 <orl>	Ah oui, on peut parler français, c'est vrai
nov. 01 11:52:34 <orl>	A tout hasard, je cherche à installer Civlization V (pas Gods and Kings, dans un premier temps), mais après plusieurs essais (un en cours en ce moment même), je bloque un peu
nov. 01 11:52:56 <orl>	En pratique, il y a une histoire de steam (il me semblait pourtant qu'on pouvait y jouer sans connection internet, mais bon)
nov. 01 11:53:18 <orl>	j'ai d'abord essayer de l'installer comme ici : http://www.playonlinux.com/fr/topic-3965-Civilization_5.html (avec le CD)
nov. 01 11:53:45 <orl>	mais ça bloque sur steam, après la création du compte (et oui, je n'en avais pas encore, c'est dire si je joue beaucoup), il me dit OK, tout va bien, il y a un bouton suivant, et là, rien à faire
nov. 01 11:54:09 <orl>	du coup, je tente en ce moment même, en partant d'un disque virtuel sur lequel j'ai installé steam via PlayOnLinux directement
nov. 01 11:54:14 <orl>	mais je ne suis pas bien sûr de ce que je fais
nov. 01 11:54:38 <orl>	donc déjà, est-ce que ma démarche est bonne ?
nov. 01 11:55:02 <pango>	(perso aucune idée, je n'utilise pas Steam)
nov. 01 11:55:23 <orl>	Bah oui, moi non plus, je pensais pouvoir m'en passer
nov. 01 11:55:45 <orl>	mais du coup, visiblement, l'installeur de Civlization V l'installe si jamais il n'est pas installé, donc j'imagine qu'il faut les deux d'installé sur le même disque virtuel
nov. 01 11:56:53 <orl>	même chose, je me retrouve avec un steam update et derrière POL qui me dit que Wine semble avoir planté
nov. 01 11:57:14 <orl>	si je ne me trompe pas, ça devrait finir sur la même boîte de dialogue dont je ne peux pas sortir
nov. 01 11:57:43 <orl>	pour info, j'utilise PlayOnLinux pour jouer à Diablo III avec succès, donc ça marche un minimum, mon histoire, quand même
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nov. 01 12:06:19 <orl>	OK, c'est moi qui suis débile, j'avais pas vu qu'il y avait un "installer.exe" et un "setup.exe", le "setup.exe" ayant le logo de Valve, j'imagine qu'il est lié à Steam !
nov. 01 12:06:34 <orl>	donc rebelote avec le installer.exe
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nov. 01 13:19:44 <nio-pol>	hi
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nov. 01 15:13:19 <cri-pol>	someone use  playonlinux with guild wars 2 ?
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nov. 01 15:21:47 <Dani>	ola
nov. 01 15:21:47 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel Dani
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nov. 01 18:57:29 <obi8-pol>	hiho guys
nov. 01 18:57:35 <pango>	hi obi8-pol 
nov. 01 18:57:56 <obi8-pol>	can any say how i can playonlinux update for ubuntu 12.10 quantal gnome remix?
nov. 01 18:58:11 <pango>	!download
nov. 01 18:58:12 <PlayOnLinux>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
nov. 01 18:58:15 <pango>	follow instructions for Precise
nov. 01 18:58:27 <obi8-pol>	ok thanks
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nov. 01 20:15:52 <hubert-pol>	hi
nov. 01 20:16:05 <pango>	hi hubert-pol 
nov. 01 20:16:26 <hubert-pol>	is only one resons why i back to windows and I love linux
nov. 01 20:16:34 <hubert-pol>	is one program as I still can not run on linux
nov. 01 20:16:42 <hubert-pol>	free smal byt base on .net
nov. 01 20:16:47 <hubert-pol>	Flashdevelop
nov. 01 20:17:04 <hubert-pol>	is any chance it will be possible run it from PlayOnLinux
nov. 01 20:17:05 <hubert-pol>	??
nov. 01 20:17:20 <pango>	what is that?
nov. 01 20:17:46 <hubert-pol>	Flashdevelop is free aplication to type as2/as3 hexe
nov. 01 20:17:53 <hubert-pol>	even html or php
nov. 01 20:17:58 <hubert-pol>	but is so good
nov. 01 20:18:08 <hubert-pol>	and is completly free
nov. 01 20:18:28 <pango>	http://www.flashdevelop.org/?
nov. 01 20:18:33 <hubert-pol>	exacly
nov. 01 20:19:16 <hubert-pol>	great news they relese new one
nov. 01 20:19:27 <hubert-pol>	maybe that one will be work on playon linux
nov. 01 20:19:35 <pango>	http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17348
nov. 01 20:19:51 <hubert-pol>	it is really only one program why on earth I going back to windows
nov. 01 20:19:53 <pango>	tests are a bit old
nov. 01 20:20:13 <hubert-pol>	it really dosn't work
nov. 01 20:20:28 <hubert-pol>	one second I will try instal new verison ther release just
nov. 01 20:21:32 <pango>	flashplayer package is currently not working, so if it's needed it'll have to be installed manually
nov. 01 20:22:06 <pango>	as far as I know Java can no longer be downloaded directly either, so it'll have to be installed manually too
nov. 01 20:22:22 <hubert-pol>	what about any internet exproler
nov. 01 20:22:29 <hubert-pol>	is any .pol version ?
nov. 01 20:22:40 <hubert-pol>	as I need brawser with ActiveX
nov. 01 20:22:57 <hubert-pol>	and is look like only IE support it
nov. 01 20:23:00 <pango>	no idea what supports ActiveX, I don't remember ever using it
nov. 01 20:23:44 <hubert-pol>	so is any place where i can see if they have in base files like *.pol
nov. 01 20:23:51 <hubert-pol>	is any program like this ?
nov. 01 20:24:08 <pango>	I don't understand what you mean
nov. 01 20:24:37 <hubert-pol>	when you start instal any program on POL
nov. 01 20:24:53 <hubert-pol>	it ask you for any files with *.pol extension
nov. 01 20:25:10 <hubert-pol>	I just wounder where you can find them ?
nov. 01 20:25:57 <pango>	there's a script repository... But I think .pol extension is a PlayOnLinux 3 thing, so I'm a bit confused
nov. 01 20:26:14 <pango>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/supported_apps.html
nov. 01 20:26:36 <hubert-pol>	are you one of developers of POL ?
nov. 01 20:26:58 <pango>	I contribute to the project, but only slightly on PlayOnLinux code itself
nov. 01 20:27:26 <hubert-pol>	is look like is really good project
nov. 01 20:27:47 <hubert-pol>	I am only programing in AS3
nov. 01 20:27:57 <pango>	it needs a lot more contributors, it's slowing down at the moment
nov. 01 20:28:05 <hubert-pol>	not in c++ or any other and I believe you need to contribute
nov. 01 20:28:19 <pango>	PlayOnLinux is written in Python and Bash
nov. 01 20:28:56 <hubert-pol>	you see , can not help ;(
nov. 01 20:29:27 <pango>	I'm sure you can grasp all you need to know about Bash scripting in a few days
nov. 01 20:29:53 <pango>	that's sufficient to write install scripts
nov. 01 20:30:16 <pango>	but there's always many ways to contribute to a project beside coding
nov. 01 20:30:39 <hubert-pol>	I am polish , I can translate :)
nov. 01 20:30:57 <hubert-pol>	if you need Language support :)
nov. 01 20:31:16 <pango>	PlayOnLinux itself is translated thru Launchpad
nov. 01 20:31:46 <hubert-pol>	you see I am pointless :)
nov. 01 20:31:47 <pango>	there's also a git repository with website translations, I'm not sure of current state of polish strings
nov. 01 20:32:47 <hubert-pol>	ok need to go is look like I have lod version of PalyOnLinux need to update
nov. 01 20:33:33 <hubert-pol>	is any way to do it in PlayOnLInux it self
nov. 01 20:33:35 <hubert-pol>	?
nov. 01 20:33:47 <pango>	how did you install it?
nov. 01 20:33:58 <hubert-pol>	ubuntu reposetorium
nov. 01 20:34:11 <pango>	so you have to install it the same way, it cannot be done from PlayOnLinux itself
nov. 01 20:34:11 <hubert-pol>	Ubuntu software center
nov. 01 20:34:24 <pango>	!download
nov. 01 20:34:24 <PlayOnLinux>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
nov. 01 20:34:34 <hubert-pol>	thank you :)
nov. 01 20:34:52 <hubert-pol>	and thank all who support such a good project :)
nov. 01 20:34:55 <hubert-pol>	speak soon
nov. 01 20:35:11 <pango>	thanks for the team :)
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nov. 01 20:35:39 <donutboy63>	lut
nov. 01 20:35:49 <pango>	salut
nov. 01 20:36:04 <donutboy63>	pas de tinou dans les parages ?
nov. 01 20:36:48 <pango>	il est connecté, mais je ne sais pas s'il est près du clavier
nov. 01 20:37:45 <donutboy63>	exact en absence marqué il est
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nov. 01 20:44:33 <donutboy63>	bye
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nov. 01 20:54:52 <hubert-pol>	hello , I am back
nov. 01 20:55:22 <hubert-pol>	I just check newest version of Flashdevelop what I ask few mintues ago
nov. 01 20:55:27 <hubert-pol>	i upgrade PlayOnLinux
nov. 01 20:55:33 <hubert-pol>	and try isntall :(((
nov. 01 20:55:40 <hubert-pol>	still nothing :(
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nov. 01 20:56:23 <hubert-pol>	is any way to ask - make wish list of programs ?
nov. 01 20:58:45 <hubert-pol>	please , please , please :)
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nov. 01 23:32:28 <Nirtal>	Hi! When I'm trying to start diablo 3 I get a messege "We have detected that your video card is not supported by Diablo III. Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600"
nov. 01 23:32:43 <Nirtal>	But I got a NVIDIA GTX 570 card
nov. 01 23:32:54 <Nirtal>	and the game won't start )=
nov. 01 23:33:53 <Nirtal>	does anyone have an idea how to fix this, I've already tried enabling "GLSL Support" but I still get the same result
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nov. 02 00:10:10 <andrade-pol>	Hy
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nov. 02 01:39:33 <b2coutts>	Hi, I'm trying to run Aion with playonlinux, but it's extremely slow (drops to ~5FPS on lowest settings during battles). I have a GTX 680 (with latest proprietary drivers), and an i5 2500k. I'm guessing the issue is that it's not using my GPU, does anyone know what I could do to fix it?
nov. 02 01:39:48 <b2coutts>	I've been able to run league of legends without issues, so my GPU is somewhat configured properly
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nov. 02 06:42:44 <jugal-pol>	tggfgfg
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nov. 02 11:29:03 <hmw-pol>	blarg?
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nov. 02 11:36:58 <karinto-pol>	Ребят как поставить Counter-Strike Source?
nov. 02 11:36:58 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel karinto-pol
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nov. 02 12:07:05 <Dawid-pom>	hi all
nov. 02 12:07:23 <Dawid-pom>	do you know how to run Diablo 2 on mountain lion? :P
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nov. 02 14:29:52 <tiago-pol>	Can I play medal of honor warfighter on PlayOnLinux?
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nov. 02 15:46:26 <abel-pom>	Hi, I have always love your job to let us to play our favorites games on mac or linux. With playonmac, I play on Shaiya. But there is now a problem. Indeed, shaiya made a new episode, so now, we can't play under virtual machine (the error message, "Sorry, this application cannot run under a virtual machine") Ive send a message to the creators of shaiya, but they don't want to do anything, because "it's not their problem". That's why I 
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nov. 02 16:05:55 <abel-pom>	Maybe, it's not the best place to show my problem I guess
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nov. 02 16:07:53 <fcolinux-pol>	hi
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nov. 02 16:08:08 <gracent>	abel-pom: have you checked the appdb?
nov. 02 16:09:15 <gracent>	hi
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nov. 02 16:39:23 <capibara-pol>	la version de wine normal es la misma que usa playonlinuc
nov. 02 16:40:31 <capibara-pol>	¿La version de wine normal es la misma que usa playonlinux?
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nov. 02 17:13:24 <pithorn-pol>	~
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nov. 02 17:54:57 <makcon4ik-pol>	Здорова бичи :D
nov. 02 17:54:57 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel makcon4ik-pol
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nov. 02 17:58:14 <pango>	Bonsoir Quentin
nov. 02 18:01:30 <pango>	ptinou: tu avais testé Daggerfall sous Mac il me semble ?
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nov. 02 18:10:42 <alex-pol>	hello
nov. 02 18:10:47 <pango>	hi alex-pol 
nov. 02 18:10:57 <alex-pol>	can you help me with photoshop installing?
nov. 02 18:11:20 <pango>	I don't know, what's the problem?
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nov. 02 18:13:27 <alex-pol>	i can t install it
nov. 02 18:13:35 <alex-pol>	:))
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nov. 02 18:13:50 <pango>	I mean, anything more specific than "it doesn't work" or "there's a bug" ?
nov. 02 18:14:06 <larszx-pol>	hallo
nov. 02 18:14:12 <pango>	hi larszx-pol 
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nov. 02 18:15:01 <alex-pol>	lol
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nov. 02 18:37:23 <alex-pol>	hi
nov. 02 18:37:26 <alex-pol>	Error in FS_CheckThe following file is located on a fuse filesystem.It might prevent wine from working
nov. 02 18:37:31 <alex-pol>	what can i do?
nov. 02 18:37:58 <ptinou>	Can you be more precise ?
nov. 02 18:38:01 <ptinou>	what are you doing ?
nov. 02 18:38:11 <alex-pol>	i try to install photoshop
nov. 02 18:38:32 <ptinou>	more precise please.
nov. 02 18:38:36 <alex-pol>	i selected the setup.exe and then appear this..
nov. 02 18:38:51 <ptinou>	where is setup.exe, where does it come from, etc ...
nov. 02 18:38:59 <ptinou>	why is it on a fuse partition
nov. 02 18:39:06 <alex-pol>	is on an external drive
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nov. 02 18:39:20 <ptinou>	then, ignore the message.
nov. 02 18:39:46 <alex-pol>	i ignored, after pressing next show this message
nov. 02 18:39:50 <alex-pol>	installer failed to initialize
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nov. 02 18:40:04 <ptinou>	what version are you installing
nov. 02 18:40:10 <ptinou>	is it an official setup.exe ?
nov. 02 18:40:15 <alex-pol>	yes
nov. 02 18:40:20 <alex-pol>	is the last version on 64 bit
nov. 02 18:40:29 <ptinou>	CS6 is not supported.
nov. 02 18:40:37 <alex-pol>	i have linux mint 13 with also 64 bit
nov. 02 18:40:43 <ptinou>	CS6 is not supported
nov. 02 18:40:57 <alex-pol>	and what version can i install
nov. 02 18:40:58 <alex-pol>	?
nov. 02 18:41:14 <ptinou>	none of them is really supported.
nov. 02 18:45:10 <alex-pol>	hmm, but i saw people use photoshop under linux with playonlinux...
nov. 02 18:45:26 <ptinou>	yep, but we do not support it officially
nov. 02 18:45:33 <ptinou>	because we don't have photoshop, so we can't test it
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nov. 02 18:46:35 <pango>	Bonsoir Quentin
nov. 02 18:46:40 <ptinou>	bonsoir pango
nov. 02 18:46:41 <pango>	ptinou: tu avais testé Daggerfall sous Mac il me semble ?
nov. 02 18:46:45 <ptinou>	ouaip
nov. 02 18:46:49 <ptinou>	ça marchait
nov. 02 18:47:08 <ptinou>	t'as changé un truc ?
nov. 02 18:47:10 <pango>	http://www.playonlinux.com/fr/issue-1479.html il lui manque peut-être une dépendance...
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nov. 02 18:47:17 <pango>	ou alors c'est un problème de pilote
nov. 02 18:47:18 <ptinou>	je vais l'installer
nov. 02 18:47:24 <ptinou>	sur mac t'as pas de pb de pilote
nov. 02 18:47:32 <alex-pol>	can i play dota 2 under pol?
nov. 02 18:47:43 <pango>	disons plutôt que quand il y en a on ne peut pas le corriger
nov. 02 18:47:56 <ptinou>	alex-pol:  nope.
nov. 02 18:48:03 <alex-pol>	:))
nov. 02 18:48:37 <ptinou>	pango:  je test
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nov. 02 19:01:06 <ptinou>	pango:  RAS pour daggerfall chez moi
nov. 02 19:01:37 <pango>	ok... ce qui est embêtant c'est qu'au final de log d'installation ne donne pas beaucoup d'indications... :/
nov. 02 19:01:47 <ptinou>	ben ils donnent pas de sortie terminal ouai
nov. 02 19:02:07 <pango>	pourquoi est-ce qu'on ne loggue que les appels à Wine au fait ?
nov. 02 19:02:54 <ptinou>	ben non on loggue tout
nov. 02 19:03:03 <ptinou>	mais l'erreur elle est au lancement la
nov. 02 19:03:38 <pango>	oui, mais ça peut être un pb d'installation, impossible d'être sûr
nov. 02 19:03:45 <ptinou>	ah
nov. 02 19:03:50 <ptinou>	pourquoi on loggue que wine ?
nov. 02 19:03:53 <ptinou>	parce que c'est POL_Wine qui loggue
nov. 02 19:04:03 <ptinou>	rien ne t'empêche de logguer quelque chose
nov. 02 19:04:34 <pango>	c'est la question, est-ce qu'il y a une raison, technique ou autre, pour ne pas logger le stdout et stderr de l'exécution du script entier?
nov. 02 19:05:01 <ptinou>	ben ouai y'en a
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nov. 02 19:05:14 <ptinou>	parce que les commandes debugs sont dans le script déjà
nov. 02 19:05:58 <pango>	je ne comprend pas bien l'argument
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nov. 02 19:07:05 <ptinou>	ben POL_Debug_Init il est dans le script
nov. 02 19:07:10 <ptinou>	donc tant que le script est pas lancé on peut pas génerer le log
nov. 02 19:08:22 <pango>	on a besoin de quoi, de $TITLE?
nov. 02 19:08:35 <ptinou>	entre autre ouai
nov. 02 19:08:45 <ptinou>	regarde ce que fais POL_Debug_Init
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nov. 02 19:09:44 <pango>	on pourrait faire sans, si on nomme le fichier de log plus tard, ou si on garde la correspondance entre nom de log et $TITLE ailleurs que dans le nom du log
nov. 02 19:10:14 <ptinou>	et l'autre soucis
nov. 02 19:10:20 <ptinou>	on gère comment les POL_Debug_Message ?
nov. 02 19:11:16 <pango>	ben au lieu qu'ils envoient leur message dans le log et stderr, ils l'envoient juste dans stderr, vu que stderr est loggué
nov. 02 19:11:49 <ptinou>	sauf que dans le stderr c'est envoyé en couleur
nov. 02 19:11:56 <ptinou>	ah oui voila
nov. 02 19:11:59 <ptinou>	du coup on voit rien dans le temrinal
nov. 02 19:12:41 <pango>	c'est peut-être au débogueur de parser/coloriser les logs
nov. 02 19:12:58 <ptinou>	je veux dire
nov. 02 19:13:06 <ptinou>	c'est vachement pratique d'avoir les logs dans un terminal aussi parfois
nov. 02 19:13:23 <ptinou>	mais en fait pour toi
nov. 02 19:13:30 <ptinou>	POL_Debug_Init il servirait juste a detecter si faut rediriger ?
nov. 02 19:14:05 <pango>	pour le coup il ne servirait plus à grand chose, faut faire le tri
nov. 02 19:14:28 <ptinou>	il servirait à savoir si oui ou nom en redirige
nov. 02 19:15:02 <pango>	ouais, on pourrait garder ça effectivement
nov. 02 19:16:41 <pango>	bien que lors d'une installation on va toujours logger
nov. 02 19:17:51 <ptinou>	non justement
nov. 02 19:17:55 <ptinou>	tu peux faire ton script perso
nov. 02 19:18:28 <pango>	ah ce sujet, si une installation plante avec playonlinux-bash, je crois qu'il propose de soumettre un bug report
nov. 02 19:24:32 <pango>	(ce n'est pas très grave vu le nombre de personnes qui savent que playonlinux-bash existe, mais tout de même :D)
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nov. 02 19:27:00 <ptinou>	ouai mais bon
nov. 02 19:27:04 <ptinou>	pour nous c'est pas pratique
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nov. 02 19:34:50 <pango>	y'a une grosse promo EA ce weekend sur GOG
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nov. 02 19:38:48 <ptinou>	ha ?
nov. 02 19:38:48 <ptinou>	url ?
nov. 02 19:39:01 <pango>	http://www.gog.com/en/promo/ea_weekend_promo_02_11_12/
nov. 02 19:39:36 <ptinou>	tu as quoi ?
nov. 02 19:40:48 <pango>	Alpha Centauri, SimCity 2000, Dungeon Keeper 2, Theme Hospital, Populous 2, Syndicate, Wing Commander 4, Ultima Underworld 1&2, Nox, Lands of Lore 1&2, Starflight 1&2
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nov. 02 19:43:12 <pango>	Les Ultima j'ai jamais trop accroché, et le 9 est particulièrement mal noté
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nov. 02 19:50:46 <ptinou>	bon plutôt
nov. 02 19:50:48 <ptinou>	tu n'as pas quoi ?
nov. 02 19:50:55 <pango>	lol
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nov. 02 19:59:52 <pango>	par ordre d'intérêt décroissant Lands of Lore 3, les Crusader, Wing Commanders 1-3 et Privateer... Les autres restants je passe, sauf si quelqu'un veut absolument que j'en scripte un ;)
nov. 02 20:02:23 <pango>	ce qui me fait penser qu'il faut que j'avance sur Realms of Arkania...
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nov. 02 20:03:12 <pango>	le script est fait, ne manque que de bons screenshots :p
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nov. 02 20:03:29 <ptinou>	dsl tel
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nov. 02 20:30:12 <orzen_>	Hi Im using to displays and when im starting Diablo3 it choose my second by default. Is there any way to change that ?
nov. 02 20:31:31 <pango>	hi, for now the solution I use is to enable virtual desktop in Wine, set resolution to the one of the screen I want and then setup my window manager to put Wine windows at the right position
nov. 02 20:32:23 <pango>	it seems Wine devs are working on improving screens detections/handling in 1.5.x, but I'm not sure how far they're been to date)
nov. 02 20:32:48 <orzen_>	I see, will try it =)
nov. 02 20:34:28 <orzen_>	But I love the PlayOnLinux concept. So sad that the develop priority for linux in general is bad when it comes to larger corp.
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nov. 02 20:42:11 <orzen>	pango: can you recommend any other settings for diablo3? it feels a bit lagy since i used virtual desktop
nov. 02 20:42:51 <pango>	I don't have that game
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nov. 02 20:43:35 <pango>	did not really notice any slowdown either, then again things get really messy when I forget to run a game in a virtual desktop, so I almost never do it and can't compare
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nov. 02 20:47:56 <iBM_NiKOLAiCH>	Кто тут по-русски?
nov. 02 20:47:56 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel iBM_NiKOLAiCH
nov. 02 20:48:30 <iBM_NiKOLAiCH>	ой-ой-ой, больно надо!
nov. 02 20:48:30 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel iBM_NiKOLAiCH
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nov. 02 20:54:12 <josef-pol>	Hi everybody I have a little problem:When I launch a game there are only stripes and sparkels so there maybe is a problem with the graphics card?
nov. 02 20:54:45 <pango>	hi, gc or its drivers/libs
nov. 02 20:55:01 <pango>	(most likely)
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nov. 02 20:57:43 <josef-pol>	is a ati mobiliti radeon hd 5470
nov. 02 20:58:09 <pango>	check what's the latest Catalyst driver that supports your card
nov. 02 21:01:43 <orzen>	lol tried to configure settings to improve performance on diablo and the game noticed changes on my machine so my account got locked for 3 days :P
nov. 02 21:02:17 <pango>	Add another Blizzard horror story to the pile
nov. 02 21:02:26 <orzen>	i know ...
nov. 02 21:02:44 <orzen>	well i have no problem waiting just annoying :P
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nov. 02 21:17:26 <josef-pol>	playonilux is using the irc chat right?
nov. 02 21:17:42 <pango>	yup, #playonlinux on Freenode network
nov. 02 21:17:51 <josef-pol>	thx
nov. 02 21:17:55 <pango>	np
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nov. 02 21:26:49 <ptinou>	re
nov. 02 21:27:00 <pango>	re
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nov. 02 21:28:52 <ptinou>	c'est quoi ton adresse gog déjà ?
nov. 02 21:29:10 <pango>	pe-gog@concept-micro.com il me semble
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nov. 02 21:36:17 <ptinou>	pango:  c'est bon ?
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nov. 02 21:37:43 <pango>	ptinou: nickel, merci :)
nov. 02 21:37:48 <ptinou>	de rien
nov. 02 21:37:54 <ptinou>	c'est une façon de te de remercier pour le boulot que tu fais
nov. 02 21:37:57 <ptinou>	en quelque sorte
nov. 02 21:38:03 <pango>	yup :)
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nov. 02 21:40:18 <ptinou>	pango:  je peux te demander une mini faveur ?
nov. 02 21:40:23 <ptinou>	chan staff
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nov. 02 22:07:57 <goldie-pol>	hi
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nov. 03 00:27:02 <usuario-pol>	ñlkdf
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nov. 03 00:27:02 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel usuario-pol
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nov. 03 02:49:35 <juventus_ricky-p>	hi
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nov. 03 06:54:31 <ricardo-pol>	hi
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nov. 03 09:30:12 <Cultist>	Are the wine builds used in POL compiled with the gnutls flag, anyone know?
nov. 03 09:35:54 <pango>	Not 100%, all I could find is compilation logs from http://winebuild.playonlinux.com/wine/
nov. 03 09:36:19 <pango>	configure checks and finds gnutls libs, but not sure it means it's used for compilation
nov. 03 09:38:16 <Cultist>	meh, guess I'll find out
nov. 03 09:38:27 <Cultist>	trying to install a program that requires it
nov. 03 09:41:50 <pango>	Wine packages also include some gnutls libs, ex.: http://winebuild.playonlinux.com/wine/wine/linux-x86/wine-1.5.16/wineversion/1.5.16/lib/
nov. 03 09:43:09 <pango>	(I think it solved LoL login on some distros)
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nov. 03 10:38:57 <luis-pol>	Buen dia ... alguien a echado a andar el juego Mu
nov. 03 10:39:23 <luis-pol>	yo lo tengo en Fedora 16 pero no lo puedo hacer andar en otra pc
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nov. 03 10:45:58 <aali83>	Hi guys, I am using backtrack 5 and i can not turn on playonlinux as root
nov. 03 10:46:41 <aali83>	the instructions so far i found on the web are outdated can anyone please tell me how to change this on newest playonlinux
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nov. 03 10:53:02 <pango>	aali83: why would you want to run POL as root?
nov. 03 11:05:00 <aali83>	pango, because i am on backtrack 5 r3 and i dont want to create an alternate account :|
nov. 03 11:05:20 <pango>	running PlayOnLinux as root is not supported
nov. 03 11:05:45 <pango>	and with another distro you'd have that alternate account for free
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nov. 03 12:15:17 <harmgiezen-pom>	I try to install GTA4 but get error because of sound card, any ideas?
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nov. 03 14:47:05 <YOOOOO>	台灣人有在乎
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nov. 03 15:51:40 <kuba-pol>	hi
nov. 03 15:52:04 <kuba-pol>	I cant run Tibia installation on wine 1.43
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nov. 03 17:01:48 -->	You are now talking on #playonlinux
nov. 03 17:01:48 ---	Topic for #playonlinux is PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac Official IRC | http://www.playonlinux.com/ http://www.playonmac.com/ | Latest version: 4.1.8 | Please speak English or French; We may not answer immediately. | We do not support piracy.
nov. 03 17:01:48 ---	Topic for #playonlinux set by aplu!~APLU@2a02-8420-6992-5900-5115-a87b-6639-6726.rev.sfr.net at Fri Sep 21 20:04:37 2012
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nov. 03 17:23:37 <usuario-pol>	lol
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nov. 03 17:24:45 <bultom>	C'etait bref dis donc ... :x
nov. 03 17:33:29 -->	pages-pol (~PlayOnLin@ip-95-221-188-174.bb.netbynet.ru) has joined #playonlinux
nov. 03 17:33:29 <pages-pol>	hi
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nov. 03 17:33:39 <bultom>	Hey
nov. 03 17:33:46 <pages-pol>	install dota 2
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nov. 03 17:34:59 <bultom>	.
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nov. 03 17:58:50 <feychenie-pom>	hello there
nov. 03 17:59:13 <feychenie-pom>	i'm unable to find where to download POL / POM plugins ?
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nov. 03 18:33:45 <Mr7popandre>	hola
nov. 03 18:33:45 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel Mr7popandre
nov. 03 18:33:54 <Mr7popandre>	i'm italian
nov. 03 18:34:26 <bultom>	So speak english ;D
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nov. 03 18:38:52 <Mr7popandre>	how old are you?
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nov. 03 18:44:32 <zebensuy-pol>	hoola
nov. 03 18:44:32 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel zebensuy-pol
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nov. 03 18:50:10 <Mr7popandre>	hola zebe
nov. 03 18:50:10 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel Mr7popandre
nov. 03 18:50:40 ---	You are now known as pango
nov. 03 18:50:41 -NickServ-	This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.
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nov. 03 20:16:15 <hyun-pol>	hello
nov. 03 20:17:50 <pango>	hi
nov. 03 20:23:28 <hyun-pol>	how are you?
nov. 03 20:23:57 <hyun-pol>	what is the topic discussing here about?
nov. 03 20:24:12 <pango>	PlayOnLinux support, mainly
nov. 03 20:24:21 <hyun-pol>	hm..
nov. 03 20:25:09 <hyun-pol>	have you installed microsoft office 2010?
nov. 03 20:25:15 <pango>	nope
nov. 03 20:25:49 <hyun-pol>	what is the coolest windows application installed?
nov. 03 20:25:55 <bultom>	Oh some people alive o/
nov. 03 20:26:00 <hyun-pol>	haha
nov. 03 20:26:19 <pango>	hyun-pol: I'm not sure I understood you question... installed where?
nov. 03 20:26:41 <hyun-pol>	installed on playonlinux.
nov. 03 20:27:03 <hyun-pol>	sorry i wasn't precise.
nov. 03 20:27:04 <pango>	you probably mean that has an installation script or something
nov. 03 20:27:13 <hyun-pol>	nono
nov. 03 20:28:22 <hyun-pol>	just like microsoft office 2010 is good and heavy application which can be installed on playonlinux, right?
nov. 03 20:28:42 <pango>	it has an installation script, yes
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nov. 03 20:29:57 <hyun-pol>	i was asking wether you have any other cool applications which you have installed on playonlinux, ;)
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nov. 03 20:30:11 <pango>	I only use POL for gaming
nov. 03 20:30:34 <bultom>	Office isn't a part of my "cool" applications ;D
nov. 03 20:31:22 <pango>	and mainly install GOG games I wrote install scripts for, I really liked Theme Hospital... Then again it's an MSDOS game :
nov. 03 20:31:23 <pango>	:p
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nov. 03 20:32:45 <pango>	ah, you missed my answers
nov. 03 20:32:48 <pango>	I only use POL for gaming
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nov. 03 20:32:57 <pango>	and mainly install GOG games I wrote install scripts for, I really liked Theme Hospital... Then again it's an MSDOS game :)
nov. 03 20:33:04 <EzpadaZ>	HEY!
nov. 03 20:33:11 <EzpadaZ>	I'm new to this. :l
nov. 03 20:33:14 <bultom>	Hey
nov. 03 20:33:15 <pango>	A cool Windows game... I really liked XIII, but it doesn't work perfect under Win
nov. 03 20:33:17 <pango>	+e
nov. 03 20:33:30 <pango>	hi EzpadaZ (and hi bultom by the way)
nov. 03 20:33:37 <EzpadaZ>	what windows games does this "support"?
nov. 03 20:34:09 <EzpadaZ>	for example, warcraft 3, is fully supported?
nov. 03 20:34:09 <bultom>	I'm playing EuroTruck simulator 2 , but it get a little slow some times :(
nov. 03 20:34:20 <pango>	EzpadaZ: I don't know if "support" is the exact word, but there's script from few hundred games I suppose
nov. 03 20:34:34 <EzpadaZ>	pango, what script? xD
nov. 03 20:34:37 <bultom>	EzpadaZ warcraft is fully supported by wine project himself as far as i can remember :p
nov. 03 20:35:05 <EzpadaZ>	bultom, i have a lot of problems installing it from my cd, and i heard that playonlinux works perfectly with it.
nov. 03 20:35:06 <pango>	EzpadaZ: click Install button and check yourself
nov. 03 20:35:14 <EzpadaZ>	so, i'm giving it a try
nov. 03 20:35:49 <EzpadaZ>	It's loading :P
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nov. 03 20:37:41 <EzpadaZ>	Oh, i have another question. pango
nov. 03 20:38:01 <EzpadaZ>	It keeps telling me that the playonlinux website is unavailable
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nov. 03 20:38:09 <EzpadaZ>	is that, a bug?
nov. 03 20:38:29 <pango>	I'm not aware of that
nov. 03 20:38:32 <bultom>	Works well here
nov. 03 20:38:47 <EzpadaZ>	i'll restart it.
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nov. 03 20:39:57 <EzpadaZ-pol>	okey
nov. 03 20:40:23 <EzpadaZ-pol>	i'm back. and it's connected now
nov. 03 20:40:28 <EzpadaZ-pol>	:D
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nov. 03 20:41:14 <bultom>	^^
nov. 03 20:41:39 <EzpadaZ>	:ohgodwhy:
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nov. 03 20:51:31 <bultom>	pango
nov. 03 20:55:07 <pango>	yup
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nov. 03 20:57:11 <bultom>	tu fais parti du projet PoL pango ?
nov. 03 20:57:45 <pango>	disons que je participe au projet oui, pas énormément au programme lui-même
nov. 03 20:58:40 <pango>	j'ai traduis la doc technique en anglais, j'ai écris la quasi totalité des scripts pour les jeux GOG, je fais du support ici et sur le site, j'aide au debugging...
nov. 03 20:59:18 <bultom>	Ah ok :p
nov. 03 21:00:57 <ptinou>	plop
nov. 03 21:01:03 <pango>	Bonsoir Quentin
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nov. 03 21:02:13 <bultom>	J'arrive pas a lancer NFS MW , c'est fou ca , ca plante cash direct apres le lancement de l'exe
nov. 03 21:02:16 <pango>	http://www.playonlinux.com/fr/issue-1486.html c'est curieux quand même ces créations de disque virtuel qui foirent aléatoirement
nov. 03 21:03:15 <pango>	et pour le coup cette fois on a un log avec une création de disque virtuel
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nov. 03 21:05:17 <pango>	bultom: en le lançant en mode débogage peut-être que ça donnera des indices... sélectionne le raccourci puis clique sur "Débogguer" dans le panneau latéral
nov. 03 21:05:47 <bultom>	pas besoin de cocher debug , vu que je le lance depuis un term , mais y a rien d'exploitable dans le log :/
nov. 03 21:06:06 <pango>	le lancer en débug devrait générer davantage de log
nov. 03 21:06:17 <bultom>	j'ai comparé c'est pareil
nov. 03 21:06:26 <bultom>	mais jveux bien le lancer quand meme atta
nov. 03 21:07:14 <ptinou>	je reviens
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nov. 03 21:07:38 <bultom>	http://pastebin.com/agz27Ztd
nov. 03 21:09:12 <bultom>	(jeu lance avec wine-1.5.16 et .15 , meme dump)
nov. 03 21:10:18 <pango>	et sans rien changer à l'installation créée par le script ?
nov. 03 21:11:02 <bultom>	c'est ca le truc , y a pas de script , du coup j'ai fait une installation "classique" sans rien ajouter d'autre que dx9/10 et .net
nov. 03 21:11:46 <pango>	http://www.playonlinux.com/fr/source-406-Need_For_Speed_Most_Wanted.html ?
nov. 03 21:12:33 <bultom>	vu la date du script , je dirais que c'est pour MW de 2005 ca
nov. 03 21:12:40 <bultom>	pas celui sorti y a 3 jours ;D
nov. 03 21:12:57 <pango>	oh, bon courage pour faire tourner les programmes sortis il y a 3 jours
nov. 03 21:13:15 <bultom>	bah Dishonored tourne "out of the box"
nov. 03 21:13:19 <bultom>	il a 3 semaines :p
nov. 03 21:13:52 <pango>	sûrement, c'est comme jouer à la roulette
nov. 03 21:14:30 <pango>	pour le bug dans ton log, je tombe sur http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24517
nov. 03 21:14:47 <pango>	mais je ne sais pas trop comme interpréter tout ça
nov. 03 21:15:15 <bultom>	ouais jsuis tombé sur le meme thread en cherchant un peu
nov. 03 21:15:49 <pango>	"disabling dxgi.dll" ... ?
nov. 03 21:16:09 <bultom>	jvais essaye de recompiler wine avec le patch en attachement
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nov. 03 21:18:34 <bultom>	le truc pango , c'est que je sais pas comment desactiver un dll dans wine
nov. 03 21:20:30 <pango>	si j'interprète bien ce qu'ils veulent dire, click droit sur le raccourci > Configurer Wine > Onglet Bibliothèques > (sélection de la DLL et Modifier ou Ajout une entrée) > Ordre de chargement = Désactiver
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nov. 03 21:22:23 <bultom>	Running wine-1.5.16 NFS13.exe
nov. 03 21:22:23 <bultom>	err:module:import_dll Library dxgi.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\S-NMW\\NFS13.exe") not found
nov. 03 21:22:25 <bultom>	ahah
nov. 03 21:22:31 <bultom>	jvais tenter le patch du coup :p
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nov. 03 21:31:01 <ptinou>	désolé
nov. 03 21:31:02 <ptinou>	re
nov. 03 21:31:07 <pango>	re
nov. 03 21:32:07 <pango>	je disais, c'est curieux ces créations de préfixe qui foirent aléatoirement... pour une fois on a un log http://www.playonlinux.com/en/issue-1486.html mais rien de particulier...
nov. 03 21:32:31 <ptinou>	comment ça ils foirent ?
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nov. 03 21:32:59 <pango>	11/03/12 11:18:22 - [POL_LoadVar_PROGRAMFILES] Message: Getting Program Files name ... %SystemDrive%\Program Files
nov. 03 21:33:27 <ptinou>	ah ouai
nov. 03 21:33:35 <ptinou>	ça je sais pas d'où ça peut venir
nov. 03 21:33:53 <pango>	c'est quoi qui s'occupe de créer les préfixes maintenant ?
nov. 03 21:34:03 <ptinou>	comment ça ?
nov. 03 21:34:37 <pango>	quel programme
nov. 03 21:34:58 <ptinou>	ben wine
nov. 03 21:35:02 <ptinou>	wineboot
nov. 03 21:35:20 <hardy-pol>	PARDON JE SUIS A BRASILIEN QUI NON PARLE votre idiom. only english
nov. 03 21:35:36 <pango>	hardy-pol: english is fine
nov. 03 21:36:38 <hardy-pol>	and vous, comme sa va
nov. 03 21:36:52 <pango>	ptinou: ok, the one the Wine package provides I assume
nov. 03 21:37:07 <pango>	hardy-pol: I'm fine and you?
nov. 03 21:37:08 <ptinou>	yup
nov. 03 21:38:17 <hardy-pol>	i like much Linux and i yet learning
nov. 03 21:38:54 <pango>	ptinou: POL_Wine_PrefixCreate look a bit more complex than I'd like, it's hard to tell what could go wrong :p
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nov. 03 21:39:40 <ptinou>	ah
nov. 03 21:39:53 <ptinou>	y'a pas grand chose dans cette fonction
nov. 03 21:42:15 <ptinou>	pango:  qu'est ce que tu capte pas ?
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nov. 03 21:42:46 <pango>	le sleep 3 par exemple :p
nov. 03 21:42:55 <ptinou>		sleep 3 # We wait 3 seconds, so that we are sure that .reg file are created
nov. 03 21:43:07 <ptinou>	c'est expliqué :D
nov. 03 21:43:28 <pango>	et ça marche ? :p
nov. 03 21:43:34 <ptinou>	j'avoue que y'a plein de POL_LoadVar_ProgramFIles
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nov. 03 21:45:27 <pango>	Pourquoi wine wineboot et pas POL_Wine wineboot ?
nov. 03 21:45:59 <ptinou>	parce que si tu fais ça ça va boucler
nov. 03 21:46:38 <pango>	y'a un wineprefixcreate aussi dans la sauce
nov. 03 21:46:44 <ptinou>	oui pour les vieilles version de wine
nov. 03 21:46:56 <ptinou>	POL_Wine_PrefixCreate c'est vrai qu'elle est délicate
nov. 03 21:47:02 <ptinou>	mais en gros elle doit gérer pas mal de chose
nov. 03 21:47:06 <pango>	ça peut pas poser souci pour les versions récentes ?
nov. 03 21:47:06 <ptinou>	l'architecture, la version de wine utilisée
nov. 03 21:47:15 <pango>	yup
nov. 03 21:47:18 <ptinou>	sur les versions récentes, wineprefixcreate n'existe pas
nov. 03 21:47:23 <ptinou>	donc si il existe pas => wineboo
nov. 03 21:47:24 <ptinou>	wineboot
nov. 03 21:47:30 <pango>	ok
nov. 03 21:47:40 <ptinou>	et le md5 la c'est un hack debian
nov. 03 21:47:54 <pango>	yep
nov. 03 21:47:58 <pango>	je m'en souviens :)
nov. 03 21:48:14 <ptinou>	mais c'est vrai qu'on pourrait la refaire cette fonction
nov. 03 21:48:19 <ptinou>	mais faudrait réfléchir bien proprement
nov. 03 21:48:51 <pango>	en partant du log du bug report #1486, c'est quoi qui est exécuté
nov. 03 21:48:52 <pango>	?
nov. 03 21:49:15 <ptinou>	alors
nov. 03 21:49:20 <ptinou>	Setting POL_WINEVERSION to 1.5.14
nov. 03 21:49:46 <ptinou>	attends
nov. 03 21:49:56 <ptinou>		if [ ! "$1" = "" ]; then
nov. 03 21:49:59 <ptinou>	la on est ici
nov. 03 21:50:02 <ptinou>	POL_Debug_Message "Setting POL_WINEVERSION to $1"
nov. 03 21:50:10 <ptinou>	ensuite Creating prefix ...
nov. 03 21:50:31 <ptinou>	ensuite
nov. 03 21:50:34 <ptinou>		if [ -e "$WINEPREFIX" ]; then => FAUX
nov. 03 21:50:38 <ptinou>	on passe donc dans le else
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nov. 03 21:50:53 <pango>	arch auto, je croyais que c'était x86 le défaut ?
nov. 03 21:50:59 <ptinou>	ensuite deuxième else
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nov. 03 21:51:00 <ptinou>	oui
nov. 03 21:51:10 <ptinou>	arch auto c'est pas x86
nov. 03 21:51:20 <ptinou>	ensuite il installe la version
nov. 03 21:51:25 <pango>	    [ "$POL_ARCH" = "" ] && POL_System_SetArch "auto"
nov. 03 21:51:33 <pango>	ça me semble curieux
nov. 03 21:51:35 <ptinou>	non c'est auto par défaut
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nov. 03 21:51:43 <ptinou>	ensuite il fait 			POL_Config_PrefixWrite "ARCH" "$POL_ARCH"
nov. 03 21:51:51 <ptinou>	donc la il écris dans le fichier config du prefixe l'info sur l'archi et la version
nov. 03 21:51:55 <ptinou>	ensuite POL_Wine_AutoSetVersionEnv
nov. 03 21:52:14 <ptinou>	qui appelle en gros POL_Wine_SetVersionEnv
nov. 03 21:52:25 <ptinou>	ça ça règle PATH et LD_LIBRARY_PATH
nov. 03 21:52:42 <ptinou>	ensuite wine wineboot
nov. 03 21:52:47 <ptinou>	et ensuite POL_LoadVar_ProgramFiles
nov. 03 21:52:59 <pango>	qu'on doit pouvoir zapper
nov. 03 21:53:23 <ptinou>	oui c'est fait en fin de fonciton
nov. 03 21:53:38 <pango>	mais bon, en gros le truc qui peut foirer c'est le wine wineboot
nov. 03 21:53:38 <ptinou>	d'ailleurs il est fait deux fois
nov. 03 21:53:42 <ptinou>	oui
nov. 03 21:54:26 <pango>	mmmh je suppose qu'on ne peut pas faire un wineserver -w à la place du sleep 3
nov. 03 21:54:38 <pango>	dans des cas comme le wine système Debian, ça serait pire
nov. 03 21:54:45 <ptinou>	on a réglé le pb debian
nov. 03 21:54:59 <pango>	peut-être pas en multiarch, à voir
nov. 03 21:55:01 <ptinou>	je sais pas pourquoi j'ai pas mis ça
nov. 03 21:55:07 <ptinou>	y'a peut être une raison
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nov. 03 22:06:10 <pango>	y'a un wineboot -i, mais je doute que ça fasse une grosse différence
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nov. 03 22:14:03 <pango>	(le lancement de n'importe quel programme étant censé créer le préfixe)
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nov. 03 22:52:57 <ptinou>	wineboot -i ?
nov. 03 22:53:00 <ptinou>	ça sert a quoi ?
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nov. 03 23:03:03 <ike-pol>	hello
nov. 03 23:03:33 <ike-pol>	has anyone succeeded in playing FIFA-13 in linux?
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nov. 04 00:59:29 <jacob-pol>	I have a quick question.
nov. 04 01:00:09 <jacob-pol>	Why is it that when I am running a windows program, on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, it freezes up and quits?
nov. 04 01:00:56 <jacob-pol>	I just want to play slender :(
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nov. 04 01:01:21 <BlackNoxis>	ubuntu is un-debuggable from the sources
nov. 04 01:01:25 <BlackNoxis>	impossible for me to help
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nov. 04 03:16:01 <erik-pol>	guys can some1 please help me
nov. 04 03:16:16 <erik-pol>	i cant install anything on POL
nov. 04 03:16:19 <erik-pol>	i just downloaded it
nov. 04 03:16:41 <erik-pol>	but anything i trie to download freezes at i.e. 22.2 mb out of 22.2 mb or whatver
nov. 04 03:16:57 <erik-pol>	also my window is cut of and i can't read all the buttons
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nov. 04 03:40:56 <xaos-pol>	dragon nest?
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nov. 04 06:39:56 <Pandark>	hello
nov. 04 06:40:02 Pandark PlayOnLinux 
nov. 04 06:40:04 <pango>	hi Pandark 
nov. 04 06:41:37 <Pandark>	i try to install Deux Ex human revolution.. i cant play it because i cant installe directx11
nov. 04 06:41:50 <Pandark>	i on Suse 12.2
nov. 04 06:42:39 <Pandark>	directx11 is not supported with wine ??
nov. 04 06:42:42 <pango>	mmmh let me see if I can install that package
nov. 04 06:42:54 <Pandark>	ok
nov. 04 06:44:35 <pango>	don't know if it works, but d3dx11 package installed without any error messae
nov. 04 06:44:39 <pango>	message*
nov. 04 06:48:02 <pango>	why would you want to install it anyway, the install script for Deus Ex Human Revolution doesn't install it
nov. 04 06:52:01 <Pandark>	i dont have error but when i lunch Deux ex directx11 keep not cochable
nov. 04 06:52:23 <pango>	not sure it can be
nov. 04 06:52:23 <Pandark>	and the game cant it lunch
nov. 04 06:52:44 <pango>	and the script has been tested obviously, so the game can run without dx11 installed
nov. 04 06:53:28 <pango>	do you get any warning about OpenGL when PlayOnLinux starts?
nov. 04 06:53:51 <Pandark>	no
nov. 04 06:54:22 <pango>	ok, could you send installation log to pastebin (or similar service)?
nov. 04 06:55:01 <pango>	Tools > PlayOnLinux debugger
nov. 04 06:57:35 <pango>	(what's displayed in the debugger window is usually partial, better start from log file)
nov. 04 06:59:45 <Pandark>	not information about directx11 in log
nov. 04 06:59:57 <pango>	it does not install it
nov. 04 07:03:01 <Pandark>	I will try when it is no longer in test
nov. 04 07:03:48 <pango>	it may never happen
nov. 04 07:03:52 <Pandark>	ty
nov. 04 07:04:02 <Pandark>	ah...
nov. 04 07:05:40 <pango>	script author had some health problems and did not contribute anything significant in months, even if he's still around; I don't think others have that game
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nov. 04 07:06:45 <Pandark>	oh ok
nov. 04 07:07:16 <pango>	so no guarantees the script will change soon
nov. 04 07:07:52 <pango>	I wouldn't even bet on it :p
nov. 04 07:09:17 <Pandark>	i dont have the choise for a windows installation ...
nov. 04 07:09:44 <pango>	call is yours
nov. 04 07:11:54 <pango>	if there's nothing wrong in install log, a run debug log is the next thing to check
nov. 04 07:12:07 <pango>	select shortcut then click on "Debugging" in the side panel
nov. 04 07:13:17 <pango>	preferably from an installation that matches what the install script does; Adding packages and tweaking things can make things worse
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nov. 04 07:14:13 <Pandark>	http://pastebin.com/UtdVHKr5
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nov. 04 07:18:33 <pango>	http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31861 you could try setting Wine version to 1.5.15 or 1.5.16
nov. 04 07:19:27 <pango>	ah mmmh but he used a patched Wine version with rawinput2 patch mmmh
nov. 04 07:20:00 <pango>	don't know if and how it will work
nov. 04 07:20:48 <Pandark>	ok i go try !
nov. 04 07:24:55 <pango>	another thing that could be done is to check that Wine is not set to emulate Vista or Win7, at it seems to be what triggers this problem
nov. 04 07:25:18 <Pandark>	wine client error:0: version mismatch 426/437.Your wineserver binary was not upgraded correctly,or you have an older one somewhere in your PATH.Or maybe the wrong wineserver is still running?[POL_Wine] Message: Wine return: 1[POL_SetupWindow_Init] Message: Creating new window for pid 22044[main] Error: Deus Ex : Human Revolution crashed.
nov. 04 07:25:43 <pango>	there's probably a wine server process stuck somewhere
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nov. 04 12:07:57 <guest-TBhCUb-pol>	jelou biches
nov. 04 12:08:28 <guest-TBhCUb-pol>	where you download games for this?
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nov. 04 13:13:00 <pango>	Bonjour Quentin
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nov. 04 13:56:07 <ptinou>	salut pierre
nov. 04 13:56:13 <ptinou>	pour ton dernier commit
nov. 04 13:56:13 <pango>	Salut
nov. 04 13:56:18 <ptinou>	t'es sur que le soucis vient de la alors ?
nov. 04 13:56:37 <pango>	Faut tester, vu que le résultat n'est pas déterministe
nov. 04 13:56:49 <ptinou>	ok
nov. 04 13:56:55 <pango>	mais enfin il y a quelques bons indices
nov. 04 13:57:07 <pango>	tout ce que j'espère c'est surtout que ça n'introduise pas de régressions
nov. 04 13:57:13 <ptinou>	ouaip c'est surtout ça
nov. 04 13:57:27 <ptinou>	peut être qu'on pourrait faire un wineserver -k avant la création du préfixe ?
nov. 04 13:57:55 <pango>	normalement si le préfixe n'existait pas, il ne peut pas y avoir de wineserver qui traîne... non?
nov. 04 13:58:05 <ptinou>	si il n'existe pas
nov. 04 13:58:08 <ptinou>	mais souvent il existe
nov. 04 13:58:16 <ptinou>	en fait il faudrait faire une détection installation
nov. 04 13:58:25 <pango>	mais on ne rentre pas dans les mêmes branches des if
nov. 04 13:58:28 <ptinou>	?
nov. 04 13:58:37 <pango>	on teste si le répertoire existe il me semble
nov. 04 13:58:45 <ptinou>	non
nov. 04 13:58:48 <ptinou>	Cf les bugs office 2010
nov. 04 13:58:50 <ptinou>	avec prefix already exist
nov. 04 13:59:12 <ptinou>	il faudrait qu'on trouve un moyen de prévenir l'utilisation que le programme est déjà (mal ?) installé
nov. 04 13:59:19 <pango>	if [ -e "$WINEPREFIX" ]; then ...
nov. 04 13:59:31 <ptinou>	oui mais pas dans POL_SW_PrefixCreate
nov. 04 14:00:34 <pango>	pour l'instant ça tient de la feature :p
nov. 04 14:01:04 <pango>	Comment présenter ça ? "Le disque virtuel existe déjà, tout supprimer ?"
nov. 04 14:01:18 <pango>	Si N => abort
nov. 04 14:01:38 <pango>	Ou Oui/Non/Ecraser
nov. 04 14:02:02 <ptinou>	ben je dirais Ecraser / Annuler perso
nov. 04 14:02:29 <pango>	Est-ce que le comportement actuel n'a pas d'intérêt ?
nov. 04 14:02:36 <ptinou>	non
nov. 04 14:02:44 <ptinou>	j'en vois aucun en tout cas
nov. 04 14:03:04 <pango>	tenter de réparer une install bancale... c'est pas comme si ça n'arrivait pas sous Windows :p
nov. 04 14:03:04 <ptinou>	sauf pour les extensions et patch
nov. 04 14:03:05 <ptinou>	bien sur
nov. 04 14:03:30 <pango>	Oui, mais extensions et patches en général ne font pas de PrefixCreate
nov. 04 14:03:45 <ptinou>	si
nov. 04 14:03:49 <pango>	?
nov. 04 14:03:56 <ptinou>	on le fait systématiquement il me semble
nov. 04 14:04:14 <pango>	tu ne confonds pas avec SelectPrefix ?
nov. 04 14:04:21 <ptinou>	non
nov. 04 14:04:29 <ptinou>	je crois pas
nov. 04 14:05:01 <pango>	faut que je jette un oeil aux autres patches, mais je ne dois pas faire de PrefixCreate dans les miens...
nov. 04 14:05:26 <ptinou>	la aussi
nov. 04 14:05:30 <ptinou>	faudrait reflechir à l'interêt du truc ...
nov. 04 14:05:31 <pango>	if [ "$(POL_Wine_PrefixExists $PREFIX)" != "True" ]; then
nov. 04 14:05:31 <pango>	    POL_Debug_Fatal "$(eval_gettext 'Please install $TITLE_REQUIRED first')"
nov. 04 14:05:31 <pango>	fi
nov. 04 14:05:36 <pango>	POL_Wine_SelectPrefix "$PREFIX"
nov. 04 14:05:54 <ptinou>	on sent clairement qu'il y a besoin de nouvelles fonctions la
nov. 04 14:06:51 <pango>	POL_SetupWindow_checkexist "$PREFIX"    ça existe ça ? ça devait pas être dans la doc :p
nov. 04 14:07:16 <pango>	ah non c'est une fonction locale... Oui clairement faudrait en faire une primitive
nov. 04 14:07:16 <ptinou>	:p
nov. 04 14:07:28 <ptinou>	si tu tiens vraiment à la doc :D
nov. 04 14:07:32 <ptinou>	ça me gène pas du tout que tu la rédige :D
nov. 04 14:07:39 <ptinou>	toutes les fonctions sont documentées dans le code
nov. 04 14:08:00 <pango>	y'a de quoi l'extraire automatiquement ? Si oui, alors ça convient
nov. 04 14:08:22 <ptinou>	y'a un mec qui a fiat un script ouai
nov. 04 14:08:29 <ptinou>	mais je vois pas trop l'interêt
nov. 04 14:09:09 <ptinou>	changement de réseau je reviens
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nov. 04 14:10:16 <pango>	Le problème de la doc dans le code c'est en général le manque de mise en perspective
nov. 04 14:10:51 <ptinou>	certe
nov. 04 14:11:06 <ptinou>	et ça http://www.playonlinux.com/fr/dev-documentation-11.html
nov. 04 14:11:07 <ptinou>	t'as été voir ?
nov. 04 14:11:29 <pango>	Je l'ai un peu traduite en anglais cette page, je te rappelle :p
nov. 04 14:11:35 <ptinou>	ah ouai :D
nov. 04 14:11:43 <pango>	Donc oui je sais qu'elle existe, mais elle est de moins en moins à jour
nov. 04 14:11:49 <ptinou>	normal
nov. 04 14:11:57 <ptinou>	le gros soucis de ce projet c'est son inertie
nov. 04 14:12:04 <ptinou>	on modifie rapidement les programme
nov. 04 14:12:07 <ptinou>	mais les trads elles suivent pas
nov. 04 14:12:20 <pango>	j'irais pas jusqu'à dire que c'est normal, tout au plus que c'est mécanique
nov. 04 14:12:31 <ptinou>	ben pour un projet libre oui
nov. 04 14:12:44 <pango>	Dans notre taf, la production de doc fait partie de la définition de "Done" pour une tâche
nov. 04 14:12:44 <ptinou>	si on était vraiment des pros y'aurait des rédacteurs / traducteur engagés à plein temps
nov. 04 14:13:02 <ptinou>	le soucis c'est que ça multiplie par 5 le temps de travail
nov. 04 14:13:12 <pango>	Je parle pas de trads, mais au moins qu'il y ait une doc en anglais de référence à jour
nov. 04 14:13:15 <ptinou>	parce que faire un commit pour ajouter une fonction, ça prend 30 seconde en général
nov. 04 14:13:30 <ptinou>	mais pour aller chopper la page, toussa, ça prend 10 minutes
nov. 04 14:13:36 <ptinou>	faudrait trouver un moyen de mettre à jour la doc facilement
nov. 04 14:13:37 <pango>	ça prend, aller, 10 ou 20% de temps en plus pour faire les choses bien
nov. 04 14:13:44 <ptinou>	ah non
nov. 04 14:13:49 <ptinou>	moi c'est trois fois plus de temps
nov. 04 14:13:52 <ptinou>	à l'heure actuelle
nov. 04 14:14:07 <ptinou>	parce que la doc est en dure
nov. 04 14:14:12 <ptinou>	c'est chiant
nov. 04 14:14:13 <pango>	Et effectivement, s'il y a moyen d'avoir la doc dans le code et qu'elle soit extraite et mise en forme automatiquement, ça me va tout à fait
nov. 04 14:14:27 <ptinou>	faudrait la mettre en bases surtout
nov. 04 14:14:34 <pango>	tout ce qui simplifie la production d'une doc à jour est bienvenu
nov. 04 14:14:46 <ptinou>	je vais ptete voir ça après mes partielles
nov. 04 14:14:47 <ptinou>	mais ouai
nov. 04 14:14:59 <ptinou>	si tu veux me gagner du temps, tu peux me faire un diagramme de base :D
nov. 04 14:15:07 <ptinou>	quelles bases / quels champs :p
nov. 04 14:15:15 <pango>	Je ne suis pas pour l'utilisation d'une base de données pour de la doc franchement
nov. 04 14:15:24 <ptinou>	ben ce serait pratique
nov. 04 14:15:26 <pango>	Pour le coup si tu veux un truc lourdingue
nov. 04 14:15:45 <ptinou>	ben ça m'éviterait de prendre mon client ssh pour modifier la doc déjà
nov. 04 14:16:06 <ptinou>	y'a pas vraiment d'autres façon de faire
nov. 04 14:16:23 <pango>	Nous pour l'instant on utilise des fichiers au format Sphinx
nov. 04 14:16:50 <ptinou>	oui mais bon
nov. 04 14:16:53 <pango>	Mais c'est une solution parmi d'autres, faut juste se mettre d'accord
nov. 04 14:16:55 <ptinou>	on a ptete pas besoin d'aller jusque la
nov. 04 14:17:46 <pango>	Enfin bref, pour l'instant il faut tester cette modif :p
nov. 04 14:18:01 <ptinou>	ouaip
nov. 04 14:18:05 <pango>	J'ai fais quelques installs, Windows, DOSBox,...
nov. 04 14:18:12 <ptinou>	ça passe ?
nov. 04 14:18:18 <pango>	Pour le moment pas de souci
nov. 04 14:18:32 <ptinou>	faudrait essayer le prefixcreate avec pas mal de versions de wine
nov. 04 14:18:38 <ptinou>	je suis prêt a parier que certaines vont merder sur le program files
nov. 04 14:19:13 <pango>	possible, mais pour le coup faut trouver des scripts qui les utilisent et qui simultanément marchent encore :D
nov. 04 14:19:43 <ptinou>	sinon on peut peut être faire un systeme de detection
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nov. 04 14:22:28 <pango>	j'ai regardé dans l'historique de PrefixCreate, c'était rigolo
nov. 04 14:22:50 <pango>	La version qui se termine avec un POL_LoadVar_PROGRAMFILES dans chaque branche
nov. 04 14:22:59 <pango>	Puis un sleep 3 qui pousse à la fin
nov. 04 14:22:59 <ptinou>	??
nov. 04 14:23:05 <ptinou>	oui
nov. 04 14:23:12 <ptinou>	non mais ça c'est clairement une erreur
nov. 04 14:23:15 <pango>	Pour encore après le POL_LoadVar_PROGRAMFILES final
nov. 04 14:23:33 <ptinou>	ça je sais d'où ça vient
nov. 04 14:23:40 <ptinou>	ça vient d'ajout de couches par dessus le code existant
nov. 04 14:26:52 <pango>	faudrait peut-être redigirer les "which" vers /dev/null, ils ajoutent du bruit, au moins dans la console
nov. 04 14:29:15 <ptinou>	de quels which tu parle ?
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nov. 04 14:33:07 <pango>	wineprefixcreate et wineserver
nov. 04 14:33:26 <ptinou>	ah ouai pas faux
nov. 04 14:33:34 <ptinou>	faudrait crée un POL_Which alors
nov. 04 14:36:03 <pango>	POL_CommandExists peut-être 
nov. 04 14:36:19 <pango>	parce que pour le coup le chemin n'est pas retourné
nov. 04 14:36:32 <ptinou>	ah ouai
nov. 04 14:37:24 <ptinou>	!ping
nov. 04 14:37:25 <PlayOnLinux>	pong
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nov. 04 16:15:47 <Dougie187>	Has anyone else been banned recently from Diablo 3 for (what appears to be) just using linux+PoL+wine?
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nov. 04 16:33:14 <snow_boy-pom>	hi
nov. 04 16:33:35 <pango>	hi snow_boy-pom 
nov. 04 16:33:44 <snow_boy-pom>	how are you?
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nov. 04 16:34:03 <pango>	I'm ok, thank you
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nov. 04 16:35:29 <Dougie187>	lol
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nov. 04 16:45:01 <dhannequin-pol>	hi
nov. 04 16:45:16 <pango>	hi dhannequin-pol 
nov. 04 16:45:54 <dhannequin-pol>	on peus chatter en fr :)
nov. 04 16:46:07 <pango>	c'est permi
nov. 04 16:48:08 <dhannequin-pol>	je viens d'installer playonlinux sur fedora 17
nov. 04 16:48:46 <dhannequin-pol>	mais je n'ai pas réussi à faire une seul installation correcte de Diablo2 ou Baldur Gate
nov. 04 16:50:05 <pango>	envois les logs d'installation sur pastebin (ou un service similaire)
nov. 04 16:50:23 <pango>	Outils > PlayOnLinux debugger
nov. 04 16:50:24 <dhannequin-pol>	mais j'ai peur que cela vienne de ma carte video Intel intégrer au chipset
nov. 04 16:50:39 <pango>	possible, c'est pas exactement ce qui est le mieux supporté sous Linux
nov. 04 16:51:33 <pango>	est-ce que tu obtiens des messages d'alertes concernant OpenGL quand PlayOnLinux démarre ?
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nov. 04 16:52:20 <leo-pol>	jñoh
nov. 04 16:52:20 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel leo-pol
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nov. 04 16:53:21 <dhannequin-pol>	oui j'ai le message
nov. 04 16:53:40 <pango>	il faudrait déjà s'occuper de ça avant d'espérer faire tourner des jeux
nov. 04 16:53:58 <pango>	(et pas que des jeux)
nov. 04 16:54:26 <dhannequin-pol>	mais opengl cela sert pour les carte 3D non ?
nov. 04 16:54:46 <pango>	c'est l'accélération graphique, oui, donc pas que la 3D
nov. 04 16:58:10 <pango>	ou plutôt, c'est l'API pour l'affichage graphique accéléré - derrière c'est implémenté pour partie par le matériel de la carte graphique, pour partie logiciellement, plus ou moins de l'un et de l'autre en fonction de la carte
nov. 04 16:58:54 <Dougie187>	Has anyone ever been banned and subsequently unbanned on diablo 3 for using linux+wine+PoL?
nov. 04 16:59:19 <pango>	les chipsets Intel étant plutôt parmi ceux où seule une petite partie est implémenté par le matériel
nov. 04 16:59:28 <pango>	Dougie187: sorry, I don't play D3
nov. 04 16:59:33 <Dougie187>	sad
nov. 04 16:59:34 <Dougie187>	:(
nov. 04 17:00:22 <dhannequin-pol>	pango
nov. 04 17:00:27 <dhannequin-pol>	pango merci
nov. 04 17:00:35 <dhannequin-pol>	je redémarre playonlinux
nov. 04 17:00:40 <pango>	ok
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nov. 04 17:05:56 <hvad>	re
nov. 04 17:06:06 <pango>	re
nov. 04 17:07:19 <hvad>	pango: par contre je ne comprends pas pourquoi il faut la version 32its
nov. 04 17:07:26 <hvad>	32bits
nov. 04 17:07:55 <pango>	parce que la plupart des programmes installables et des versions de Wine sont 32bits
nov. 04 17:08:12 <pango>	et donc utilisent des bibliothèques 32bits
nov. 04 17:10:23 <hvad>	je n'arrive pas a trouver le bon paquet rpm pour l'opengl 32bits :S
nov. 04 17:12:26 <pango>	je connais très peu RedHat & dérivés
nov. 04 17:13:17 <pango>	http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=281930 ils parlent de yum list | egrep -w "mesa|.i686"  
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nov. 04 17:34:58 <ptinou>	re
nov. 04 17:35:03 <pango>	re
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nov. 04 17:50:36 <giskard_>	hello
nov. 04 17:50:52 <ptinou>	hello
nov. 04 17:51:09 <giskard_>	I have some problem using p2p in the league of legend updater
nov. 04 17:51:28 <giskard_>	it doesn't work (the only connection active is the one with the riot server)
nov. 04 17:52:01 <giskard_>	Using wireshark, I see that there is problems:
nov. 04 17:52:19 <ptinou>	??
nov. 04 17:52:29 <giskard_>	??
nov. 04 17:53:35 <giskard_>	 http://www.kirikoo.net/images/14Anonyme-20121104-175836.png
nov. 04 17:54:05 <ptinou>	it shows that the problem does not come from wine
nov. 04 17:54:24 <giskard_>	well
nov. 04 17:54:31 <giskard_>	why ?
nov. 04 17:54:52 <ptinou>	because otherwise, you would'nt see that the destination is unreachable in wireshark.
nov. 04 17:54:57 <giskard_>	I can directly reach each host directly
nov. 04 17:55:02 <ptinou>	the problem is on a topper level, ie. your computer or your network
nov. 04 17:55:24 <giskard_>	I have a full access to internet, no firewall or something else
nov. 04 17:55:34 <ptinou>	I don't know.
nov. 04 17:55:45 <giskard_>	I can ping (so, icmp, what fails) directly
nov. 04 17:56:08 <ptinou>	it doesn't mean anything.
nov. 04 17:56:29 <ptinou>	it is not because you can ping a host that the port are not blocked
nov. 04 17:56:39 <pango>	giskard_: is the correct region selected?
nov. 04 17:57:41 <giskard_>	pango: yep, eu west
nov. 04 17:58:03 <giskard_>	(I'm here because it takes hours to update lol, at 100ko/s)
nov. 04 17:58:34 <pango>	do bitorrent clients work?
nov. 04 17:58:51 <giskard_>	yep, transmission
nov. 04 17:59:00 <pango>	then I'm running out of ideas
nov. 04 17:59:35 <giskard_>	http://www.kirikoo.net/images/14Anonyme-20121104-180437.png
nov. 04 17:59:39 <ptinou>	League Of Legends needs
nov. 04 17:59:50 <ptinou>	TCP 8393:8400
nov. 04 17:59:54 <ptinou>	UDP 5000:5500
nov. 04 17:59:57 <ptinou>	TCP 2099
nov. 04 17:59:59 <ptinou>	TCP 5222
nov. 04 18:00:01 <ptinou>	TCP 5223
nov. 04 18:00:06 <ptinou>	TCP 5393
nov. 04 18:00:08 <ptinou>	and
nov. 04 18:00:11 <ptinou>	TCP 8088
nov. 04 18:00:19 <giskard_>	well, i'll check that, but i'm in dmz so
nov. 04 18:00:29 <giskard_>	ty
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nov. 04 18:17:37 <giskard>	85KBps (1215MP remaining)
nov. 04 18:17:40 <giskard>	MB*
nov. 04 18:17:48 <giskard>	well...
nov. 04 18:18:04 <giskard>	what do we say to the god of league of legend ?
nov. 04 18:18:24 <pango>	it does not max out the line all the time, specially when dealing with the smallest files
nov. 04 18:18:59 <giskard>	I can download anything else on tpb with something like 2.5mo/s :(
nov. 04 18:19:49 <pango>	upgrading LoL, starting from PlayOnLinux tarball, takes something like 45 minutes here last time I checked
nov. 04 18:20:21 <pango>	it's not exactly fast, but I'm not in a hurry ;)
nov. 04 18:20:27 <giskard>	:)
nov. 04 18:20:49 <giskard>	I used the playonlinux installer, but now there is some kind of updates, which are not in the initial file
nov. 04 18:21:42 <pango>	yes, and the game grows, and grows... it's getting slower by the week to reinstall from scratch
nov. 04 18:22:18 <pango>	(which I do quite often for testing)
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nov. 04 18:53:10 <ced117>	pango, ping ?
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nov. 04 18:58:29 <d4rkh4nd-pol>	Hello, This is my first time using PoL or installing a windows game. I need help installing Runes of magic. I followed a guide on the website but it still dont work
nov. 04 19:02:26 <pango>	Hi, send install logs to pastebin or similar service
nov. 04 19:02:53 <d4rkh4nd-pol>	pango: were can i find the logs ?
nov. 04 19:02:58 <pango>	Tools > PlayOnLinux debugger
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nov. 04 19:03:34 <orl>	Salut
nov. 04 19:03:53 <pango>	Salut
nov. 04 19:04:02 <d4rkh4nd-pol>	I do a search and cant find the debugger
nov. 04 19:04:04 <orl>	J'ai essayé la démo de Civilization V proposée par Steam via playonlinux pendant le week end, et ça fonctionnait cool
nov. 04 19:04:24 <pango>	d4rkh4nd-pol: in Tools menu
nov. 04 19:04:42 <orl>	Comme je projetais aussi d'acheter l'expansion Gods and Kings, idem, j'ai chargé la démo, et là, ça déconnait, pas d'écran de ville, manquait une texture (ou en tout cas, pas moyen de la charger)
nov. 04 19:04:54 <pango>	d4rkh4nd-pol: or, to run a shortcut in debug mode, select shortcut then click on "Debugging" in side panel
nov. 04 19:04:54 <orl>	bref, j'ai abandonné, et j'ai acheté, pour l'instant, uniquement Civilization V, via steam
nov. 04 19:05:31 <orl>	Sauf que maintenant que j'ai le vrai, et plus la démo, je retombe sur cette même erreur, pas de menu de ville, et pas de menu général, et j'ai eu (une fois seulement) le message disant que la texture ne pouvait être chargée.
nov. 04 19:05:40 <orl>	Quelle procédure je dois suivre pour tenter de corriger ça ?
nov. 04 19:05:56 <d4rkh4nd-pol>	I dont have a tool menu i have utilites
nov. 04 19:06:21 <pango>	d4rkh4nd-pol: what's your locale?
nov. 04 19:06:35 <d4rkh4nd-pol>	nvm im a herp derp found it lol
nov. 04 19:07:39 <d4rkh4nd-pol>	http://pastie.org/5182100
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nov. 04 19:10:26 <pango>	d4rkh4nd-pol: ?
nov. 04 19:10:39 <d4rkh4nd-pol>	thats the install script
nov. 04 19:10:46 <pango>	d4rkh4nd-pol: the log stops after PlayOnLinux opened the install window
nov. 04 19:10:53 <orl>	La texture qui n'arrive pas à être chargée c'est CityIcon128.dds, pourtant, elle est bien dans l'arborescence de Steam
nov. 04 19:11:56 <d4rkh4nd-pol>	thats a copy of the hole thing lol idk whats wrong. The updater opens it goes for a while and then progress stops at 1% and it sits there.
nov. 04 19:12:30 <pango>	d4rkh4nd-pol: mmmmh if that's a Steam thing I don't know, I don't use it
nov. 04 19:12:44 <d4rkh4nd-pol>	No its not steam
nov. 04 19:13:07 <pango>	d4rkh4nd-pol: either way, the log must be truncated
nov. 04 19:13:08 <ced117>	bon ok.
nov. 04 19:13:15 <d4rkh4nd-pol>	How can i erase what its dont to restart from begining. I must have messed up some ware
nov. 04 19:13:44 <pango>	d4rkh4nd-pol: did it create a shortcut for the game?
nov. 04 19:13:49 <d4rkh4nd-pol>	no
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nov. 04 19:14:09 <youhua-pol>	hi
nov. 04 19:14:16 <pango>	d4rkh4nd-pol: ok, so Configure button > (select virtual drive of the game) > Remove button (bottom left)
nov. 04 19:14:21 <pango>	hi youhua-pol 
nov. 04 19:14:39 <ced117>	pango, j'ai actuellement un problème et j'essaye d'en trouver l'origine (wine ou playonlinux), je m'explique, avec toutes les versions antérieurs à wine 1.2.11 aucun problème, mais à partir de wine 1.2.12 je reçois des erreurs tel que: http://pastebin.ced117.net/d59a7f6d7
nov. 04 19:14:41 <ced117>	une idée ?
nov. 04 19:14:43 <ced117>	:-)
nov. 04 19:15:02 <ced117>	grr.
nov. 04 19:15:09 <ced117>	1.5.11 1.5.12...
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nov. 04 19:15:30 <pango>	ced117: pour le moins curieux 
nov. 04 19:15:38 <orl>	hmmm, semblerait que ça soit lié au nombre de fichiers ouverts
nov. 04 19:15:43 <orl>	je vais checker ça de suite
nov. 04 19:16:01 <d4rkh4nd-pol>	http://pastie.org/5182129
nov. 04 19:16:12 <ced117>	oui, parce que quand je passe par mon script perso, export wineprefix, wineserver et compagnie, aucun souci
nov. 04 19:16:16 <pango>	ced117: mac?
nov. 04 19:16:19 <ced117>	linux
nov. 04 19:17:22 <ced117>	c'est juste en passant par playonlinux qu'il doit y avoir un problème
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nov. 04 19:18:25 <pango>	ait longtemps que VirtualBox nplanté ma cara sent le reboot...
nov. 04 19:18:45 <ced117>	:-/
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nov. 04 19:22:29 <orl>	Ca pourrait être pas mal de le préciser, ça, il y a un "centre de ressources" Playonlinux quelque part ?
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nov. 04 19:22:41 <orl>	pour les jeux qui n'ont pas de "lanceur officiel"
nov. 04 19:22:47 <pango_>	Je disais donc, ça faisait longtemps que VirtualBox n'avait pas planté ma carte vidéo...
nov. 04 19:23:00 <pango_>	orl: le forum?
nov. 04 19:23:24 <orl>	pango_: OK, j'y pensais, mais je pensais à un truc plus "simple" type wiki, etc. (pour la recherche a posteriori)
nov. 04 19:23:29 <orl>	ok, je vais poster sur le forum
nov. 04 19:24:28 <pango_>	orl: "installations manuelles" si ce n'est pas un script, "Vos créations" pour l'échange de scripts
nov. 04 19:25:01 <orl>	pango_: pour l'instant, ça n'est pas un script
nov. 04 19:25:28 <orl>	on peut soumettre des scripts ? (j'ai jamais essayé, mais ça m'a l'air d'être du scriptage vraiment tout ce qu'il y a de plus usuel)
nov. 04 19:25:54 <orl>	(au passage, un script playonlinux est-il en mesure d'intervenir sur des fichiers systèmes (type /etc/security/limits.conf) ?
nov. 04 19:26:41 <pango_>	ced117: on ne peut pas tirer grand-chose de ce genre de dumps, en tout cas je ne vois rien d'intéressant
nov. 04 19:26:52 <pango_>	orl: PlayOnLinux ne s'exécute pas avec des droits spéciaux
nov. 04 19:27:37 <orl>	oui, et pas moyen d'invoquer un sudo su -c ou gksu ?
nov. 04 19:28:52 <pango_>	orl: il y a une fonction qui permet de présenter une commande à l'utilisateur et, si je me souviens bien, de lui proposer de les taper en tant que root
nov. 04 19:29:00 <ptinou>	non non non
nov. 04 19:29:05 <ptinou>	y'a une seule exception pour sudo
nov. 04 19:29:12 <ptinou>	sinon on ne le fait pas
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nov. 04 19:29:29 <ptinou>	surtout pour modifier la politique de sécurité du système
nov. 04 19:30:43 <orl>	ptinou: oui, c'est sûr que c'est délicat
nov. 04 19:30:57 <orl>	une info (pop-up), ou un truc du genre, alors ?
nov. 04 19:31:05 <ptinou>	je vois pas le pb
nov. 04 19:31:10 <ptinou>	tu cherches a faire quoi ?
nov. 04 19:31:27 <orl>	parce que c'est pas la peine d'écrire un script qui ne fonctionnera de toutes les façons pas, puisque Civlization V, dans sa nouvelle version (nouveau patch) ouvre trop de fichiers
nov. 04 19:31:38 <orl>	ptinou: rien, de mon côté, c'est résolu, c'était juste pour contribuer
nov. 04 19:31:48 <orl>	et écrire éventuellement le script de Civilization V
nov. 04 19:31:52 <orl>	s/de/pour
nov. 04 19:31:57 <ptinou>	ben on ne peut pas faire grand chose contre ça
nov. 04 19:32:13 <pango>	ced117: c'est comme si la variable $DISPLAY était supprimée, mais je ne vois pas comment ça pourrait arriver
nov. 04 19:32:13 <ptinou>	malheuresement
nov. 04 19:33:01 <orl>	ptinou: bah, là, il faut juste ajouter deux lignes à limits.conf (qui n'est pas le fichier le plus sensible de security non plus, et en l'occurrence, ça peut se faire via l'ajout d'un fichier playonlinux.conf dans /etc/security/limits.d/
nov. 04 19:33:18 <orl>	mais je comprends la logique
nov. 04 19:33:20 <orl>	pas de souci
nov. 04 19:33:26 <orl>	j'informe sur le forum, déjà, ça fera une piste
nov. 04 19:33:30 <ptinou>	oui
nov. 04 19:33:33 <ptinou>	mais on peut pas faire ça sinon
nov. 04 19:33:42 <ptinou>	tu peux pas prévoir comment chaque distrib va réagir
nov. 04 19:34:43 <orl>	à quoi ?
nov. 04 19:34:52 <orl>	au fichier limits.conf ?
nov. 04 19:34:54 <ptinou>	oui
nov. 04 19:35:05 <orl>	c'est un fichier qu'on manipule beaucoup en audio pro (c'est mon domaine, plus particulièrement)
nov. 04 19:35:09 <orl>	et ça n'est pas un souci
nov. 04 19:35:17 <ptinou>	tu as testé toutes les distribs du monde ?
nov. 04 19:35:23 <ptinou>	tu es sur qu'elles sont toutes réglées pareil par défaut ?
nov. 04 19:35:23 <orl>	de nombreuses
nov. 04 19:35:33 <orl>	et il suffit d'installer jackd pour qu'il te propose d'y toucher
nov. 04 19:35:37 <ptinou>	ça suffit pas malheuresement
nov. 04 19:35:53 <ptinou>	tu peux pas ajouter une ligne comme ça dans un fichier sans rien regarder
nov. 04 19:36:04 <ptinou>	tu sais pas si l'utilisateur a déjà changé des réglages
nov. 04 19:36:04 <ptinou>	bref
nov. 04 19:36:06 <orl>	non, bien sûr, en vrai tu scannes si elle existe pas avant
nov. 04 19:36:07 <ptinou>	je vais manger
nov. 04 19:36:13 <ptinou>	même si elle existe
nov. 04 19:36:20 <ptinou>	ça pose un tât d'autres soucis
nov. 04 19:36:23 <orl>	mais ça, ça se fait, c'est gérable (cf. installation de jackd sur toutes les distribs)
nov. 04 19:36:43 <orl>	ptinou : ok, je connais pas assez le fonctionnement de PlayOnLinux et de ses scripts pour en débattre
nov. 04 19:36:47 <orl>	et je vais manger aussi
nov. 04 19:37:01 <orl>	mais dans l'absolue, toucher ce fichier ne dépend pas de la distrib
nov. 04 19:37:05 <orl>	s/absolue/absolu
nov. 04 19:37:10 <orl>	bon apétit
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nov. 04 19:42:25 <dave-pom>	I'm having issues with FreeSpace 2 on PlayOnMac
nov. 04 19:43:22 <pango>	I wrote the script, but know next to nothing about Macs
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nov. 04 19:57:49 <ced117>	re
nov. 04 19:58:20 <ced117>	oui, pour le dump, ya pas grand choses, mais je voulais déjà montrer ce qui s'affiche dans la console
nov. 04 19:59:15 <ced117>	la variable $DISPLAY tu dit pango ? Et justement, c'est quel fichier qui s'occupe de lancer les applications/jeux lister sur la page principale de playolinux ?
nov. 04 19:59:35 <pango>	chacun est un fichier dans ~/.PlayOnLinux/shortcuts
nov. 04 19:59:44 <ced117>	oui, ça je suis d'accord
nov. 04 20:00:13 <pango>	Et pour le lancer, mmmh bash/run_app peut-être
nov. 04 20:00:23 <ced117>	ok, vais jeter un coup d'oeil alors
nov. 04 20:00:25 <ced117>	merci
nov. 04 20:00:52 <ptinou>	pourquoi faire?
nov. 04 20:02:10 <ced117>	bah, pour règler mon problème ? :-)
nov. 04 20:03:12 <pango>	ced117: la seule autre chose récente que je vois qui ait un rapport avec l'accès à X est l'ajout de la libxcb dans les paquetages Wine
nov. 04 20:04:16 <ced117>	intéréssant.
nov. 04 20:05:35 <pango>	il faudrait regarder dans les répertoire "lib" dans les versions de Wine, voir s'il y a une corrélation
nov. 04 20:06:03 <pango>	(sait-on jamais)
nov. 04 20:06:20 <ced117>	oui, pas bête.
nov. 04 20:11:26 <ced117>	ah oui, y'a un paquet de fichier en plus comparé à avant :-O
nov. 04 20:14:51 <ced117>	pango, tu veux rire ? ça semble effectivement être un problème avec libxcb. J'ai une fois enlever tout les fichiers en libxcb et ça fonctionne... J'ai plus tout les messages d'avant.
nov. 04 20:15:09 <pango>	c'est ballot :p
nov. 04 20:15:19 <pango>	ptinou: ping
nov. 04 20:16:29 <pango>	ced117: tu peux décrire ton environnement ? distro, architecture,...
nov. 04 20:16:59 <ced117>	Et bien euh, j'utilise la version x86 de wine et j'utilise openSUSE 12.2 en 64bits
nov. 04 20:18:16 <pango>	peut-être une incompatibilité dans les options de compilation, je ne sais pas trop...
nov. 04 20:18:55 <ced117>	oui, possible, ça peut effectivement être beaucoup de choses, reste plus qu'a trouver quoi.
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nov. 04 20:19:41 <crud-pol>	hello
nov. 04 20:19:52 <pango>	hi crud-pol 
nov. 04 20:20:06 <crud-pol>	hey man whats goin on?
nov. 04 20:20:28 <crud-pol>	i just tried this and you appeeared
nov. 04 20:20:28 <pango>	the usual, debugging :D
nov. 04 20:20:42 <crud-pol>	debugging?
nov. 04 20:20:54 <crud-pol>	do you work on Linux OS`s?
nov. 04 20:21:09 <pango>	yes, some regression with the inclusion of libxcb to PlayOnLinux's Wine packages
nov. 04 20:21:21 <crud-pol>	i see
nov. 04 20:21:49 <crud-pol>	well i use wine and play on Linux sometimes
nov. 04 20:22:07 <crud-pol>	somethings work and some dont
nov. 04 20:22:17 <crud-pol>	8)
nov. 04 20:22:33 <crud-pol>	:)
nov. 04 20:22:35 <pango>	crud-pol: yup, well I didn't expect more anyway :p
nov. 04 20:23:23 <crud-pol>	im running Ultimate E#dition 3.4...LTS..based off Ubuntu 12.04
nov. 04 20:23:32 <pango>	reimplementing all windows environment in every detail is just an impossible mission
nov. 04 20:23:47 <crud-pol>	i see
nov. 04 20:24:03 <crud-pol>	i run Windows 8 in Virtual box
nov. 04 20:24:31 <pango>	I stopped using Windows for my personal and professional needs in '96
nov. 04 20:24:41 <crud-pol>	aha
nov. 04 20:25:00 <crud-pol>	i havent used a computer until 2005 LOL
nov. 04 20:25:12 <pango>	only use POL for gaming... Because some games will never be ported
nov. 04 20:25:23 <crud-pol>	then 2006 someone showed me Ubuntu
nov. 04 20:25:44 <crud-pol>	i dont play any games
nov. 04 20:25:55 <crud-pol>	dont have any dont play any
nov. 04 20:26:17 <pango>	I think you're missing something, but that's your call ;)
nov. 04 20:26:52 <crud-pol>	yes maybe bit i have this job and i cant be doing anything if i get hooked on its
nov. 04 20:26:53 <pango>	after all I don't have tv, so we're all making choices :)
nov. 04 20:27:11 <crud-pol>	i dont have a tv
nov. 04 20:27:19 <crud-pol>	there is one here
nov. 04 20:27:26 <crud-pol>	but i dont watch it
nov. 04 20:27:27 <pango>	cool :)
nov. 04 20:27:34 <crud-pol>	i live in an art gallery
nov. 04 20:27:46 <pango>	you have tons of free time then
nov. 04 20:27:55 <crud-pol>	i was evicted last year frommy own place
nov. 04 20:28:08 <crud-pol>	its been a horrible 4 years
nov. 04 20:28:15 <crud-pol>	for me at least
nov. 04 20:28:30 <crud-pol>	i lost almost everything
nov. 04 20:28:47 <crud-pol>	and now my eyesight is goin bad
nov. 04 20:29:02 <crud-pol>	and i dont have health insurance
nov. 04 20:29:17 <crud-pol>	him working it out
nov. 04 20:29:34 <crud-pol>	 i am not himm
nov. 04 20:29:38 <crud-pol>	sorry
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nov. 04 20:30:04 <crud-pol>	well i guess if you call the Creator Him..LOL
nov. 04 20:30:35 <crud-pol>	are you in France?
nov. 04 20:30:47 <pango>	yup, near Bordeaux
nov. 04 20:31:00 <crud-pol>	i see
nov. 04 20:31:15 <crud-pol>	but you write like an English American
nov. 04 20:31:27 <pango>	Working in a finish enterprise
nov. 04 20:31:36 <crud-pol>	i see
nov. 04 20:31:48 <crud-pol>	im in Florida
nov. 04 20:31:55 <crud-pol>	the weather is warm
nov. 04 20:32:10 <crud-pol>	80.6 °F
nov. 04 20:32:31 <crud-pol>	its the good thing about here
nov. 04 20:32:32 <pango>	that's 27°C for us :D
nov. 04 20:32:38 <crud-pol>	wow
nov. 04 20:32:49 <crud-pol>	my friend lives in Poland
nov. 04 20:32:49 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel crud-pol
nov. 04 20:33:03 <pango>	lol
nov. 04 20:33:22 <pango>	was it "Poland" that woke up to bot?
nov. 04 20:33:22 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel pango
nov. 04 20:33:25 <pango>	seems so
nov. 04 20:33:28 <crud-pol>	well i type in English..and who are you?
nov. 04 20:33:48 <pango>	PlayOnLinux is just the channel bot
nov. 04 20:34:14 <crud-pol>	if you dont like me English typing i can switch to Jamaican Patwa
nov. 04 20:34:18 <crud-pol>	:)
nov. 04 20:34:22 <pango>	eheh
nov. 04 20:35:06 <crud-pol>	me a tell de truth ya know Man..ana me come with heart an ting <3
nov. 04 20:35:25 <crud-pol>	Yeh Man
nov. 04 20:35:33 <pango>	:p
nov. 04 20:36:01 <pango>	It's much colder in here, 14°C (57°F) this afternoon
nov. 04 20:36:16 <pango>	still ok I guess
nov. 04 20:36:32 <crud-pol>	yes well i will here it from my Polish ffiend
nov. 04 20:36:39 <crud-pol>	friend
nov. 04 20:36:52 <crud-pol>	she lives near the Baltic sea
nov. 04 20:37:16 <crud-pol>	brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
nov. 04 20:37:41 <pango>	Don't know the whether in Poland, probably much colder, Bordeaux is just ~ 50km from the Atlantic coast
nov. 04 20:37:41 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel pango
nov. 04 20:37:53 <crud-pol>	what is this crap?
nov. 04 20:38:07 <pango>	crud-pol: it's a program
nov. 04 20:38:20 <crud-pol>	a program?
nov. 04 20:38:20 <pango>	crud-pol: it's just looking for keywords
nov. 04 20:38:26 <crud-pol>	what program?
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nov. 04 20:38:30 <crud-pol>	Crap?
nov. 04 20:38:39 <crud-pol>	the crap program
nov. 04 20:38:50 <pango>	crud-pol: PlayOnLinux in this channel is a program, a bot
nov. 04 20:39:00 <crud-pol>	a bot?
nov. 04 20:39:02 <crud-pol>	what bot
nov. 04 20:39:12 <crud-pol>	but?
nov. 04 20:39:17 <crud-pol>	i have a but
nov. 04 20:39:18 <pango>	short for robot
nov. 04 20:39:21 <ptinou>	pango:  pong ?
nov. 04 20:39:26 <crud-pol>	ping
nov. 04 20:39:34 <pango>	ptinou: tu as vu le souci de ced117 avec libxcb ?
nov. 04 20:39:37 <crud-pol>	pango pango
nov. 04 20:39:46 <ptinou>	c'est quoi le soucis ?
nov. 04 20:39:50 <ptinou>	on l'a corrigé le pb de la libxcb
nov. 04 20:39:51 <crud-pol>	me nuh know
nov. 04 20:39:54 <ptinou>	je lui ai fait réinstaller wine
nov. 04 20:40:10 <crud-pol>	wha gwon?
nov. 04 20:40:16 <pango>	ptinou: http://pastebin.ced117.net/d59a7f6d7
nov. 04 20:40:34 <ptinou>	j'ai vu ça oui
nov. 04 20:40:35 <crud-pol>	me   a na play ina game an ting
nov. 04 20:40:36 <ptinou>	mais alors ?
nov. 04 20:40:59 <ptinou>	ça vient d'où donc ?
nov. 04 20:41:10 <pango>	ptinou: on dirait que du coup Wine perd la possibilité de se connecter à X, si je comprend bien
nov. 04 20:41:22 <ptinou>	mais on l'a réglé ce pb
nov. 04 20:41:37 <ptinou>	t'as testé wine 1.5.12 toi ?
nov. 04 20:42:22 <pango>	si j'ai bien compris c'est un problème provoqué par libxcb, pas dont libxcb est la solution
nov. 04 20:42:39 <ptinou>	ced117:  t'as essayé de virer les libxcb ?
nov. 04 20:42:40 <pango>	(j'installe Wine 1.5.12)
nov. 04 20:42:55 <ptinou>	le pb c'est que ced117 l'a installé juste après sa sortie
nov. 04 20:42:57 <ptinou>	et y'avait déjà le pb
nov. 04 20:42:57 <ced117>	ptinou, justement, c'est ça la solution, j'ai virer tout les libxcb et bizarrement ça a fonctionné.
nov. 04 20:43:02 <pango>	<ced117> pango, tu veux rire ? ça semble effectivement être un problème avec libxcb. J'ai une fois enlever tout les fichiers en libxcb et ça fonctionne... J'ai plus tout les messages d'avant.
nov. 04 20:43:02 <ptinou>	donc on avait pas encore mis les libxcb
nov. 04 20:43:16 <ptinou>	ced117: la 1.5.13 est installée ?
nov. 04 20:43:31 <ced117>	cherche pas ptinou, c'est un problème avec les libxcb
nov. 04 20:43:37 <ced117>	oui
nov. 04 20:43:42 <ptinou>	et tu l'as installée quand ?
nov. 04 20:43:43 <ced117>	euh
nov. 04 20:44:06 <ced117>	récemment.
nov. 04 20:44:19 <ptinou>	tu m'avais dis que 1.5.12 tu l'avais isntallé juste après sa sortie
nov. 04 20:44:26 <ptinou>	or, on a mis les libxcb après la sortie de la 1.5.15
nov. 04 20:44:32 <ced117>	c'est pas impossible que je l'ai réinstaller entre temps aussi
nov. 04 20:44:37 <ced117>	mais comme dit
nov. 04 20:44:43 <ced117>	le problème vient de libxcb.
nov. 04 20:44:50 <ptinou>	pango:  faut que tu test
nov. 04 20:45:03 <pango>	j'ai installé la 1.5.12, je teste quoi ?
nov. 04 20:45:11 <ptinou>	ced117: ?
nov. 04 20:45:12 <ced117>	j'ai virér tout les libxcb et ça a fonctionné, j'ai essayé ça avec plusieurs version de wine
nov. 04 20:45:46 <ptinou>	j'ai bien compris ced117 mais ça nous donne pas la solution
nov. 04 20:46:02 <ced117>	oui, ça aussi je sais :-)
nov. 04 20:47:55 <ptinou>	bon je reviens
nov. 04 20:47:56 <ptinou>	a toute
nov. 04 20:48:01 <ced117>	ok, à toute
nov. 04 20:52:00 <crud-pol>	im updating this POL
nov. 04 20:52:14 <crud-pol>	its all Crud
nov. 04 20:52:27 <pango>	yup, 4.0.14 is a year old
nov. 04 20:53:32 <crud-pol>	4.1.8 deb
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nov. 04 20:54:04 <pango>	best course is to add the private repository, so the version doesn't get reverted next time you do an upgrade :)
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nov. 04 20:54:22 <crud-pol>	oops
nov. 04 20:54:28 <pango>	best course is to add the private repository, so the version doesn't get reverted next time you do an upgrade :)
nov. 04 20:54:44 <crud-pol>	i see
nov. 04 20:55:27 <crud-pol>	ill be back
nov. 04 20:55:34 <pango>	:)
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nov. 04 20:57:08 <linux-pol>	hi
nov. 04 20:57:13 <pango>	hi linux-pol 
nov. 04 20:57:55 <linux-pol>	did anyone trye to install freestudio (dvdvideosoft.com) in playonlinux?
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nov. 04 20:58:13 <crud-pol>	i see POL is getting fancy now
nov. 04 20:58:54 <pango>	linux-pol: mmmh it's not mentionned in the AppDB :/
nov. 04 20:59:31 <linux-pol>	right
nov. 04 20:59:36 <crud-pol>	well i dont know about it
nov. 04 21:00:01 <crud-pol>	im just a crudball and use Linux
nov. 04 21:00:14 <linux-pol>	i don't really like it but its good to download many yideos from youtube
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nov. 04 21:00:25 <crud-pol>	i see
nov. 04 21:00:32 <linux-pol>	its easy you just need to paste the links
nov. 04 21:00:44 <crud-pol>	paste the links/
nov. 04 21:00:48 <crud-pol>	?
nov. 04 21:01:05 <pango>	linux-pol: I personally use FlashGOt
nov. 04 21:01:11 <linux-pol>	 i don't really like it but its good to download many yideos from youtube
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nov. 04 21:01:13 <linux-pol>	its easy you just need to paste the
nov. 04 21:01:17 <pango>	http://flashgot.net/
nov. 04 21:01:27 <linux-pol>	i know this addon
nov. 04 21:01:36 <linux-pol>	i'm using downloadhelper
nov. 04 21:01:50 <guadalinex-pol>	soy amine
nov. 04 21:02:18 <pango>	!lng guadalinex-pol 
nov. 04 21:02:19 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english guadalinex-pol
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nov. 04 21:02:47 <carlosj-pol>	hola
nov. 04 21:02:48 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel carlosj-pol
nov. 04 21:02:54 <carlosj-pol>	hi
nov. 04 21:02:59 <pango>	hi carlosj-pol 
nov. 04 21:03:03 <crud-pol>	yes i have flashgot...and download helper
nov. 04 21:03:29 <carlosj-pol>	i need help
nov. 04 21:03:35 <linux-pol>	or is there a linux alternative for orbitdownloader (since i stoped using windows i miss this program)
nov. 04 21:03:42 <pango>	carlosj-pol: shoot
nov. 04 21:03:55 <carlosj-pol>	with this program
nov. 04 21:04:38 <pango>	carlosj-pol: anything specific?
nov. 04 21:05:07 <linux-pol>	?
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nov. 04 21:06:06 <crud-pol>	orbit downloader?
nov. 04 21:06:32 <pango>	crud-pol: again some kind of media ripper
nov. 04 21:06:49 <crud-pol>	i see
nov. 04 21:06:51 <carlosj-pol>	i install itunes to test, but will not et me play anything
nov. 04 21:07:01 <pango>	crud-pol: but I don't know it so I can't tell what program would have a similar ergonomy
nov. 04 21:07:09 <crud-pol>	transmageedon
nov. 04 21:07:19 <pango>	crud-pol: he left anyway
nov. 04 21:08:37 <crud-pol>	http://www.linuxrising.org/
nov. 04 21:08:44 <pango>	carlosj-pol: could be some conflict with pulseaudio, maybe... try pulseaudio -k in a terminal before starting it
nov. 04 21:09:14 <carlosj-pol>	ok
nov. 04 21:09:19 <carlosj-pol>	thanks
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nov. 04 21:09:45 <pango>	crud-pol: not sure that's exactly what he was looking for, more like a browser plugin to rip off musics and videos
nov. 04 21:10:01 <crud-pol>	i see
nov. 04 21:10:19 <crud-pol>	well download helper is good in Firefox
nov. 04 21:10:20 <pango>	carlosj-pol: if you upgrade PlayOnLinux, you can also try iTunes 10 (in testing)
nov. 04 21:10:41 <crud-pol>	itunes
nov. 04 21:10:52 <crud-pol>	well i try to stay away from Apple
nov. 04 21:10:57 <pango>	crud-pol: again, I don't know exactly what kind of interface he's missing from the rippers I know
nov. 04 21:11:09 <crud-pol>	it never works too good on here
nov. 04 21:11:32 <crud-pol>	http://l10n.gnome.org/
nov. 04 21:11:36 <carlosj-pol>	how upgrade my playonlinx
nov. 04 21:11:39 <pango>	!download
nov. 04 21:11:40 <PlayOnLinux>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
nov. 04 21:12:06 <pango>	carlosj-pol: check the section for your distribution in above page
nov. 04 21:13:25 <crud-pol>	http://www.scummvm.org/
nov. 04 21:13:39 <pango>	crud-pol: ?
nov. 04 21:14:01 <pango>	crud-pol: yup POL has DOSBox and ScummVM support too
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nov. 04 21:15:34 <crud-pol>	i have the update its up top date now on my POL
nov. 04 21:15:53 <carlosj-pol>	pango: forgive me if i late replying, im noy very good in english, i speak spanis
nov. 04 21:16:19 <pango>	crud-pol: actually those supports are not in the client, but in "Wine"-like versions
nov. 04 21:16:27 <pango>	carlosj-pol: I'm french ;)
nov. 04 21:16:48 <pango>	carlosj-pol: what's your Linux distribution?
nov. 04 21:17:04 <crud-pol>	wow Im crud
nov. 04 21:17:05 <carlosj-pol>	ubuntu 12.04
nov. 04 21:17:44 <hvad>	bonne nuit
nov. 04 21:17:58 <pango>	carlosj-pol: or so click on "Ubuntu" on web page http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html and follow instructions below "Precise"
nov. 04 21:18:05 jave jinzo Junaos 
nov. 04 21:18:06 <pango>	bonne nuit hvad 
nov. 04 21:18:26 <pango>	carlosj-pol: (in a terminal)
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nov. 04 21:18:56 <giskard>	well, I'm back
nov. 04 21:19:14 <giskard>	6 hours for a 1000 Mo update (league of legend using playonlinux)
nov. 04 21:19:21 <carlosj-pol>	i already did that
nov. 04 21:19:28 <giskard>	on a different network, same computer
nov. 04 21:19:48 <giskard>	there is still a problem with the p2p, but I don't know what
nov. 04 21:20:11 <carlosj-pol>	pango: i have to do it again ???
nov. 04 21:20:51 <pango>	carlosj-pol: don't know what you did so far, just that you're currently running an old version
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nov. 04 21:22:38 <pango>	carlosj-pol: after those instructions PlayOnLinux should be kept up to date automatically
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nov. 04 21:26:01 <tenny-pol>	anyone on with some POL league of legends experience? I have spent all weekend trying to get this running
nov. 04 21:26:26 <pango>	installed it many times for testing
nov. 04 21:26:59 <tenny-pol>	I got it installed, but everytime I run it the client crashes
nov. 04 21:27:10 <giskard>	tenny-pol: oh
nov. 04 21:27:15 <giskard>	I can help you for that
nov. 04 21:27:22 <giskard>	give me the debug output
nov. 04 21:27:26 <giskard>	(what distro, too ?)
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nov. 04 21:28:02 <tenny-pol>	Ubuntu 12.04
nov. 04 21:28:19 <tenny-pol>	debug inc in a sec...
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nov. 04 21:30:06 <tenny-pol>	[11/04/12 15:04:11] - Running wine-1.5.5-LeagueOfLegends rads_user_kernel.exe run lol_launcher 0.0.0.0 LoLLauncher.exe (Working directory : /home/tenny/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/LeagueOfLegends/drive_c/fixme:dwmapi:DwmIsCompositionEnabled 0x6ac8a440fixme:iphlpapi:NotifyAddrChange (Handle 0x100e8ec, overlapped 0x100e8d0): stubwine: configuration in '/home/tenny/.PlayOnLinux//wineprefix/LeagueOfLegends' has been updated.err:winediag:wined3d_dll_init
nov. 04 21:30:36 <giskard>	the whole output :>
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nov. 04 21:31:25 <pango>	pastebin, or you'll get kicked by the bot for flooding :p
nov. 04 21:31:33 <tenny-pol>	opps sorry
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nov. 04 21:35:16 <tenny-pol>	http://pastebin.com/r8T99tsx is the entire log. I have tried many things over the last 24 hrs...some of which shows in the log.
nov. 04 21:36:16 <tenny-pol>	The LoL patcher gives an error that Update Failed
nov. 04 21:36:44 <pango>	tenny-pol: personally I'd scratch everything and start over, it's supposed to work as the script installs it
nov. 04 21:37:55 <giskard>	+1, this is how I managed to get lol working with archlinux
nov. 04 21:38:21 <BlackNoxis>	giskard: archlinux is sad. im doing a great work on www.sabayon.org with playonlinux
nov. 04 21:38:21 <BlackNoxis>	:P
nov. 04 21:39:23 <tenny-pol>	hmmm this is my third time... first time was a POL install, second was a script from WINEHQ, Third was started Friday night in POL again... been a little frustrating...  I'll start over and the minute I hit a bump I'll check in before trying to fix it myself... thanks for the recommendation
nov. 04 21:39:34 <giskard>	BlackNoxis: oh, archlinux is super cool
nov. 04 21:39:37 <giskard>	it works :D
nov. 04 21:39:50 <giskard>	(I played lol for 2 months on archlinux)
nov. 04 21:40:01 <giskard>	but, well, new computer
nov. 04 21:40:03 <giskard>	update
nov. 04 21:40:08 <giskard>	aaaaaannnd it's gone.
nov. 04 21:40:22 <ptinou>	re
nov. 04 21:40:28 <BlackNoxis>	not my tastes, e/e just works anyway. archlinux is too vanilla on configs, too freebsd-like, and a stupid ABS construction system with no real automation in development
nov. 04 21:40:50 <BlackNoxis>	giskard: im into the sources of them all, im into gentoo
nov. 04 21:40:57 <giskard>	hohohohoho, trollface.png
nov. 04 21:41:05 <giskard>	abs > *
nov. 04 21:41:08 <BlackNoxis>	abs just doesn't help me
nov. 04 21:41:13 <BlackNoxis>	it doesn't have use flags
nov. 04 21:41:17 <crud-pol>	try Ultimate Edition
nov. 04 21:41:20 <giskard>	but use system sucks
nov. 04 21:41:25 <BlackNoxis>	it doesn't have any real deps and rdeps handling
nov. 04 21:41:27 <giskard>	(look at the source and cry)
nov. 04 21:41:43 <BlackNoxis>	giskard: dude, it doesn't help me
nov. 04 21:41:45 <BlackNoxis>	simple.
nov. 04 21:41:58 <BlackNoxis>	and im running sabayon and my own fork of sabayon anywayz
nov. 04 21:42:08 <BlackNoxis>	constructing playonlinux on our distro is 150% simple
nov. 04 21:42:17 <BlackNoxis>	and we can make it even much much betteer
nov. 04 21:42:19 <BlackNoxis>	better*
nov. 04 21:42:29 <ptinou>	pango: alors ?
nov. 04 21:42:32 <BlackNoxis>	being source-based, you can handle e/e from within the source
nov. 04 21:42:33 <giskard>	well, archlinux is not something to compile every package
nov. 04 21:42:36 *	pango brings popcorn
nov. 04 21:42:38 <giskard>	BlackNoxis: are you french ?
nov. 04 21:42:39 <giskard>	:D
nov. 04 21:42:44 <BlackNoxis>	niet, im transylvanian
nov. 04 21:42:48 <giskard>	non car bon, on peut parler français sinon.
nov. 04 21:42:51 <pango>	ptinou: what should I test?
nov. 04 21:43:19 <ptinou>	:S
nov. 04 21:43:22 <ptinou>	wine qqchose
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nov. 04 21:45:54 <orl>	BlackNoxis: just for my information, what do you call e/e?
nov. 04 21:46:00 <BlackNoxis>	everything
nov. 04 21:46:11 <orl>	oh, well, thanks
nov. 04 21:46:16 <BlackNoxis>	e{/v}e-{yawn}
nov. 04 21:46:17 <BlackNoxis>	xD
nov. 04 21:46:33 <giskard>	BlackNoxis: yeah, definitly not archlinux
nov. 04 21:46:36 <orl>	hu, I'm not a sed/regexp expert!
nov. 04 21:46:43 <giskard>	archlinux is not something for the sources lovers
nov. 04 21:46:47 <BlackNoxis>	giskard: lol
nov. 04 21:46:52 <BlackNoxis>	sabayon is binary
nov. 04 21:47:03 <giskard>	and ?
nov. 04 21:47:04 <BlackNoxis>	based on a source-based distro
nov. 04 21:47:08 <BlackNoxis>	same as arch, binary
nov. 04 21:47:13 <BlackNoxis>	and you have both support
nov. 04 21:47:38 <pango>	ptinou: installed Notepad++, switched to Wine 1.5.12, seems to work
nov. 04 21:47:43 <pango>	ptinou: is that good enough?
nov. 04 21:47:47 <ptinou>	et merde
nov. 04 21:47:56 <ptinou>	nope
nov. 04 21:47:56 <BlackNoxis>	Portage {Sabayon/Gentoo} = ABS {Arch}, Entropy {Sabayon} = Pacman {Arch}, giskard xD
nov. 04 21:48:03 <ptinou>	we don't know where does the pb come from ...
nov. 04 21:48:13 <BlackNoxis>	giskard: just that portage is waaaaay more complex than simple ABS
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nov. 04 21:49:02 <BlackNoxis>	giskard: when you do PKGBUILDs in abs in arch, you define your own ./configure --features --disable-features. in gentoo there's only USE="feature -feature2" emerge package. or if you want precompiled / binary, you just equo install package
nov. 04 21:49:05 <BlackNoxis>	giskard: dat simple
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nov. 04 21:51:15 <pango>	ptinou: I suspect a dynamic linker issue, what do you think?.
nov. 04 21:51:36 <ptinou>	probably.
nov. 04 21:51:56 <ptinou>	I suspect a conflict with xorg in ced117 distro
nov. 04 21:52:04 <ptinou>	(incompatible version)
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nov. 04 21:52:55 <pango>	possible too, and would suck :p
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nov. 04 21:55:03 <pango>	ptinou: I don't know the details of how libxcb interacts with X server
nov. 04 21:55:22 <ptinou>	neither do i
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nov. 04 22:02:32 <giskard>	BlackNoxis: but the code is ugly
nov. 04 22:02:46 <BlackNoxis>	ugly as in extremely complex ?
nov. 04 22:02:47 <BlackNoxis>	yeah
nov. 04 22:02:56 <giskard>	nope, ugly as in systemd
nov. 04 22:03:04 <BlackNoxis>	oh, we're not using systemd
nov. 04 22:03:04 <giskard>	look at the source code of USE
nov. 04 22:03:14 <giskard>	it's ugly.
nov. 04 22:03:21 <BlackNoxis>	what's "USE" ?
nov. 04 22:03:29 <giskard>	the USE system
nov. 04 22:03:36 <BlackNoxis>	oukey... then why's ugly?
nov. 04 22:03:38 <giskard>	the $USE system, if you prefer
nov. 04 22:03:41 <BlackNoxis>	yeah
nov. 04 22:03:45 <BlackNoxis>	IUSE, USE
nov. 04 22:03:59 <BlackNoxis>	you can name the USEs as you want to, and define w/e you want with them
nov. 04 22:04:01 <BlackNoxis>	le'me show ya
nov. 04 22:04:51 <BlackNoxis>	https://github.com/Rogentos/default-development/blob/master/app-admin/default-app/default-app-1.0.ebuild
nov. 04 22:05:12 <pango>	ptinou: "Since the protocol is standardized, a client using any implementation of XCB may talk with any X server (the same occurs for Xlib, of course)."
nov. 04 22:05:21 <BlackNoxis>	giskard: take a  look at that ^, one of the most simple ebuilds
nov. 04 22:05:21 <ptinou>	?
nov. 04 22:05:29 <pango>	ptinou: http://xcb.freedesktop.org/tutorial/ "Basic XCB notions"
nov. 04 22:06:02 <ptinou>	ok
nov. 04 22:06:13 <crud-pol>	wow
nov. 04 22:07:08 <BlackNoxis>	crud-pol: yeah, played like 1 year, not playing anymore. :))
nov. 04 22:07:19 <ptinou>	pango: so ?
nov. 04 22:07:51 <BlackNoxis>	ptinou pango you guys are wonderful. i deeply respect your work. hope in time, when i'll learn more python, i can help ya out
nov. 04 22:07:52 <pango>	ptinou: so I'd assume it's not a problem of compatibility with the X server at the protocol level
nov. 04 22:08:05 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 04 22:08:11 <ptinou>	that's a good thing
nov. 04 22:08:33 <pango>	ptinou: and I'm more back to dynamic linking issue (fingers crossed :p)
nov. 04 22:08:46 <ptinou>	well, we should reproduce the bug first
nov. 04 22:09:09 <pango>	ptinou: yup, and then maybe set LD_DEBUG to get some insight, if ldd is not sufficient
nov. 04 22:09:29 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 04 22:09:55 <ptinou>	I think it is a dependence problem
nov. 04 22:10:19 <pango>	I have no experience with OpenSuse (also does it matter that a 64bit system is used?)
nov. 04 22:10:34 <ptinou>	no idea :s
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nov. 04 22:14:47 <crud-pol>	http://ultimateedition.info/
nov. 04 22:14:56 <ptinou>	?
nov. 04 22:15:17 <crud-pol>	UE
nov. 04 22:15:54 <crud-pol>	by Thee Mahn
nov. 04 22:16:37 <crud-pol>	one of the best Linux OS around
nov. 04 22:18:00 <BlackNoxis>	crud-pol: well, it isn't a guy's right to dream, isn't it, heheh
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nov. 04 22:25:12 <setann-pol>	Plop
nov. 04 22:25:33 <setann-pol>	Est-ce qu'il y aurait quelqu'un pour m'aider svp ? :x
nov. 04 22:25:34 <ptinou>	plo
nov. 04 22:25:35 <ptinou>	plop *
nov. 04 22:25:46 <setann-pol>	Depuis hier j'essaie de télécharger LoL mais j'y arrive toujours pas T_T
nov. 04 22:26:02 <ptinou>	comment ça ?
nov. 04 22:26:25 <setann-pol>	Je suis sous Linux, j'ai suivi le tuto sur mILLENIUM
nov. 04 22:26:47 <ptinou>	y'a pas de tuto à suivre
nov. 04 22:26:51 <setann-pol>	Millenium mais il demande de déplacer le dossier "RIOT GAMES" sauf que je sais pas d'ou il vient x')
nov. 04 22:26:56 <ptinou>	tu fais installer -> jeux -> league of legends
nov. 04 22:26:57 <ptinou>	c'est tout
nov. 04 22:26:57 <setann-pol>	Ha ? xD
nov. 04 22:27:11 <pango>	avec PlayOnLinux à jour
nov. 04 22:27:14 <ptinou>	mais tu mets à jour playonlinux avant
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nov. 04 22:27:30 <setann-pol>	Comment on fait ? j'ai pas trouvé :x
nov. 04 22:27:33 <Byron-pol>	hola
nov. 04 22:27:33 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel Byron-pol
nov. 04 22:27:34 <ptinou>	!download
nov. 04 22:27:35 <PlayOnLinux>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
nov. 04 22:27:41 <Byron-pol>	hello
nov. 04 22:27:53 BlackNoxis Byron-pol 
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nov. 04 22:27:55 <pango>	hi Byron-pol 
nov. 04 22:28:00 <setann-pol>	Salut ^^
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nov. 04 22:28:22 <crud-pol>	https://www.wepay.com/donations/eye-surgery
nov. 04 22:28:52 <ptinou>	!ban crud-pol
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nov. 04 22:28:57 <ptinou>	!ban crud-pol
nov. 04 22:29:02 <ptinou>	!k crud-pol
nov. 04 22:29:10 <setann-pol>	omg
nov. 04 22:29:17 <setann-pol>	xD
nov. 04 22:29:23 <ptinou>	bon
nov. 04 22:29:25 <ptinou>	!op
nov. 04 22:29:33 <ptinou>	ok ...
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nov. 04 22:29:54 <ptinou>	crud-pol: prepare to be banned ;)
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nov. 04 22:30:04 <ptinou>	!op
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nov. 04 22:30:08 <ptinou>	!deop
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nov. 04 22:30:24 <setann-pol>	erf j'suis une grosse quiche en anglais
nov. 04 22:30:30 <ptinou>	ouai j'ai même pas lu la page
nov. 04 22:30:38 <ptinou>	enfin je viens de la lire
nov. 04 22:30:44 <ptinou>	mais ça change rien
nov. 04 22:30:50 <setann-pol>	xD
nov. 04 22:31:08 <setann-pol>	j'ai téléchargé le truc ou y'a marqué "Deb files :"
nov. 04 22:31:18 <ptinou>	ah tu parle de ça
nov. 04 22:31:37 <ptinou>	clique sur le drapeau français
nov. 04 22:32:02 <setann-pol>	Ouais en fait y'avait plus simple, j'avais juste à aller dans la logithèque et clique sur mise à jour mdr
nov. 04 22:32:23 <ptinou>	si t'as pas fait les manips ça marchera pas
nov. 04 22:33:22 <setann-pol>	Okok
nov. 04 22:33:42 <setann-pol>	Tu joues a LoL toi ?
nov. 04 22:33:46 <ptinou>	non je joue pas
nov. 04 22:33:49 <ptinou>	pas le temps
nov. 04 22:34:02 <setann-pol>	Comment ça se fait ? xD
nov. 04 22:34:06 <ptinou>	études
nov. 04 22:34:17 <setann-pol>	Ha ok x)
nov. 04 22:34:25 <setann-pol>	Mais t'avais aps de vacances cette semaine ?
nov. 04 22:34:29 <ptinou>	non
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nov. 04 22:35:35 <setann-pol>	T'es pas à la fac ?
nov. 04 22:35:39 <ptinou>	non
nov. 04 22:35:46 <setann-pol>	Ha x)
nov. 04 22:35:49 <setann-pol>	t'es en quoi ?
nov. 04 22:35:54 <ptinou>	école d'ingé
nov. 04 22:35:59 <setann-pol>	Ha ok x_x
nov. 04 22:36:42 <setann-pol>	Bon
nov. 04 22:36:45 <d4rkh4nd8>	Hello, i need some help. My Runes of magic launcher crashes when its almost done updating. Never been in game. Ubuntu 12.10
nov. 04 22:36:47 <setann-pol>	il se passe rien xD
nov. 04 22:37:02 <ptinou>	tape les commandes sur la page de téléchargement
nov. 04 22:37:35 <setann-pol>	Ça y est
nov. 04 22:37:40 <setann-pol>	J'ai pris le dépôt Precise
nov. 04 22:37:44 <ptinou>	toutes
nov. 04 22:37:45 <ptinou>	-s
nov. 04 22:37:48 <setann-pol>	Et le pauvre anglais il a pas d'help :'(
nov. 04 22:37:54 <setann-pol>	Ha ok é_è
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nov. 04 22:40:06 <setann-pol>	Je redémarre playonlinux voir
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nov. 04 22:41:28 <setann-pol>	Hmm
nov. 04 22:42:01 <pango>	setann-pol: faut cocher "Testing"
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nov. 04 22:42:10 <pango>	euh "En test"
nov. 04 22:42:21 <Setann>	Ouais je viens de le faire et d'actualiser xD
nov. 04 22:43:11 <Setann>	Le truc des jeux en test est vide é_è
nov. 04 22:44:17 <pango>	tu as cliqué sur Actualiser justement?
nov. 04 22:44:28 <Setann>	ou
nov. 04 22:44:31 <Setann>	+i
nov. 04 22:44:57 <Setann>	J'ai décohé commercial
nov. 04 22:45:06 <pango>	ben voilà
nov. 04 22:45:11 <pango>	tu n'as plus que les logiciels free to play
nov. 04 22:45:18 <Setann>	Mais y'a toujours rien x)
nov. 04 22:45:28 <Setann>	avec commercial de coché
nov. 04 22:45:43 <pango>	j'ai jamais pu reproduire ce cas
nov. 04 22:45:49 <Setann>	Y'a rien non plus et avec No-cdrequis aussi
nov. 04 22:46:07 <ptinou>	reclique sur actualiser
nov. 04 22:46:31 <Setann>	Ha c'ets bon
nov. 04 22:46:36 <pango>	ptinou: il aurait fallu changer le nom des fichiers de liste
nov. 04 22:46:45 <ptinou>	?
nov. 04 22:46:55 <pango>	ptinou: un peu galère avec leurs noms 1, 2, 3, mais la transition aurait pu être assurée en douceur
nov. 04 22:47:03 <ptinou>	?
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nov. 04 22:47:31 <d4rkh4nd8>	Hello, i need some help. My Runes of magic launcher crashes when its almost done updating. Never been in game. Ubuntu 12.10
nov. 04 22:47:33 <pango>	tu changes les noms des listes par 1.v2, 2.v2, etc. et le menu d'install ne peut pas être confus à cause de fichiers au mauvais format
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nov. 04 22:47:37 <Setann>	hola
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nov. 04 22:47:37 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel Setann
nov. 04 22:47:43 <Setann>	hola
nov. 04 22:47:43 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel Setann
nov. 04 22:47:47 <ptinou>	je cromprens pas le truc la
nov. 04 22:48:10 <Setann>	Euh.. une dernière question !
nov. 04 22:48:29 <Setann>	une fois que LoL est téléchargé
nov. 04 22:48:38 <pango>	ptinou: au moment où tu as changé le format des listes, changer de nom de fichier aurait évité la nécessité de forcer une actualisation des listes
nov. 04 22:48:46 <Setann>	je vais faire comment pour le lancer ?
nov. 04 22:48:48 <pango>	ptinou: enfin c'était un moyen comme un autre
nov. 04 22:49:00 <ptinou>	oui
nov. 04 22:49:04 <ptinou>	mais j'y ai pas pensé
nov. 04 22:49:16 <pango>	ptinou: yep, moi non plus ;)
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nov. 04 22:50:02 <pango>	Setann: téléchargé ou installé ?
nov. 04 22:50:23 <Setann>	téléchargé
nov. 04 22:50:39 <pango>	Setann: le tar de 1.7GB?
nov. 04 22:50:53 <Setann>	Nop le truc de 20mo
nov. 04 22:51:00 <Setann>	putain y'a 2gb
nov. 04 22:51:05 <ptinou>	...
nov. 04 22:51:08 <Setann>	Super avec ma co de 80ko mdr
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nov. 04 22:51:22 <ptinou>	en même temps tu télécharge pas tetris hein
nov. 04 22:51:34 <Setann>	Ouais je sais je sais xD
nov. 04 22:51:53 <Setann>	Enfin ça va encore 2go, je pensais qu'il prenait mini 3
nov. 04 22:52:04 <pango>	Setann: c'est parce que ce n'est pas fini
nov. 04 22:52:12 <pango>	Setann: c'est juste l'installation initiale
nov. 04 22:52:21 <pango>	Setann: après il y a les mises à jour
nov. 04 22:52:49 <Setann>	Dur
nov. 04 22:53:24 <Setann>	Vous avez une co de combien de ko/ sec, vous ?
nov. 04 22:53:40 <pango>	1Mo/s environ
nov. 04 22:53:51 <ptinou>	100Mb/s (théorique)
nov. 04 22:54:50 <Setann>	fibre optique ?
nov. 04 22:55:42 <ptinou>	renater
nov. 04 22:55:51 <Setann>	Franchement c'est abused en 10sec t'as un film, pour avoir un film me faut 1h30 - 2h00 xD
nov. 04 22:56:18 <ptinou>	c'est bien
nov. 04 22:56:24 <ptinou>	ça te force à aller acheter ton film au supermarché au moins
nov. 04 22:56:31 <Setann>	rof
nov. 04 22:56:32 <Setann>	l
nov. 04 22:56:58 <pango>	j'irais bien acheter une OpenSuse au supermarché :p
nov. 04 22:57:03 <Setann>	J'suis trop pauvre pour
nov. 04 22:57:05 <pango>	1h53 encore
nov. 04 22:57:25 <giskard>	et puis
nov. 04 22:57:25 <pango>	3Go l'install de base
nov. 04 22:57:33 <giskard>	l'update lol se chie dessus
nov. 04 22:57:45 <pango>	giskard: assez souvent, oui
nov. 04 22:57:49 <giskard>	et tu plafonnes à 90ko/s sur 3 Go à télécharger.
nov. 04 22:57:55 <giskard>	ET ÇA FAIT CHIER
nov. 04 22:57:58 <giskard>	bref.
nov. 04 22:58:07 <ptinou>	on se calme hein
nov. 04 22:58:23 <pango>	giskard: mais des fois il te reste -39 minutes à attendre ;)
nov. 04 22:58:39 <Setann>	Franchement je me vois pas crée une seconde partoche pour un seul jeu
nov. 04 22:59:05 <giskard>	pareil, surtout quand ça tourne tellement mieux sous mon os actuel
nov. 04 22:59:38 <Setann>	Surtout qu'après si j'installe W7, j'aurais pas le choix entre Linux et windows vu qu'il regarde pas si y'a d'autre système d'exploitation, non ?
nov. 04 22:59:48 <Setann>	T'es sous quoi ?
nov. 04 22:59:54 <giskard>	arch
nov. 04 22:59:58 <giskard>	archlinux*
nov. 04 23:00:22 <giskard>	et, hm, avec un i3 je fume un ami avec un i7, un disque 7200 tours/min avec windows 7
nov. 04 23:00:26 <giskard>	c'est marrant, il rage à cause de ça.
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nov. 04 23:00:34 <giskard>	(sur une partie de lol, par exemple)
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nov. 04 23:00:55 <giskard>	juste, là, la maj est vraiment ultra lente, le p2p fonctionne pas.
nov. 04 23:01:00 <JonaD92>	Hello (?)
nov. 04 23:01:04 JonaD92 Junaos 
nov. 04 23:01:06 <pango>	hi JonaD92 
nov. 04 23:01:07 <giskard>	hello
nov. 04 23:01:17 <Setann>	Slaut
nov. 04 23:01:19 <Setann>	Salut *
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nov. 04 23:01:41 <Setann>	Chaud pour lui n'empêche :')
nov. 04 23:01:56 <Setann>	Perso j'ai un i5
nov. 04 23:02:06 <Setann>	Par contre 80ko/s de co ça suffit ?
nov. 04 23:03:11 <giskard>	bah, pour jouer, oui, mais j'ai 2mo/s environ de dispo
nov. 04 23:03:45 <giskard>	juste, là, leur serveur est à 80ko/s, et le p2p semble pas fonctionner dans la mise à jour
nov. 04 23:04:15 <Setann>	ha bah ça va
nov. 04 23:04:33 <Setann>	Pourquoi j'habite en campagne sérieux
nov. 04 23:04:43 <Setann>	En plus de la co pourrie j'ai des pb de ligne
nov. 04 23:05:04 <Setann>	à 5km de chez moi y'a la ville et t'as du 1mo/s, c'est abusé
nov. 04 23:05:18 <giskard>	tu es d'où ?
nov. 04 23:05:25 <Setann>	Bretagne
nov. 04 23:05:29 <Setann>	et toi ?
nov. 04 23:05:37 <ptinou>	rennes Setann :p
nov. 04 23:05:47 <giskard>	ah, Franche-Comté/Alsace
nov. 04 23:05:58 <Setann>	Nop pas Rennes
nov. 04 23:06:01 <giskard>	de l'autre côté
nov. 04 23:06:02 <ptinou>	ah
nov. 04 23:06:03 <Setann>	ha 45min
nov. 04 23:06:09 <Setann>	à*
nov. 04 23:06:18 <Setann>	mais j'y vais souvent
nov. 04 23:06:38 <Setann>	Pourquoi ça Ptinou, t'es de Rennes ? xD
nov. 04 23:06:57 <ptinou>	j'y ai passé 3 ans ouai
nov. 04 23:07:12 <Setann>	T'y as fais quoi ?
nov. 04 23:07:18 <ptinou>	prépa
nov. 04 23:08:26 <forevercoder-pol>	Dilimi bilen birisi var mı ?
nov. 04 23:08:40 <ptinou>	!lng forevercoder-pol
nov. 04 23:08:41 <Setann>	okok
nov. 04 23:08:41 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english forevercoder-pol
nov. 04 23:09:04 <Setann>	Mais t'habites ou ?
nov. 04 23:09:08 <forevercoder-pol>	:) ok
nov. 04 23:09:11 <ptinou>	cette année paris
nov. 04 23:09:24 <Setann>	Et quand t'étais jeuen ? :')
nov. 04 23:09:31 <ptinou>	:p
nov. 04 23:09:32 <ptinou>	ah ah
nov. 04 23:09:57 <Setann>	dis :(
nov. 04 23:10:09 <ptinou>	nope
nov. 04 23:10:16 <Setann>	:-(
nov. 04 23:10:26 <Setann>	POourquoi j'ai une trefle à coté de mon pseudo ?
nov. 04 23:10:44 <ptinou>	parce que t'es connecté depuis playonlinux ...
nov. 04 23:10:50 <Setann>	Ha ok xD
nov. 04 23:11:25 <Setann>	Tout le téléchargement de lol se passe à travers playonlinux ou j'vais avoir une autre interface après ?
nov. 04 23:11:56 <ptinou>	tu verras :p
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nov. 04 23:12:14 <Setann>	é_è
nov. 04 23:12:18 <Setann>	Ça me saoule déjà
nov. 04 23:12:32 <Setann>	Le jeu sans maj fait aux alentours de 1g7 ?
nov. 04 23:12:42 <ptinou>	t'arrête de te plaindre un peu ?
nov. 04 23:13:12 <Setann>	Désolé j'suis franças :p
nov. 04 23:13:16 <Setann>	fraiçais *
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nov. 04 23:13:25 <Setann>	français **
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nov. 04 23:16:06 <giskard>	Setann: hahahahahaha
nov. 04 23:16:10 <giskard>	tu vas douiller
nov. 04 23:16:18 <giskard>	déjà, 1.7 Go via playonlinux
nov. 04 23:16:30 <giskard>	+ environ 3 Go de maj via l'utilitaire league of legend après
nov. 04 23:16:43 <Setann>	T'ES SÉRIEUX LÀ ? O_O
nov. 04 23:17:31 <Setann>	le pc va tourner toute la nuit
nov. 04 23:17:33 <giskard>	ouai, j'ai passé la journée à télécharger.
nov. 04 23:17:41 <Setann>	omg
nov. 04 23:17:56 <giskard>	http://www.kirikoo.net/images/14Anonyme-20121104-232254.png
nov. 04 23:18:02 <Setann>	rien que 1,7go ça va mettre un bon 3h alors là
nov. 04 23:18:38 <giskard>	ah, mais, hm, en plus tu vois, là, le serveur a un débit pourri depuis chez moi
nov. 04 23:18:38 <Setann>	p'tain
nov. 04 23:18:46 <Setann>	ouais 100ko sec
nov. 04 23:20:16 <Setann>	Tu fais 100 ko sec depuis le début du tl&chargement des maj ?
nov. 04 23:20:16 <ptinou>	tu veux bien arrêter de dire putain sans arrêt ?
nov. 04 23:20:16 <Setann>	Okok j'arrête, oui je suis mal élevé, désolé :'(
nov. 04 23:20:16 <giskard>	Setann: non, des fois moins. Par contre, depuis l'interface playonlinux pour le téléchargement du fichier initial, ça allait assez rapidement
nov. 04 23:21:15 <Setann>	Oui normal vu que c'est pas le même serveur
nov. 04 23:21:27 <Setann>	Ce qui est horrible sur pol c'est que tu vois pas la progression, c'est frustrant xD
nov. 04 23:22:13 <ptinou>	ben si tu la vois
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nov. 04 23:23:39 <Setann>	Ou ? o_O
nov. 04 23:28:31 <Setann>	Je vois que ça moi
nov. 04 23:28:31 <Setann>	http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/818/osef.png
nov. 04 23:28:31 <ptinou>	ben tu vois la progression
nov. 04 23:28:31 <Setann>	Oui celle du fichier en téléchargement mais pas celle des 1,7 go, enfin du fichier général
nov. 04 23:28:31 <ptinou>	ben si
nov. 04 23:28:31 <Setann>	Euh par contre, ces fichiers sont dans quel dossier ?
nov. 04 23:28:31 <ptinou>	.playonlinux
nov. 04 23:28:31 <Setann>	okok
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nov. 04 23:34:44 <pango_>	Bon, ça se confirme, quand j'ai VirtualBox qui tourne et que je clique sur un lien ici pour l'ouvrir dans Iceweasel, ça plante ma carte vidéo...
nov. 04 23:34:59 <ptinou>	désactive l'accélération 3D dans firefox
nov. 04 23:35:26 <pango_>	ça crèche où ce paramètre ?
nov. 04 23:35:36 <ptinou>	tu peux pas lancer du tout iceweasel?
nov. 04 23:35:38 <pango_>	je crois que j'ai trouvé
nov. 04 23:36:07 <pango_>	ben mon PC se met à se bloquer 9s sur 10s, corruption vidéo un peu partout...
nov. 04 23:36:27 <pango_>	donc reboot
nov. 04 23:36:32 <ptinou>	le PC entier ?
nov. 04 23:36:36 <pango_>	ben ouais
nov. 04 23:36:39 <ptinou>	:D
nov. 04 23:36:47 <ptinou>	désactive le support opengl dans ta vm?
nov. 04 23:36:55 <pango_>	avec le PC qui répond une fraction de seconde toutes les 5s, tu fais quoi ?
nov. 04 23:36:59 <pango_>	il est pas activé
nov. 04 23:37:07 <ptinou>	bizarre que ça plante
nov. 04 23:37:22 <pango_>	oui et non, quand tu sais les horreurs que fait VirtualBox
nov. 04 23:37:35 <pango_>	surtout sur un PC comme le mien où le proc a pas de support pour la virtualisation
nov. 04 23:37:43 <ptinou>	ah
nov. 04 23:37:45 <ptinou>	ouai enfin bon
nov. 04 23:37:51 <ptinou>	la VM est censée être étanche
nov. 04 23:37:55 <pango_>	lol
nov. 04 23:38:10 <pango_>	un jour penches-toi sur les techniques utilisés par VirtualBox et fais-toi peur
nov. 04 23:39:42 <pango_>	quand il n'a pas de support matériel, il essaye de faire de l'analyse statique sur le contenu de la mémoire avant de l'exécuter, pour deviner où il devrait y avoir besoin de points d'arrêt,...
nov. 04 23:40:00 <ptinou>	euh
nov. 04 23:40:51 <pango_>	en général ça marche et on aperçoit pas la crasse derrière :p
nov. 04 23:43:18 <pango_>	pour pas gérer deux fois les exceptions de page (une fois pour les pages virtuelles de la VM, et une deuxième fois pour les pages de l'OS), les processus dans la VM sont de vrais processus système, et VirtualBox squatte les exceptions de page de l'OS
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nov. 04 23:44:50 <pango>	bon, une OpenSuse à réinstaller
nov. 04 23:45:02 <ptinou>	tu peux l'installer sur eddie si tu préfères
nov. 04 23:46:26 <pango>	j'avais ces plantages avec la version OSE, mais la version Oracle a exactement le même souci
nov. 04 23:46:54 <pango>	on va voir si la désactivation de l'accélération matérielle dans Iceweasel change qq chose
nov. 04 23:47:04 <ptinou>	tu veux utiliser notre serveur ?
nov. 04 23:47:06 <pango>	enfin, si jamais je clique encore sur une URL en pensant à autre chose :D
nov. 04 23:47:11 <pango>	non, ça va aller
nov. 04 23:47:14 <ptinou>	tu as un virtualbox dans ton navigateur internet
nov. 04 23:47:57 <pango>	faudra que je vous envois mes VMs alors :D
nov. 04 23:48:04 <ptinou>	t'es pas obligé
nov. 04 23:48:06 <ptinou>	mais un nouvel OS
nov. 04 23:48:14 <ptinou>	tu peux télécharger un .iso directement sur la machine
nov. 04 23:48:15 <ptinou>	ça va vite
nov. 04 23:48:20 <ptinou>	et l'installer depuis ton browser
nov. 04 23:49:02 <pango>	Pour le moment la VM la plus pénible c'est Quantal... Effets 3D, ça rame à fond en VM
nov. 04 23:49:07 <ptinou>	qparis.fr/vbox.png
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nov. 04 23:50:30 <ptinou>	je trouve ça juste méga pratique
nov. 04 23:50:55 <Setann>	C'est quoi "VM" ? :x
nov. 04 23:51:01 <ptinou>	ou ça "VM" ?
nov. 04 23:51:09 <pango>	Machine Virtuelle
nov. 04 23:52:30 <pango>	ça permet d'émuler un PC complet dans un programme
nov. 04 23:52:38 <Setann>	Oui je sais :B
nov. 04 23:53:00 <Setann>	Non mais pourquoi vous dite VM et Virtualbox alors que ça revient au même ? xD
nov. 04 23:53:09 <ptinou>	non ça revient pas au même
nov. 04 23:53:13 <ptinou>	y'a pas que virtualbox
nov. 04 23:53:41 <pango>	y'a même pas qu'une seule façon de virtualiser
nov. 04 23:54:22 <Setann>	Non mais c'est une machine virtuelle
nov. 04 23:54:38 <pango>	l'inclusion n'implique pas l'égalité
nov. 04 23:54:59 *	giskard rigole
nov. 04 23:56:28 <pango>	dans le contexte de ma phrase j'ai employé VM plutôt que VirtualBox, parce qu'en l'état de l'art de la virtualisation sur PC, je pense que le problème serait le même quel que soit le logiciel employé, VMWare ou autre
nov. 04 23:56:46 <Setann>	okok
nov. 04 23:57:02 <pango>	apparemment ils bossent dessus, mais c'est pas encore réglé cette affaire de 3D virtualisée
nov. 04 23:57:45 <giskard>	de la 3d dans machine virtuelle ?
nov. 04 23:57:51 <pango>	yep
nov. 04 23:57:57 <giskard>	ah, bah, bonne chance :>
nov. 04 23:58:12 <ptinou>	ben pourquoi
nov. 04 23:58:14 <ptinou>	ça marche hein
nov. 04 23:58:35 <giskard>	quelles solutions/quel usage ?
nov. 04 23:58:38 <giskard>	je suis curieux.
nov. 04 23:58:39 <ptinou>	ben jeux vidéo
nov. 04 23:58:44 <pango>	Unity :p
nov. 04 23:59:12 <giskard>	des perfs très basses, non ?
nov. 04 23:59:21 <ptinou>	j'ai déjà réussi à finir un jeu avec ça
nov. 05 00:00:03 <pango>	et ça devait être il y a longtemps, vu qu'il ne joue plus :p
nov. 05 00:00:03 <giskard>	full virt ? genre, même pas du à moitié virtualisé seulement ?
nov. 05 00:00:14 <ptinou>	c'était y'a deux ans
nov. 05 00:00:21 <giskard>	quand je vois ce que ça donne sans virtio, sans kvm, j'imagine même pas
nov. 05 00:00:26 <ptinou>	je vois pas ce que t'entends par du moitié virtualisé
nov. 05 00:00:32 <ptinou>	pango:  c'était l'été
nov. 05 00:00:58 <pango>	ptinou: je te taquine
nov. 05 00:01:06 <ptinou>	:D
nov. 05 00:02:34 <pango>	snifff déjà la fin du weekend
nov. 05 00:04:46 <pango>	après le coup de Trafalgar qu'ils nous ont fait au taf, j'ai trop envie d'aller bosser, ça va être compliqué
nov. 05 00:04:54 <ptinou>	?
nov. 05 00:05:09 <ptinou>	au fait je t'ai dis
nov. 05 00:05:14 <ptinou>	j'ai commandé un raspberry pi :D
nov. 05 00:05:27 <giskard>	ptinou: bah, euh, par exemple, kvm
nov. 05 00:05:33 <pango>	non... qu'est-ce que tu vas bricoler avec encore :p
nov. 05 00:05:44 <giskard>	http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtualisation#Comparaison_de_diff.C3.A9rentes_techniques_de_virtualisation là
nov. 05 00:05:56 <pango>	C'est pour tester la version Raspberry de POL ? :D
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nov. 05 00:06:02 <ptinou>	giskard:  ça reste de la virtualisation
nov. 05 00:06:09 <ptinou>	pango:  POL sur raspberry ça existera … jamais :D
nov. 05 00:06:12 <ptinou>	sauf pour dosbox ptete :D
nov. 05 00:06:15 <giskard>	bah, ça existe déjà
nov. 05 00:06:16 <pango>	lol
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nov. 05 00:06:17 <giskard>	non ?
nov. 05 00:06:22 <ptinou>	giskard: non
nov. 05 00:06:28 <ptinou>	pango:  deux idées
nov. 05 00:06:29 <pango>	c'est pas du x86 je suppose
nov. 05 00:06:32 <ptinou>	non
nov. 05 00:06:34 <ptinou>	arm
nov. 05 00:06:38 <ptinou>	la même chose que dans un iphone
nov. 05 00:06:46 <ptinou>	soit je le met sur mon réseau à supelec
nov. 05 00:06:52 <giskard>	bah, euh
nov. 05 00:06:54 <ptinou>	et ça me fait un deuxième point d'accès qui pointe sur la 3G
nov. 05 00:07:08 <ptinou>	soit je le met dans ma maison qui serait grace a ça connecté au vpn
nov. 05 00:07:19 <ptinou>	et ça me permettrait d'allumer ma tour en Wake On Lan
nov. 05 00:07:25 <ptinou>	je pense que ça va être ça
nov. 05 00:07:36 <pango>	t'es pas la moitié d'un geek
nov. 05 00:07:41 <ptinou>	?
nov. 05 00:07:44 <pango>	:D
nov. 05 00:07:49 <ptinou>	ben :D
nov. 05 00:07:51 <ptinou>	éléctricité, toussa :D
nov. 05 00:07:52 <giskard>	qemu
nov. 05 00:07:53 <ptinou>	nan mais
nov. 05 00:07:54 <giskard>	bref
nov. 05 00:08:01 <ptinou>	giskard:  c'est de la virtu ça reste de la virtu
nov. 05 00:08:04 <ptinou>	y'en a un qui est geré au niveau noyau
nov. 05 00:08:09 <giskard>	ptinou: o rly
nov. 05 00:08:09 <ptinou>	l'autre qui est geré une couche plus bas
nov. 05 00:08:13 <ptinou>	mais le principe est le même
nov. 05 00:08:13 <giskard>	t'as trouvé ça tout seul ou ?
nov. 05 00:08:17 <ptinou>	de ?
nov. 05 00:08:19 <pango>	ptinou: je pense qu'il veut dire virtualisation vs. émulation
nov. 05 00:08:23 <pango>	mais pas sûr
nov. 05 00:08:31 <ptinou>	émulation c'est complètement autre chose
nov. 05 00:08:38 <ptinou>	tu peux avoir émulation avec virtu et émulation sans virtu
nov. 05 00:08:41 <giskard>	non, je veux dire  hyperviseur type 2
nov. 05 00:08:50 <giskard>	type vb et vmware
nov. 05 00:08:51 <ptinou>	pango: mais tu verrais ce qu'on a fait avec aymeric en bidouilles geek ces derniers temps la
nov. 05 00:08:56 <ptinou>	d'ailleurs il m'a fait planté un serveur
nov. 05 00:08:57 <pango>	giskard: ok
nov. 05 00:09:01 <giskard>	vs
nov. 05 00:09:10 <ptinou>	giskard:  j'ai joué à un jeu avec virtualbox et je l'ai fini
nov. 05 00:09:11 <giskard>	isolateur
nov. 05 00:09:11 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel giskard
nov. 05 00:09:13 <ptinou>	si c'est ça que tu veux savoir
nov. 05 00:09:19 <ptinou>	il a craqué la le bot
nov. 05 00:09:24 <pango>	lol
nov. 05 00:09:29 <giskard>	ok, virtualbox
nov. 05 00:09:43 <giskard>	c'est courageux :)
nov. 05 00:09:50 <ptinou>	ça ramait pas du tout
nov. 05 00:10:00 <pango>	je peux faire craquer le bot si tu veux
nov. 05 00:10:01 <pango>	Poland
nov. 05 00:10:02 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel pango
nov. 05 00:10:10 <ptinou>	:D
nov. 05 00:10:25 <pango>	mais isolateur j'apprécie
nov. 05 00:10:25 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel pango
nov. 05 00:10:31 <ptinou>	iso
nov. 05 00:10:32 <pango>	c'est encore meilleur
nov. 05 00:10:34 <ptinou>	olla
nov. 05 00:10:36 <ptinou>	ola
nov. 05 00:10:36 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel ptinou
nov. 05 00:10:37 <ptinou>	:D
nov. 05 00:10:38 <giskard>	plus qu'une heure de téléchargement… soon.
nov. 05 00:12:47 <ptinou>	isolateur
nov. 05 00:13:05 <pango>	 isolateur
nov. 05 00:13:07 <ptinou>	bon
nov. 05 00:13:09 <ptinou>	pol
nov. 05 00:13:10 <ptinou>	pola
nov. 05 00:13:12 <ptinou>	polan
nov. 05 00:13:14 <ptinou>	poland
nov. 05 00:13:21 <ptinou>	ah je suis con
nov. 05 00:13:29 <pango>	nan, ça marche pas :p
nov. 05 00:13:30 <ptinou>	c'était le même pb :D
nov. 05 00:13:34 <ptinou>	le ola
nov. 05 00:13:40 <pango>	aaaaaah ok
nov. 05 00:13:55 <pango>	ah ouais s'il cherchait juste une sous-chapîne
nov. 05 00:13:56 <pango>	-p
nov. 05 00:14:06 <ptinou>	ben oui
nov. 05 00:14:09 <pango>	c'était violent
nov. 05 00:14:09 <ptinou>	comme ça, tu peux pas dire
nov. 05 00:14:14 <ptinou>	un niõ
nov. 05 00:14:16 <ptinou>	merde
nov. 05 00:14:20 <ptinou>	niño
nov. 05 00:14:20 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel ptinou
nov. 05 00:14:51 <giskard>	vs
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nov. 05 00:20:08 <pango>	http://www.osnews.com/story/24264/No_Hardware_Acceleration_Firefox_for_Linux_Due_to_Buggy_X_Drivers
nov. 05 00:20:21 <ptinou>	?
nov. 05 00:20:40 <pango>	bon, ça a bientôt 2 ans, mais je ne suis pas sûr que les pilotes OpenGL soient sortis d'affaire :p
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nov. 05 00:24:06 <ptinou>	aller dodo
nov. 05 00:24:07 <ptinou>	bonne nuit
nov. 05 00:24:22 <pango>	bn Quentin
nov. 05 00:24:32 <pango>	je vais pas tarder :p
nov. 05 00:24:44 <pango>	7h demain matin tsss
nov. 05 00:24:57 <ptinou>	:p
nov. 05 00:25:00 <ptinou>	'nuit
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nov. 05 00:28:04 <Setann>	bye
nov. 05 00:28:12 <pango>	bonne nuit
nov. 05 00:28:19 <luis-pol>	hello
nov. 05 00:28:24 <pango>	hi luis-pol 
nov. 05 00:28:43 <luis-pol>	ablan en español?
nov. 05 00:28:43 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel luis-pol
nov. 05 00:28:57 <luis-pol>	que?
nov. 05 00:29:17 <luis-pol>	alguien abla en español
nov. 05 00:29:17 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel luis-pol
nov. 05 00:29:35 <luis-pol>	open english
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nov. 05 00:38:47 <Setann>	yo
nov. 05 00:38:51 <Setann>	trop tard xD
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nov. 05 00:39:12 <bret-pol>	salut
nov. 05 00:39:17 <Setann>	plop
nov. 05 00:39:29 <bret-pol>	j'ai une question
nov. 05 00:39:48 <bret-pol>	j'install Crysis 2 la
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nov. 05 00:40:11 <bret-pol>	comment savoir si l'install se passe bien ?
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nov. 05 00:41:02 <Setann>	Oupla aucune idée
nov. 05 00:41:06 <bret-pol>	ça doit bien faire plus de 30 minute que ça s'install...
nov. 05 00:41:51 <bret-pol>	le dossier d'install ne bouge pas
nov. 05 00:41:55 <bret-pol>	2 061 éléments, totalisant 8,1 Gio
nov. 05 00:41:57 <bret-pol>	ah ok
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nov. 05 03:01:07 <estudiante-pol>	hola
nov. 05 03:01:07 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel estudiante-pol
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nov. 05 04:50:35 <ismail-pol>	i ask any one help me to use this software in internet cafe ???
nov. 05 04:51:38 <ismail-pol>	any one here ???
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nov. 05 07:17:50 <filipe-pol>	qual jogo multp vcs estao jogando
nov. 05 07:17:52 <filipe-pol>	?
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nov. 05 07:50:57 <nch-pol>	Hey
nov. 05 07:52:21 <nch-pol>	Umm I am trying to run Left 4 Dead 2 (steam) on Wine 1.4.1. I saw a Guy who said that could run it OOTB, but I am struggling without any positive result.
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nov. 05 07:54:14 <nch-pol>	I didn't tried Winetricks, but I used Wine and Playonlinux, and both have the same problem, even disabling GSGL and all that common stuff I saw
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nov. 05 10:14:46 <darkar-linux>	Salut
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nov. 05 14:03:05 <bulsar-pol>	12
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nov. 05 14:14:32 <test-pol>	help
nov. 05 14:16:01 <test-pol>	fuck you i quit
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nov. 05 14:16:42 <test-pol>	f u
nov. 05 14:17:08 <test-pol>	F*U*C*K  you
nov. 05 14:17:20 <BlackNoxis>	test-pol: what's wrong dude ?
nov. 05 14:18:05 <test-pol>	i downloding soething but it says it is not avliable
nov. 05 14:18:52 <test-pol>	hey
nov. 05 14:19:45 <BlackNoxis>	well, depends on which version do you use
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nov. 05 16:15:11 <matt-pol>	anyone know how to get blacklight retribution working in linux?
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nov. 05 17:26:21 <antonio-pol>	hi to everyone
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nov. 05 17:28:21 <antonio-pol>	i got a problem with playonlinux, i'm using it under kubuntu, and i'm trying to install MS office, but when i choose Office 2007 from the list, when i'ts downloading wine 1.2.3 it stops the download at 15mb
nov. 05 17:29:30 <antonio-pol>	if i try to install office from the file .exe it just intall it, but i don't find the office's folders in wine>programs
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nov. 05 17:30:52 <antonio-pol>	nobody in there?
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nov. 05 17:46:58 <robert-pol>	Hello, having a small issue with pol installing office 2007. All thats installed is Word, Powerpoint, and Excel, running the most recent version of pol
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nov. 05 17:56:08 <robert-pol>	i should mention its 2007 office pro plus
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nov. 05 20:58:09 <giskard__>	10/10 league of legend avec archlinux
nov. 05 20:58:12 <giskard__>	c'est parfait
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nov. 05 21:04:14 <marce-pol>	hallo
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nov. 05 21:07:20 <houari-pol>	hi
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nov. 05 21:20:48 <patrick-pol>	hi
nov. 05 21:20:53 <pango>	hi
nov. 05 21:21:27 <patrick-pol>	does anyone here know how to make steam work on pol it seems that it wont respond
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nov. 05 21:22:50 <patrick-pol>	lost connection there]
nov. 05 21:23:06 <patrick-pol>	can anyone help?
nov. 05 21:23:46 <patrick-pol>	i need help making steam work on play on linux?
nov. 05 21:23:54 <pango>	(personally I don't use Steam)
nov. 05 21:24:01 <patrick-pol>	oh
nov. 05 21:24:14 <patrick-pol>	i have 3 games that i have on steam
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nov. 05 21:24:48 <patrick-pol>	m and b +warband+with fire and sword
nov. 05 21:25:02 <patrick-pol>	+napoleonic wars
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nov. 05 23:07:49 <Byron-pol>	hi
nov. 05 23:08:19 <Byron-pol>	hi
nov. 05 23:08:27 <pango>	hi
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nov. 05 23:38:35 <roddy-pol>	Hello)
nov. 05 23:38:44 <pango>	hi
nov. 05 23:38:53 <roddy-pol>	People speak in Russian?
nov. 05 23:39:09 <roddy-pol>	Sorry, my english is very bad =(
nov. 05 23:39:34 <roddy-pol>	Ok. Who help me?)
nov. 05 23:39:46 <roddy-pol>	Please.
nov. 05 23:40:33 <pango>	I don't speak russian at all, so we'll have to do with english
nov. 05 23:42:50 <roddy-pol>	Ok.
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nov. 05 23:44:28 <roddy-pol>	I need to play WorldOfWarcraft in linux. In my computer 3 HDD. 1 Hdd - Windows. (ntfs) 2 HDD - All files (ntfs) 3 - linux (ext4)
nov. 05 23:46:08 <pango>	I'm not sure what's the best way to install WoW, not playing it myself
nov. 05 23:46:10 <roddy-pol>	I can play in WoW without instakkation in 3 HDD
nov. 05 23:46:20 <roddy-pol>	???
nov. 05 23:46:52 <pango>	well, if you don't want to install it several times, install it in the environment you'll play it
nov. 05 23:47:54 <pango>	what I meant is, the install script is a bit old, what I've seen some people do is just install it using a recent version of Wine, and just pick a few things from the install script (like the changes to the game configuration, Config.wtf)
nov. 05 23:50:08 <pango>	the script can be seen from there: http://www.playonlinux.com/en/source-14-World_Of_Warcraft.html
nov. 05 23:52:29 <roddy-pol>	Thank you!!!!!!
nov. 05 23:52:55 <pango>	np
nov. 05 23:52:57 <pango>	:)
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nov. 05 23:58:46 <lucas-pol>	hola: como les va.... queria saber si alguien sabe como instalar un patch para el toca race driver 2
nov. 05 23:58:46 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel lucas-pol
nov. 05 23:58:55 <lucas-pol>	ok
nov. 05 23:59:26 <lucas-pol>	i want to know how install a patch for toca race driver 2
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nov. 05 23:59:48 <lucas-pol>	im a rooky
nov. 05 23:59:51 <lucas-pol>	jajajaja
nov. 05 23:59:53 <pango>	if it comes as some executable, you can try Configure button > (select the virtual drive of the game) > Miscellaneous tab > Run an "exe" into this virtual drive
nov. 06 00:00:12 <lucas-pol>	thanks
nov. 06 00:00:19 <lucas-pol>	ill try it
nov. 06 00:01:14 <pango>	Another way is Install button > Install a non-listed program (bottom left of the window) > Modify or update an existing program
nov. 06 00:01:19 <lucas-pol>	thanks its working
nov. 06 00:01:24 <pango>	cool
nov. 06 00:01:44 <lucas-pol>	you are a genious
nov. 06 00:01:46 <lucas-pol>	jajajaja
nov. 06 00:01:52 <lucas-pol>	im super happy
nov. 06 00:02:00 <pango>	glad to help
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nov. 06 00:06:16 <kyledavid-pol>	df
nov. 06 00:06:28 <pango>	hi
nov. 06 00:06:30 <kyledavid-pol>	Hey how to get tf2 working
nov. 06 00:06:37 <kyledavid-pol>	-___-
nov. 06 00:07:06 <pango>	there's an install script for it, not sure how good it is
nov. 06 00:07:12 <kyledavid-pol>	I installed steam fine (or so it seems) but when I launch tf2 it sits at the start window and eventually just closes
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nov. 06 00:07:23 <kyledavid-pol>	Oh ok I'll check out the script
nov. 06 00:07:45 <kyledavid-pol>	Thaks
nov. 06 00:07:46 <kyledavid-pol>	thanks
nov. 06 00:07:51 <pango>	np
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nov. 06 05:08:38 <Wazoo>	Argh!!!! I need help!!
nov. 06 05:08:50 <Wazoo>	I installed counter Strike Source but it keeps crashing.
nov. 06 05:09:05 <Wazoo>	What version of wine do I need?
nov. 06 05:11:25 <Wazoo>	CSS opens but crashes after the boot screen.  :(
nov. 06 05:19:50 <Wazoo>	Where is everyone?
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nov. 06 05:35:14 <ernest-pol>	we shall support piracy
nov. 06 05:35:18 <ernest-pol>	:)
nov. 06 05:35:27 <Wazoo>	Can I have help?
nov. 06 05:35:55 <ernest-pol>	i was kidding :)
nov. 06 05:36:02 <Wazoo>	About what?
nov. 06 05:36:12 <Wazoo>	I need help with Counter Strike Source crashing
nov. 06 05:36:16 <Wazoo>	And black screens
nov. 06 05:36:28 <Wazoo>	I've been waiting
nov. 06 05:37:01 <ernest-pol>	google's your friend bud, sorry i cant help. wine sucks. can't wait until they port steam to linux
nov. 06 05:37:14 <Wazoo>	*head bangs*
nov. 06 05:37:16 <Wazoo>	Duhhhhhh
nov. 06 05:37:22 <ernest-pol>	lol
nov. 06 05:37:31 <Wazoo>	Ok...I can't wait for Linux Team Fortress 2
nov. 06 05:38:33 <ernest-pol>	yeah, i just upgraded to 8gb ram, and waiting for my new graphics card. unefortunately I will only run linux. so gaming is tough atm :(
nov. 06 05:39:44 <ernest-pol>	rockstars grand theft auto :) and modding of course
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nov. 06 05:51:32 <Wazoo>	I see
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nov. 06 06:28:58 <axgs-arch_linux->	hi guys
nov. 06 06:29:22 <axgs-arch_linux->	...
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nov. 06 07:57:52 <ane4ka-pol>	привет народ)
nov. 06 07:57:52 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel ane4ka-pol
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nov. 06 09:19:05 <kev-pol>	asd
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nov. 06 10:14:18 <albhery>	Que onda
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nov. 06 13:05:32 <seanyandkate-pol>	how do i play football manager on here
nov. 06 13:06:39 <seanyandkate-pol>	i have the cd but cant install it its doing my head in been trying all day
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nov. 06 15:10:09 <zizaco-pol>	where is the Adobe Photoshop CS4 in the list? is it availible?
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nov. 06 16:00:35 <usuario-pol>	ola
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nov. 06 16:01:21 <Willyrex>	hay alguien de españa aqui?
nov. 06 16:01:21 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel Willyrex
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nov. 06 17:01:52 <toto-pol>	Bonjour, que pensez vous de PlayOnLinux ?
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nov. 06 17:47:36 <usuario-pol>	usuario pol
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nov. 06 18:17:32 <gary-pol>	I cannot figure out all the wine stuff, where can I get help.... I trying to download some mandolin tablature, but no success so far
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nov. 06 18:53:16 <Dougie187>	Anyone in get banned from Diablo 3 for using playonlinux/wine/linux?
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nov. 06 18:54:58 <jordan-pol>	anyone else having issues with League of Legends, giving a  "incorrect username or password" error?
nov. 06 18:55:26 <pango>	jordan-pol: works for me
nov. 06 18:55:37 <pango>	jordan-pol: is the region set correctly?
nov. 06 18:56:26 <jordan-pol>	how do you check from the login screen?
nov. 06 18:57:10 <pango>	it's displayed to the right during the update, and before you click on "Play" button... Not sure it can be checked afterward
nov. 06 18:57:44 <jordan-pol>	reloading it. lets see.
nov. 06 18:57:59 <pango>	(sorry, to the _left_ during update)
nov. 06 18:58:41 <jordan-pol>	<3 genius thank you
nov. 06 18:58:47 <pango>	did it work?
nov. 06 18:59:10 <jordan-pol>	its updating now
nov. 06 18:59:16 <pango>	ok
nov. 06 18:59:18 <jordan-pol>	must be a server specific udpate
nov. 06 18:59:22 <jordan-pol>	after ill try
nov. 06 19:00:34 <jordan-pol>	im in :)
nov. 06 19:00:43 <pango>	cool :)
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nov. 06 19:05:52 <jordan-pol>	O.o so... join a game, its in the loadscreen but im not in the screen, is this normal?
nov. 06 19:06:29 <pango>	I don't understand
nov. 06 19:06:55 <jordan-pol>	like... i should be in the screen with all the portraits... but im not.
nov. 06 19:07:34 <pango>	I'm not a LoL player, I just test that it installs correctly, from time to time
nov. 06 19:07:40 <pango>	so I don't really know
nov. 06 19:07:44 <jordan-pol>	hm
nov. 06 19:07:46 <jordan-pol>	ok. :)
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nov. 06 19:19:06 <krofna>	I just installed playonlinux and I got problem with installing apps. When I open playonlinux://www.playonlinux.com/repository/download.php?id=1135 in firefox, it says: The address wasn't understood
nov. 06 19:19:07 <krofna>	Help?
nov. 06 19:20:38 <krofna>	ah nvm found workaround
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nov. 06 20:23:30 <mick-pol>	i get this error when launching leageu of legends: internal errors | invalid parameters
nov. 06 20:23:42 <mick-pol>	somebody knows what to do? :(
nov. 06 20:23:43 <pango>	it says nothing interesting
nov. 06 20:23:56 <pango>	like "smoke is going out of my car, what broke?"
nov. 06 20:24:16 <pango>	invalid parameters in this case just means Wine crashed hard
nov. 06 20:24:31 <mick-pol>	but how to fix it?
nov. 06 20:24:44 <pango>	by pouring water onto the car
nov. 06 20:24:53 <pango>	really, it bring no useful information
nov. 06 20:25:10 <pango>	try running the program with the debugger, maybe
nov. 06 20:25:25 <pango>	select the shortcut and click on "Debugger" in the side panel
nov. 06 20:26:31 <pango>	by the way there's something like 15 open bug reports on LoL, so...
nov. 06 20:26:52 <pango>	at least it means it's not extremely reliable
nov. 06 20:27:39 <mick-pol>	i know its testing. it worked on ubuntu. but im now using xubuntu
nov. 06 20:27:53 <mick-pol>	bad luck i guess
nov. 06 20:27:58 <pango>	yup, exactly
nov. 06 20:28:09 <pango>	lots of not well understood failure modes
nov. 06 20:28:21 <mick-pol>	well. thanks anyway
nov. 06 20:28:36 <pango>	but most of the time it works for me
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nov. 06 21:23:43 <jdusso-pol>	buenas?
nov. 06 21:24:08 <jdusso-pol>	alguien que me de una mano con una instalación?
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nov. 06 21:29:11 <george2002-pol>	hi playonlinux ------>es
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nov. 06 21:41:43 <jdusso-pol>	hi
nov. 06 21:41:50 <jdusso-pol>	someone can help me installing a program?
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nov. 06 21:52:02 <alexis-pol>	hello
nov. 06 21:53:36 <ptinou>	hello
nov. 06 21:53:53 <alexis-pol>	ey
nov. 06 21:54:07 <alexis-pol>	wat's happened?
nov. 06 21:54:21 <ptinou>	?
nov. 06 21:54:31 <alexis-pol>	wats up
nov. 06 21:54:32 <alexis-pol>	?
nov. 06 21:54:40 <ptinou>	?
nov. 06 21:54:55 <alexis-pol>	dou you meet the pc game league of legends
nov. 06 21:54:56 <alexis-pol>	?
nov. 06 21:56:00 <Gentle>	we sometimes see each other from across the road, but we haven't met in a while
nov. 06 21:56:57 <alexis-pol>	ist only for windows but i want play on gnu/linux
nov. 06 21:57:43 <alexis-pol>	and clue a tutorial for are this but i dont complet
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nov. 06 21:58:04 <alexis-pol>	i dont play !!
nov. 06 21:58:08 <alexis-pol>	=(
nov. 06 21:58:54 <alexis-pol>	somebodye can helpme with this problem
nov. 06 21:58:55 <alexis-pol>	?
nov. 06 21:59:45 <ptinou>	what is the problem ?
nov. 06 22:00:09 <alexis-pol>	i cant play league of legends on ubuntu
nov. 06 22:00:23 <ptinou>	can you be more precise ...
nov. 06 22:00:30 <alexis-pol>	ok
nov. 06 22:01:03 <alexis-pol>	mmmm... i can install it but dont run in the wine
nov. 06 22:01:14 <alexis-pol>	allone exit a logo
nov. 06 22:01:19 <alexis-pol>	but dont run
nov. 06 22:01:20 <ptinou>	sorry you are not understandable
nov. 06 22:01:29 <alexis-pol>	ok
nov. 06 22:01:31 <alexis-pol>	thanks
nov. 06 22:03:31 <alexis-pol>	i dont speak much english
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nov. 06 23:13:26 <Nek>	Hello
nov. 06 23:13:28 <Nek>	ptinou, dit moi
nov. 06 23:13:39 <Nek>	le script NSFU2 ne serait pas genre.. un peu bugué ?
nov. 06 23:13:53 <ptinou>	NFSU 2 ?
nov. 06 23:13:54 <ptinou>	aucune idée
nov. 06 23:13:58 <Nek>	wine "d:\\AutoRun.exe"
nov. 06 23:14:11 <Nek>	C'est légal ça comme code POL pour lancer l'exe du jeu ?
nov. 06 23:14:21 <Nek>	Need For Speed Underground 2
nov. 06 23:14:23 <Nek>	sorry
nov. 06 23:15:21 <Nek>	(En fait le problème c'est que l'installateur ne se lance jamais, et pourtant, le nom AutoRun.exe est bon)
nov. 06 23:16:24 <ptinou>	non c'est pas bien
nov. 06 23:17:17 <Nek>	c'est probablement ça qui déconne alors
nov. 06 23:17:34 <Nek>	Par contre moi je ne suis pas scripteur POL, du coup je peux pas trop corriger désolé :/
nov. 06 23:17:37 <ptinou>	il a été écrit quand le script ?
nov. 06 23:18:01 <Nek>	27 November 2010 15:59:51
nov. 06 23:18:28 <ptinou>	oui donc normal
nov. 06 23:19:40 <Nek>	J'ai l'impression que le script est un peu trop compliqué
nov. 06 23:19:49 <Nek>	tu veux que j'essaie de le modifier avant de te faire une PR ?
nov. 06 23:20:09 <ptinou>	ouai si tu veux
nov. 06 23:20:12 <ptinou>	mais lis bien la doc
nov. 06 23:20:15 <ptinou>	y'a plein de trucs qui ont changé
nov. 06 23:20:15 <Nek>	(la question suivante étant "où est enregistré le script original ?")
nov. 06 23:20:22 <ptinou>	nul part :p
nov. 06 23:20:48 <Nek>	fort dommage
nov. 06 23:21:22 <ptinou>	ouai je sais
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nov. 06 23:30:39 <Nek>	C'est un peu compliqué en fait
nov. 06 23:30:42 <Nek>	:')
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nov. 06 23:33:44 <Zorel>	hi
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nov. 06 23:34:43 <LordZorel>	somebody?
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nov. 06 23:38:37 <LordZorel>	Hi!
nov. 06 23:38:44 <Asaahe>	Hi
nov. 06 23:39:03 <Nek>	ptinou, je fais n'imp
nov. 06 23:39:04 <LordZorel>	new in IRC?
nov. 06 23:39:08 <Nek>	ça ne fonctionne pas du totu
nov. 06 23:39:18 <Nek>	Faudra que quelqu'un d'autre s'en charge
nov. 06 23:39:24 <ptinou>	?
nov. 06 23:39:36 <Asaahe>	yes, but i'm french and i understand just a little english ^^
nov. 06 23:39:53 <Nek>	ptinou, sur le script de nsfu2
nov. 06 23:40:10 <Nek>	LordZorel, others understand english
nov. 06 23:40:13 <Nek>	go on ^^
nov. 06 23:40:54 <LordZorel>	i'am spanish i don't undestand nothing to french
nov. 06 23:40:58 <LordZorel>	lol
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nov. 06 23:41:03 <Nek>	that's bad
nov. 06 23:41:13 <Nek>	french > all
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nov. 06 23:41:27 <Nek>	(just kidding, english is a pretty cool language)
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nov. 07 00:34:12 <wantosuse-pol>	hi
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nov. 07 00:48:24 <manelit>	do you guys have games that work good with wine?
nov. 07 00:48:48 <manelit>	stupid games that doesn't cost to much to the hardware?
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nov. 07 01:33:19 <robin-pol>	if you can't remember your super admin password is there away around this for a manual install
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nov. 07 02:29:01 <nick-pol>	hey
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nov. 07 03:08:22 <logan-pol>	hello...
nov. 07 03:09:06 <logan-pol>	anyone know how to install a program from a cd? first time user of playonlinux
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nov. 07 05:50:08 <leonardo-pom>	hola
nov. 07 05:50:08 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel leonardo-pom
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nov. 07 06:52:05 <jordan-pol>	anyone here know much about getting League of legends to work?
nov. 07 06:52:24 <jordan-pol>	having an issue with the post selection screen
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nov. 07 08:12:56 ---	You are now known as pangoafk
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nov. 07 08:17:06 <karboran-pol>	hi
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nov. 07 08:52:38 <rudeboy-pol>	I'm trying to run Agricultural Simulator, but it just crashes. No errors or anything?
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nov. 07 09:17:23 <acer-azri-pol>	I using IE8 browser in Ubuntu 12.04 version. when i open Two Tabs, Browser is hanged and not working.
nov. 07 09:18:58 <acer-azri-pol>	please help me.. I am Unable to open two tabs in IE8
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nov. 07 10:33:05 <milyen-pol>	Hi How do I configure Internet access
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nov. 07 15:53:31 <emilio-pol>	good afternoon to everyone
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nov. 07 16:16:06 <robson-pol>	alguem pode me dizer como instalo live messenger se nao aparece a opção na listagem de programas-internet
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nov. 07 16:39:15 -->	Bane_ (a3056534@gateway/web/freenode/ip.163.5.101.52) has joined #playonlinux
nov. 07 16:39:40 <Bane_>	Bonour
nov. 07 16:40:03 <Bane_>	Bonjour* pardon
nov. 07 16:40:15 <Bane_>	Je cherche des infos sur playonlinux
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nov. 07 16:46:17 <robson-pol>	somebody here?
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nov. 07 16:57:14 <Bane_>	Toujours personne?
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nov. 07 17:25:48 <Bane_>	Pas bien vivant comme chan :-/
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nov. 07 19:14:16 <roberto-pol>	why cant i install WININET in winetricks?
nov. 07 19:14:36 <roberto-pol>	pls help
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nov. 07 20:39:54 <krzysiek-pol>	its quakenet?
nov. 07 20:40:25 <ptinou>	nope
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nov. 07 20:41:59 <krzysiek-pol>	can i join there using x-chat?
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nov. 07 20:48:10 <cesarz>	ok working with x-chat :)
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nov. 07 20:56:04 <cesarz>	everyone who got ban use ubuntu?
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nov. 07 21:02:00 <ptinou>	hi cesarz
nov. 07 21:02:12 <cesarz>	hi
nov. 07 21:02:14 <ptinou>	I'm coming back quickly
nov. 07 21:02:50 <ptinou>	to talk about that
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nov. 07 21:03:57 <ptinou>	see you
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nov. 07 21:07:45 <sonori>	here cesarz - I'm one of "lucky winners"
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nov. 07 21:22:57 <sergi>	illoooo
nov. 07 21:23:05 <pango>	hi
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nov. 07 22:04:33 <ptinou1>	!ping
nov. 07 22:04:34 <PlayOnLinux>	pong
nov. 07 22:04:54 <cesarz>	!ping
nov. 07 22:04:55 <PlayOnLinux>	pong
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nov. 07 22:12:21 <sonori>	so what info do you need about the ban, Tinou?
nov. 07 22:12:32 <ptinou1>	I want to write a big news
nov. 07 22:12:35 <ptinou1>	explaining everything
nov. 07 22:13:00 <ptinou1>	I want many people to read it
nov. 07 22:13:04 <ptinou1>	to try to convince  Blizzard
nov. 07 22:13:44 <sonori>	there are guys who try to do this since May or June, I do believe
nov. 07 22:14:06 <ptinou1>	Yep, but they are not PlayOnLinux :p
nov. 07 22:14:39 <Dougie187>	I'm here too :D
nov. 07 22:14:43 <Dougie187>	I'm BrownTsunami
nov. 07 22:15:11 <Dougie187>	What would you like in terms of information?
nov. 07 22:15:26 <ptinou1>	I want help to redact the news
nov. 07 22:16:20 <Dougie187>	ok
nov. 07 22:16:24 <sonori>	William Usher on cinemablend.com does that since May, and nothing ever came out of it
nov. 07 22:17:19 <ptinou1>	I don't know it
nov. 07 22:17:34 <sonori>	http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Banned-Diablo-3-Linux-Users-Speak-Out-We-Cheaters-44240.html
nov. 07 22:17:45 <sonori>	just one of his articles
nov. 07 22:19:13 <Dougie187>	I would love to help in any way I can. Especially since the ban is completely ridiculous.
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nov. 07 22:19:18 <ptinou1>	Only 345 comments
nov. 07 22:19:22 <ptinou1>	45 *
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nov. 07 22:20:16 <sonori>	Of course, I approve of what you want to do, but I don't know how to get loud enough, to be actually heard
nov. 07 22:20:35 <ptinou1>	first, we need to write the news
nov. 07 22:20:39 <Dougie187>	I've been trying to get it up on reddit too.
nov. 07 22:20:52 <Dougie187>	and I have a thread on blizzard's forums too
nov. 07 22:21:01 <ptinou1>	also, we need a real prof
nov. 07 22:21:11 <Dougie187>	that's the hard part. :P
nov. 07 22:21:20 <Dougie187>	how do we get that?
nov. 07 22:22:33 <ptinou1>	I need to be baned
nov. 07 22:22:45 <Dougie187>	You have a D3 account?
nov. 07 22:22:49 <ptinou1>	yep
nov. 07 22:23:08 <Dougie187>	are you going to video all of it?
nov. 07 22:24:11 <sonori>	Will this help? On one of the topics someone said, that Warden  survey lasted for 2 weeks
nov. 07 22:24:40 <ptinou1>	It will help
nov. 07 22:25:29 <sonori>	But since vast majority of bans seem to happen to Ubuntu users, perhaps we should turn to Canonical for aid?
nov. 07 22:25:47 <sonori>	and WineHQ of course
nov. 07 22:25:52 <ptinou1>	maybe something like GateKeeper
nov. 07 22:25:56 <Dougie187>	I've tried WineHQ, but noone is on there yet
nov. 07 22:26:17 <Dougie187>	er, noone in there seems to have been banned
nov. 07 22:26:48 <Dougie187>	I have several links, would you prefer them in a PM or in here?
nov. 07 22:27:01 <ptinou1>	?
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nov. 07 22:27:36 <Dougie187>	Do you want me to PM you links for more info?
nov. 07 22:27:47 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 07 22:28:05 <Dougie187>	ok
nov. 07 22:28:32 <ptinou>	on est toujours à 8 ?
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nov. 07 22:32:47 <Dougie187>	I sent them to you on PoL PM
nov. 07 22:33:07 <Dougie187>	If I find anymore info, I'll send it to you on there too
nov. 07 22:33:16 <ptinou>	thank
nov. 07 22:36:28 <Dougie187>	Also, I've submitted ~6 tickets through their online system and they stopped responding to them. But their phone support told me that emails to hacks@blizzard.com would be the most helpful
nov. 07 22:36:39 <sonori>	did the same as Dougie
nov. 07 22:36:53 <ptinou>	did you get any anwer ?
nov. 07 22:37:09 <ptinou>	how can you proove that you have not cheated also
nov. 07 22:37:58 <sonori>	i've sent an email to info-eu@blizzard.com - four days and no answer
nov. 07 22:40:08 <cesarz>	ptinou, there is no way for it if you don't know what you do wrong :)
nov. 07 22:40:19 <ptinou>	?
nov. 07 22:40:23 <sonori>	the only kind of proof we could provide would be fully controlled game - and I did call for it in my mail and second ticket - closed PTR-like server for in-the-wild tests
nov. 07 22:40:38 <cesarz>	they don't send any details
nov. 07 22:41:29 <sonori>	because "privacy and security"
nov. 07 22:43:30 <ptinou>	I also want to announce that PlayOnLinux will no longer support any Blizzard game
nov. 07 22:43:50 <ptinou>	(if it is true)
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nov. 07 22:45:23 <Dougie187>	There's not really a way for me to prove I didn't cheat.
nov. 07 22:45:33 <Dougie187>	I'm just trying to get them to work with me and reproduce the issue
nov. 07 22:45:44 <Dougie187>	they really do give almost no information
nov. 07 22:45:45 <ptinou>	I understand that
nov. 07 22:45:51 <Dougie187>	If you want I can send you the notice and my tickets as well
nov. 07 22:45:56 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 07 22:47:28 <Dougie187>	I sent you the ban notice. I'll have to wait until I get home to send you all the ticket content.
nov. 07 22:48:19 <ptinou>	thank you
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nov. 07 22:52:52 <cesarz>	its must be something wrong with ubuntu
nov. 07 22:52:59 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 07 22:53:01 <ptinou>	but what
nov. 07 22:53:01 <Dougie187>	It's super annoying whatever it is.
nov. 07 22:53:17 <Dougie187>	Some people (on the winehq thread) think it's related to a memory bug.
nov. 07 22:53:38 <Dougie187>	Some people think either setarch or the pthreads fix fixes it. but I haven't tested either of those (since I'm banned)
nov. 07 22:53:59 <ptinou>	playonlinux uses pthreads by default
nov. 07 22:54:31 <Dougie187>	So, when I play SC2 I have to issue this echo 0|sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope
nov. 07 22:54:51 <Dougie187>	if I don't, I get some weird error before I get to the login screen and then I have to kill -9 it
nov. 07 22:55:54 <ptinou>	We know that
nov. 07 22:56:32 <Dougie187>	I never had to do that with D3
nov. 07 22:56:35 <Dougie187>	(or did it)
nov. 07 22:56:41 <Dougie187>	I think I did when I was using 12.04
nov. 07 22:58:16 <Dougie187>	From my perspective, the only thing I changed recently was going from 12.04 -> 12.10 (both x86_64). So, it's either that, or it's something with warden changing
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nov. 07 23:04:57 <cesarz>	someone play path of exile working good on pol?
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nov. 07 23:05:17 <Dougie187>	I haven't tried it yet, but I saw it on one of the reddit posts about getting banned in D3. :P
nov. 07 23:05:38 <cesarz>	open beta soon
nov. 07 23:05:42 <Dougie187>	The skill tree looks pretty neat
nov. 07 23:06:53 <ptinou>	the only way
nov. 07 23:07:01 <ptinou>	is to find a way that will ban you at 100%
nov. 07 23:07:07 <ptinou>	and then, explain it on a news
nov. 07 23:07:29 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 07 23:07:36 <Dougie187>	So, how do we find a way that will ban us 100%?
nov. 07 23:07:49 <Dougie187>	Especially since warden is out of our control?
nov. 07 23:07:58 <ptinou>	we need to try to find every common point between banned users
nov. 07 23:08:14 <ptinou>	I need you to start a new topic  (I will close the old one)
nov. 07 23:08:17 <ptinou>	but with a real structure
nov. 07 23:08:20 <Dougie187>	Ok
nov. 07 23:08:26 <ptinou>	We need every piece of information
nov. 07 23:08:33 <ptinou>	give me the template before posting
nov. 07 23:08:35 <Dougie187>	Ok
nov. 07 23:09:03 <cesarz>	how can i cheak it?
nov. 07 23:09:37 <ptinou>	?
nov. 07 23:10:27 <cesarz>	well i don't know too much about linux :)
nov. 07 23:10:46 <Dougie187>	Ok, so you want uname -a, distribution, PoL version, Wine version, and what else?
nov. 07 23:11:07 <ptinou>	wine version, precise wine used by POL
nov. 07 23:11:12 <ptinou>	POL / or not
nov. 07 23:11:17 <ptinou>	graphic card
nov. 07 23:12:08 <Dougie187>	http://pastebin.com/aHYKtekK
nov. 07 23:12:10 <Dougie187>	How bout that?
nov. 07 23:12:20 <Dougie187>	Probably ram too
nov. 07 23:12:28 <ptinou>	Not sufficent
nov. 07 23:12:57 <ptinou>	[title2]System information[/title2]
nov. 07 23:12:57 <ptinou>	[title2]Blizzard Information[/title2]
nov. 07 23:13:09 <ptinou>	in Blizzard Info, you can add date of ban ?
nov. 07 23:13:14 <ptinou>	Support contacted ?
nov. 07 23:13:15 <ptinou>	Answer ?
nov. 07 23:13:44 <Dougie187>	ok
nov. 07 23:14:12 <ptinou>	we need other things
nov. 07 23:14:45 <Dougie187>	http://pastebin.com/5HUGFvJk
nov. 07 23:15:45 <ptinou>	hum
nov. 07 23:16:06 <ptinou>	let me think about it
nov. 07 23:16:13 <Dougie187>	ok
nov. 07 23:16:34 <ptinou>	Other system played
nov. 07 23:16:46 <ptinou>	ajnother section: internet
nov. 07 23:17:06 <ptinou>	Speed, static/dynamic ip
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nov. 07 23:17:12 <ptinou>	Provider
nov. 07 23:17:28 <gromy-pol>	hi all
nov. 07 23:17:40 <ptinou>	salut gromy-pol
nov. 07 23:17:52 <Dougie187>	For the IP's you really just want to know if they had a static or dynamic right? not what the actual ip is?
nov. 07 23:18:00 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 07 23:18:09 <gromy-pol>	des français ici  ?
nov. 07 23:18:16 <gromy-pol>	or only english ?
nov. 07 23:18:16 <ptinou>	also if they have used only one, or several internet connexion
nov. 07 23:18:17 <ptinou>	grooui
nov. 07 23:18:22 <ptinou>	gromy-pol: oui
nov. 07 23:18:25 <gromy-pol>	^
nov. 07 23:18:27 <gromy-pol>	^^
nov. 07 23:18:38 <ptinou>	Dougie187: Proxy used for D3
nov. 07 23:19:34 <gromy-pol>	On a eu une belle journée, avec la sortie du client steam natif pour linux. Il ne manque plus que la bétâ soit ouverte à tous.
nov. 07 23:19:42 <Dougie187>	http://pastebin.com/fnh12D1J
nov. 07 23:20:11 <ptinou>	Firewall ?
nov. 07 23:22:41 <Dougie187>	http://pastebin.com/2jNcZy51
nov. 07 23:22:56 <Dougie187>	I added more about graphics card, like driver
nov. 07 23:23:18 <ptinou>	perfect
nov. 07 23:23:21 <ptinou>	you can post it
nov. 07 23:23:26 <Dougie187>	ok
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nov. 07 23:23:58 <Dougie187>	Any preferred section?
nov. 07 23:24:14 <Dougie187>	same one I assume.
nov. 07 23:25:05 <Dougie187>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/topic-9679.html
nov. 07 23:32:26 <Dougie187>	ptinou: btw, thanks for trying to help us with this. :D
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nov. 07 23:40:43 <Dougie187>	ok, I'll try to compile a ticket list tonight when I get home. Thanks again!
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nov. 08 01:36:25 <manjaro-pol>	buenas
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nov. 08 03:42:28 <carlos-pol>	hi
nov. 08 03:42:39 <pango>	hi carlos-pol 
nov. 08 03:42:40 <carlos-pol>	someone is running FOCA free from POL?
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nov. 08 05:46:49 <usermegood-pol>	anyone available to help me install java real quick
nov. 08 05:47:13 <usermegood-pol>	i am to the last step where i create a symbolic link.. and its telling me that i cant... because im denied
nov. 08 05:54:17 <usermegood-pol>	*cricket*
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nov. 08 07:09:12 <eske-pol>	how do in install MSOffice on Mint>?
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nov. 08 10:26:49 <leo4as>	how can i install fifa13 ??
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nov. 08 10:41:10 <Marmotte>	bonjour Rafbill :)
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nov. 08 10:41:18 <Marmotte>	:(
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nov. 08 11:47:19 <Marmotte>	hi ptinou :)
nov. 08 11:47:24 <ptinou>	hi
nov. 08 11:50:09 <Marmotte>	(on peut parler français ici, ou vous préférez l'anglais si possible ?)
nov. 08 11:50:29 <ptinou>	tu peux parler français
nov. 08 11:50:35 <Marmotte>	ok ;)
nov. 08 11:50:39 <ptinou>	mais passe ton client irc en utf8
nov. 08 11:50:51 <Marmotte>	il est censé être en utf8 :(
nov. 08 11:50:57 <ptinou>	ben non
nov. 08 11:51:03 <Marmotte>	je vais checker alors
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nov. 08 11:53:11 <artix>	Hello everyone
nov. 08 11:53:16 <ptinou>	hello
nov. 08 11:53:45 <artix>	I would like to know if PlayOnLinux/Mac is open source
nov. 08 11:53:54 <ptinou>	it is
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nov. 08 11:54:34 <artix>	ok, thank you :)
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nov. 08 11:56:32 <Marmotte>	ptinou: j'ai changé un truc, c'est mieux pour l'utf8 ?
nov. 08 11:56:40 <ptinou>	non
nov. 08 11:56:45 <ptinou>	t'es sur xcode ?
nov. 08 11:56:46 <Marmotte>	Grrr
nov. 08 11:56:47 <ptinou>	xchat *
nov. 08 11:56:52 <Marmotte>	irssi dans screen
nov. 08 11:57:03 <Marmotte>	(dans deux screen, un local et un distant)
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nov. 08 11:59:25 <Marmotte>	ptinou: je vais essayer de ne pas mettre trop d'accents alors...
nov. 08 11:59:33 <Marmotte>	en attendant de savoir ce qui bloque
nov. 08 11:59:50 <ptinou>	ok
nov. 08 12:00:39 <Marmotte>	je voulais savoir si quelque chose est defini pour Diablo III, par rapport a ta proposition de discussion sur IRC, ou si c'est juste une idee pour l'instant
nov. 08 12:01:35 <ptinou>	pour l'instant, on essai de reproduire le problème
nov. 08 12:01:43 <ptinou>	l'idée c'est d'arriver à aller dire à blizzard, voila
nov. 08 12:01:46 <ptinou>	on fait ça sous ubuntu
nov. 08 12:01:51 <ptinou>	et on est banni systématiquement
nov. 08 12:02:01 <ptinou>	et ça ça suffirait à prouver qu'ils sont en tord
nov. 08 12:02:53 <Marmotte>	reproduire le probleme... tu essaies de te faire ban ?
nov. 08 12:03:14 <ptinou>	c'est le but
nov. 08 12:03:34 <Marmotte>	perso, j'ai rien fait d'autre que jouer pour me faire ban...
nov. 08 12:04:56 <ptinou>	t'as reçu le mail ?
nov. 08 12:05:00 <Marmotte>	si tu veux, je peux te transferer le mail que j'ai envoye a leur adresse mail de support, il y a beaucoup plus de details que sur le forul pol
nov. 08 12:05:10 <ptinou>	ouai balance
nov. 08 12:05:13 <Marmotte>	je peux te tranferere tous les mails de blizzard aussi
nov. 08 12:05:16 <Marmotte>	sur quelle adresse ?
nov. 08 12:05:26 <ptinou>	ubuntu ?
nov. 08 12:05:30 <ptinou>	contact @ pol
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nov. 08 12:19:40 <Marmotte>	c'est fait
nov. 08 12:19:54 <Marmotte>	j'ai joint le contenu de chaque mail dans un fichier texte
nov. 08 12:21:54 <ptinou>	ouai ils veulent vraiment rien savoir
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nov. 08 12:27:54 <Marmotte>	ils semblent avoir des periodes de verif pour les bans, vu que c'est ce que m'a dit le gars au telephone
nov. 08 12:28:06 <Marmotte>	du coup, essayer de se faire ban peut prendre du temps...
nov. 08 12:28:30 <ptinou>	d'où le nombre de ban importannt en ce moment
nov. 08 12:28:57 <Marmotte>	je pense qu'ils ont un check qui passe de temps en temps
nov. 08 12:29:05 <ptinou>	tu n'as aucun logiciels de cheat dans ton ordi ?
nov. 08 12:29:06 <Marmotte>	et qui ban apres une certaine periode de test
nov. 08 12:29:09 <Marmotte>	aucun
nov. 08 12:29:17 <Marmotte>	ni pour des jeux blizzard, ni pour aucun autre jeu
nov. 08 12:29:25 <ptinou>	même un .exe qui tourne pas ?
nov. 08 12:29:36 <ptinou>	aucuns jeux blizzard craqués ?
nov. 08 12:30:12 <Marmotte>	aucun crack sur des jeux blizzard, je les ai quasi tous achetes, a part WoW, auquel je ne joue quasi pas (uniquement edition decouverte)
nov. 08 12:30:28 <ptinou>	ni dans un dossier ?
nov. 08 12:30:47 <Marmotte>	pas a ma connaissance, je verifierai
nov. 08 12:30:52 <Marmotte>	je ne suis pas chez moi cette semaine
nov. 08 12:30:54 <ptinou>	un .exe pas net dans downloads
nov. 08 12:31:28 <Marmotte>	je n'utilise pas d'exe pas net ^^
nov. 08 12:31:40 <Marmotte>	et je n'en telecharge pas non plus
nov. 08 12:31:45 <ptinou>	ok ok
nov. 08 12:31:51 <ptinou>	je veux pas juger la
nov. 08 12:31:56 <Marmotte>	je joue sous windows avec des jeux que j'achete
nov. 08 12:32:01 <ptinou>	j'essais juste de comprendre
nov. 08 12:32:04 <Marmotte>	et sous linux je ne jouais qu'a diablo III
nov. 08 12:32:58 <Marmotte>	sur mon compte Bnet, j'ai register les cles de tous mes jeux blizzard : starcraft anthology, diablo II et son extension, warcraft III et son extension, starcraft II, diablo III, et j'ai aussi wow en edition decouverte (j'y joue quasi pas, juste pour voir de temps en temps)
nov. 08 12:33:05 <Marmotte>	donc aucune raison de cracker :D
nov. 08 12:33:11 <ptinou>	ok ok
nov. 08 12:33:19 <ptinou>	je me demandais juste si blizzard avec accès au disque dur
nov. 08 12:33:54 <Marmotte>	j'ai steam, sur lequel sont install cs1.6, cz, halflife, portal, team fortress 2 et dirst showdown (sur steam, donc aps crack, evidemment)
nov. 08 12:34:11 <ptinou>	est-ce que
nov. 08 12:34:16 <Marmotte>	j'ai aussi unreal tournament III install sur le PC, mais j'ai aussi la boite dans mon placard :D
nov. 08 12:34:17 <ptinou>	t'as déjà fait une recherche sur le net
nov. 08 12:34:21 <ptinou>	comment tricher à diablo ?
nov. 08 12:34:50 <Marmotte>	j'ai juste regarde une video qui montrait du dupe une fois, un lien sur le forum JH
nov. 08 12:35:05 <ptinou>	t'as l'adreses ?
nov. 08 12:35:19 <ptinou>	tu l'as regardée quand cette vidéo ?
nov. 08 12:35:48 <Marmotte>	dans les 2 dernieres semaines, je ne me rappelle pas exactement de la date
nov. 08 12:35:51 <Marmotte>	je vais chercher
nov. 08 12:36:08 <Marmotte>	http://forum.judgehype.com/judgehype/Diablo-III/dupe-force-sujet_2122_1.htm
nov. 08 12:36:16 <ptinou>	avant de te faire ban t'as regardé ça ?
nov. 08 12:38:01 <Marmotte>	avant, oui
nov. 08 12:38:04 <ptinou>	c'est illégal ces liens ?
nov. 08 12:38:07 <ptinou>	enfin c'est anti charte ?
nov. 08 12:38:12 <Marmotte>	j'en doute
nov. 08 12:38:20 <Marmotte>	regarder une video serait contre la charte ?
nov. 08 12:38:28 <ptinou>	non mais
nov. 08 12:38:31 <ptinou>	le contenu de la vidéo
nov. 08 12:38:35 <ptinou>	est-ce qu'il est contre la chart ?
nov. 08 12:38:39 <Marmotte>	ah, bah oui je pense :D
nov. 08 12:38:45 <ptinou>	bon
nov. 08 12:38:49 <ptinou>	ben c'est peut être ça
nov. 08 12:38:52 <Marmotte>	si le gars de la video utilise un outil de dupe, forcement...
nov. 08 12:38:59 <Marmotte>	je vais manger ++
nov. 08 12:39:02 <ptinou>	bonap
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nov. 08 13:25:47 <capman>	Hi guys
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nov. 08 14:15:30 <Marmotte>	ptinou: je viens de regarder, le lien vers la video a ete poste le 31 octobre sur le forum JH
nov. 08 14:15:51 <Marmotte>	le gars au telephone chez blizzard a dit que mon compte avait ete verifie entre le 14 et le 28 octobre
nov. 08 14:16:05 <Marmotte>	donc finalement, je pense que j'ai pas pu regarder la video avant ^^
nov. 08 14:16:35 <Marmotte>	par contre, le ban est apparu le 2 novembre, donc il reste un risque si l'info du gars du service client soit mauvaise...
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nov. 08 14:52:11 <edd-pol>	anyone here still play Diablo 3?
nov. 08 14:55:33 <capman>	Played it, until i got banned, and no, did not cheat :(
nov. 08 14:55:41 <capman>	But i refuse to buy another copy of it
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nov. 08 14:56:31 <edd-pol>	same here
nov. 08 14:58:13 <capman>	Ive created tickets, called them, and mailed them on another mail, and they still wont investigate it further :<
nov. 08 14:58:36 <Rafbill>	banned too
nov. 08 14:59:01 <capman>	I even offered me to send a cloned hard drive to them to test on, since it should give the same false positive they could just login with that hard-drive
nov. 08 15:03:10 <edd-pol>	its a shame, i play their games for 7 years
nov. 08 15:03:36 <capman>	Same here, played alot of their games, only bad one that hasnt gotten me i starcraft 2
nov. 08 15:03:43 <edd-pol>	still play Wow
nov. 08 15:03:49 <capman>	Started out with diablo 1
nov. 08 15:04:29 <Marmotte>	I started with Diablo 1 too
nov. 08 15:04:45 <Marmotte>	played Blizzard games since... at least 1998
nov. 08 15:05:15 <edd-pol>	was 7 years paying then
nov. 08 15:05:35 <Marmotte>	and get banned, considered as a cheater without any proof
nov. 08 15:07:05 <Gentle>	you already gave them more than they could ask for, over 1000 dollars in monthly fees alone, why should they care if you continue to pay or not ;)
nov. 08 15:07:22 <edd-pol>	but i want to know if ppl still plays on linux Diablo 3 without geting banned
nov. 08 15:08:34 <edd-pol>	this new wave ban will affect ppl again and again
nov. 08 15:09:31 <Marmotte>	I never bought WoW, I play it in free mode, and don't like
nov. 08 15:09:43 <Marmotte>	but I bought nearly all other Blizzard games
nov. 08 15:10:24 <Marmotte>	(I think about 200 euros total)
nov. 08 15:11:36 <edd-pol>	sad, really sad
nov. 08 15:11:48 <capman>	I think that most of the more experienced linuxplayers actually dont use any other applications, they just use wine and by that is safe
nov. 08 15:12:22 <capman>	We on the other hand has been using a wine-configurator in this case, that itself have some debugger inside that might call the wardens suspicion
nov. 08 15:12:49 <capman>	I really dont know how the mechanics works, but i know it produces false indications of thirdparty software :<
nov. 08 15:13:09 <Rafbill>	I don't think so, some non PoL users have been banned as well
nov. 08 15:13:30 <Gentle>	in that regard, PoL does nothing different from pure wine
nov. 08 15:13:43 <Gentle>	anything that would detect PoL as a debugger would detect pure wine aswell
nov. 08 15:14:49 <capman>	Perhaps, im just guessing here :/
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nov. 08 16:42:59 <Aknot>	When i install a game through playonlinux, will it download all directx, etc files if needed automatically?
nov. 08 16:43:26 <ptinou>	yes
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nov. 08 16:44:31 <Aknot>	but i installed tomb raider anniversary and it didnt install anything else. Not even directx which i havent installed
nov. 08 16:44:36 <Aknot>	and it wont start
nov. 08 16:44:49 <ptinou>	how did you install it … ?
nov. 08 16:45:44 <Aknot>	with playonlinux
nov. 08 16:45:49 <ptinou>	yes but how ?
nov. 08 16:46:02 <Aknot>	mounted the .iso and installed
nov. 08 16:46:14 <ptinou>	Ok.
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nov. 08 16:46:19 <ptinou>	http://playonlinux.com/en/terms.html
nov. 08 16:46:20 <ptinou>	read that
nov. 08 16:46:46 <Dougie187>	ptinou: you see the D3 ban template? a bunch more people posted in it
nov. 08 16:46:58 <ptinou>	I've seen it yes.
nov. 08 16:46:59 <ptinou>	a question
nov. 08 16:47:12 <ptinou>	do you have any pirated blizzard programs on your hard drive
nov. 08 16:47:18 <ptinou>	any crack, any .exe made to cheat?
nov. 08 16:47:21 <Dougie187>	Nope
nov. 08 16:47:34 <Dougie187>	I literally only had SC2 and D3 installed
nov. 08 16:47:35 <ptinou>	have you seen videos on the internet about cheating ?
nov. 08 16:47:37 <ptinou>	any tutorial ?
nov. 08 16:47:53 <Dougie187>	No, I was actually thinking about it this morning. And I was curious if it's even possible to hack/cheat with linux
nov. 08 16:48:12 <ptinou>	so you never get information about it ?
nov. 08 16:48:16 <Dougie187>	nope
nov. 08 16:48:19 <ptinou>	ok
nov. 08 16:48:28 <ptinou>	seems to be a ubuntu problem
nov. 08 16:48:31 <ptinou>	defenitely
nov. 08 16:48:42 <Dougie187>	Yeah, it looks like everyone who got banned is using ubuntu
nov. 08 16:48:51 <Dougie187>	or mint
nov. 08 16:48:53 <Dougie187>	but that's really just ubuntu
nov. 08 16:49:16 <Dougie187>	All of it's 64 bit too
nov. 08 16:49:28 <Dougie187>	so it could be a 64bit wine problem (it also seems like noone is using the set arch fix)
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nov. 08 16:49:40 <ptinou>	we use 32 bits wine
nov. 08 16:50:25 <Dougie187>	Ah yeah that's true.
nov. 08 16:50:29 <Dougie187>	But does that do the setarch fix too?
nov. 08 16:50:38 <Marmotte>	the Diablo III install script for PoL says that Ubuntu has changed something, and can cause an error when logging on the game
nov. 08 16:50:39 <ptinou>	nope
nov. 08 16:50:42 <ptinou>	look at the script
nov. 08 16:50:45 <Marmotte>	(the line about ptrace)
nov. 08 16:51:40 <Marmotte>	this behavior seems to appear since Ubuntu 12.04 only
nov. 08 16:52:04 <Dougie187>	where is the install script?
nov. 08 16:52:31 <Marmotte>	I search for the source page :)
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nov. 08 16:53:00 <BrendansMac-pom>	hello
nov. 08 16:53:11 <ptinou>	hello
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nov. 08 16:53:19 <Marmotte>	http://www.playonlinux.com/fr/source_ajax-1195-Diablo_III.html
nov. 08 16:53:35 <Vision-X>	what games are there to play on mac?
nov. 08 16:53:40 <ptinou>	?
nov. 08 16:53:42 <Dougie187>	ptinou: I want to say again, thanks for trying to help us with this.
nov. 08 16:53:48 <ptinou>	you're welcome
nov. 08 16:53:53 <Marmotte>	this line : POL_SetupWindow_message "$(eval_gettext '$TITLE has been installed.\n\nA special thank to Erich Hoover for his wine patch (AcceptEx Fix)')\n\n$(eval_gettext 'If you have Error 3007 on connecting, open a terminal and type:\necho 0|sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope')"
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nov. 08 16:54:14 <Marmotte>	can this error cause the ban ?
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nov. 08 16:54:22 <ptinou>	It should not
nov. 08 16:54:23 <Dougie187>	Well, someone said they used that in the information thread
nov. 08 16:54:29 <Marmotte>	I didn't have to type this command to play :)
nov. 08 16:54:33 <Dougie187>	me either
nov. 08 16:54:54 <Dougie187>	The use of that line is not common between everyone who got banned.
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nov. 08 16:55:01 <Dougie187>	Since some people used it, and some didn't
nov. 08 16:55:13 <Marmotte>	ok
nov. 08 16:55:33 <Marmotte>	I don't know exactly what it does
nov. 08 16:55:39 <Dougie187>	It disables pthreads
nov. 08 16:55:41 <Dougie187>	from what I understand
nov. 08 16:56:02 <Dougie187>	From that template, the only common things between everyone are ubuntu and 64 bit.
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nov. 08 16:56:55 <Dougie187>	err not pthreads, ptrace
nov. 08 16:57:46 <Marmotte>	I didn't install any other game under Linux, only Diablo III, which was the game I played "a lot" (more than other games)...
nov. 08 16:57:56 <Marmotte>	I played all other games under Windows
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nov. 08 16:58:44 <Marmotte>	I think I'll continue to play on Windows... needs rebooting, but safe
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nov. 08 16:59:06 <datti-pol>	hi
nov. 08 17:00:11 <Aknot>	Ok i got it installed but when i launch it all i see is black but i hear the sounds
nov. 08 17:00:17 <Aknot>	The game is tomb raider anniversary
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nov. 08 17:00:59 <quiscual-pol>	hola
nov. 08 17:00:59 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel quiscual-pol
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nov. 08 17:04:28 <Dougie187>	Do you guys know if it's even possible to hack in D3 on linux?
nov. 08 17:04:49 <Dougie187>	I wasn't even sure if programs could communicate with each other within wine
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nov. 08 17:06:09 <Marmotte>	Dougie187: All is possible :)
nov. 08 17:06:17 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 08 17:06:29 <Marmotte>	I don't know how, but it's possible
nov. 08 17:06:36 <Dougie187>	well, is it as easy as hacking in windows I mean. Like can you just download some hack (like a D2 maphack) and have it work
nov. 08 17:07:04 <Dougie187>	I don't know what hacks exist for D3, but apparently (based on the ban notice) they have hacks for teleporting and running through walls.
nov. 08 17:25:15 <Dougie187>	ptinou: in #r/linux another linux user says he hasn't been banned yet. and he's playing on fedora 17.
nov. 08 17:25:43 <Dougie187>	His wine ver is wine-1.5.13-1.fc17.x86_64
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nov. 08 17:30:47 <Dougie187>	He said he's going to ask a friend from blizzard what they check for
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nov. 08 18:22:28 <braxi-pol>	Heya, how do i update playonlinux from version 4.0.14 to 4.0.18 without uninstalling app?
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nov. 08 19:21:17 <pangoafk>	Dougie187: this instruction does not disable ptrace, it disables the Yama patch that restricts ptrace usage - in other words, it enables ptrace in more cases
nov. 08 19:21:28 <Dougie187>	Oh ok
nov. 08 19:21:46 <pangoafk>	http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/security/Yama.txt
nov. 08 19:21:47 <Dougie187>	That goes to show my lack of knowledge wrt to that command. :P
nov. 08 19:22:05 <Dougie187>	I have someone else trying to use his blizzard contacts to get someone to look at the issue too
nov. 08 19:22:43 <pangoafk>	at the root the Yama patch is a security patch that restrict what processes can use "debugger features" on another (set breakpoints, pick into memory,...)
nov. 08 19:22:46 <pangoafk>	peek*
nov. 08 19:23:03 <Dougie187>	Oh ok
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nov. 08 19:23:27 <Dougie187>	So, using the ptrace=0 on D3 could potentially be an issue?
nov. 08 19:23:51 <Dougie187>	because you're taking away all restrictions, and warden might see that as things peeking into memory?
nov. 08 19:24:31 <pangoafk>	If that could be detected as some kind of "debugger usage" from the point of view of some Windows code, maybe
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nov. 08 19:25:08 <Dougie187>	well, at least that's a starting point. :P
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nov. 08 19:26:05 <Rafbill>	Blizzard blog post : http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6469730/Diablo_III_Accounts_Banned-08_11_2012
nov. 08 19:26:08 <pango>	I'm not sure how a debugger related feature can "translate" as a debugger feature in a different emulated environment, though
nov. 08 19:27:22 <Dougie187>	So, they basically say you can be banned for playing on linux
nov. 08 19:28:07 <pango>	But then they should say it clearly and officially
nov. 08 19:29:08 <Dougie187>	Yeah, agreed
nov. 08 19:29:34 <pango>	From what I understand that was not they stance vs. playing their games under Linux with Wine
nov. 08 19:29:51 <pango>	So either they changed that, or the problem is something more specific
nov. 08 19:30:10 <Dougie187>	It wasn't according to Bashiok
nov. 08 19:30:30 <Dougie187>	http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5978861022?page=21#402
nov. 08 19:30:55 <Rafbill>	do you think the Linux issue is related to the cheat zooming out the game view ?
nov. 08 19:31:59 <Rafbill>	It may be a window / mouse issue if a bug caused the mouse to go out of the window and aim attacks out of the window ?
nov. 08 19:32:00 <Dougie187>	no, that never happened to me (at least that I noticed)
nov. 08 19:32:08 <pango>	I have no idea how such cheat works under Windows, hence I don't know what they could have tested to detect it
nov. 08 19:32:12 <Dougie187>	and I only played full screen
nov. 08 19:32:17 <Dougie187>	^^ @pango
nov. 08 19:33:13 <pango>	nor the probability of some feature of Wine/X/video drivers/... to trigger such test
nov. 08 19:48:51 <cesarz>	hmm so i can get ban for change window with game for bigger?
nov. 08 19:51:42 <pango>	just playing windowed could be enough, who knows
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nov. 08 20:21:50 <sonori>	for sure, if Blizzard would share data with them
nov. 08 20:22:10 <Dougie187>	I wonder how we would go about doing tat
nov. 08 20:22:12 <Dougie187>	that*
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nov. 08 20:22:21 <sonori>	but seeing their attitude it seems ... not likely
nov. 08 20:22:28 <Dougie187>	yeah
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nov. 08 20:23:50 <Dougie187>	They have a pretty terrible attitude towards their users.
nov. 08 20:24:02 <Dougie187>	It's very depressing. Considering I had this amazing opinion of them previously.
nov. 08 20:24:10 <sonori>	at least this time they didn't say "Linux is fine" so perhaps less people will be banned in the future
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nov. 08 20:24:27 <Dougie187>	mostly because they stop using linux.
nov. 08 20:25:12 <sonori>	that is exactly what I mean
nov. 08 20:25:17 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 08 20:25:20 <Gentle>	Dougie187: be careful with saying "they". Blizzard fired everyone who worked on all games prior to WoW
nov. 08 20:25:49 <Dougie187>	That sucks. Even the original SC people?
nov. 08 20:25:59 <sonori>	I know - I meant the Actiblizzard
nov. 08 20:26:34 <sonori>	some people are left, but only few
nov. 08 20:26:39 <Gentle>	the guys who invented battle.net and the mpq file format founded Arenanet (Guildwars1+2), the guys who made DIablo1+2 founded Runic (Torchlight1+2), some went to mythic and I don't know about the rest
nov. 08 20:27:44 <Dougie187>	Well, I assume they didn't work/manager customer support though, which is what I'm having the biggest problem with right now
nov. 08 20:28:01 <Dougie187>	they really convey a message that they only want more money out of you and they don't care if you remain a customer or not.
nov. 08 20:28:23 <Dougie187>	As long as the game is "fun" for the 12 people not-banned who keep playing it (I know that's an over-exaggeration)...
nov. 08 20:28:48 <Gentle>	well, this might sound harsh in your position, but Blizzard really has one of the best customer support in the industry
nov. 08 20:29:44 <Dougie187>	Well, they have a really terrible method of conveying that.
nov. 08 20:30:07 <Dougie187>	I have not received any responses to my tickets that make me feel like a valued customer, or that they care about anything aside from my $60
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nov. 08 20:30:29 <Gentle>	how long did you wait yet?
nov. 08 20:30:34 <Dougie187>	I mean hell, the ban notice says "The only way to continue playing Diablo III is to purchase a new license, or to attempt to recover access by appealing account closure."
nov. 08 20:30:37 <Dougie187>	I got banned on Friday
nov. 08 20:30:53 <Dougie187>	either friday morning or super later thursday night
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nov. 08 20:31:15 <Dougie187>	And I've filed ~6 tickets so far
nov. 08 20:31:18 <Dougie187>	maybe even 7
nov. 08 20:31:42 <Gentle>	that's indeed slow for Blizzard support, but then again, some other companies let you wait for at least a month before you hear anything from them. I'm not defending Blizzard, just that I had to deal with support from other companies too often, and they are honestly almost all worse
nov. 08 20:31:50 <sonori>	my brother is playing from fedora with PoL 4.1.8 and 1.5.5-DiabloIII_v3 wine bottle  almost since the release - he did not get banned
nov. 08 20:31:53 <Gentle>	oh.
nov. 08 20:32:12 <Gentle>	As a support employee myself, I tend to ignore users who make more than one ticket extra long
nov. 08 20:32:16 <Gentle>	but don't tell my boss ;P
nov. 08 20:32:41 <Dougie187>	sonori: it definitely seems like an ubuntu issue then
nov. 08 20:33:04 <Dougie187>	Gentle: well, I didn't open another ticket until they closed the previous ones. But their responses clearly don't address any of the content of my tickets.
nov. 08 20:33:10 <capman>	After that statement its kinda silly that they just say 3rd party software to most of them, since that could include playonlinux etc
nov. 08 20:33:14 <Dougie187>	I have to admit, they have been relatively fast at responding to the tickets.
nov. 08 20:33:34 <Dougie187>	capman: exactly. which is why they are essentially saying "playing on linux can get you banned"
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nov. 08 20:33:47 <Gentle>	Dougie187: the sad thing is, usually Blizzard's stance towards false positives is "there are no false positives"
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nov. 08 20:33:57 <Gentle>	if you got banned, then you have botted. Period. Buy a new CD key.
nov. 08 20:34:15 <Dougie187>	Gentle: I know. That's super annoying. I've been trying to get someone to listen to me so I can show them it's a false positive, but they don't care.
nov. 08 20:34:28 <Dougie187>	If they think you hacked, you hacked, and then you're dead to them.
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nov. 08 20:35:12 <capman>	I would realy know what i did wrong then, and they just says its non debateable
nov. 08 20:35:23 <Gentle>	Dougie187: I heard that they give in when you have a lawyer, if you or your family does have one, ask him if he could write them a letter, saying that they deny you access to something you paid for
nov. 08 20:35:27 <sonori>	why should they?  you got banned and they didn't . They feel superior, so they are rubbing it in
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nov. 08 20:36:07 <Dougie187>	Gentle: not a bad idea. I do have a friend in law school
nov. 08 20:36:15 <sonori>	btw - did you see Tinou today?
nov. 08 20:36:17 <Gentle>	the thing is, this whole game account thing is not based off existing laws
nov. 08 20:36:30 <jamison_>	hey... I'm new to playonlinux... can someone direct me to some good faq questions about setting up games on it... and configuring/troubleshooting problems with games not playing right...
nov. 08 20:36:31 <Dougie187>	yeah Tinou was in earlier
nov. 08 20:36:33 <Gentle>	at least in Europe, the EULA doesn't hold in court
nov. 08 20:36:51 <Gentle>	so basically, what Blizzard is doing is denying you access to your own property
nov. 08 20:36:54 <Dougie187>	yeah, I doubt the EULA would hold in court here either.
nov. 08 20:37:04 <Dougie187>	well, parts of it at least.
nov. 08 20:37:08 <Dougie187>	I'm not in Europe.
nov. 08 20:37:11 <Dougie187>	:P
nov. 08 20:38:18 <Gentle>	if you're in USA, the license is pretty much binding. You paid for a license and they can revoke your license. Europe ruling says that you can't sell licenses without selling the licensed product, so according to European law, you own the account and when Blizzard bans you, they just stole your property
nov. 08 20:38:54 <Dougie187>	well, maybe all the EU people can sue blizzard, and get it overturned.
nov. 08 20:38:56 <Dougie187>	ionno
nov. 08 20:39:02 <Gentle>	hence why they rather give you your account back than risking going to court, if your lawyer would insist for a court ruling
nov. 08 20:39:10 <Dougie187>	but they have in their license agreement that you agree to not file a class action lawsuit
nov. 08 20:39:19 <sonori>	http://www.webpronews.com/blizzard-facing-investigations-in-france-germany-over-diablo-iii-2012-06 - anyone knows if anything came out of it?
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nov. 08 20:40:12 <Gentle>	nothing at all
nov. 08 20:40:31 <Gentle>	but that lawsuit was about the realmoney auctions
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nov. 08 20:41:19 <Gentle>	oh btw, technically Diablo3 is illegal in Germany either way
nov. 08 20:41:33 <sonori>	why is that?
nov. 08 20:42:40 <Gentle>	online gambling with real money is forbidden (the law was meant for Poker and bidding), and that law is so generic that it covers the RMT auctions in Diablo3
nov. 08 20:43:58 <Gentle>	if you can pay real money to participate in a game of chance, that's forbidden, or rather, only allowed for 18 and over as long as the operator pays heavy taxes and agrees to be regulated by the state
nov. 08 20:44:56 <Dougie187>	Which they most likely didn't do
nov. 08 20:45:02 <Dougie187>	And is therefore illegal?
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nov. 08 20:45:30 <Gentle>	they try to argue that this is clearly no game of chance, but in the end, they do everything they can to avoid court
nov. 08 20:49:35 <Gentle>	but the point is, Acitivision made Blizzard greedy. This is not the company we grew up with
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nov. 08 20:52:15 <Dougie187>	http://vexfloss.blogspot.com/2012/10/not-your-usual-banned-from-diablo-3-for.html
nov. 08 20:52:20 <Dougie187>	Gentle: yeah, that's what I've been noticing.
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nov. 08 20:53:47 <kyanosh-pom>	how does this works?
nov. 08 20:54:49 <Gentle>	this as in?
nov. 08 20:56:49 <kyanosh-pom>	i want to play game
nov. 08 20:57:05 <kyanosh-pom>	and i dont know how it works
nov. 08 20:57:25 <cesarz>	if its diablo 3 don't do it :)
nov. 08 20:57:33 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 08 20:57:36 <kyanosh-pom>	lool
nov. 08 20:57:45 <kyanosh-pom>	no its command and conquer
nov. 08 20:57:49 <kyanosh-pom>	red alert
nov. 08 20:58:06 <sonori>	it's not safe for your account - especially if you use (X/K)Ubuntu
nov. 08 20:58:07 <kyanosh-pom>	how can i play Red alert on my macbook pro
nov. 08 20:59:19 <kyanosh-pom>	????????
nov. 08 20:59:22 <cesarz>	hmm pol  is also for mac?
nov. 08 20:59:32 <Gentle>	pom
nov. 08 20:59:42 <Gentle>	see topic, pol has linux and mac versions
nov. 08 21:00:46 <kyanosh-pom>	hmmmm
nov. 08 21:00:49 <cesarz>	oh ok
nov. 08 21:01:04 <kyanosh-pom>	C&C?
nov. 08 21:01:41 <kyanosh-pom>	it aks me for a CD-ROM
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nov. 08 21:02:00 <sonori>	do you have legal copy?
nov. 08 21:02:07 <Dougie187>	cesarz: Can you post your ban template in the template thread?
nov. 08 21:02:13 <Dougie187>	just to keep it all in the same place
nov. 08 21:02:38 <cesarz>	i forgot password to account
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nov. 08 21:03:29 <Dougie187>	:P
nov. 08 21:04:57 <brakha-pol>	hello everybody
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nov. 08 21:06:07 <brakha-pol>	hello Marmotte
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nov. 08 21:06:56 <orogor-pol>	hi
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nov. 08 21:07:26 <david-pol>	better with my first name
nov. 08 21:08:08 <pango>	hi orogor-pol 
nov. 08 21:08:11 <orogor-pol>	anyone here managed to get drakensang online to work ?
nov. 08 21:09:21 <david-pol>	i want too
nov. 08 21:09:27 <orogor-pol>	should be a  "simple" browser game :) apparently it ties with dirctx and java
nov. 08 21:10:17 <orogor-pol>	u got the screen lock error too ?
nov. 08 21:11:01 <david-pol>	i have got a .exe and when i begin the game it have got an error... so i don't know...
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nov. 08 21:13:23 <orogor-pol>	i tried to change the display settings, but no luck
nov. 08 21:13:43 <orogor-pol>	tried to install an older  java , no luck as well
nov. 08 21:13:50 <sonori>	I'll be going now. give my regards to Tinou of he shows up
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nov. 08 21:14:21 <david-pol>	try to download the install program orogor
nov. 08 21:15:20 <orogor-pol>	thats  what i did, why else would i be using pol ?
nov. 08 21:17:29 <david-pol>	wine
nov. 08 21:18:27 <orogor-pol>	which error do u get exactly ?
nov. 08 21:19:13 <david-pol>	i don't know... i uninstall all this broken apps of my linux lol i'm bored
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nov. 08 21:22:21 <Marmotte>	I got an answer from blizzard : my diablo III account will remain suspended :(
nov. 08 21:23:11 <david-pol>	you are not french Marmotte?
nov. 08 21:23:25 <Dougie187>	Marmotte: that's what they tell everyone.
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nov. 08 21:24:25 <Rafbill>	Same answer from csfeedbackeu@blizzard.com
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nov. 08 21:26:31 <Marmotte>	david-pol: si, francais :)
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nov. 08 21:27:45 <Dougie187>	Rafbill & Marmotte you guys should write hacks@blizzard.com
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nov. 08 21:28:07 <Dougie187>	I don't know how much help it's going to be, but it might be some. :P
nov. 08 21:29:23 <Rafbill>	Isn't hacks@blizzard.com for hack reporting ? Emails to hacks@blizzard.com don't get answered. (http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/submit/hacks.html)
nov. 08 21:33:49 <Dougie187>	Well, that's where the phone support told me to email
nov. 08 21:34:04 <Dougie187>	they said that the people who work there are responsible for determining false positives.
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nov. 08 21:47:48 <Marmotte>	r
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nov. 08 22:10:23 -->	You are now talking on #playonlinux
nov. 08 22:10:24 ---	Topic for #playonlinux is PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac Official IRC | http://www.playonlinux.com/ http://www.playonmac.com/ | Latest version: 4.1.8 | Please speak English or French; We may not answer immediately. | We do not support piracy.
nov. 08 22:10:24 ---	Topic for #playonlinux set by aplu!~APLU@2a02-8420-6992-5900-5115-a87b-6639-6726.rev.sfr.net at Fri Sep 21 20:04:37 2012
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nov. 08 22:11:31 <usuario-pol>	oa
nov. 08 22:11:37 <usuario-pol>	ola
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nov. 08 22:12:08 <pango>	hi
nov. 08 22:12:32 <Willyrex>	where are you from'
nov. 08 22:12:34 <Willyrex>	?
nov. 08 22:12:39 <pango>	near Bordeaux
nov. 08 22:12:45 <Willyrex>	ok
nov. 08 22:12:52 <Willyrex>	i'm from spain
nov. 08 22:13:04 <pango>	guessed so :)
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nov. 08 22:13:37 <ptinou>	plop pango
nov. 08 22:13:41 <pango>	hello
nov. 08 22:13:43 <ptinou>	bioshock a l'air d'être gratuit
nov. 08 22:13:46 <Willyrex>	i speak english :)
nov. 08 22:13:50 <ptinou>	y'a ptete moyen de faire un évènement
nov. 08 22:14:01 <Willyrex>	WTFÇ
nov. 08 22:14:13 <Willyrex>	what??
nov. 08 22:14:20 <pango>	Willyrex: sure, but you greated everyone with ola at first :)
nov. 08 22:14:31 <Willyrex>	xd
nov. 08 22:14:57 <Willyrex>	i don't know you're from other country
nov. 08 22:15:16 <Willyrex>	i ss
nov. 08 22:15:36 <Dougie187>	ptinou: you see the recent blog post from blizz?
nov. 08 22:15:57 <ptinou>	no ?
nov. 08 22:16:13 <Dougie187>	one sec, I'll link you
nov. 08 22:16:24 <Dougie187>	http://vexfloss.blogspot.com/2012/10/not-your-usual-banned-from-diablo-3-for.html
nov. 08 22:16:29 <Dougie187>	whoops
nov. 08 22:16:33 <Dougie187>	http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/7810825/Diablo_III_Players_Banned-11_8_2012
nov. 08 22:16:33 <Dougie187>	there
nov. 08 22:16:43 <Dougie187>	They basically say you can be banned for using linux, without saying it
nov. 08 22:20:56 <cesarz>	hmm maybe i should write email to http://uokik.gov.pl/home.php
nov. 08 22:23:36 <Marmotte>	They say you can be banned here, and they say that Linux users are never banned for solely using Wine...
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nov. 08 22:24:33 <Marmotte>	I answered their email asking if they can show the full list of Linux configurations they have used for testing
nov. 08 22:24:42 <Marmotte>	I wonder this list is not confidential :)
nov. 08 22:24:55 <Dougie187>	I bet it is.
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nov. 08 22:36:15 <Dougie187>	I wrote to the customer support to ask if that blog post means that now they can and will ban people for using linux.
nov. 08 22:36:28 <Dougie187>	we'll see what they say
nov. 08 22:37:38 <Marmotte>	I bet this blog post has been posted because they have many contacts for banned accounts since a week...
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nov. 08 22:44:03 <Dougie187>	I bet that's true.
nov. 08 22:44:13 <Dougie187>	Ionno though, it's not going to stop me making tickets.
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nov. 08 22:46:40 <Marmotte>	[1;5C[1;3D[1;3C&t
nov. 08 22:46:40 <Marmotte>	ytt[1;3D[1;3C&
nov. 08 22:47:12 <Marmotte>	(oops, sry)
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nov. 08 23:05:33 <ptinou>	it is not written linux on the post
nov. 08 23:05:57 <Dougie187>	I know, but they say *any* third party software
nov. 08 23:06:01 <Dougie187>	which could include wine or playonlinux
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nov. 08 23:15:51 <th3pun15h3r>	hi looking for help with the following error PlayOnLinux is unable to find 32bits OpenGL libraries.
nov. 08 23:15:51 <th3pun15h3r>	You might encounter problem with your games
nov. 08 23:16:59 <pango>	that means that video acceleration is not/badly installed for 32bit programs
nov. 08 23:17:47 <th3pun15h3r>	hmm
nov. 08 23:19:06 <pango>	that usually means reinstalling video libraries with support for 32bit programs, or add those if they're packaged separately
nov. 08 23:19:27 <pango>	the way to do this depends on both your distribution and on your hardware
nov. 08 23:20:04 <th3pun15h3r>	Crunchbang Waldorf (debian wheezy amd64) nvidia gtx 560ti
nov. 08 23:20:43 <th3pun15h3r>	getting tempted to just go back to ubuntu
nov. 08 23:20:50 <pango>	wheezy mmmh so you're on the middle of the bridge of multiarch support
nov. 08 23:21:01 <th3pun15h3r>	gotta go to sid?
nov. 08 23:21:30 <pango>	it has already been reported the improve the situation at least once in the forums
nov. 08 23:21:36 <pango>	s/the/to/
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nov. 08 23:22:20 <th3pun15h3r>	I am also tempted to go back to ubuntu because the steam beta client is out and got ahold of the steam.deb file
nov. 08 23:24:45 <th3pun15h3r>	does sid have multarch support?
nov. 08 23:25:14 <pango>	yup, almost complete now I think
nov. 08 23:25:37 <pango>	can't remove every transition packages because of Google Earth and Skype, at least
nov. 08 23:26:18 <pango>	but the packaged nvidia drivers are now in multiarch for sure
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nov. 08 23:40:02 <Marmotte>	ptinou: voila la reponse de Blizzard recue ce soir : http://forum.judgehype.com/judgehype/Diablo-III/fermeture-compte-sujet_2129_2.htm#t121890
nov. 08 23:40:56 <ptinou>	c'est assez hallucinant
nov. 08 23:41:37 <Marmotte>	ils parlent bien d'utilisation en tous cas, pas juste de presence sur le disque (par rapport a tes questions de cet aprem)
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nov. 08 23:42:48 <ptinou>	ils répondent encore à tes demandes ou pas ?
nov. 08 23:43:05 <Marmotte>	bah c'est le mail de reponse a celui que j'ai envoye dimanche dernier
nov. 08 23:43:12 <Marmotte>	ils l'ont envoye ce soir
nov. 08 23:43:15 <Marmotte>	vers 19h50
nov. 08 23:43:25 <Marmotte>	donc oui, ils ont l'air de repondre encore
nov. 08 23:43:31 <Marmotte>	meme si c'est lent
nov. 08 23:43:47 <ptinou>	hum
nov. 08 23:44:59 <Marmotte>	meme s'ils n'ont pas l'air de tenir compte de ce que je raconte (ou alors qu'ils sont vraiment surs d'eux), le service client a l'air de repondre et rester sympa, c'est deja pas mal... même si ca ne change rien au probleme
nov. 08 23:45:36 <ptinou>	ben ils te voient comme in tricheur
nov. 08 23:46:34 <Marmotte>	oui, j'ai compris ^^
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nov. 09 01:29:41 <wily-pol>	probando
nov. 09 01:30:08 <wily-pol>	alguna nena linuxinera?
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nov. 09 02:07:43 <Dougie187>	Any news guys?
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nov. 09 04:23:00 <kikanel-pom>	anyone in brooklyn?
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nov. 09 04:52:30 <kikanel-pom>	hello?
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nov. 09 06:17:49 <usermegood-pol>	hello, anyone around?
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nov. 09 06:40:20 <usermegood-pol>	im really in need of help here
nov. 09 06:41:23 <usermegood-pol>	i updated ubuntu, and now it does not recognize my internal wireless controller
nov. 09 06:41:33 <usermegood-pol>	their forums/ help sites are no good
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nov. 09 07:19:20 <tosser-pol>	hi people
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nov. 09 07:57:21 <mauro-pol>	Hola!
nov. 09 07:57:21 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel mauro-pol
nov. 09 07:57:41 <mauro-pol>	hello?
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nov. 09 12:52:53 <Rafbill>	About Diablo III bans, can the fact I used a symbolic link to MPQ folder be relevant ?
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nov. 09 12:55:38 <j-pol>	hello everyone. Does someone succesed to play league of legend overhere?
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nov. 09 13:55:06 <Marmotte>	Rafbill: I didn't modify anything in the wineprefix created by pol for Diablo 3
nov. 09 13:55:27 <Rafbill>	ok
nov. 09 13:55:31 <Marmotte>	and didn't change anything in the wine configuration
nov. 09 13:55:39 <Marmotte>	I really only installed, then played Diablo 3
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nov. 09 14:58:36 <poushon-pol>	Hi all
nov. 09 15:04:26 <poushon-pol>	sleep powa ^
nov. 09 15:04:33 <Marmotte>	:)
nov. 09 15:05:12 <poushon-pol>	oh, un français :)
nov. 09 15:05:22 <Marmotte>	ça se voit tellement ?
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nov. 09 15:23:09 <poushon-pol>	J'ai une tuile avec un jeu sur POL, qqun aurait 5 min a m'accorder ? :)
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nov. 09 15:27:35 <Poushatz>	re
nov. 09 15:27:56 <Poushatz>	j'ai une tuile avec un jeu dans POL, qqun aurait 5 min pour m'éclairer svp ?
nov. 09 15:34:25 <Gentle>	fascinating how my 10-years-ago school French is enough to read those questions
nov. 09 15:36:49 <lordheavy>	Poushatz: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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nov. 09 15:40:04 <lordheavy>	en français :-) http://www.gnurou.org/writing/smartquestionsfr
nov. 09 15:40:41 <Marmotte>	il est parti, lordheavy ^^
nov. 09 15:40:51 <lordheavy>	hélas!
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nov. 09 16:39:26 <Dougie187>	Anyone have any news on the Diablo 3 ban front?
nov. 09 16:44:06 <Marmotte>	last news were the same as before : they don't seem to unban anyone
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nov. 09 16:50:26 <Dougie187>	You saw the new post on cinemablend?
nov. 09 16:55:01 <Marmotte>	no
nov. 09 16:57:14 <Dougie187>	http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Lots-Linux-Users-Perma-Banned-Diablo-3-Again-49121.html
nov. 09 16:59:47 <Marmotte>	I'm reading now :)
nov. 09 16:59:51 <Marmotte>	thx for the link ;)
nov. 09 17:03:51 <Dougie187>	np
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nov. 09 17:06:49 <tapahbl4-pol>	hi
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nov. 09 18:20:09 <Dougie187>	Any of the people who got banned for playing D3 get Torchlight 2?
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nov. 09 18:37:53 <DarkNekros>	Dougie187, not me, I have both of them :D
nov. 09 18:38:27 <Dougie187>	Want to play some TL2?
nov. 09 18:38:28 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 09 18:38:49 <DarkNekros>	not now, sorry, but you can find me as darknekros ;)
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nov. 09 18:39:54 <Dougie187>	How do I add people? :P
nov. 09 18:45:31 <DarkNekros>	in the game, in the internet part
nov. 09 18:45:44 <Dougie187>	can you do it inside a game?
nov. 09 18:45:51 <Dougie187>	or do you have to be at the create game menu?
nov. 09 18:45:53 <Gentle>	I think not
nov. 09 18:46:00 <Dougie187>	Oh ok.
nov. 09 18:46:11 <Gentle>	right now, friendlist and stuff is separate from ingame, you also can't whisper friends that are not in your game :/
nov. 09 18:46:11 <DarkNekros>	create game meni
nov. 09 18:46:22 <Dougie187>	lame. lol
nov. 09 18:46:29 <DarkNekros>	menu*
nov. 09 18:48:56 <Gentle>	Dougie187: name?
nov. 09 18:49:03 <Dougie187>	BrownTsunami
nov. 09 18:50:28 <Dougie187>	What's yours?
nov. 09 18:51:44 <Gentle>	is it the accountname you log in with?
nov. 09 18:52:04 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 09 18:52:14 <Dougie187>	I also have a steam name, if you are through steam
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nov. 09 18:58:17 <lord-pol>	what's this?
nov. 09 18:59:35 <lord-pol>	OK, I probably got it.
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nov. 09 20:12:41 <Dougie187>	ptinou: hows it going?
nov. 09 20:12:55 <ptinou>	hi
nov. 09 20:12:57 <ptinou>	fine and you ?
nov. 09 20:13:01 <Dougie187>	Pretty good.
nov. 09 20:13:14 <Dougie187>	There was a new cinema blend article.
nov. 09 20:13:21 <ptinou>	:)
nov. 09 20:13:35 <Dougie187>	http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Lots-Linux-Users-Perma-Banned-Diablo-3-Again-49121.html
nov. 09 20:14:10 <ptinou>	I think blizzard shot themself in the foot
nov. 09 20:14:21 <Dougie187>	Hopefully they will see that too. :P
nov. 09 20:14:31 <Dougie187>	But based on the templated data so far it seems it's one of two issues.
nov. 09 20:14:39 <Dougie187>	Either ubuntu+spinoffs or ptrace_scope
nov. 09 20:18:31 ---	You are now known as pango
nov. 09 20:18:42 <pango>	Good evening everybody
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nov. 09 20:18:58 <Dougie187>	hey pango
nov. 09 20:19:53 <pango>	After some thinking, I'm somewhat doubtful ptrace_scope=0 is the reason for issues under Ubuntu, given that it merely provides the behavior you get from most other distros that lack Yama patch
nov. 09 20:20:09 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 09 20:21:01 <Dougie187>	so, what now?
nov. 09 20:22:10 <pango>	I suspect it's most often Ubuntu users that get banned just by the popularity of this distro, specially among players I suppose
nov. 09 20:22:44 <pango>	correlation does not imply causation
nov. 09 20:22:48 <Dougie187>	true
nov. 09 20:23:01 <Dougie187>	So, to reword what you're saying.
nov. 09 20:23:29 <Dougie187>	Any linux/wine user can be banned at any point in time. Because warden is like a random sample, it's chance that the random sample happened to be all linux users
nov. 09 20:23:48 <pango>	or the reason is still unknown
nov. 09 20:24:00 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 09 20:24:08 <Dougie187>	but the reason could be those wine bugs.
nov. 09 20:24:20 <Dougie187>	http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30849 specifically
nov. 09 20:24:41 <pango>	we talked a bit about playing windowed that could trigger some zoom anti-cheat code
nov. 09 20:24:51 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 09 20:24:52 <pango>	something like that
nov. 09 20:25:00 <Dougie187>	I never did that though.
nov. 09 20:25:06 <pango>	ok
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nov. 09 20:26:03 <Dougie187>	one of the big problems, is I don't know exactly when I was noted as having hacked
nov. 09 20:26:10 <Dougie187>	so it's almost impossible to determine what my exact setup was then
nov. 09 20:28:17 <pango>	specially hard without Blizzard cooperation
nov. 09 20:28:20 <ptinou>	mais pango t'as un bouncer ?
nov. 09 20:28:37 <pango>	ptinou: ?
nov. 09 20:28:40 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 09 20:28:40 <ptinou>	irc
nov. 09 20:29:00 <pango>	ptinou: peut-être, je ne sais plus s'il est activé...
nov. 09 20:29:12 <pango>	ptinou: des fois je bricole pour essayer de résoudre des problèmes réseau
nov. 09 20:29:18 <ptinou>	nan c'est pas ça
nov. 09 20:29:28 <ptinou>	un bouncer c'est un truc qui fait que t'es H24 sur irc
nov. 09 20:29:44 <pango>	ah non, j'ai juste mon portable qui reste allumé
nov. 09 20:29:55 <ptinou>	ok
nov. 09 20:30:06 <pango>	tu penses dircproxy & co, j'ai déjà utilisé, mais pas en ce moment
nov. 09 20:30:14 <ptinou>	znc
nov. 09 20:30:39 <pango>	ok, non je ne connaissais pas
nov. 09 20:30:56 <ptinou>	je viens de découvrir ça
nov. 09 20:31:39 <pango>	ptinou: I got a question, I'd like to pre-set some Wine setup during installations... Mainly enable virtual desktop at some resolution
nov. 09 20:31:54 <ptinou>	during or before?
nov. 09 20:32:30 <pango>	ptinou: either when creating the prefix, or after installation, both should be ok
nov. 09 20:32:36 <ptinou>	?
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nov. 09 20:32:49 <pango>	ptinou: tried to use PRE_RUNNING but it's not useful in this case
nov. 09 20:32:50 <ptinou>	I don't understand
nov. 09 20:33:20 <ptinou>	I don't understand
nov. 09 20:33:35 <pango>	ptinou: Say, I'd like all programs that I install to have virtual desktop enabled at the end of installation (or at least, by default on first run)
nov. 09 20:34:02 <ptinou>	that's dangerous to add such a feature
nov. 09 20:34:11 <pango>	because when I forget, it either f*cks up my KDE settings, or even my X state
nov. 09 20:34:24 <pango>	and I do forget once in a while
nov. 09 20:34:39 <ptinou>	I see
nov. 09 20:34:47 <ptinou>	the ony problem is that
nov. 09 20:34:51 <ptinou>	if people use it
nov. 09 20:34:57 <ptinou>	they will use it badly
nov. 09 20:35:01 <pango>	yup, I think we already discussed that once
nov. 09 20:35:29 <ptinou>	so we might add this, but not in the doc :p
nov. 09 20:35:33 <pango>	ah :p
nov. 09 20:35:37 <pango>	lol
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nov. 09 20:36:03 <ptinou>	that's just one line code
nov. 09 20:36:09 <pango>	I was wondering about some POST_CREATEPREFIX for example
nov. 09 20:36:18 <ptinou>	yup
nov. 09 20:36:44 <Dougie187>	You guys also don't think the setarch fix could be related to being banned do you?
nov. 09 20:36:47 <pango>	because a hook at the end of installations is probably harder, one can install a program several ways
nov. 09 20:36:57 <Dougie187>	(or lack thereof)
nov. 09 20:37:12 <ptinou>	Dougie187: no
nov. 09 20:37:19 <pango>	Dougie187: I don't know
nov. 09 20:37:21 <ptinou>	because we do not use setarch
nov. 09 20:37:43 <Dougie187>	I didn't either
nov. 09 20:37:48 <pango>	ptinou: could it be missing?
nov. 09 20:37:59 <ptinou>	should not.
nov. 09 20:38:07 <ptinou>	setarch is just a way to ask linux to run something in x86 mode
nov. 09 20:38:16 <pango>	ptinou: like, without it, some anticheat thread crashes, raising some alarm...
nov. 09 20:38:28 <ptinou>	we have a patch for wine
nov. 09 20:38:30 <altobar>	c'est un chan fr ou en ?
nov. 09 20:38:31 <Dougie187>	pango: that's exactly what the bug report is.
nov. 09 20:38:36 <pango>	altobar: les deux
nov. 09 20:38:46 <Dougie187>	ptinou: when did the patch come out?
nov. 09 20:38:49 <pango>	Dougie187: yeah, I think I read that
nov. 09 20:38:56 <ptinou>	Alexandre Juillard wrote it
nov. 09 20:39:12 <Dougie187>	is that vexorian?
nov. 09 20:39:19 <Dougie187>	oh, no probably not
nov. 09 20:39:19 <Dougie187>	nm
nov. 09 20:39:20 <ptinou>	??
nov. 09 20:40:27 <altobar>	ok, bon je vais faire ma question en fr ;) j'ai 2 jeux win2000 qui demandent un redémarrage de l'ordi pour mettre à jour le pilote. y a une technique particulière ou un script connu pour ce genre de trucs ?
nov. 09 20:40:42 <ptinou>	c'est pas geré par wine
nov. 09 20:40:53 <pango>	altobar: quel pilote?
nov. 09 20:41:13 <altobar>	ce n'est pas précisé
nov. 09 20:41:17 <ptinou>	c'est pas géré
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nov. 09 20:42:21 <altobar>	vous devez redémarrer votre ordinateur pour finaliser l'installation du pilote. starforce me dit ça
nov. 09 20:43:02 <ptinou>	ce n'est pas géré
nov. 09 20:43:09 <altobar>	dommage si ce n'est pas géré, ça me fait pareil sur win7 et sous virtualbox avec win2000 j'ai des pb de carte vidéo :)
nov. 09 20:45:29 <pango>	starforce est un DRM, qui comme la plupart ne sont pas supportés sous WIne
nov. 09 20:47:04 <pango>	ce sont des copies légales?
nov. 09 20:47:18 <altobar>	ce ne sont pas des copies, ce sont mes cds d'origine
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nov. 09 20:47:56 <pango>	dans ce cas peut-être avec des patches no-cd, mais on ne peut pas donner d'aide sur ça, c'est contraire à la loi Dadvsi
nov. 09 20:48:46 <altobar>	le premier n'a de patch que pour vista
nov. 09 20:48:52 <altobar>	le 2+ je n'ai pas regardé
nov. 09 20:48:59 <pango>	nous ne discuterons pas davantage de ce sujet ici
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nov. 09 20:49:48 <Dougie187>	are there really 30000 PoL users playing D3?
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nov. 09 20:51:04 <pango>	the script has been used 62k times
nov. 09 20:51:09 <Dougie187>	wow
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nov. 09 20:51:22 <Dougie187>	that's a lot more than I thought there would be
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nov. 09 20:51:58 <pango>	http://www.aplu.fr/polistats/
nov. 09 20:52:44 <Dougie187>	That's insane
nov. 09 20:53:52 <Dougie187>	and 90k for steam
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nov. 09 20:54:52 <pango>	just for this year, and don't forget POL_Install_steam, 117k uses
nov. 09 20:55:05 <pango>	127k even
nov. 09 20:55:09 <Dougie187>	wow
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nov. 09 20:56:07 <ptinou>	(by the way, the release of steam for linux will not help POL :D)
nov. 09 20:56:13 <Dougie187>	lol yeah
nov. 09 20:56:17 <Dougie187>	understandable.
nov. 09 20:56:22 <Dougie187>	It might not hurt it though
nov. 09 20:56:30 <Dougie187>	considering all games in steam won't be available on linux
nov. 09 20:56:41 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 09 20:56:44 <Dougie187>	you guys get in the steam for linux beta?
nov. 09 20:56:48 <ptinou>	nope
nov. 09 20:56:52 <ptinou>	I tried but they didn't
nov. 09 20:56:56 <pango>	I'm not a Steam user
nov. 09 20:56:57 <Dougie187>	I didn't either
nov. 09 20:57:05 <Dougie187>	I downloaded the .deb
nov. 09 20:57:10 <Dougie187>	and supposedly theres a way to "force" in
nov. 09 20:57:14 <Dougie187>	but I haven't done that yet
nov. 09 20:57:18 <Dougie187>	or plan to. :P
nov. 09 20:59:22 <Dougie187>	I would love to play TF2 natively though
nov. 09 21:01:33 <pango>	I hope games will work better natively than thru Wine, but that's not a given: for me Psychonauts works slightly better under Wine, native has some issues with sound
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nov. 09 21:01:50 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 09 21:05:04 <pango>	the best thing I expect from such initiatives is an increase in quality of video and sound drivers under Linux
nov. 09 21:05:10 <pango>	currently quality is very uneven
nov. 09 21:05:24 <Dougie187>	http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/new-nvidia-driver-doubles-performance-on-linux
nov. 09 21:05:25 <Dougie187>	:P
nov. 09 21:06:16 <Dougie187>	Here's a question, regarding the D3 bans
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nov. 09 21:06:32 <Dougie187>	So, there's a patch or whatever for the setarch issue, right?
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nov. 09 21:06:57 *	pango drools
nov. 09 21:07:03 <Dougie187>	Do you guys apply that patch to every version you of wine?
nov. 09 21:07:10 <Dougie187>	or is it just specific versions of wine that get it applied?
nov. 09 21:08:14 <pango>	Dougie187: no, by default we try to use plain Wine versions, if a patch is used it must be mentionned in the version string
nov. 09 21:08:32 <Dougie187>	Ok, so if I was using 1.5.10, it might not have had that patch then
nov. 09 21:08:49 <pango>	nope, otherwise it would have been 1.5.10-DiabloIII or something
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nov. 09 21:09:06 <Dougie187>	ok
nov. 09 21:09:46 <pango>	http://winebuild.playonlinux.com/wine/wine-patches/custom/
nov. 09 21:10:27 <Dougie187>	So, that must be for the 1.5.5Diablo3v3 one
nov. 09 21:10:33 <Dougie187>	or something
nov. 09 21:10:33 <Dougie187>	this one
nov. 09 21:10:34 <Dougie187>	http://winebuild.playonlinux.com/wine/wine-patches/custom/DiabloIII_v4/
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nov. 09 21:11:08 <sonori>	hi guys
nov. 09 21:11:16 <Dougie187>	hey
nov. 09 21:11:19 <Rafbill>	hi
nov. 09 21:11:23 <pango>	Dougie187: I haven't closely followed what has been done with Diablo 3
nov. 09 21:11:28 <Dougie187>	ok
nov. 09 21:12:02 <sonori>	I just send to Tinou proposition of our official stand about the banned Diablo 3 users
nov. 09 21:12:35 <sonori>	I hope, after he revew it, it will be put here for discussion
nov. 09 21:12:51 <Dougie187>	pango: let me know if you try those new drivers
nov. 09 21:12:58 <Dougie187>	sonori: yeah, I'd be interested in reading it
nov. 09 21:13:59 <pango>	Dougie187: they're still in Debian experimental, I'll wait for packages in Sid
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nov. 09 21:14:11 <Dougie187>	You don't manually install them ever?
nov. 09 21:14:34 <pango>	Dougie187: nope, I like it fully automatic... getting old I suppose :D
nov. 09 21:15:05 <pango>	Dougie187: also, I don't have a powerful nVidia card, just some laptop one, so I wonder if that will make any difference
nov. 09 21:15:18 <Dougie187>	I would think it would.
nov. 09 21:15:21 <Dougie187>	hopefully at least. :P
nov. 09 21:15:26 <Dougie187>	I like it automatic too thoug
nov. 09 21:15:28 <Dougie187>	though*
nov. 09 21:16:04 <Aknot>	What are the essential plugins that needs to be installed for any 3d game. I see lot of dx9 plugins do i have to install them all??
nov. 09 21:16:04 <Dougie187>	but unity is pretty slow with the current ones.:P
nov. 09 21:16:24 <pango>	Dougie187: Until I read some technical explanation of how they can get such boost, I'll be skeptical
nov. 09 21:16:29 <pango>	Aknot: you may need none
nov. 09 21:17:36 <Aknot>	But i installed tomb raider anniversary and it didnt install any plugins and the game wouldnt start, then i manually installed some dx9 files and then it launched but the screen went black and i could only hear the menu music
nov. 09 21:17:44 <pango>	Aknot: Wine has some partial implementation of DirectX APIs, when it is sufficient it usually gives better performance than installing "native" DLLs
nov. 09 21:18:17 <Aknot>	oh ok
nov. 09 21:18:18 <pango>	Aknot: but not every game works with this partial implementation, so it's a matter or trial and error
nov. 09 21:18:24 <pango>	of*
nov. 09 21:19:22 <pango>	Aknot: and the different packages are subsets of DirectX for the same reason: often only installing just the DLLs providing the missing APIs can give better results than installing the whole DirectX native DLLs
nov. 09 21:19:26 <Aknot>	I also tried installing stronghold hd gog.com which came out few days ago and it gave some error about some dll when i tried to install it. Should i wait until the game is supported by wine or something??
nov. 09 21:20:14 <pango>	Aknot: depends, maybe installing some native DLLs will allow to run it now
nov. 09 21:20:41 <pango>	Aknot: you can check the AppDB, but the HD release may be significantly different from the old version and not have been tested with Wine already
nov. 09 21:21:57 <pango>	http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1251 looks Platinum, that's strange you got an error
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nov. 09 21:24:52 <Aknot>	Hmm that says patch but im pretty sure its the same thing
nov. 09 21:25:34 <Aknot>	it gives error about gdiplus.dll
nov. 09 21:25:43 <pango>	during installation?
nov. 09 21:25:54 <pango>	that's the new GOG installer, not the game
nov. 09 21:25:59 <Aknot>	it loads the installer then immediately gives that error
nov. 09 21:26:07 <pango>	use Wine 1.5.16 to install
nov. 09 21:26:11 <Aknot>	but i just installed hitman 2 gog version fine
nov. 09 21:26:20 <pango>	or at least, a very recent version, haven't checked the exact version needed
nov. 09 21:26:40 <pango>	their old installer works just fine with any version of Wine
nov. 09 21:26:52 <pango>	sadly that's not the case of the new one
nov. 09 21:26:56 <lenonk>	Hey there, does anybody know if a letter got written to Blizzard about the D3 bans per Quentin's post on the forums on Nov 7?
nov. 09 21:27:24 <sonori>	many of us wrote independently, but to no avail
nov. 09 21:27:58 <Aknot>	How can i choose the wine version when using regular wine, not playonlinux
nov. 09 21:28:01 <sonori>	literally half an hour ago I sent to quentin sketch of our official stand
nov. 09 21:28:42 <lenonk>	Thanks Sonori, I've been reading your posts.  Thanks for the effort you're putting in
nov. 09 21:29:04 <pango>	Aknot: install another version of Wine, and put it into your $PATH :p That's one benefit of POL to easily manage several versions
nov. 09 21:29:46 <Aknot>	sadly stronghold games arent on pol, atleast not on my version
nov. 09 21:30:20 <pango>	Aknot: yeah, I didn't pick that game, so I didn't wrote a script for it either
nov. 09 21:30:40 <pango>	Aknot: but you can try a manual installation
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nov. 09 21:33:36 <lenonk>	sonori: I just don't want to see more people get unfairly banned.  I'm not too interested in getting my account back.
nov. 09 21:33:39 <pango>	Aknot: how I learned about the new installer: http://www.playonlinux.com/en/issue-1490.html
nov. 09 21:35:05 <Aknot>	wut
nov. 09 21:35:51 <pango>	(I'm petch on POL.com by the way)
nov. 09 21:37:07 <pango>	I wonder if they upgraded more installers silently, I don't remember seeing an update notification for Fallout Tactics (then again I could have missed it)
nov. 09 21:38:19 <pango>	woot 1.5.17 is out
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nov. 09 21:44:44 <pango>	bingo, Fallout installer hash changed :/
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nov. 09 22:07:50 <pango>	probably 23 GOG scripts to update :/
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nov. 09 22:40:11 <pa1-pol>	Anyone can help me out with installing non steam single exe games on playonlinux
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nov. 09 23:57:38 <canaima-pol>	hola
nov. 09 23:57:38 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel canaima-pol
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nov. 09 23:57:56 <orogor>	hi
nov. 09 23:58:00 <pango>	hi
nov. 09 23:58:01 <orogor>	anyone around?
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nov. 09 23:58:25 <orogor>	may i ask for help to try to compile wine and feed the patched version to pol ?
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nov. 09 23:58:54 <pango>	just use ./configure --prefix= so that make install puts it in the right place
nov. 09 23:59:05 <Jesus>	yo no hablo inges
nov. 09 23:59:13 <Jesus>	ingles
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nov. 09 23:59:22 <pango>	(namely, $HOME/.PlayOnLinux/wine/linux-{x86,amd64}/wineversion-patchversion)
nov. 10 00:00:53 <Guest37898>	I do not speak English
nov. 10 00:01:06 <pango>	Sorry, this is an english and french channel
nov. 10 00:02:16 <Guest37898>	who speaks Spanish
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nov. 10 00:03:37 <pango>	Bonsoir Aymeric
nov. 10 00:04:12 <aplu>	bonsoir Pierre
nov. 10 00:04:19 <pango>	ça roule?
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nov. 10 00:05:18 <aplu>	ça va
nov. 10 00:05:23 <pango>	:)
nov. 10 00:05:29 <aplu>	et toi?
nov. 10 00:06:04 <pango>	un peu compliqué mais je fais aller ;) Sinon je me bats avec le nouveau installeur de GOG qui n'est pas aussi Wine friendly que la v1 :/
nov. 10 00:06:24 <aplu>	ah :-/
nov. 10 00:06:26 <pango>	et bien entendu ils sont en train de les remplacer un par un...
nov. 10 00:06:43 <pango>	https://github.com/petchema/playonlinux/wiki/GoG-Installer
nov. 10 00:08:02 <pango>	j'essaye de voir s'il y a moyen d'empêcher Wine de mettre le bazard dans la config de mes écrans autrement qu'un utilisant une version 1.5.9+
nov. 10 00:08:08 <pango>	qu'en*
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nov. 10 00:08:38 <pango>	POL_Wine_X11Drv UseXRandR N    n'a pas l'air d'y changer quoi que ce soit
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nov. 10 00:09:32 <pango>	et se serait un peu la loose d'activer un bureau virtuel juste le temps de l'installation
nov. 10 00:09:58 <aplu>	:D
nov. 10 00:11:03 <aplu>	et sinon els installeur de gog ne sont plus contournable comme la v1 ?
nov. 10 00:11:24 <pango>	c'est à dire ?
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nov. 10 00:14:00 <aplu>	ben il me semble que t'avais trouvé une solution pour passer outre le programme d'installation de GoG
nov. 10 00:14:24 <pango>	on peut décompacter l'archive je pense, mais ça ne remplace pas le programme d'installation
nov. 10 00:14:56 <Dougie187>	Hows it going guys?
nov. 10 00:15:18 <pango>	Dougie187: fighting with the new GOG installer that's not as Wine friendly as the v1 :/
nov. 10 00:15:27 <Dougie187>	GOG?
nov. 10 00:15:31 <pango>	GOG.com
nov. 10 00:15:53 <Dougie187>	like a steam thing?
nov. 10 00:16:03 <Dougie187>	just older games?
nov. 10 00:16:04 <aplu>	pango: c'était peut être tinou qui avait ça, je me souviens plus mais ça permettait de plus utiliser l'installeur de la v1 de Gog
nov. 10 00:16:23 <orogor>	c est long la config ?
nov. 10 00:16:35 <pango>	Dougie187: yup similar, but DRM free, among things
nov. 10 00:16:36 <orogor>	 la compile?
nov. 10 00:16:40 <Dougie187>	that's cool
nov. 10 00:17:11 <pango>	orogor: ça dépend de la puissance de la machine, mais ça peut être long, oui
nov. 10 00:17:51 <orogor>	20m ou 2 h?
nov. 10 00:18:17 <pango>	aplu: http://www.playonlinux.com/en/source-1296-POL_GoG_Extract.html ?
nov. 10 00:18:18 <aplu>	orogor: pour ton info, sur un 64 cores il faut une 15zaine de minute pour compiler le noyaux linux
nov. 10 00:18:42 <aplu>	sur un pentium 1ghz il faut 5-7 heures ...
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nov. 10 00:19:12 <aplu>	pango: c'est peut être ça ouai
nov. 10 00:19:25 <pango>	aplu: mais je ne vois que l'extraction, pas l'installation
nov. 10 00:20:40 <aplu>	et une archive gog ne contient pas déjà tout  les fichiers dans les bons dossiers ? Il faut les créer et mettre les fichiers au bon endroit ?
nov. 10 00:20:58 <pango>	Dougie187: yup, but with their v2, that they are currently deploying on all their games it seems, I need at least Wine 1.5.9 or my secondary screen is powered down at the end of installation...
nov. 10 00:21:36 <pango>	Dougie187: and not all the games will run optimally with Wine 1.5.9+
nov. 10 00:22:14 <pango>	aplu: c'est une installation Windows classique, il peut y avoir des modifs de la base de registre, des installations de DLLs, ...
nov. 10 00:22:55 <pango>	aplu: j'ai pas l'intention de reverse engineerer 150 installations
nov. 10 00:23:22 <aplu>	pango: je comprend ;)
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nov. 10 00:24:07 <pango>	aplu: ce qui est curieux c'est que je ne trouve pas moyen de verrouiller ma config d'écran, par exemple
nov. 10 00:24:21 <pango>	aplu: xrandr c'est un vrai moulin :p
nov. 10 00:24:23 <aplu>	xorg.conf /D
nov. 10 00:24:26 <aplu>	:D
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nov. 10 00:28:22 <pango>	j'ai pas vu d'option de verrouillage dans le xorg.conf, en tout cas pas en lisant en diagonale...
nov. 10 00:29:25 <aplu>	peut être "Option      "EnableRandR12" "false" " :-|
nov. 10 00:29:37 <pango>	aplu: peut être... Ou alors je fais l'install avec Wine 1.5.9 mais le jeu peut se lancer avec une autre version ?
nov. 10 00:30:09 <aplu>	enfin bref, c'est pas une bonne idée de faire changer le fichier xorg.conf ^^
nov. 10 00:30:31 <aplu>	sinon aucune idée pour les versions de wine, j'ai pas de jeu gog perso ...
nov. 10 00:31:14 <pango>	il y en a 5 ou 6 en freebee, et ils utilisent le nouveau installeur
nov. 10 00:32:13 <pango>	[    49.598] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2] Setup complete
nov. 10 00:32:13 <pango>	[    49.598] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2]   VDPAU driver: nvidia
nov. 10 00:32:13 <pango>	[    49.598] (--) RandR disabled
nov. 10 00:32:16 <pango>	?
nov. 10 00:32:29 <aplu>	ça devrait désactiver randr
nov. 10 00:32:34 <aplu>	ça donne quoi xrandr ?
nov. 10 00:32:56 <pango>	[    49.598] (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR
nov. 10 00:33:10 <aplu>	:(
nov. 10 00:33:35 <pango>	il affiche les deux écrans avec les modes possibles
nov. 10 00:33:58 <pango>	on dirait qu'il est activé au niveau serveur X mais pas du driver nVidia
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nov. 10 00:34:57 <pango>	pourtant il est censé le supporter depuis la version 302, peut-être pas par défaut?
nov. 10 00:35:24 <aplu>	aucune idée, je sais que la version nvidia qui est dans la lts y a pas xrandr
nov. 10 00:35:31 <aplu>	au niveau du driver
nov. 10 00:35:58 <pango>	La 302 date de Mai apparemment
nov. 10 00:38:46 <aplu>	et y a un changelog ? ils parlent ud xrandr ?
nov. 10 00:39:02 <pango>	http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyMDk
nov. 10 00:39:09 <aplu>	je me souviens avoir lu un truc ocmme quoi nvidia aller enfin supporter le xrandr mais je sais plus si c'est fait ou en cours
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nov. 10 00:39:17 <ptinou>	pango:
nov. 10 00:39:18 <ptinou>	+       $(POL_Config_Read POST_PREFIXCREATE)
nov. 10 00:39:23 <pango>	yup
nov. 10 00:39:23 <ptinou>	c'est moyen tu peux mettre qu'une seule commande
nov. 10 00:39:33 <pango>	ou un script
nov. 10 00:39:52 <pango>	tu voyais ça comment ?
nov. 10 00:40:00 <ptinou>	ben
nov. 10 00:40:05 <ptinou>	un script exécuté dans .configurations
nov. 10 00:40:32 <pango>	ah, un chemin en dur... pourquoi pas
nov. 10 00:41:20 <pango>	je me bats avec le nouvel installeur de GOG, pfff
nov. 10 00:41:27 <pango>	https://github.com/petchema/playonlinux/wiki/GoG-Installer
nov. 10 00:41:46 <ptinou>	???
nov. 10 00:42:37 <pango>	Le problème rencontré avec Fallout Tactics est plus général
nov. 10 00:42:51 <ptinou>	attends
nov. 10 00:42:53 <ptinou>	explique
nov. 10 00:43:00 <ptinou>	ils ont refait TOUT leurs setup ?
nov. 10 00:43:15 <pango>	C'est en cours, dans les scripts que j'ai fais il doit y en avoir 23 à mettre à jour
nov. 10 00:43:25 <ptinou>	oh putin
nov. 10 00:43:29 <pango>	(si j'ai bien compris ce qu'il faut regarder dans la liste des jeux pour trouver la version de l'installeur)
nov. 10 00:43:31 <ptinou>	(garde les anciens md5 en mémoire quand même hein)
nov. 10 00:43:43 <pango>	pour quoi faire ?
nov. 10 00:43:50 <pango>	On ne peut plus télécharger les anciennes versions
nov. 10 00:44:04 <pango>	et pour les installations locales on ne teste pas les MD5
nov. 10 00:44:19 <pango>	mais c'est pas le souci
nov. 10 00:44:52 <pango>	Premièrement, le nouvel installeur crashe immédiatement dans gdiplus.dll si on a pas la version native ou Wine 1.5.9+
nov. 10 00:45:09 <ptinou>	1- pour les avoir
nov. 10 00:45:11 <ptinou>	2- pour les avoir
nov. 10 00:45:16 <ptinou>	3- playonlinux setup.exe
nov. 10 00:45:25 <ptinou>	pour gdiplus, ben ça tombe bien on sait l'installer :)
nov. 10 00:45:47 <pango>	ben je n'ai pas effacé l'ancien MD5 dans le champ hashes du site web
nov. 10 00:46:00 <ptinou>	ouaip
nov. 10 00:46:03 <pango>	oui, on peut éventuellement l'installer, mais ce n'est que le premier problème
nov. 10 00:46:07 <ptinou>	c'est ce que je voulais dire
nov. 10 00:47:00 <pango>	Le deuxième c'est que l'astuce d'associer une appli aux PDFs pour qu'il ne propose pas par défaut d'installer un lecteur de PDFs Windows n'a plus l'air de marcher
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nov. 10 00:47:31 <pango>	La bonne nouvelle c'est que l'installation de ce machin crashe silencieusement parce qu'il cherche MFC42.DLL, donc c'est un moindre mal :D
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nov. 10 00:48:31 <pango>	Le troisième problème c'est qu'à la fin de l'installation, leur installeur essaye de toucher à la config d'écran, et chez moi ça éteind l'écran secondaire et fout le boxon dans ma config
nov. 10 00:48:47 <pango>	à moins d'utiliser Wine 1.5.9+ qui gère XRandr 1.2 et 1.3
nov. 10 00:48:49 <ptinou>	faudrait tester sur une machine normale
nov. 10 00:49:12 <pango>	Donc deuxième raison pour être forcé d'utiliser une version de Wine récente... :/
nov. 10 00:49:29 <ptinou>	ouai bon
nov. 10 00:49:46 <pango>	Je me vois pas trop forcer un bureau virtuel juste pendant l'installation :p
nov. 10 00:50:10 <pango>	ou alors une version de Wine pour l'installation, et une autre pour le jeu ?
nov. 10 00:50:24 <ptinou>	bof
nov. 10 00:50:28 <pango>	héhé
nov. 10 00:50:28 <ptinou>	c'est plus de l'inno ?
nov. 10 00:50:35 <pango>	je suppose que si
nov. 10 00:50:44 <ptinou>	bon ben
nov. 10 00:50:46 <pango>	il me semble que c'est mentionné dans la license
nov. 10 00:50:49 <ptinou>	je pense que c'est le moment de ressortir mon vieux script
nov. 10 00:50:53 <pango>	ou pas
nov. 10 00:50:55 <ptinou>	?
nov. 10 00:51:02 <pango>	le script ne fait que l'extraction, pas l'installation
nov. 10 00:51:08 <ptinou>	et alors ?
nov. 10 00:51:15 <pango>	ben reste à faire l'installation
nov. 10 00:51:19 <ptinou>	ben oui
nov. 10 00:51:22 <ptinou>	mais ça se fait
nov. 10 00:51:28 <pango>	?
nov. 10 00:51:31 <ptinou>	on a tout pour le faire
nov. 10 00:51:51 <pango>	Comme je disais je ne vais pas reverse engineerer 150 installeurs
nov. 10 00:51:57 <ptinou>	non
nov. 10 00:52:01 <ptinou>	il faut le faire dans le cas général
nov. 10 00:52:29 <pango>	ouais, j'ai vu la tête des scripts InnoSetup, le cas général mmmmh
nov. 10 00:52:41 <ptinou>	je pense que si on y arrive
nov. 10 00:52:46 <ptinou>	ce serait tellement parfait
nov. 10 00:53:49 <Dougie187>	that sucks about the GoG stuff pango
nov. 10 00:54:27 <pango>	http://ks369561.kimsufi.com/~petchema/wine/make-install.pl.txt
nov. 10 00:54:31 <pango>	but still...
nov. 10 00:55:01 <ptinou>	pango: y'a un POL_GoG que j'ai codé
nov. 10 00:55:10 <pango>	POL_GoG_Extract
nov. 10 00:55:23 <ptinou>	déjà ça installe les fichiers au bon endroit dans le préfixe je crois
nov. 10 00:55:27 <pango>	but as you see that's 5% of the difficulty
nov. 10 00:55:29 <ptinou>	pour pas mal de jeux, ça suffira
nov. 10 00:55:56 <pango>	I'm not sure that's maintenable
nov. 10 00:56:20 <pango>	and for 150 script, not maintenable means no go
nov. 10 00:57:01 <ptinou>	still more maintenable that a setup that does not work with stable wine versions
nov. 10 00:57:17 <pango>	either way, that means re-test everything
nov. 10 00:57:21 <pango>	:(
nov. 10 00:57:29 <ptinou>	in each case anyway
nov. 10 00:58:08 <pango>	yup, but specially for something as drastic as switching to reverse-engineered deployment
nov. 10 00:58:57 <Dougie187>	Do you guys know why TL2 in Steam doesn't close when you exit it?
nov. 10 01:06:56 <pango>	I think I'll consider the screen switching issue is specific to my box and handle it with the new PrefixCreate hook
nov. 10 01:07:07 <pango>	and fix the script by using native gdiplus.dll
nov. 10 01:07:11 <pango>	scripts*
nov. 10 01:08:00 <pango>	I'll still have to check each script, because this DLL could have side effects
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nov. 10 01:20:03 <orogor>	ok
nov. 10 01:20:14 <orogor>	comment je rajoute ma versiond e wine dans pol ?
nov. 10 01:20:18 <orogor>	la compile st fini
nov. 10 01:20:27 <pango>	make install
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nov. 10 01:20:50 <orogor>	wai mais non
nov. 10 01:21:08 <orogor>	ca ca va me copier dans le prefix , mais je pourrais toujours pas le choisir
nov. 10 01:21:34 <pango>	non, ça le copie dans la liste des versions de Wine installées
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nov. 10 01:21:48 <pango>	ou alors c'est que tu t'es planté dans le chemin après --prefix=
nov. 10 01:22:23 <orogor>	bah j ai pris un répertoir du bureau
nov. 10 01:22:25 <pango>	(namely, $HOME/.PlayOnLinux/wine/linux-{x86,amd64}/wineversion-patchversion)
nov. 10 01:23:38 <orogor>	haa voila
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nov. 10 01:24:16 <ptinou>	!ping
nov. 10 01:24:17 <PlayOnLinux>	pong
nov. 10 01:26:44 <ptinou>	!ping
nov. 10 01:26:45 <PlayOnLinux>	pong
nov. 10 01:27:06 <ptinou>	parfait
nov. 10 01:27:47 <ptinou>	!op
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nov. 10 01:28:35 <earadritz-pom>	Hi Everyone. I'm wondering if there is support given here?
nov. 10 01:28:45 <ptinou>	in general yes
nov. 10 01:28:49 <ptinou>	but it's time to sleep :D
nov. 10 01:29:21 <earadritz-pom>	someone else can help?
nov. 10 01:29:31 <ptinou>	what is your problem?
nov. 10 01:31:02 <earadritz-pom>	try to make work ffxi intalled by steam. All work until the game will display the first game images. I stay stock to the black screen
nov. 10 01:31:21 <ptinou>	try to enable a virtual desktop
nov. 10 01:32:34 <Dougie187>	Virtual desktop helps a ton with steam games
nov. 10 01:32:40 <earadritz-pom>	I tried but still dont work… I don't know if it can help but, I can't find the regedit files that a how to talk about
nov. 10 01:33:29 <pango>	Right click on shortcut > Configure Wine > Graphics tab > Emulate virtual desktop
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nov. 10 01:34:39 <earadritz-pom>	I'll try a second time
nov. 10 01:35:57 <ptinou>	good night
nov. 10 01:36:35 <pango>	n8 Quentin
nov. 10 01:36:41 <earadritz-pom>	good night and thk
nov. 10 01:39:26 <earadritz-pom>	still don't work
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nov. 10 01:55:22 <pango>	testttesttteee&111aq7855DESFSD
nov. 10 01:55:31 <pango>	lol :p
nov. 10 01:57:45 <aplu>	ça va? :P
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nov. 10 02:05:37 <pango>	le focus clavier qui n'était pas sur la même fenêtre que le focus souris... Je me demandais pourquoi je n'arrivais pas à taper :p
nov. 10 02:07:02 <aplu>	^^
nov. 10 02:09:15 <aplu>	bonne nuit pierre
nov. 10 02:12:38 <pango>	bonne nuit Aymeric
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nov. 10 04:16:25 <angel-pol>	hola
nov. 10 04:16:25 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel angel-pol
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nov. 10 04:35:15 <canalinux-pol>	a
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nov. 10 06:54:20 <chocstar-pol>	YO
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nov. 10 07:57:33 <wasiliysoft-pol>	Привет
nov. 10 07:57:34 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel wasiliysoft-pol
nov. 10 07:58:02 <wasiliysoft-pol>	кто нибудь заводил WOT под вайном?
nov. 10 07:58:02 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel wasiliysoft-pol
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nov. 10 08:13:52 <alex-pol>	как им пользоваться то?
nov. 10 08:13:52 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel alex-pol
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nov. 10 10:15:34 <lucas1-pom>	ya quel q'un
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nov. 10 12:07:50 <k1k3cero-pol>	hola
nov. 10 12:07:50 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel k1k3cero-pol
nov. 10 12:08:12 <k1k3cero-pol>	alguien por alli
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nov. 10 14:38:36 <darreljed-pol>	Hi
nov. 10 14:39:02 <darreljed-pol>	Hey
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nov. 10 14:39:39 <kernelpanic-rus>	hi all
nov. 10 14:40:47 <kernelpanic-rus>	русскоязычные есть?
nov. 10 14:40:47 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel kernelpanic-rus
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nov. 10 15:58:38 <PlayOnLinux>	Hi root-pol, it's strongly recommended not to run PlayOnLinux as root or with sudo
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nov. 10 16:42:20 <re-af-pol>	a
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nov. 10 17:02:33 -->	You are now talking on #playonlinux
nov. 10 17:02:33 ---	Topic for #playonlinux is PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac Official IRC | http://www.playonlinux.com/ http://www.playonmac.com/ | Latest version: 4.1.8 | Please speak English or French; We may not answer immediately. | We do not support piracy.
nov. 10 17:02:33 ---	Topic for #playonlinux set by aplu!~APLU@2a02-8420-6992-5900-5115-a87b-6639-6726.rev.sfr.net at Fri Sep 21 20:04:37 2012
nov. 10 17:02:35 -NickServ-	You are already logged in as pango.
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nov. 10 17:29:44 <allyson-pol>	alguem online?
nov. 10 17:30:09 <allyson-pol>	pessoal alguem pode me ajudar? Estou com problemas para instalar WOW no playonLinux
nov. 10 17:30:46 <pango>	!lng allyson-pol 
nov. 10 17:30:46 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english allyson-pol
nov. 10 17:31:38 <allyson-pol>	boa tarde!!
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nov. 10 17:35:40 <allyson-pol>	?
nov. 10 17:35:57 <damian-pol>	hola
nov. 10 17:35:57 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel damian-pol
nov. 10 17:36:19 <damian-pol>	Ok
nov. 10 17:36:25 <damian-pol>	Adios
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nov. 10 17:43:20 <allyson-pol>	hi guys.... I need intall WoW ....Can you halp me?
nov. 10 17:43:43 <allyson-pol>	*help me
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nov. 10 17:49:56 <raul-pol>	hello
nov. 10 17:50:08 <raul-pol>	alguém fala português?
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nov. 10 17:51:21 <allyson-pol>	opa eu falo portugues..
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nov. 10 18:08:35 <nguyenconglong93>	gfhj
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nov. 10 19:00:19 <ptinou>	plop pango
nov. 10 19:00:28 <pango>	salut :)
nov. 10 19:00:55 <ptinou>	c'est quoi le soucis avec dos en fait ?
nov. 10 19:01:26 <ptinou>	shortize se planterait ?
nov. 10 19:01:42 <pango>	le classique quand shortize fait une estimation fausse: le programme ne peut pas démarrer parce qu'il ne trouve pas le répertoire
nov. 10 19:02:05 <ptinou>	je dois partir mais c'est bien
nov. 10 19:02:08 <ptinou>	on va corriger ça
nov. 10 19:02:13 <pango>	ok
nov. 10 19:02:36 <pango>	reste toujours le problème de ~1 ~2 etc, mais ça c'est une autre histoire ;)
nov. 10 19:03:00 <ptinou>	ça c'est quasiment ingérable
nov. 10 19:03:05 <pango>	yep
nov. 10 19:03:20 <pango>	je me garde SimCity 2000 sur l'oreille jusqu'à ce que le support DOSBox soit patché
nov. 10 19:03:31 <ptinou>	?
nov. 10 19:03:33 <ptinou>	ah
nov. 10 19:03:34 <pango>	c'est pas comme si je n'avais pas le choix du script cassé :p
nov. 10 19:03:38 <ptinou>	au pire un mv :D
nov. 10 19:03:56 <pango>	c'est ce que je fais pour certains scripts
nov. 10 19:04:01 <pango>	mais là ça serait pour tous
nov. 10 19:04:23 <pango>	vu que shortize se plante dès le répertoire racine des nouvelles installations
nov. 10 19:05:28 <ptinou>	ouai ok
nov. 10 19:05:41 <ptinou>	je pars dans 5 minute donc ça va être chaud de faire ça la
nov. 10 19:05:50 <pango>	pas de souci
nov. 10 19:07:14 <ptinou>	tchuss
nov. 10 19:07:19 <pango>	a+
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nov. 10 19:25:49 <Dougie187>	Hows it going guys
nov. 10 19:26:11 <pango>	Hi Dougie187, slowly updating GOG scripts ;)
nov. 10 19:26:35 <Dougie187>	Nice
nov. 10 19:26:37 <Dougie187>	sounds like fun
nov. 10 19:26:42 <pango>	:p
nov. 10 19:32:43 <Dougie187>	It sounds like an amazing way to spend your weekend. :P
nov. 10 19:32:48 <Dougie187>	but I guess it's all volunteer work right?
nov. 10 19:32:55 <Dougie187>	ie. something you enjoy
nov. 10 19:33:48 <pango>	well, the original reason was to have the scripts for my own use... But yes, there's also some challenge to make all this work :p
nov. 10 19:34:06 <Dougie187>	heh
nov. 10 19:37:44 <Dougie187>	I'm going to play some more TL2.
nov. 10 19:37:55 <pango>	have fun :)
nov. 10 19:38:15 <Dougie187>	I forget, have you played it yet?
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nov. 10 19:38:42 <pango>	started the first one, but got bored :p
nov. 10 19:38:46 <Dougie187>	heh
nov. 10 19:38:54 <Dougie187>	The story is a bit... confusing
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nov. 10 19:40:26 <Dougie187>	I still don't quite get the story in 2. but I never played 1
nov. 10 19:40:57 <pango>	can't really tell lol
nov. 10 19:41:21 <pango>	that looked like a mission that requires something to be done first, goto 10
nov. 10 19:41:25 <Dougie187>	lol
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nov. 10 21:10:38 <usuario-pol>	Holaa
nov. 10 21:10:38 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel usuario-pol
nov. 10 21:10:52 <usuario-pol>	Soii nuevo y no se como vaa
nov. 10 21:10:55 <usuario-pol>	xD
nov. 10 21:11:15 <usuario-pol>	Hello
nov. 10 21:11:22 <pango>	hi
nov. 10 21:11:26 <usuario-pol>	What your name?
nov. 10 21:11:45 <pango>	Pierre
nov. 10 21:11:50 <usuario-pol>	Am
nov. 10 21:11:52 <usuario-pol>	ok
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nov. 10 21:11:59 <usuario-pol>	My name is Santi
nov. 10 21:12:10 <usuario-pol>	I from spain
nov. 10 21:12:21 <pango>	nice to meet you
nov. 10 21:12:38 <usuario-pol>	nice to meet you Pierre
nov. 10 21:13:28 <usuario-pol>	I speak Spanish and English, English because go to the school
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nov. 10 21:14:07 <usuario-pol>	Byee!!
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nov. 10 21:14:13 <pango>	:p
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nov. 10 21:27:15 <usuario-pol>	Hi
nov. 10 21:27:27 <usuario-pol>	Alguien español?
nov. 10 21:27:28 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel usuario-pol
nov. 10 21:28:01 <usuario-pol>	Hello
nov. 10 21:28:40 <usuario-pol>	:)
nov. 10 21:29:03 <usuario-pol>	:(
nov. 10 21:29:13 <usuario-pol>	:(((((((
nov. 10 21:29:27 <usuario-pol>	Speak plis
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nov. 10 21:29:50 <usuario-santi>	hello
nov. 10 21:30:17 <usuario-santi>	Speak plis
nov. 10 21:30:38 <usuario-santi>	Alguien español?
nov. 10 21:30:38 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel usuario-santi
nov. 10 21:31:01 <usuario-santi>	Hola1
nov. 10 21:31:01 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel usuario-santi
nov. 10 21:31:14 <usuario-santi>	H¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
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nov. 10 21:31:34 <usuario-santi>	Hi
nov. 10 21:32:07 <usuario-santi>	hello
nov. 10 21:32:30 <usuario-santi>	byeeeee
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nov. 10 23:46:44 <zero-pol>	hello/ All app need load by other source?
nov. 10 23:46:46 <ptinou>	re
nov. 10 23:46:59 <pango>	re
nov. 10 23:47:08 <zero-pol>	re =)
nov. 10 23:47:25 <ptinou>	ok
nov. 10 23:47:28 <ptinou>	dosbox 0.6 donc
nov. 10 23:47:41 Zepp_ zero-pol 
nov. 10 23:48:03 <pango>	zero-pol: I'm not absolutely sure what you mean
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nov. 10 23:49:57 <ptinou>	pango: j'apprécis vraiment tes tests unitaires :)
nov. 10 23:50:00 <ptinou>	TinouMacBookPro:shortize tinou$ python test_shortize.py
nov. 10 23:50:03 <zero-pol>	pango: sorry, my english very smal :D
nov. 10 23:50:05 <ptinou>	ok, ras sous mac donc
nov. 10 23:50:29 <zero-pol>	small
nov. 10 23:50:33 <pango>	ptinou: yup, très utile
nov. 10 23:50:36 Zepp_ zero-pol 
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nov. 10 23:54:37 <kelly-pol>	how do i update playonlinux
nov. 10 23:54:44 <pango>	!download
nov. 10 23:54:45 <PlayOnLinux>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
nov. 10 23:55:03 <kelly-pol>	okie dokie thanks
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nov. 11 00:01:58 <ptinou>	pango:  probleme réglé
nov. 11 00:02:10 <pango>	lequel?
nov. 11 00:02:27 <ptinou>	dosbox
nov. 11 00:02:41 <ptinou>	c'est vraiment génial les tests unitaires
nov. 11 00:02:50 <ptinou>	si jamais un jour t'es motivé pour en écrire pour POL
nov. 11 00:03:11 <pango>	héhé le problème c'est que c'est plus dur à faire après-coup :p
nov. 11 00:03:56 <pango>	parce que les styles de programmes ne sont pas tous aussi faciles à tester
nov. 11 00:04:14 <pango>	le fait de commencer par les tests pousse à adopter un style "testable"
nov. 11 00:04:17 <ptinou>	ouaip
nov. 11 00:04:23 <ptinou>	nan mais ouai
nov. 11 00:06:30 <pango>	manque des cas tiens, par exemple s'il n'y a qu'une extension (nom unix "caché")
nov. 11 00:06:47 <pango>	faut regarder ce que DOSBox fait dans ce cas là
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nov. 11 00:09:39 <pango>	".hidden" => "HIDDEN~1"
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nov. 11 00:10:33 <GunartoHartanto->	hi
nov. 11 00:10:38 Gentle GunartoHartanto- 
nov. 11 00:10:41 <pango>	hi GunartoHartanto- 
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nov. 11 00:15:02 <ptinou>	pango:  pas trop trop grave
nov. 11 00:15:31 <pango>	yup, mais bon, ça montre qu'on peut toujours raffiner, et à nouveau ça aide d'avoir des tests unitaires
nov. 11 00:15:51 <ptinou>	oui
nov. 11 00:16:13 <ptinou>	par conter
nov. 11 00:16:14 <pango>	ah tiens j'ai fais boguer l'algo de DOSBox :)
nov. 11 00:16:18 <ptinou>	??
nov. 11 00:16:22 <pango>	"noext." et "noext.." => "NOEXT"
nov. 11 00:16:30 <ptinou>	ah merde
nov. 11 00:16:31 <ptinou>	:D
nov. 11 00:16:33 <ptinou>	si un jour on decide de tenir compte du ~2
nov. 11 00:16:40 <ptinou>	la les tests unitaires on va être hyper emmerdé
nov. 11 00:17:19 <pango>	pour tenir compte de ~1, ~2 etc. il faut un contexte
nov. 11 00:17:42 <pango>	donc ça change la signature de la fonction, ça semble faisable
nov. 11 00:18:12 <ptinou>	oui mais la
nov. 11 00:18:18 <ptinou>	je vois pas comment on peut faire sans recoder le test
nov. 11 00:18:20 <ptinou>	enfin
nov. 11 00:18:23 <pango>	tu reprends tous les tests existants en rajoutant "dans le contexte d'un répertoire vide"
nov. 11 00:18:25 <ptinou>	sans coder presque toute la fonction dans le test
nov. 11 00:18:40 <ptinou>	ah ouao
nov. 11 00:18:59 <pango>	et après tu rajoutes tes tests spécifiques aux ~2 ~3 etc
nov. 11 00:19:44 <pango>	en donnant un contexte ou le ~1 est déjà pris (par exemple)
nov. 11 00:20:05 <ptinou>	ouai
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nov. 11 01:14:30 <singa>	Bonjour.
nov. 11 01:14:47 <pango>	bonsoir singa 
nov. 11 01:16:34 <singa>	Je découvre tout juste ce magnifique programme :-)
nov. 11 01:16:58 <pango>	moi c'était il y a à peu près un an :)
nov. 11 01:17:59 <singa>	Je présume qu'il a beaucoup évolué depuis ?
nov. 11 01:18:10 <ptinou>	pas mal oui
nov. 11 01:18:19 <pango>	pas mal de bonnes choses :)
nov. 11 01:19:49 <singa>	 Peut on ajouter un jeu en dehors du menu d'installation ?
nov. 11 01:20:02 <ptinou>	ajouter ou installer ?
nov. 11 01:20:11 <singa>	Installer
nov. 11 01:20:20 <ptinou>	oui tu as un lien en bas à gauche
nov. 11 01:20:29 <singa>	Je voudrais installer le jeu stronghold kingdoms.
nov. 11 01:20:39 <singa>	Je regarde ca de suite.
nov. 11 01:21:05 <ptinou>	mais
nov. 11 01:21:10 <ptinou>	commence par mettre à jour PlayOnlinux
nov. 11 01:21:18 <ptinou>	tu verras ce qui s'est passé en un an comme ça ...
nov. 11 01:21:30 <singa>	Pas bête. ^
nov. 11 01:21:36 <singa>	^^*
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nov. 11 01:40:28 <SinGa>	Reuh.
nov. 11 01:46:09 <SinGa>	Le jeu que je veut installer ne semble pas fonctionner avec PlayOnLinux :/
nov. 11 01:48:47 <pango>	effectivement http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=11898
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nov. 11 03:08:37 <deepyou>	holaaaaaa
nov. 11 03:08:37 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel deepyou
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nov. 11 03:17:36 <wantomint-pol>	hi
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nov. 11 03:53:13 <magnus-pol>	i have 1 problem on  playonlinux ... if try to connect on league of legend my connection has disconnected and if i close wine and playonlinux my connection come alive what can i do to fix it ???
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nov. 11 05:00:22 <carinnetwork-pol>	hi everyone
nov. 11 05:01:46 <carinnetwork-pol>	windows live msn doesnt work with playonlinux, anyone can help?
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nov. 11 09:03:52 <foofers-pol>	hey, if anyone is there, i have a copy of the original starcraft and i was hoping to run it with play on linux, i only see patches and starcraft 2 though when i search it in the install menu, any suggestions?
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nov. 11 09:25:42 <martin-pol>	hi!
nov. 11 09:25:46 <pango>	hi
nov. 11 09:25:53 <martin-pol>	is someone there?
nov. 11 09:26:02 <martin-pol>	hello pango!
nov. 11 09:26:17 <martin-pol>	i have a question
nov. 11 09:26:21 <pango>	sure
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nov. 11 09:26:46 <martin-pol>	i want to install the game "Natural Selection"
nov. 11 09:27:11 <martin-pol>	but it doesn´t appear in the list
nov. 11 09:27:28 <martin-pol>	what shloud i do?
nov. 11 09:27:42 <pango>	that means there's no install script for it, you can try a manual installation...
nov. 11 09:28:08 <pango>	Install button > Install a non-listed program (bottom left)
nov. 11 09:29:05 <martin-pol>	aah
nov. 11 09:29:08 <martin-pol>	i see
nov. 11 09:29:19 <pango>	this game is not listed on the AppDB, only the v2
nov. 11 09:29:20 <martin-pol>	i´ll try that
nov. 11 09:29:52 <pango>	So there's little info about its requirements
nov. 11 09:30:06 <pango>	http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=22032
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nov. 11 09:31:52 <martin-pol>	fantastic!!
nov. 11 09:32:04 <martin-pol>	thank you a lot pango!
nov. 11 09:32:07 <pango>	np
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nov. 11 09:47:41 <ajay-pol>	hi
nov. 11 09:47:47 <pango>	hi
nov. 11 09:48:08 <ajay-pol>	play-on-linux is cool....
nov. 11 09:48:24 <pango>	yup :)
nov. 11 09:48:43 <ajay-pol>	but it can install trojan horses, viruses in ubuntu.... it doesn't have security features
nov. 11 09:49:00 <ajay-pol>	even wine also \
nov. 11 09:49:20 <pango>	I don't call antiviruses security features, if that's what you're thinking of
nov. 11 09:50:05 <ajay-pol>	even me too.... antiviruses can't provide full security measures.....
nov. 11 09:50:23 <pango>	my advice is to just not install random stuff
nov. 11 09:50:42 <pango>	specially nothing pirated
nov. 11 09:50:49 <ajay-pol>	any operating system should be capable of resisting viruses, that feature is a security feature
nov. 11 09:50:55 <pango>	we don't support piracy anyway
nov. 11 09:51:15 <ajay-pol>	oh okay....
nov. 11 09:51:45 <ajay-pol>	there are certain linux viruses out there.... you know it, right?
nov. 11 09:52:21 <pango>	I've yet to meet one in real life
nov. 11 09:53:20 <ajay-pol>	hmmm.... well....
nov. 11 09:53:41 <pango>	got two boxen hacked over the years, but no virus as far as I can tell
nov. 11 09:54:46 <pango>	(the two times because those were left unmaintained for too long)
nov. 11 09:55:04 <ajay-pol>	oh okay....
nov. 11 09:56:56 <ajay-pol>	for every application, wine will be downloaded, why?
nov. 11 09:58:24 <pango>	because not all program work equally well with all versions of Wine
nov. 11 09:58:41 <pango>	so it's up to the install script to use one version or another
nov. 11 10:02:25 <pango>	you can change what version of Wine is used in each virtual drive at any time, so you can experiment after installation
nov. 11 10:04:12 <ajay-pol>	okay....  all these can irritate the newbies... so Why don't you integrate all versions of wine together and allow play-on-linux to choose appropriate version?
nov. 11 10:04:33 <pango>	?
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nov. 11 10:04:56 <Marmotte>	ajay-pol: you mean downloading all Wine versions at PoL install, instead of download when useful ?
nov. 11 10:05:30 <ajay-pol>	no no.... not like that....
nov. 11 10:05:49 <pango>	ajay-pol: we have around 200 wine versions (counting 32bit versions only) and each one takes around 100MB apiece
nov. 11 10:06:23 <ajay-pol>	oh okay....
nov. 11 10:07:11 <ajay-pol>	but this can be irritating to some novices out there.....
nov. 11 10:07:27 <pango>	I'm sure novices can be irritated by many things
nov. 11 10:07:35 <pango>	what can we do about that?
nov. 11 10:08:59 <pango>	integrate them all together, I still don't get what it would mean technically
nov. 11 10:10:32 <pango>	I'm sure Wine devs do their best so that newer versions support more apps, in real life it's so complicated that they _are_ regressions, and that often some old version gives best performance or stability than anything else
nov. 11 10:11:17 <ajay-pol>	I'm speaking about source-code......
nov. 11 10:11:30 <pango>	what with the source code?
nov. 11 10:11:35 <shmore>	The novice should try managing multiple wine installs manually, POL will seem like a dream app after that. That will fix his easliy annoyed problem.
nov. 11 10:11:56 <ajay-pol>	for different versions of wine, source code will be altered, roght?
nov. 11 10:12:10 <pango>	ajay-pol: I still don't see your point
nov. 11 10:12:56 <pango>	maybe I should give an example
nov. 11 10:13:34 <ajay-pol>	@shmore: I'm not a novice..... I've been using ubuntu and other gnu/linux operating systems for more than 4 years.... and I've trained many people about open source
nov. 11 10:13:38 <ajay-pol>	be polite
nov. 11 10:13:55 <shmore>	I meant no offence
nov. 11 10:13:57 <ajay-pol>	@pango: yeah... give an example
nov. 11 10:14:06 <pango>	I noticed that some directdraw heavy games are slower in Wine 1.5.x because they switched to a brand new graphic engine, that gives better performance for most other programs
nov. 11 10:14:41 <pango>	So they will be no turning back, the new engine is great, but for those games it's better to stick to an older version
nov. 11 10:15:02 <pango>	and there's no way to merge the versions either, the code is totally different
nov. 11 10:15:40 <ajay-pol>	oh okay....
nov. 11 10:16:01 <ajay-pol>	thanks for the knowledge :)
nov. 11 10:17:36 <pango>	what is true is that scripts have to specify a specific version to use, when maybe a range or a set of versions support the game equally well
nov. 11 10:18:41 <pango>	so if we wanted to optimize space, one could imagine some very clever algorithm, each script describing what versions can be used, and then POL finding a minimal set of versions that satisfy all installed programs
nov. 11 10:19:02 <pango>	but that would be complex, and probably brittle
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nov. 11 10:21:24 <ajay-pol>	yeah....
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nov. 11 10:22:08 <pango>	I can think of other schemes to lower the issue, like we could all vote for "known good" Wine versions, and try in priority to use those in scripts
nov. 11 10:22:09 <ajay-pol>	it is really difficult to devise algorithms for optimizing memory space, stacks, heaps
nov. 11 10:23:06 <pango>	another kind of administrative nightmare, but can could soften the issue
nov. 11 10:24:00 <pango>	another root of the issue is that many scripts are unmaintained, so they use outdated Wine versions
nov. 11 10:25:06 <pango>	fewer versions could be used if they could be updated
nov. 11 10:25:38 <pango>	problem is, they cannot be updated without being tested, and not everyone has every game
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nov. 11 10:26:19 <pango>	(I think this is actually a worse problem)
nov. 11 10:26:39 <Marmotte>	I can't imagine testing all games with each new Wine version ^^
nov. 11 10:26:44 <Marmotte>	take too much time :)
nov. 11 10:26:59 <Marmotte>	(even if I had all games)
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nov. 11 10:28:22 <Marmotte>	(the only game I installed with PoL was Diablo 3, and Blizzard banned me...)
nov. 11 10:29:19 <pango>	yup, writing scripts, and then maintaining them takes time
nov. 11 10:29:57 <pango>	Just in the middle of updating (eventually around 150) GOG scripts for their new installer... :p
nov. 11 10:31:58 <pango>	managed to update 5 yesterday
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nov. 11 11:45:01 <Nathan-pom>	test
nov. 11 11:45:06 <Nathan-pom>	lol
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nov. 11 13:09:16 <kris-pol>	hai
nov. 11 13:09:54 <kris-pol>	can i install solid works 2009 or 2010 using playonlinux
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nov. 11 13:21:09 <orogor>	salut
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nov. 11 14:36:09 <clarissejourne-p>	n
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nov. 11 14:36:43 <clarisse>	yop
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nov. 11 15:06:43 <reda-pol>	hey
nov. 11 15:07:07 <reda-pol>	salut
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nov. 11 16:32:35 <ptinou>	!op
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nov. 11 16:34:50 <pango>	Bonjour Quentin
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nov. 11 16:36:40 <ptinou>	plop pierre
nov. 11 16:36:52 <ptinou>	j'ai fais une modif dans POL
nov. 11 16:36:54 <ptinou>	faudrait la tester à l'occaz
nov. 11 16:37:03 <ptinou>	ça concerne les téléchargements
nov. 11 16:37:20 <pango>	c'est quoi la modif ?
nov. 11 16:37:36 <ptinou>	il vérifie qu'il y a de la place sur le disque avant de faire un téléchargement
nov. 11 16:37:50 <pango>	ah oui, j'ai corrigé deux bugs sur ça hier
nov. 11 16:39:14 <pango>	ouais, faudrait tester que ça marche...
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nov. 11 16:39:43 <ptinou>	deux bugs sur ça ?
nov. 11 16:40:03 <pango>	comparaison de nombre d'octets avec un nombre de kilo octets
nov. 11 16:40:08 <pango>	et test inversé
nov. 11 16:40:12 <ptinou>	euh
nov. 11 16:40:18 <ptinou>	c'est lequel qui donne un nombre de kilos ?
nov. 11 16:40:22 <pango>	df
nov. 11 16:41:37 <pango>	err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"winex11.drv": /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0: undefined symbol: _xcb_lock_io
nov. 11 16:41:42 <pango>	http://www.playonlinux.com/fr/issue-1511.html
nov. 11 16:41:54 <ptinou>	ah
nov. 11 16:41:58 <ptinou>	ça vient de la nouvelle dosbox ça
nov. 11 16:42:00 <pango>	(1.4-dos_support_0.5)
nov. 11 16:42:05 <ptinou>	ah ben non
nov. 11 16:42:09 <ptinou>	c'est trop bizarre ça
nov. 11 16:42:14 <ptinou>	bon attends
nov. 11 16:42:18 <ptinou>	chaque probleme a la fois
nov. 11 16:42:22 <pango>	yup
nov. 11 16:42:30 <ptinou>	TinouMacBookPro:~ tinou$ df $HOME
nov. 11 16:42:31 <ptinou>	Filesystem   512-blocks      Used Available Capacity  iused    ifree %iused  Mounted on
nov. 11 16:42:31 <ptinou>	/dev/disk0s2  488555536 276711176 211332360    57% 34652895 26416545   57%   /
nov. 11 16:42:41 <ptinou>	c'est des kilo octets ça ?
nov. 11 16:43:01 <pango>	je pense, df -k renvoit les mêmes valeurs ?
nov. 11 16:43:16 <ptinou>	non
nov. 11 16:43:34 <ptinou>	Filesystem   1024-blocks      Used Available Capacity  iused    ifree %iused  Mounted on
nov. 11 16:43:34 <ptinou>	/dev/disk0s2   244277768 138372652 105649116    57% 34657161 26412279   57%   /
nov. 11 16:44:18 <pango>	wow, d'acc', par défaut il te renvoit des nombres de blocs
nov. 11 16:44:23 <ptinou>	ouai
nov. 11 16:44:29 <ptinou>	donc y'a un truc a corriger la nan ?
nov. 11 16:44:54 <pango>	ben indiquer explicitement quelle unité on veut
nov. 11 16:45:08 <ptinou>	on fait ça comment ?
nov. 11 16:45:27 <pango>	genre df -k pour être sûr d'avoir des chiffres en Ko
nov. 11 16:46:07 <ptinou>	c'est ça
nov. 11 16:46:13 <ptinou>	df -k ça marche sous linux ?
nov. 11 16:46:18 <pango>	yup
nov. 11 16:46:24 <ptinou>	tu corrige ou je corrige ?
nov. 11 16:46:35 <pango>	j'ai pas le code ouvert
nov. 11 16:47:04 <pango>	POL_System_HomeSpaceLeft() ?
nov. 11 16:47:09 <ptinou>	c'est corrigé
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nov. 11 16:55:10 <pango>	Bonjour Aymeric
nov. 11 16:55:39 <ptinou>	pango:  la libxcb est de + en + emmerdante
nov. 11 16:55:47 <pango>	ptinou: by the way, testing space in $HOME may be wrong, depending on mounts want where the download actually happens
nov. 11 16:56:08 <pango>	s/want/and/
nov. 11 16:56:16 <ptinou>	ouai ben ouai
nov. 11 16:56:26 <ptinou>	c'est l'espace de $PWD qu'il faut tester
nov. 11 17:21:29 <pango>	not to mention interesting cases when the download overwrites a (large) existing file :p
nov. 11 17:22:29 <ptinou>	in never happens...
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nov. 11 17:33:48 <Dougie187>	Hows it going guys?
nov. 11 17:34:07 <ptinou>	fine
nov. 11 17:34:13 <Dougie187>	Nice
nov. 11 17:34:16 <Dougie187>	having a good weekend?
nov. 11 17:34:17 <ptinou>	Dougie187: I'm planning to do something for D3
nov. 11 17:34:21 <Dougie187>	Oh yeah?
nov. 11 17:34:26 <ptinou>	I think that it would be a good idea
nov. 11 17:34:28 <ptinou>	to make a script
nov. 11 17:34:33 DarkNekros Dougie187 
nov. 11 17:34:37 <ptinou>	that performs a very huge analysis of user's system
nov. 11 17:34:37 <pango>	hi Dougie187 
nov. 11 17:34:55 <Dougie187>	Not a bad idea.
nov. 11 17:34:57 <Dougie187>	Hows it going pango
nov. 11 17:34:58 <ptinou>	obviously, they have to agree
nov. 11 17:35:07 <Dougie187>	the user has to agree you mean
nov. 11 17:35:07 <ptinou>	but if they agree, we will take a lot of information
nov. 11 17:35:11 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 11 17:35:28 <Dougie187>	and then you hope they get banned, so you can take the information and pin-point what got them banned
nov. 11 17:35:37 <ptinou>	yeah
nov. 11 17:35:47 <ptinou>	I want to see if there is something bad on the system
nov. 11 17:35:52 <ptinou>	that can trigger the ban detection
nov. 11 17:36:07 <pango>	Dougie187: fine too, weekend too short (as usual :D)
nov. 11 17:36:07 <Dougie187>	yeha
nov. 11 17:36:09 <Dougie187>	yeah*
nov. 11 17:36:50 <ptinou>	I don't know what could we get
nov. 11 17:36:55 <ptinou>	ps aux, /var/log
nov. 11 17:37:06 <ptinou>	a find in D3 prefix
nov. 11 17:37:39 <Dougie187>	would syslog show any crashes of warden?
nov. 11 17:37:55 <ptinou>	warden ?
nov. 11 17:38:12 <Dougie187>	warden is their cheat detection software
nov. 11 17:38:20 <ptinou>	do you have your D3.log ?
nov. 11 17:38:28 <Dougie187>	Where is it located?
nov. 11 17:38:32 <ptinou>	in your prefix
nov. 11 17:38:45 <ptinou>	also, send the content of your playonlinux.log in D3 prefix
nov. 11 17:39:29 <Dougie187>	I don't have a D3.log on my system, but lemme get the playonlinux one
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nov. 11 17:42:01 <Dougie187>	ptinou: can I email it to you? pastebin keeps crashing when I post it in
nov. 11 17:42:14 <ptinou>	pastebin is better
nov. 11 17:42:30 <ptinou>	maybe pango knows another pastebin service :p
nov. 11 17:42:38 <Dougie187>	:P
nov. 11 17:42:49 <Dougie187>	let me try to paste it in chunks
nov. 11 17:42:49 <pango>	otherwise Google knows them all :D
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nov. 11 17:43:21 <Dougie187>	lol, this is going to take a while. maybe I'll dropbox it
nov. 11 17:43:22 <Dougie187>	one sec
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nov. 11 17:44:39 <Dougie187>	https://www.dropbox.com/s/lbyb9phxxf9v0h3/playonlinux.log
nov. 11 17:45:04 <Dougie187>	Is the other file actually called D3.log?
nov. 11 17:45:45 <ptinou>	hum not sure
nov. 11 17:45:49 <ptinou>	it is in Diablo III folder
nov. 11 17:46:03 <Dougie187>	ok
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nov. 11 17:46:18 <Dougie187>	D3Debug.txt?
nov. 11 17:46:32 <ptinou>	maybe yes
nov. 11 17:46:39 <Dougie187>	k, I'll post that one too one sec
nov. 11 17:46:53 <ptinou>	"warden" is not found in the log
nov. 11 17:47:05 <ptinou>	have you been banned with this computer?
nov. 11 17:47:17 <Dougie187>	I don't know if it's actually called warden. That's just what they refer to it as from blizzard
nov. 11 17:47:24 <Dougie187>	yes, this is the only computer I've played on
nov. 11 17:47:39 <ptinou>	pango: could it be tee ?
nov. 11 17:47:41 <Dougie187>	https://www.dropbox.com/s/bt4oz8s57onf6rq/D3Debug.txt
nov. 11 17:47:53 <pango>	?
nov. 11 17:48:05 <ptinou>	tee is a third party program
nov. 11 17:48:07 <Dougie187>	There are also the Blizzard Updater Log and Diablo III Installer Log .html files
nov. 11 17:48:08 <ptinou>	that runs Diablo III
nov. 11 17:48:19 <pango>	that's far fetched
nov. 11 17:48:31 <ptinou>	yep.
nov. 11 17:48:38 <Dougie187>	and an App-0.dmp but I don't know what that is
nov. 11 17:48:44 <ptinou>	bash is ...
nov. 11 17:48:52 <ptinou>	read it
nov. 11 17:48:54 <Dougie187>	my D3Debug.txt hasn't been touched since Oct 31
nov. 11 17:48:57 <ptinou>	try to find "warden"
nov. 11 17:49:02 <Dougie187>	And I was banned on Nov 1st
nov. 11 17:49:10 <Dougie187>	lemme see if I have my syslog from Oct 31
nov. 11 17:49:21 <ptinou>	don't need it
nov. 11 17:49:21 <Dougie187>	actually, Oct 31 is the last day I played
nov. 11 17:49:24 <Dougie187>	ok
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nov. 11 17:50:38 <ptinou>	try to see in playonlinux.log if the time has change
nov. 11 17:50:45 <Dougie187>	ok
nov. 11 17:51:08 <Dougie187>	Oct 31
nov. 11 17:51:25 <Dougie187>	The .cfg is Oct 20 though
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nov. 11 17:53:24 <Dougie187>	What's the 4th line in the D3Debug.txt file mean/
nov. 11 17:53:34 <ptinou>	what line it is ?
nov. 11 17:53:47 <ptinou>	send me the output of ps aux also
nov. 11 17:54:01 <Dougie187>	2012.10.31 08:40:42.330323000	Cheats: DISABLED
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nov. 11 17:54:05 <Dougie187>	ok
nov. 11 17:54:11 <Dougie187>	ps aux just as is? or with D3 running?
nov. 11 17:54:20 <ptinou>	just ps aux
nov. 11 17:54:23 <ptinou>	pango:  no crash in wine logs
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nov. 11 17:54:59 <Dougie187>	https://www.dropbox.com/s/4rh05dji687d758/ps_aux.txt
nov. 11 17:55:44 <ptinou>	what programs are running when you use D3 ?
nov. 11 17:56:21 <Dougie187>	Everything thats here + skype, ssh (for work), and wine
nov. 11 17:56:23 <Dougie187>	and play on linux
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nov. 11 17:59:07 <Dougie187>	Any other logs I can send that would be helpful
nov. 11 17:59:08 <Dougie187>	?
nov. 11 17:59:30 <ptinou>	no
nov. 11 17:59:48 <Dougie187>	ok
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nov. 11 18:00:20 <Dougie187>	Do your logs have that Cheats: DISABLED line too?
nov. 11 18:01:18 <ptinou>	I don't have my logs here
nov. 11 18:01:23 <ptinou>	I'm on my macbook
nov. 11 18:01:53 <ptinou>	the problem is that blizzard does not want to give their proof
nov. 11 18:01:56 <ptinou>	because if they do
nov. 11 18:02:05 <ptinou>	anti-anti-cheat systems will be improved
nov. 11 18:02:05 <Dougie187>	Yeah
nov. 11 18:02:49 <Dougie187>	There's this error "FMOD Error during 'FMOD_Channel_SetPosition 2': An invalid seek position was passed to this function. "
nov. 11 18:03:15 <Dougie187>	It happens several times
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nov. 11 18:04:21 <ptinou>	FMOD is just an audio lib
nov. 11 18:04:30 <Dougie187>	ok
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nov. 11 18:05:02 <Dougie187>	I doubt it would help, but do you want my D3Prefs.txt too?
nov. 11 18:05:18 <ptinou>	It won't help
nov. 11 18:05:24 <Dougie187>	I also have my Diablo_3__k
nov. 11 18:05:27 <Dougie187>	k, lol
nov. 11 18:05:28 <Dougie187>	whoops
nov. 11 18:05:39 <ptinou>	i just wanted to see in pol.log if any thread had crashed
nov. 11 18:05:47 <ptinou>	which could be a clue
nov. 11 18:05:52 <Dougie187>	yeah
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nov. 11 18:10:29 <Dougie187>	Here's a question, when you run a program in PoL does a script run before the actual program?
nov. 11 18:11:02 <Dougie187>	If so, something that might be beneficial would be "backing up" those two logs I sent. The D3Debug.txt and the PoL.log.
nov. 11 18:11:18 <Dougie187>	Then you can pinpoint which one you want in time, since you would have all of them
nov. 11 18:11:51 <ptinou>	?
nov. 11 18:12:03 <Dougie187>	Just like syslog.
nov. 11 18:12:21 <ptinou>	I can't backup every log
nov. 11 18:12:26 <ptinou>	80Mo is a small one...
nov. 11 18:12:48 <Dougie187>	yeah, I guess that is pretty big for a log.
nov. 11 18:12:49 <Dougie187>	:/
nov. 11 18:12:52 <Dougie187>	what if you gzip it though
nov. 11 18:13:05 <Dougie187>	then it's 1.5M
nov. 11 18:13:08 <Dougie187>	err 1.4M
nov. 11 18:13:29 <Dougie187>	so, move it to have a timestamp in the name, and then gzip it
nov. 11 18:13:29 <ptinou>	yeah but I can't analyse all of them
nov. 11 18:13:35 <ptinou>	it would be a waste of time
nov. 11 18:13:44 <Dougie187>	No, I don't mean to analyze them all
nov. 11 18:13:46 <ptinou>	and anyway, i'm not skilled enough
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nov. 11 18:14:04 <Dougie187>	I just mean so they are there incase you ever need to see a specific one in time rather than the last one
nov. 11 18:14:25 <Dougie187>	Like, if something that happened on my computer on Oct 28th got me banned, and it doesn't show up in the Oct 31st log.
nov. 11 18:14:58 <home-pol>	hello
nov. 11 18:14:59 <ptinou>	that is really difficult
nov. 11 18:15:01 <ptinou>	hello home-pol
nov. 11 18:15:01 <home-pol>	i have a noobie question: i can't find photoshop in the list of programs. am i using an old version of PoL (4.1.8) or...?
nov. 11 18:16:45 <home-pol>	in the list of install programs (under graphics) i have: blender, fireworks, ms paint, photofiltre and surfer
nov. 11 18:17:29 <pango>	home-pol: CS4 appears if you enable "testing" (beta) scripts
nov. 11 18:17:43 <home-pol>	ok thanks!
nov. 11 18:18:47 <Dougie187>	ptinou: do you know if you can get banned in the starter edition?
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nov. 11 18:20:59 <sonori>	dougie187: there where claims that did happen
nov. 11 18:21:42 <Dougie187>	what?
nov. 11 18:21:42 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 11 18:21:55 <Dougie187>	Oh, people claimed they got banned in the starter edition?
nov. 11 18:22:26 <sonori>	Iyes - I saw such claim while researching for this matter
nov. 11 18:22:46 <Dougie187>	ok
nov. 11 18:23:16 <Dougie187>	I mean, I could always make another account using the starter edition as a test
nov. 11 18:23:19 <Dougie187>	and see if I get banned.
nov. 11 18:23:22 <Dougie187>	if that would be helpful
nov. 11 18:27:18 <sonori>	look at Marmotte's post in the template you provided - accounts apparently were watched for 2 weeks before bans
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nov. 11 18:28:44 <Dougie187>	I don't know that that means they watched his specific account from the 14th - 28th of Oct. It just means they were looking at accounts during that period of time
nov. 11 18:28:58 <Dougie187>	Or, they checked his account between that time period.
nov. 11 18:30:23 <sonori>	I think it is the time of info gathering, then analysis, and conlusions
nov. 11 18:31:17 <Dougie187>	I think I'd have to read how the actual ticket response was written to be able to insinuate anything from it
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nov. 11 19:06:16 <ptinou>	pango:  faut vraiment qu'on règle ce soucis de libxcb la
nov. 11 19:06:35 <pango>	yep
nov. 11 19:07:40 <ptinou>	wine et dosbox gueulent
nov. 11 19:07:44 <ptinou>	dans sonc as
nov. 11 19:08:39 <ptinou>	donc l'ajout de la libxcb fout bien la merde
nov. 11 19:09:18 <ptinou>	oh je sais ...
nov. 11 19:09:27 <ptinou>	pango: c'est bien toi qui m'avait filé les libxcb ?
nov. 11 19:10:53 <pango>	oui
nov. 11 19:10:59 AKnot aplu 
nov. 11 19:11:07 <pango>	tiens, bug avec POL_Download_Getsize
nov. 11 19:11:10 <pango>	POL_Download_GetSize 'http://cms.elderscrolls.com/sites/default/files/tes/extras/Arena106Setup.zip'
nov. 11 19:11:10 <pango>	161
nov. 11 19:11:10 <pango>	9196300
nov. 11 19:11:10 <ptinou>	il manque libxcb-xlib.so
nov. 11 19:11:16 <ptinou>	??
nov. 11 19:11:22 <pango>	(probablement à cause de la redirection 302)
nov. 11 19:12:15 <ptinou>	ben pas grave
nov. 11 19:12:26 <ptinou>	le fichier est plus gros que prévu
nov. 11 19:12:30 <ptinou>	ça empêche pas le téléchargement
nov. 11 19:12:42 <pango>	ben au final ça m'a fait une erreur
nov. 11 19:12:49 <ptinou>	ah bon ?
nov. 11 19:13:46 <pango>	il trouve que le téléchargement a besoin de 1619196300 KB
nov. 11 19:14:10 <pango>	j'ai pas 1.6TB de libre dans mon $HOME, enfin pas encore :D
nov. 11 19:14:10 <ptinou>	ouai
nov. 11 19:14:32 <ptinou>	euh
nov. 11 19:14:41 <ptinou>	leur serveur est moisi ?
nov. 11 19:15:03 <pango>	les redirections sont censé être gérées ?
nov. 11 19:16:25 <ptinou>	ben
nov. 11 19:16:31 <ptinou>	en tout cas il est pas censé dire que le fichier fait 1.6TO
nov. 11 19:16:34 <pango>	161 c'est le Content-Length: de la redirection, 9196300 celui du fichier
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nov. 11 19:16:49 <ptinou>	ah
nov. 11 19:16:54 <ptinou>	euh
nov. 11 19:16:54 <pango>	les deux sont renvoyés sur deux lignes séparées par POL_DOwnload_GetSize
nov. 11 19:17:00 <ptinou>	ok
nov. 11 19:17:05 <ptinou>	donc il faut mettre un tail -n 1
nov. 11 19:17:21 <pango>	je pense aussi
nov. 11 19:17:48 <badger>	i'm trying to run XCOM enemy unknown through steam and playonlinux, but when I launch the game it gets stuck on 'read to launch in approximately 0 seconds' anyone have any ideas how to fix it?
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nov. 11 19:20:30 <pango>	ptinou: I do not understand how Arena works on my box
nov. 11 19:20:59 <pango>	ptinou: given that both Wine, DOSBox and libxcb are supposed to be provided by the package, I would expect the same error
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nov. 11 19:23:02 <ptinou>	yep, but with an older version
nov. 11 19:23:15 <ptinou>	we've replaced libxcb* except xlib one
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nov. 11 19:24:06 <Hawk1117>	Hello
nov. 11 19:24:12 <pango>	hi Hawk1117 
nov. 11 19:24:15 <ptinou>	hi
nov. 11 19:24:30 <Hawk1117>	I had a few questins about PlayOnLinux
nov. 11 19:24:38 <Hawk1117>	questions*
nov. 11 19:24:39 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 11 19:25:06 <pango>	ptinou: xlib one?
nov. 11 19:25:31 <ptinou>	Hawk1117: go ahead
nov. 11 19:25:37 <ptinou>	pango http://pastebin.com/EQF487h2
nov. 11 19:25:44 <Hawk1117>	So if I install POL for a game (like Minecraft) can Windows viruses get into Ubuntu through your program?
nov. 11 19:25:55 <ptinou>	yes and no
nov. 11 19:26:06 <ptinou>	if you do only legal stuff, no
nov. 11 19:26:58 <Hawk1117>	So what it is is as long as I only download Minecraft then the virus on my windows won't be able to get into Ubuntu?
nov. 11 19:27:18 <ptinou>	??
nov. 11 19:27:25 <ptinou>	why would you have viruses ?
nov. 11 19:29:08 <Hawk1117>	Well it's a long story. A friend borrowed it and well now Avast says there is a virus and it can't delete it and that is why I switched to Linux so the virus can't spy on me or whatever it was built to do...
nov. 11 19:29:14 <Hawk1117>	But
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nov. 11 19:30:05 <Hawk1117>	I wanted to be careful with installing something that can run windows stuff cause I don't know if the virus can use your program to get into my Ubuntu
nov. 11 19:30:45 <Hawk1117>	you see :P
nov. 11 19:30:47 <ptinou>	that won't happen.
nov. 11 19:30:54 <Hawk1117>	Ok
nov. 11 19:30:57 <Hawk1117>	 Thanks
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nov. 11 19:31:22 <pango>	sound complicated
nov. 11 19:31:23 <Dougie187>	Any of you guys like magic the gathering?
nov. 11 19:31:41 <ptinou>	??
nov. 11 19:32:31 <Dougie187>	you guys don't have magic the gathering in france?
nov. 11 19:33:49 <pango>	I know the card game by name, but never played it
nov. 11 19:35:06 <Dougie187>	Oh ok
nov. 11 19:35:12 <Dougie187>	I've played it since I was little
nov. 11 19:41:44 <ptinou>	pango: do you see the problem for libxcb ?
nov. 11 19:41:51 <pango>	no
nov. 11 19:42:00 <ptinou>	we must include libxcb-xlib
nov. 11 19:42:03 <ptinou>	we do not do it
nov. 11 19:42:42 <pango>	do you have it?
nov. 11 19:42:47 <ptinou>	nope
nov. 11 19:42:53 <ptinou>	you provided the other ones
nov. 11 19:43:32 <pango>	I have nothing with libxcb-xlib in its name on my disks
nov. 11 19:43:44 <ptinou>	??
nov. 11 19:44:06 <pango>	~/src/xcb$ find . -iname '*xlib*'
nov. 11 19:44:06 <pango>	nada
nov. 11 19:44:53 <pango>	I compiled xcb-proto-1.8 and libxcb-1.9, do I still miss something?
nov. 11 19:45:00 <ptinou>	err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"winex11.drv": /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0: undefined symbol: _xcb_lock_io
nov. 11 19:45:06 <ptinou>	in the bug report
nov. 11 19:46:06 <ptinou>	winebuild@ks383805:~/wine-libs/linux-x86$ nm libxcb.so|grep lock
nov. 11 19:46:06 <ptinou>	0000c125 t _xcb_in_read_block
nov. 11 19:46:06 <ptinou>	00024318 b global_lock.7689
nov. 11 19:46:06 <ptinou>	         U pthread_mutex_lock@@GLIBC_2.0
nov. 11 19:46:06 <ptinou>	         U pthread_mutex_unlock@@GLIBC_2.0
nov. 11 19:46:06 <ptinou>	0000b224 t read_block
nov. 11 19:46:10 <ptinou>	I think I understand now
nov. 11 19:46:28 <ptinou>	I talk too fast
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nov. 11 19:49:55 <ptinou>	we must find a lib containing _xcb_lock_io symbol
nov. 11 19:51:33 <pango>	~/src/xcb$ rgrep xcb_lock_io . 
nov. 11 19:51:33 <pango>	./libxcb-1.9/NEWS:* Inline _xcb_lock_io, _xcb_unlock_io, and _xcb_wait_io.
nov. 11 19:51:47 <pango>	that's all I get
nov. 11 19:52:34 <ptinou>	we did we include libxcb.so.1.1.0   ?!
nov. 11 19:52:42 <ptinou>	and not 1.9
nov. 11 19:55:10 <pango>	it seems the two don't match
nov. 11 19:55:23 <ptinou>	??
nov. 11 19:55:30 <pango>	compiling 1.9 generated libxcb.so.1.1.0 indeed
nov. 11 19:56:28 <ptinou>	I wonder if libxcb == libxcb-xlib
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nov. 11 20:00:51 <pango>	http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xcb/2009-April/004489.html
nov. 11 20:01:54 <ptinou>	that's a big problem.
nov. 11 20:02:16 <ptinou>	x11 < 1.2 are broken with POL
nov. 11 20:02:58 <pango>	we're missing some lib, an (older) system lib is used instead, and everything blows up
nov. 11 20:03:09 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 11 20:03:13 <ptinou>	but we can't include X11. ..
nov. 11 20:05:01 <pango>	I don't know what we're supposed to do at that point... :
nov. 11 20:05:02 <pango>	:s
nov. 11 20:05:39 <ptinou>	install xorg 1.1 on a virtual machine maybe ....
nov. 11 20:05:41 <ptinou>	and try to fix the problem
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nov. 11 20:21:42 <pgb-pol>	hi.
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nov. 11 20:40:09 <pgb-pol>	hi.
nov. 11 20:40:23 <pango>	hi
nov. 11 20:40:35 <pgb-pol>	I like install Aion in My debian, ...how I make it?
nov. 11 20:41:19 <pango>	There's an installer for it, but I'm not sure it's up-to-date... have you checked the forums?
nov. 11 20:41:33 <pango>	I think I saw something about this game recently
nov. 11 20:41:46 <pgb-pol>	a moment...
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nov. 11 20:42:11 <pgb-pol>	I read wine documentation abaut Aion...but I don't undestant...
nov. 11 20:42:22 <pgb-pol>	How I configure...
nov. 11 20:42:48 <pgb-pol>	I need create a prefix...
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nov. 11 20:43:41 <pango>	mmmh most recent messages about it are in the french forum actually :p
nov. 11 20:44:14 <pango>	http://www.playonlinux.com/fr/topic-9394-Installer_manuellement_AION_a_laide_de_POL.html
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nov. 11 20:47:35 <pango>	but first you can give the install script a try: Install button > check "Testing" checkbox > search for "Aion"
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nov. 11 20:49:14 <pgb-pol>	uhmmm...I undestand...tks bow! ;)
nov. 11 20:49:19 <pango>	np
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nov. 11 21:02:19 <rohit-pol>	hii
nov. 11 21:02:29 <ptinou>	hi
nov. 11 21:02:53 <rohit-pol>	can office 2013 run on playonlinux ?
nov. 11 21:03:16 <ptinou>	nope
nov. 11 21:03:17 <rohit-pol>	anyone ever tried this?
nov. 11 21:03:31 <ptinou>	nope
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nov. 11 21:21:50 <hafsa-pom>	Is it posibly to install following programs: Mathcad, Chemsceth and wordmat
nov. 11 21:22:02 <ptinou>	I don't know
nov. 11 21:22:04 <ptinou>	but hello.
nov. 11 21:22:34 <hafsa-pom>	hello :) what is this?
nov. 11 21:22:39 <ptinou>	?
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nov. 11 21:22:44 <ptinou>	what is this what ?
nov. 11 21:23:03 <gonzalo-pol>	Che alguien habla español por ac{a
nov. 11 21:23:04 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel gonzalo-pol
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nov. 11 21:23:31 <gonzalo-pol>	que forros que sos ¡Disciminacion?
nov. 11 21:23:45 <ptinou>	!k gonzalo-pol
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nov. 11 21:23:49 <Gaddenar>	Must say that I am surprised and delighted that you guys have managed support for the GOG version of some awesome games
nov. 11 21:24:00 <ptinou>	You can thank pango :)
nov. 11 21:24:03 <pango>	Gaddenar: thanks :)
nov. 11 21:24:16 <Gaddenar>	No no, thank you sir
nov. 11 21:24:36 <hafsa-pom>	excuse me can I ask what this is all about ?
nov. 11 21:24:41 <pango>	and thanks GOG ;)
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nov. 11 21:25:13 <hafsa-pom>	my brother installed this, i was juat checkin' it out ?
nov. 11 21:25:20 <hafsa-pom>	*just
nov. 11 21:25:38 <pango>	hafsa-pom: you mean, what is PlayOnLinux/PlayOnMac all about.
nov. 11 21:25:40 <pango>	?
nov. 11 21:25:54 <hafsa-pom>	yes ?
nov. 11 21:26:19 <hafsa-pom>	I'm sorry it's a stupid question but I'm confused ? :s
nov. 11 21:26:27 <pango>	hafsa-pom: it's a frontend to Wine, to ease the installation of Windows games and apps on Linux and Mac
nov. 11 21:26:32 <pango>	hafsa-pom: (and then some)
nov. 11 21:27:05 <hafsa-pom>	aight aight, thaaanks :)
nov. 11 21:27:22 <pango>	np
nov. 11 21:30:26 <ptinou>	pango: we must find a solution for libxcb
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nov. 11 21:48:16 <pango>	can/does any Wine use both libx11 and libxcb?
nov. 11 21:48:40 <pango>	would it fix the problem to only bundle libxcb libraries with the Wine versions that use it?
nov. 11 21:49:59 <ptinou>	it is alreay the case (except dosbox)
nov. 11 21:50:02 <ptinou>	but no, it does not fix the pb
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nov. 11 22:00:11 <cisneros-pol>	hola
nov. 11 22:00:11 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel cisneros-pol
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nov. 11 22:24:33 <pango>	ptinou: do you think they use a libx11 < 1.2 on SLED?
nov. 11 22:24:45 <ptinou>	SLED ?
nov. 11 22:25:21 <pango>	SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop
nov. 11 22:25:36 <pango>	what was used for bug report #1511
nov. 11 22:26:45 <pango>	xcb-xlib has been removed in March 2008, I can't believe they're still using this along with a 3.0.42 kernel, something's fishy
nov. 11 22:26:46 <ptinou>	I think yes
nov. 11 22:27:18 <pango>	yuck
nov. 11 22:28:14 <Dougie187>	what's libxcb for?
nov. 11 22:29:02 <pango>	replace libx11 with an asynchronous API
nov. 11 22:29:11 <Dougie187>	ah
nov. 11 22:30:18 <pango>	that's my line :p
nov. 11 22:32:43 <Dougie187>	lol
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nov. 11 22:50:15 <Dougie187>	I've sent 3 tickets to blizzard today about my ban
nov. 11 22:50:16 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 11 22:50:37 <Dougie187>	I have 18 total so far
nov. 11 22:50:42 <ptinou>	:S
nov. 11 22:51:28 <Dougie187>	they haven't responded to my tickets every. Their responses are always completely ignoring anything I write
nov. 11 22:51:37 <Dougie187>	so I wrote up a generic ticket, and said I would send it until someone responded to it
nov. 11 22:52:44 <Dougie187>	but I think tomorrow I'm going to write a negotiation letter
nov. 11 22:52:54 <Dougie187>	based on section 16, a
nov. 11 22:52:54 <Dougie187>	http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/d3_eula.html
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nov. 12 00:07:52 <tim-pol>	Hi all.  I'm trying to install Civ V GOTY 1.0.1.675; but the installer is stick as a title bar with no body and doesn't want to resize/maximise.  Any ideas?
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nov. 12 00:32:52 <Dougie187>	lol, I'm up to 21 now
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nov. 12 00:58:31 <rad12345-pol>	hey
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nov. 12 01:21:51 <ubuntu-pol>	hi
nov. 12 01:22:06 <pango>	hi ubuntu-pol 
nov. 12 01:22:36 <ubuntu-pol>	I have some pb with POL
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nov. 12 01:23:12 <ubuntu-pol>	i just download the 4.0.14 version and i saw that there is a 4.0.8 version
nov. 12 01:23:21 <pango>	you mean 4.1.8
nov. 12 01:23:27 <ubuntu-pol>	yeah
nov. 12 01:23:35 <ubuntu-pol>	i can update it
nov. 12 01:23:58 <pango>	!download
nov. 12 01:23:59 <PlayOnLinux>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
nov. 12 01:25:20 <ubuntu-pol>	ok thanks
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nov. 12 02:00:20 <unaffilated-pol>	Hey! I can not get Eve Online to run. Gets an error on missing d3dx9_42.dll, but I cant find it in POL install packages. Any ideas_
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nov. 12 02:03:59 <unaffilated-pol>	OS:Gentoo
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nov. 12 04:35:41 <maro-pol>	Hi there! I want to install some unsupported games that require DirectX (using PlayOnLinux 4.1.8), but I can't find how to install it, any help for a POL n00b?
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nov. 12 04:38:54 <maro-pol>	(Sorry, wifi problem, if anybody ansered please cut-and-paste :)
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nov. 12 04:39:57 <SinGa>	Bonsoir.
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nov. 12 06:46:53 <alpha-pol>	hi
nov. 12 06:47:00 <alpha-pol>	anyone there at all?
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nov. 12 10:33:30 <sudhir-pol>	hi
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nov. 12 11:14:15 <hank-pol>	hi
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nov. 12 11:55:23 <gre>	hello people
nov. 12 11:55:39 <gre>	just installing playonlinux on my opensuse 11.4
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nov. 12 13:53:24 <percherie-pol>	Bonjour, j'ai réussi à installer Picasa 3.9 avec Wine mais avec PlayOnLinux il y a des plantages
nov. 12 13:53:43 <percherie-pol>	Qu'est ce que je rechercher comme informations pour résoudre ce problème ?
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nov. 12 16:24:49 <Dougie187>	Hows it going guys?
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nov. 12 17:43:15 <irth>	hi
nov. 12 17:43:31 <ptinou>	hi
nov. 12 17:43:35 <irth>	i have problem (sry for my english, im from poland)
nov. 12 17:43:57 <irth>	err:d3d:InitAdapters Can't load opengl32.dll!
nov. 12 17:44:02 <irth>	game:portal2
nov. 12 17:44:17 <irth>	i have ATI drivers
nov. 12 17:44:21 <ptinou>	install your 32 bits drivers
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nov. 12 17:44:39 <irth>	i have these
nov. 12 17:44:53 <ptinou>	nope
nov. 12 17:45:02 <ptinou>	playonlinux tells you at startup that you do not have
nov. 12 17:45:37 <irth>	yup but i have it installed. install it again?
nov. 12 17:45:45 <ptinou>	there are not well installed
nov. 12 17:46:45 <irth>	ok.
nov. 12 17:46:49 <irth>	brb
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nov. 12 18:20:54 <mohammed-pol>	hello
nov. 12 18:21:08 <ptinou>	hello
nov. 12 18:21:17 <mohammed-pol>	if i can run internet downlod mangar
nov. 12 18:21:32 <ptinou>	good
nov. 12 18:21:41 <mohammed-pol>	in playonlinux
nov. 12 18:21:44 <mohammed-pol>	?
nov. 12 18:21:47 <ptinou>	look at wine appdb
nov. 12 18:25:16 <mohammed-pol>	thanks
nov. 12 18:25:52 <mohammed-pol>	how update playonlinux?
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nov. 12 18:32:22 <Dougie187>	ptinou: I'm up to 27 tickets now. :P
nov. 12 18:35:51 <ptinou>	and ?
nov. 12 18:36:15 <Dougie187>	still nothing
nov. 12 18:36:24 <Dougie187>	but their responses are trying to get me to stop sending them now
nov. 12 18:36:30 <ptinou>	?
nov. 12 18:36:53 <Dougie187>	they have started saying this more and more
nov. 12 18:36:59 <ptinou>	?
nov. 12 18:37:04 <Dougie187>	"This issue has already been reviewed and upheld after multiple investigations. We will not be reopening this account based on these actions and will not discuss the details further."
nov. 12 18:37:16 <Dougie187>	Where they use to say this
nov. 12 18:37:19 <Dougie187>	"This penalty has already been upheld."
nov. 12 18:38:06 <ptinou>	do they answer everytime ?
nov. 12 18:38:51 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 12 18:38:56 <Dougie187>	they always respond with that second line
nov. 12 18:39:02 <Dougie187>	except for a few that say the first one
nov. 12 18:39:24 <ptinou>	then, don't give up :p
nov. 12 18:40:25 <Dougie187>	lol yeah
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nov. 12 18:42:18 <Dougie187>	I think they tried to review my account again today
nov. 12 18:42:35 <ptinou>	?
nov. 12 18:43:20 <ptinou>	menace them to go to court :p
nov. 12 18:43:24 <Dougie187>	lol yeah
nov. 12 18:43:51 <ptinou>	maybe they will take care with a bit more attention
nov. 12 18:44:08 <ptinou>	something like "If you are so sure, maybe we could ..."
nov. 12 18:44:40 <Dougie187>	thats what I hope they say eventually
nov. 12 18:44:56 <ptinou>	that's YOU could say
nov. 12 18:45:09 <ptinou>	if you are so sure, then you see no problem to take this affair to the court
nov. 12 18:45:11 <ptinou>	I don't know
nov. 12 18:45:19 <ptinou>	If you are courageous :D
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nov. 12 18:49:49 <Dougie187>	lol yeah
nov. 12 18:50:36 <Dougie187>	we'll see.
nov. 12 18:50:44 <Dougie187>	I'm writing a negotiation letter to their legal dept
nov. 12 18:56:31 <murray>	have you asked blizzard what kind of third party software you supposedly used? or  do you get only standard answers?
nov. 12 18:58:05 <ptinou>	they can't answer that
nov. 12 18:58:09 <ptinou>	and that's not surprising
nov. 12 18:59:18 <Dougie187>	They won't tell you
nov. 12 18:59:24 <Dougie187>	just standard answers
nov. 12 19:08:40 <murray>	mh... are only ubuntu users banned? Oo
nov. 12 19:10:29 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 12 19:10:38 <murray>	thats interessting
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nov. 12 19:11:02 <pango>	good evening
nov. 12 19:11:12 <ptinou>	yop pango
nov. 12 19:11:18 <murray>	i played some months under arch linux.. and are not banned yet.. but i am afraid, that i get banned too ;)
nov. 12 19:12:38 <Dougie187>	I've played several months under ubuntu
nov. 12 19:12:44 <Dougie187>	so, I would recommend not playing under linux if you can avoidit
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nov. 12 19:13:48 <murray>	maybe a software update in ubuntu based distribution caused this problem
nov. 12 19:13:59 <Dougie187>	maybe. ionno though
nov. 12 19:20:00 <murray>	hm.. otherwise most of the linux gamers are using ubuntu
nov. 12 19:20:17 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 12 19:20:25 <Dougie187>	It's probably just a random sample of people banned
nov. 12 19:20:31 <Dougie187>	I doubt they looked at everyones account
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nov. 12 19:47:25 <cristian25-pom>	hola
nov. 12 19:47:25 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel cristian25-pom
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nov. 12 20:02:40 <jcmesar-pol>	Hola
nov. 12 20:02:40 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel jcmesar-pol
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nov. 12 20:34:18 <AKnot>	a
nov. 12 20:34:47 <ptinou>	b
nov. 12 20:41:10 <Dougie187>	c
nov. 12 20:47:06 <pango>	42
nov. 12 20:47:38 <Dougie187>	lol
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nov. 12 20:57:28 <xael-pol>	Hello everyone
nov. 12 20:57:50 <Dougie187>	Hello
nov. 12 20:58:08 <xael-pol>	Any fellow lol lovers?
nov. 12 20:58:18 <Dougie187>	never played it, but I do like DOTA
nov. 12 20:58:23 <Dougie187>	and i played HoN for a while
nov. 12 20:58:29 <xael-pol>	ah cool
nov. 12 20:58:50 <xael-pol>	HoN lags for me for some reason, assassins creed revelations doesnt which makes hon weird for me :)
nov. 12 20:59:05 <Dougie187>	lol that's a weird comparison. :P
nov. 12 20:59:17 <xael-pol>	yeah, considering the graphics on ACR :D
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nov. 12 20:59:43 <Dougie187>	Have you played DOTA2?
nov. 12 20:59:45 <malevolent-pol>	hi there!
nov. 12 20:59:46 <xael-pol>	I was hoping someone could help me setting up lol in fedora :))
nov. 12 20:59:55 <xael-pol>	yes
nov. 12 21:00:05 <Dougie187>	How is it?
nov. 12 21:00:14 <xael-pol>	ugh it's just another dota based game tbh :D
nov. 12 21:00:22 <Dougie187>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/topic-9388.html
nov. 12 21:00:22 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 12 21:00:23 <malevolent-pol>	anyone has tried Syberia from GoG at full screen?
nov. 12 21:00:30 <Dougie187>	but it's made by Ice Frog!!!
nov. 12 21:00:44 <malevolent-pol>	I cannot get it work, I'm suffering black screen issue
nov. 12 21:00:48 <malevolent-pol>	:/
nov. 12 21:00:52 <xael-pol>	:o
nov. 12 21:00:55 <Dougie187>	:/ I haven't used GoG at all
nov. 12 21:00:58 <xael-pol>	Well would be nice if I had ubuntu
nov. 12 21:01:08 <xael-pol>	I'm on fedora 17 currently
nov. 12 21:01:15 <Dougie187>	xael-pol: can't you do the PoL testing stuff?
nov. 12 21:01:15 <malevolent-pol>	what a pity...
nov. 12 21:01:42 <xael-pol>	Dougie187: I'm not even sure what that means, quite new to this area :)
nov. 12 21:02:08 <xael-pol>	So have mercy on the newbie :)
nov. 12 21:02:14 <Dougie187>	:p
nov. 12 21:02:17 <Dougie187>	well when you open PoL
nov. 12 21:02:20 <Dougie187>	click install
nov. 12 21:02:24 <Dougie187>	and then check the testing box
nov. 12 21:02:33 <Dougie187>	just to the right of the search box
nov. 12 21:02:45 <xael-pol>	oh no, I successfully installed it, problem is I get this error when I attempt to run
nov. 12 21:03:02 <Dougie187>	oh
nov. 12 21:03:23 <Dougie187>	they should make a linux client, like HoN. :P
nov. 12 21:03:35 <xael-pol>	To be honest
nov. 12 21:03:46 <xael-pol>	I would love it if all games were on linux and every other important software
nov. 12 21:04:03 <Dougie187>	heh me too
nov. 12 21:04:09 <xael-pol>	Hell, it's a lot more stable and speedier than windows.
nov. 12 21:04:13 <Dougie187>	I doubt it's going to happen any time soon though
nov. 12 21:04:40 <xael-pol>	I heard some chinese ppl were trying to merge the windows kernel with linux... I think they were trying to make a hybrid 1 year ago
nov. 12 21:04:54 <Dougie187>	weird
nov. 12 21:04:54 <xael-pol>	No news since
nov. 12 21:05:01 <xael-pol>	Would be interesting though
nov. 12 21:05:03 <malevolent-pol>	well, perhapsDougie187 you know how to call taskmgr.exe _before_ the game launches...
nov. 12 21:05:27 <malevolent-pol>	on wine appdb people say that it can be helpful: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19734
nov. 12 21:05:43 <malevolent-pol>	but I don't know how to run it once the game is launched
nov. 12 21:06:04 <xael-pol>	Wow, I'm definitively not sending this error here, it seems to be an irc client which would most likely lag the server
nov. 12 21:07:00 <Dougie187>	malevolent-pol: did you do this stuff? http://www.gog.com/en/forum/syberia_series/linux_playability
nov. 12 21:07:07 <xael-pol>	http://pastebin.com/ZFjiazz7
nov. 12 21:07:19 <xael-pol>	maybe you have an idea of what I should attempt?
nov. 12 21:07:57 <Dougie187>	xael-pol: did you go through all the things on the appdb page?
nov. 12 21:08:00 <Dougie187>	http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141
nov. 12 21:08:16 <malevolent-pol>	I saw it, but as it is wine (not PoL) relative, I didn't tried yet
nov. 12 21:08:25 <pango>	malevolent-pol: Configure button > (select virtual drive) > Wine tab > Task manager button ?
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nov. 12 21:08:48 <pango>	malevolent-pol: but that's what is supposed to be automated, so if it doesn't work it'll prove that something else is broken
nov. 12 21:08:59 <xael-pol>	I looked there, my problem is I cant find "Lol crashes on startup" anywhere.
nov. 12 21:09:10 <xael-pol>	or at least some error that looks like mine
nov. 12 21:09:13 <malevolent-pol>	pango: it's a long time "bug" on that game
nov. 12 21:09:58 <malevolent-pol>	It seems there are two solutions: or install a no-cd crack, or use task manager to "Switch to..." the game and both are supposed to work
nov. 12 21:10:03 <pango>	malevolent-pol: sure, but I install a tool to automate window switching and it works for me
nov. 12 21:10:20 <pango>	(nircmd.exe)
nov. 12 21:10:24 <malevolent-pol>	I tried the no-cd workaround and it does not work
nov. 12 21:10:33 <malevolent-pol>	oh, I hear about that application
nov. 12 21:10:50 <pango>	the no-cd I found came zipped with a trojan, so I don't recommend using it
nov. 12 21:10:53 <malevolent-pol>	how can I install inside the game bottle?
nov. 12 21:11:10 <pango>	malevolent-pol: if you used the POL script, it's already done
nov. 12 21:11:24 <pango>	malevolent-pol: I wrote that script
nov. 12 21:11:41 <malevolent-pol>	I used the PoL script to install Syberua
nov. 12 21:11:43 <malevolent-pol>	Syberia*
nov. 12 21:11:49 <pango>	yup
nov. 12 21:12:20 <pango>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/source-1172-GOGcom__Syberia.html
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nov. 12 21:12:38 <malevolent-pol>	mmm, ok, I'm seeing right now it seems installed inside the Syberia bottle
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nov. 12 21:12:57 <malevolent-pol>	How does it works?
nov. 12 21:13:42 <pango>	in the shortcut it launches in background a process that waits 10s then iconifies and restores the game window
nov. 12 21:13:53 <corey-pol>	Anyone know how to install league of legends if i allready have the game files????????
nov. 12 21:13:54 <pango>	POL_Shortcut_InsertBeforeWine "$SHORTCUT_NAME" '(sleep 10; "P"OL_Wine nircmd.exe win hide title Syberia; sleep 0.1; "P"OL_Wine nircmd.exe win hideshow title Syberia)&'
nov. 12 21:14:04 <malevolent-pol>	oh, perhaps I'd installed Syberia throught the installer, not your script...  :P
nov. 12 21:14:08 <pango>	corey-pol: that's not supported
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nov. 12 21:14:25 <pango>	malevolent-pol: the installer?
nov. 12 21:14:37 <corey-Linux>	can i install it witout the files
nov. 12 21:14:42 <corey-Linux>	without*
nov. 12 21:14:59 <malevolent-pol>	ok, ok, your script work to run the game, not to install it
nov. 12 21:15:07 <malevolent-pol>	now I see it :)
nov. 12 21:15:12 <malevolent-pol>	I'm gonna try
nov. 12 21:15:13 <pango>	corey-Linux: Install button > check "Testing" checkbox > Search for "Leag..."
nov. 12 21:16:11 <corey-Linux>	Ok thanks will try after its refreshed the all the things i can install
nov. 12 21:17:00 <pango>	malevolent-pol: I don't understand what you want to do, you used my script, it's the official script to install GOG.com - Syberia
nov. 12 21:17:42 <pango>	malevolent-pol: your shortcut should already contain the above extra statement
nov. 12 21:17:56 <malevolent-pol>	I was confused, sorry, I thought I will be a script to laung the game...
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nov. 12 21:18:09 <malevolent-pol>	well, then it does not work for me
nov. 12 21:18:50 <malevolent-pol>	I think that nircmd does not launch
nov. 12 21:19:14 <pango>	malevolent-pol: you can try launching the game, switching to POL Configure Wine and launch the task manager
nov. 12 21:19:45 <pango>	malevolent-pol: or switch to POL, open a console into this virtual drive and try to nircmd commands by hand
nov. 12 21:20:31 <malevolent-pol>	I can't... that is the very first thin I tried... perhaps is I'm using gnome 3 and I cannot switch to nothing but a tty and kill the game
nov. 12 21:20:59 <pango>	also try with Wine virtual desktop enabled
nov. 12 21:21:15 <malevolent-pol>	with the virtual desktop enabled the game works
nov. 12 21:21:28 <malevolent-pol>	but I cannot get a resolution greater than 800x600!
nov. 12 21:21:31 <malevolent-pol>	xDD
nov. 12 21:21:51 <pango>	Ok... I'm in a multiscreen setup, so almost always use a virtual desktop
nov. 12 21:22:03 <pango>	hence I cannot really test without it
nov. 12 21:22:16 <malevolent-pol>	the virtual desktop does growth, but when the game starts, the virtual desktop resizes to 800x600 once again
nov. 12 21:22:29 <pango>	that's the game resolution I assume
nov. 12 21:22:45 <malevolent-pol>	yes, but there is no option to resize anywhere
nov. 12 21:22:57 <malevolent-pol>	anywhere I see
nov. 12 21:23:03 <pango>	Wine does not do that
nov. 12 21:23:21 <malevolent-pol>	what doesn't do?
nov. 12 21:23:33 <pango>	apply scalers to change display size
nov. 12 21:23:35 <malevolent-pol>	no no
nov. 12 21:23:45 <pango>	ah, in game settings
nov. 12 21:23:46 <malevolent-pol>	inside the game or its config files, I mean
nov. 12 21:23:54 <malevolent-pol>	:)
nov. 12 21:23:54 <pango>	I don't remember
nov. 12 21:24:17 <malevolent-pol>	PoL has a feature inside the bottle configuration
nov. 12 21:24:41 <malevolent-pol>	In miscellanious --> command to exec before running the program
nov. 12 21:25:00 <malevolent-pol>	it's supposed that if I put nircmd on there it will be launched?
nov. 12 21:25:19 <pango>	it should already be the case
nov. 12 21:25:29 <pango>	check ~/.PlayOnLinux/shortcuts/Syberia
nov. 12 21:26:06 <malevolent-pol>	there is your line: (sleep 10; "P"OL_Wine nircmd.exe win hide title Syberia; sleep 0.1; "P"OL_Wine nircmd.exe win hideshow title Syberia)&POL_Wine Syberia.exe "$@"
nov. 12 21:26:25 <pango>	yup
nov. 12 21:26:44 <pango>	but it seems it doesn't work without a virtual desktop
nov. 12 21:27:05 <malevolent-pol>	no, and in full screen it doesn't working for me... :(
nov. 12 21:27:59 <pango>	without a virtual desktop Wine windows are separate X windows, so I suppose that it this case one would need a X utility to do the same job
nov. 12 21:28:10 <malevolent-pol>	perhaps because I have the game installed in spanish?
nov. 12 21:28:14 <pango>	(iconize the game, restore it)
nov. 12 21:28:24 <malevolent-pol>	the name sholud be the same...
nov. 12 21:28:44 <pango>	No, I don't think so, I think it's just that it depends on the use of a virtual desktop
nov. 12 21:29:26 <malevolent-pol>	But if I don't use a VD, it should be work, then, I tried both combinations...
nov. 12 21:29:37 <ptinou>	http://heeeeeeeey.com/
nov. 12 21:30:31 <pango>	?
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nov. 12 21:30:53 <pango>	http://www.wwwdotcom.com/
nov. 12 21:30:58 <oscar-pol>	hi at all
nov. 12 21:31:01 <pango>	hi oscar-pol 
nov. 12 21:31:09 <malevolent-pol>	hello oscar
nov. 12 21:32:11 <oscar-pol>	if you play cs1.6!! small help plz
nov. 12 21:35:15 <malevolent-pol>	pango, if I would like to launch task manager instead nircmd, I should change the line that says: (sleep 10; "P"OL_Wine nircmd.exe win hide title Syberia; sleep 0.1; "P"OL_Wine nircmd.exe win hideshow title Syberia)&POL_Wine Syberia.exe "$@" for this one?(sleep 10; "P"OL_Wine taskmgr; sleep 0.1)&POL_Wine Syberia.exe "$@"
nov. 12 21:35:15 <ptinou>	http://www.nelson-haha.com/
nov. 12 21:35:48 <pango>	malevolent-pol: you can even drop the sleep 0.1
nov. 12 21:36:36 <pango>	ptinou: I guess everyone shares the same URLs... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yHl24QynOM
nov. 12 21:36:51 <ptinou>	http://www.theuselessweb.com/
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nov. 12 21:53:42 <malevolent-pol>	I'm gonna try
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nov. 12 21:55:21 <MysterX>	Hello
nov. 12 21:55:38 <ptinou>	hello
nov. 12 21:55:44 <MysterX>	may i ask something?
nov. 12 21:55:47 <ptinou>	yep
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nov. 12 21:56:18 <MysterX>	i've ubuntu 12.04 LTS with a Intel 3000HD graphics card
nov. 12 21:56:27 <MysterX>	and now i play SC2
nov. 12 21:56:34 <MysterX>	but the textures a flickering
nov. 12 21:56:51 <MysterX>	so i know there are a alot of settings to tweak
nov. 12 21:56:58 <MysterX>	in the registry
nov. 12 21:57:11 <MysterX>	but when i changes something do i need to reboot?
nov. 12 21:57:14 <ptinou>	no
nov. 12 21:57:20 <MysterX>	bummer
nov. 12 21:57:24 <MysterX>	i still not work :P
nov. 12 21:57:30 <MysterX>	*it
nov. 12 21:57:58 <MysterX>	man i get epeleptic of the flickering
nov. 12 22:00:00 <MysterX>	i think it's the driver of the Intel.. :( i can't fixed it with the settings i think
nov. 12 22:01:02 <malevolent-pol>	grrr, it opens, but I can't clic or do anything on the taskmgr!
nov. 12 22:01:04 <malevolent-pol>	>.<
nov. 12 22:01:07 <Dougie187>	Well, to be honest. that's not a very good graphics card
nov. 12 22:01:24 <Dougie187>	I wouldn't expect it to play SC2 very well.
nov. 12 22:01:31 <MysterX>	it plays
nov. 12 22:01:41 <MysterX>	20 fp/s
nov. 12 22:01:42 <malevolent-pol>	Well, I'm going to dinner...
nov. 12 22:01:49 <malevolent-pol>	thank you guys!
nov. 12 22:01:50 <malevolent-pol>	:)
nov. 12 22:01:57 <Dougie187>	ptinou: I just got a ticket response with this info "If you wish to provide information about possible false positives you can send information to Hacks@blizzard.com. While that may not change the outcome for your account they would be happy to look at that information."
nov. 12 22:02:34 <Dougie187>	not any new info. but that's what they wrote me this time. :P
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nov. 12 22:41:47 <jesus-pol>	:)
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nov. 12 22:42:20 <imcompletelylost>	yeah
nov. 12 22:42:25 <imcompletelylost>	Hi there guys
nov. 12 22:42:53 <FLHerne>	Hi :-)
nov. 12 22:46:16 <imcompletelylost>	There's no much activity over there
nov. 12 22:46:29 <imcompletelylost>	here*
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nov. 12 22:55:04 <ptinou>	imcompletelylost: you can talk :p
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nov. 12 22:58:51 <jordan-pol>	welches programm benützen um spiele aszuführen
nov. 12 22:59:15 <ptinou>	!lng jordan-pol
nov. 12 22:59:16 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english jordan-pol
nov. 12 23:00:08 <jordan-pol>	no deutsch oder serbokroatisch
nov. 12 23:00:14 <ptinou>	Please speak english
nov. 12 23:00:25 <imcompletelylost>	heey guys
nov. 12 23:00:40 <imcompletelylost>	someone had installed the oblivion mod manager with pol?
nov. 12 23:00:48 <imcompletelylost>	I did it with wine long time ago
nov. 12 23:00:52 <jordan-pol>	lidelbit
nov. 12 23:01:02 <imcompletelylost>	but it didn't work at 100%
nov. 12 23:03:23 <jordan-pol>	dies gems not works programm problem
nov. 12 23:03:39 <ptinou>	jordan-pol: we don't understand
nov. 12 23:04:39 <imcompletelylost>	we don't understand at all....
nov. 12 23:04:52 <jordan-pol>	ok danks
nov. 12 23:05:04 <imcompletelylost>	try using google translate at least...
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nov. 12 23:05:50 <imcompletelylost>	ok, byebye then xDD
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nov. 13 00:23:27 <AbuDhabi>	Hi. I'm trying to make my EU3:DW work under Debian using POL.
nov. 13 00:24:04 <AbuDhabi>	I've got the virtual drive thing set up, with its separate version of WINE and libraries reported to be needed by the game.
nov. 13 00:24:54 <AbuDhabi>	However, the game is installed on one of the Windows partitions. I have tried to symlink the directory from within the virtual drive.
nov. 13 00:25:18 <AbuDhabi>	I have set NO_FSCHECK to TRUE.
nov. 13 00:25:31 <AbuDhabi>	But when I try to create a shortcut, the binary isn't found.
nov. 13 00:25:33 <AbuDhabi>	Why is that?
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nov. 13 00:30:09 <AbuDhabi>	I can't figure it out. I definitely do not want to copy the whole damn thing over to the Linux partition.
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nov. 13 00:39:16 <AbuDhabi>	Copying an executable gets it detected properly. But symlinks appear ignored despite NO_FSCHECK.
nov. 13 00:43:01 <ptinou>	NO_FSCHECK is not made for that
nov. 13 00:43:58 <AbuDhabi>	Okay, so how do I make it see symlinks?
nov. 13 00:44:27 <ptinou>	don't use syminks
nov. 13 00:44:30 <ptinou>	it causes problems.
nov. 13 00:45:33 <AbuDhabi>	So you're basically saying there's no way to have an application stay where it is so it can be used on either Windows or Linux, whichever you happen to be running.
nov. 13 00:45:40 <AbuDhabi>	Yes?
nov. 13 00:46:04 <ptinou>	it is not supported at least
nov. 13 00:46:16 <ptinou>	and yes, it is very dangerous to play with that
nov. 13 00:47:46 <Noah-pom>	Whenever I try to install steam_flags the install window starts to load then automatically closes. Any ideas to start with? (OSX 10.7.5, Macbook 6,1, PlayOnMac 4.1.8)
nov. 13 00:48:12 <ptinou>	that's normal ...
nov. 13 00:48:16 <ptinou>	steam_flags does pratically nothing
nov. 13 00:48:48 <Noah-pom>	So it is installing properly?
nov. 13 00:48:57 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 13 00:49:06 <ptinou>	but I think it is not what you are looking for
nov. 13 00:49:08 <Noah-pom>	Ok thank you for your help>
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nov. 13 00:51:06 <AbuDhabi>	ptinou: Welp, I found a workaround (seems the check is only made by POL_Shortcut, and not by the actual shortcut itself when running the thing) by making a folder and copying an exe there, making the shortcut to that, and then replacing the folder with a symlink to the proper place.
nov. 13 00:51:50 <ptinou>	AbuDhabi: Don't cry when you're windows drive will be broken
nov. 13 00:53:03 <AbuDhabi>	Unless it literally fucks the everloving hell out of the whole physical disk, it's no problem. I've got this on a separate partition.
nov. 13 00:53:10 <AbuDhabi>	From the system, that is.
nov. 13 00:53:39 *	AbuDhabi moves on to another problem: "Unhandled Exception: System.NotSupportedException: Can't get timezone name."
nov. 13 00:54:20 <ptinou>	sorry, we do not support that kind of installation
nov. 13 00:56:18 <AbuDhabi>	It's probably a problem with the game itself. Notepad2 works fine this way.
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nov. 13 00:57:32 <AbuDhabi>	Or even Mono.
nov. 13 01:21:09 <AbuDhabi>	Fuck yeah. Downgrading Mono to 2.8 fixed that issue.
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nov. 13 01:23:55 <AbuDhabi>	The launcher operates properly... the game doesn't seem to want to load, though. Stuck on a black screen with only the hourglass cursor running. Hmm.
nov. 13 01:26:37 <AbuDhabi>	Ah! Excellent. The game does load, but the graphics just won't show up. Progress.
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nov. 13 01:37:12 <Dougie187>	ptinou: Did you ever check your D3Debug.txt file?
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nov. 13 01:51:55 <AbuDhabi>	Awright, game runs. Unplayably slowly, but still.
nov. 13 01:52:25 <AbuDhabi>	I'll have to figure out which version of WINE has the correct magic for proper functioning.
nov. 13 01:57:51 <Dougie187>	pango: you around still?
nov. 13 01:58:54 <pango>	yup
nov. 13 01:59:08 <Dougie187>	I have a question about my D3Debug.txt file.
nov. 13 01:59:08 <Dougie187>	:P
nov. 13 01:59:34 <Dougie187>	lemme get you a link
nov. 13 01:59:44 <Dougie187>	unless you still have it from yesterday
nov. 13 01:59:56 <Dougie187>	https://www.dropbox.com/s/bt4oz8s57onf6rq/D3Debug.txt
nov. 13 02:00:09 <Dougie187>	Ok, so there's a line in it that says this
nov. 13 02:00:17 <Dougie187>	2012.10.31 08:40:42.917078000	Agent is not reporting speed - this is a problem.
nov. 13 02:00:39 <Dougie187>	I'm comparing this to my wife's D3Debug from a windows computer.
nov. 13 02:01:41 <Dougie187>	I also have lines like this, "SNOFileLoadTextFile: 'Data_D3\PC\Misc\banned_names.txt'"
nov. 13 02:01:46 <Dougie187>	and those aren't in the windows one.
nov. 13 02:02:17 <Dougie187>	Do either of those seem interesting to you?
nov. 13 02:03:08 <pango>	what does banned_names.txt contain?
nov. 13 02:03:26 <Dougie187>	its' not on my computer anymore, so I have no idea.
nov. 13 02:03:42 <Dougie187>	I'm going to get a more recent D3Debug.txt on my wife's laptop to see if it's on there. because her log is from 9/24
nov. 13 02:03:45 <Dougie187>	and mines from 10/31
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nov. 13 02:07:39 <Dougie187>	I was thinking the Agent not reporting speed might be what they saw
nov. 13 02:08:03 <pango>	no idea what "speed" refers to
nov. 13 02:08:09 <Dougie187>	me either
nov. 13 02:08:14 <Dougie187>	since it's not in the windows one at all
nov. 13 02:08:36 <Dougie187>	But it also says this
nov. 13 02:08:37 <Dougie187>	2012.10.31 08:40:42.332376000   CPU Processors: 0
nov. 13 02:08:49 <Dougie187>	Followed by...
nov. 13 02:08:52 <Dougie187>	CPU Cores: 4
nov. 13 02:08:57 <Dougie187>	CPU Threads: 8
nov. 13 02:09:03 <Dougie187>	and the windows one says Processors is 1
nov. 13 02:10:00 <pango>	should be compared with another Linux log
nov. 13 02:10:11 <Dougie187>	I have from from the PTR
nov. 13 02:10:15 <Dougie187>	lemme look at that
nov. 13 02:10:24 <pango>	because if it's caused by some missing API implementation in Wine, everyone should have the same message
nov. 13 02:10:27 <Dougie187>	it says the same thing
nov. 13 02:10:32 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 13 02:10:49 <Dougie187>	lemme see if there's anyone in #r/linux
nov. 13 02:13:43 <Dougie187>	seems like everyone is asleep. :P
nov. 13 02:13:50 <Dougie187>	You don't play D3 do you?
nov. 13 02:14:34 <pango>	no
nov. 13 02:15:08 <pango>	and I should be asleep too :p
nov. 13 02:15:12 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 13 02:15:26 <Dougie187>	Well, if you want to go I can tell you what I find tomorrow (assuming you're interested). :P
nov. 13 02:15:41 <pango>	ok
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nov. 13 11:29:32 <altobar>	salut, sur le site pol on nous dit "votre appli ne tourne pas, faites un script d'install', c'est pas trop difficile". je veux bien jeter un oeil mais j'aimerais avec 1 ou 2 scripts d'install qui fonctionnent comme exemple, où je peux trouver ça ?
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nov. 13 11:31:54 <Marmotte>	altobar: dans la liste des applis ?
nov. 13 11:32:15 <Marmotte>	http://www.playonlinux.com/fr/supported_apps.html
nov. 13 11:32:26 <Marmotte>	pour chaque appli, tu as la possibilité d'afficher le script
nov. 13 11:33:14 <altobar>	oki, super, je vais mater ça
nov. 13 11:34:20 <altobar>	en fait j'arrive à installer le jeu, aller jusqu'à l'écran de lancement de l'appli puis il me dit qu'il y a un pb dans le "main"
nov. 13 11:34:44 <altobar>	c'est qqchose qui se modifie dans le script d'installation où non ? (pas que je parte sur une fausse piste ;) )
nov. 13 11:35:18 <Marmotte>	tu as installé comment ton jeu ? avec un script fourni par PoL ?
nov. 13 11:36:07 <altobar>	non, directement à partir de la ligne "à partir d'une application non supportée"
nov. 13 11:37:49 -mrmist-	[GLOBAL NOTICE] - That should be all the planned disruption for now.  Please feel free to resume your normal day to day lives. :)
nov. 13 11:44:48 <Marmotte>	ok
nov. 13 11:45:15 <Marmotte>	peut être qu'il manque des paquets ou qu'il y a des modifs à faire dans des libs, je ne connais pas trop ça (j'ai jamais bidouillé là dedans :P)
nov. 13 11:45:47 <Marmotte>	si tu as installé manuellement, va dans la configuration de ton environnement wine depuis PoL
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nov. 13 11:45:54 <Marmotte>	(je ne peux pas trop t'aider plus, désolé)
nov. 13 11:57:37 <altobar>	ok, bah je n'y arriverai pas seul, ça c'est sûr ^^
nov. 13 11:58:47 <altobar>	et sinon y a de vrais émulateurs dans linux ? ^^
nov. 13 11:59:16 <altobar>	(dsl du afk, je fais du ménage en mm tps :p )
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nov. 13 14:26:41 <anju-pol>	hello all
nov. 13 14:27:19 <anju-pol>	please help me to install itunes 10 version with playonlinux
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nov. 13 16:42:46 <Dougie187>	Hows it going guys>?
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nov. 13 17:11:31 <Dougie187>	So, I checked my log with a windows xp log, a windows 7 log, and another linux users log, and nothing interesting stands out
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nov. 13 17:36:20 <benc-pol>	бля есть тут свои ?
nov. 13 17:36:20 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel benc-pol
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nov. 13 17:51:29 <ertfarquhar-pom>	hey
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nov. 13 17:51:33 <ertfarquhar-pom>	hey
nov. 13 17:51:38 <ertfarquhar-pom>	hello
nov. 13 17:51:50 <ertfarquhar-pom>	i want to install packet tracer on my mac
nov. 13 17:51:54 <ertfarquhar-pom>	what should i do
nov. 13 17:52:06 <ertfarquhar-pom>	 ?
nov. 13 17:52:06 <ertfarquhar-pom>	thx
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nov. 13 18:03:55 <macuser-pom>	Ive downloaded this program but whenever i try to install something such as .netfx 3.0 i always get an error i cant run anything im trying to run windows
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nov. 13 19:04:44 <malevolent>	hi guys!
nov. 13 19:05:37 <ptinou>	hi
nov. 13 19:05:53 <malevolent>	Syberia vs me round 2....
nov. 13 19:05:55 <malevolent>	xD
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nov. 13 19:06:01 <ptinou>	?
nov. 13 19:06:42 <malevolent>	hehehe, yesterday I was trying to play Syberia (GoG edition) in full screen but I couldn't
nov. 13 19:07:11 <malevolent>	I was chatting with pango, who luckily wrote the PoL installation script
nov. 13 19:08:16 <malevolent>	but nothing, I wasn't lucky
nov. 13 19:08:25 <malevolent>	I'm reinstalling the game once again
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nov. 13 19:13:35 <Dougie187>	hey ptinou, hows it going?
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nov. 13 19:17:32 <malevolent>	FUCK YEAH!!!
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nov. 13 19:17:59 <malevolent>	YEAH!
nov. 13 19:18:02 <malevolent>	I did it!
nov. 13 19:18:04 <malevolent>	:)
nov. 13 19:19:58 <malevolent>	the problem was on winecfg!
nov. 13 19:20:13 <pangoafk>	?
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nov. 13 19:21:15 <malevolent>	remember yesterday?
nov. 13 19:21:34 <pango>	I think, yes
nov. 13 19:21:43 <malevolent>	I couldn't play Syberia on full screen
nov. 13 19:21:48 <malevolent>	even with your script
nov. 13 19:22:47 <malevolent>	well, I've just reinstalled once more time
nov. 13 19:23:58 <malevolent>	and as always, it failed to start in full screen mode (black screen thing) and I created a virtual desktop, 1440x900 one, but as always also, it resized to 800x600
nov. 13 19:24:29 <malevolent>	but today I played with wine config, and I see a suspicious checkbox
nov. 13 19:24:48 <malevolent>	Under Graphics tab
nov. 13 19:25:06 <malevolent>	there is a "Allow the window manager to control the windows"
nov. 13 19:25:15 <pango>	oh
nov. 13 19:25:21 <malevolent>	checked by default, and uncheking it.... tadah!!!
nov. 13 19:25:24 <malevolent>	IT WORKS!
nov. 13 19:25:26 <malevolent>	^^
nov. 13 19:26:08 <malevolent>	I don't know if you can modify your script to "uncheck" this inside the wine prefix....
nov. 13 19:26:09 <pango>	ok, so, you unchecked the virtual desktop and unchecked managed windows?
nov. 13 19:26:16 <malevolent>	yes
nov. 13 19:26:21 <pango>	yup, that can be done
nov. 13 19:26:26 <malevolent>	:)
nov. 13 19:26:56 <malevolent>	I'm pretty sure that there will be more people in the same issue than me
nov. 13 19:28:24 <pango>	ok, checking how it works for me
nov. 13 19:28:50 <malevolent>	what desktop do you have¿
nov. 13 19:28:54 <pango>	(with virtual desktop though)
nov. 13 19:29:18 <malevolent>	perhaps is only gnome 3-related
nov. 13 19:29:31 <pango>	I have 2 screens, 1280x1024 + 1366x768
nov. 13 19:29:45 <malevolent>	I could try in KDE also... and I have a Unity on my girlfriends' CP
nov. 13 19:29:46 <malevolent>	PC*
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nov. 13 19:33:43 <malevolent>	ups, I closed PoL accidentally
nov. 13 19:33:44 <Dougie187>	hey pango, I looked into that log stuff more last night
nov. 13 19:34:00 <Dougie187>	windows xp, windows 7, and unbanned linux computers all have the same stuff in them
nov. 13 19:37:04 <pango>	hi Dougie187, yes, I saw that
nov. 13 19:37:21 <Dougie187>	k. kind of disappointing but oh well
nov. 13 19:37:22 <Dougie187>	:P
nov. 13 19:38:43 <pango>	malevolent: with virtual desktop it work just as well with or without managed windows
nov. 13 19:39:11 <pango>	malevolent: I tried without virtual desktop and Wine 1.5.17, as it handles xrandr a bit better and doesn't totally break my desktop
nov. 13 19:39:34 <pango>	malevolent: but then it didn't work as well, eventually the game ends up iconized
nov. 13 19:39:52 <pango>	ie nircmd didn't restore it properly
nov. 13 19:39:54 <malevolent>	and with the checkbox unchecked?
nov. 13 19:40:01 <pango>	which one?
nov. 13 19:40:10 <pango>	I now have managed windows unchecked
nov. 13 19:40:19 <malevolent>	that one
nov. 13 19:40:26 <pango>	yes
nov. 13 19:40:31 <pango>	that's the test I'm currently doing
nov. 13 19:40:37 <pango>	doesn't work for me
nov. 13 19:40:49 <malevolent>	what desktop manager do you have?
nov. 13 19:40:55 <pango>	KWin
nov. 13 19:41:17 <malevolent>	mmm, I'm on gnome 3 right now (I usually use KDE, too)
nov. 13 19:41:32 <malevolent>	I can do a test under KDE to see how it behaves
nov. 13 19:41:48 <pango>	yup, that would be interesting
nov. 13 19:42:14 <malevolent>	My hardware is quite common, so I don't think it is the problem
nov. 13 19:42:24 <malevolent>	I bet for the DM
nov. 13 19:42:38 <malevolent>	give me some time to test....
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nov. 13 19:50:14 <pango>	interesting, it seems GOG broke the download URLs again...
nov. 13 19:50:39 <ptinou>	??
nov. 13 19:52:10 <pango>	 /download/ => /downlink/
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nov. 13 19:55:09 <malevolent>	pango: well test 1) reinstall without your script won't work in my enviroment
nov. 13 19:55:44 <malevolent>	now I'm cp the binaries to other machines with different hardware and desktop managers
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nov. 13 20:09:35 <ptinou>	hi
nov. 13 20:17:22 <Dougie187>	lol
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nov. 13 20:21:49 <malevolent>	pango: test 2) under ubuntu unity behaves exacly like in gnome 3, I must uncheck the checkbox or play in a virtual desktop
nov. 13 20:22:11 <malevolent>	now I'm gonna switch to KDE in my computer
nov. 13 20:22:25 <malevolent>	see you in a few minutes
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nov. 13 20:27:00 <malevolent-pol>	pango: test 3) under KDE, the same thing... if I don't uncheck the "allow window manager to control the windows", it doesn't work either
nov. 13 20:27:16 <malevolent-pol>	so it's no gnome-related issue
nov. 13 20:27:17 <pango>	same thing as?
nov. 13 20:27:25 <malevolent-pol>	as gnome and unity
nov. 13 20:27:40 <pango>	ok, but when you uncheck it, it works?
nov. 13 20:27:44 <malevolent-pol>	yes
nov. 13 20:27:58 <pango>	ok, so that must be some issue on my computer...
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nov. 13 20:28:04 <pango>	I'll commit the change
nov. 13 20:28:05 <malevolent-pol>	i'm gonna try one last thing, with my laptop
nov. 13 20:28:09 <pango>	ok
nov. 13 20:28:25 <malevolent-pol>	I will plug a monitor and we'll se how it behaves
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nov. 13 20:28:33 <malevolent-pol>	in a dual monitor scenario
nov. 13 20:28:59 <pango>	cool, thank you
nov. 13 20:30:03 <malevolent-pol>	I guess you have one monitor besides the other, haven't you?
nov. 13 20:30:25 <malevolent-pol>	not copying, but expanding the virtual desktop
nov. 13 20:32:29 <pango>	twinview, no cloning
nov. 13 20:33:00 <malevolent-pol>	ok, let's install all the stuff....
nov. 13 20:33:19 <pango>	(different topic, does someone understand what he means? http://www.playonlinux.com/en/issue-1516.html)
nov. 13 20:33:29 <pango>	what's this wf5 stuff?
nov. 13 20:33:39 *	pango has a bad feeling about it
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nov. 13 20:35:37 <malevolent-pol>	xD
nov. 13 20:35:39 <malevolent-pol>	no idea
nov. 13 20:36:24 <pango>	must be wild fire 5, some jagged alliance 2 patch
nov. 13 20:36:51 <Dougie187>	sounds like a reasonable assumption.
nov. 13 20:36:53 <malevolent-pol>	seems jagged alliance' stuff https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wf5.exe
nov. 13 20:38:13 <malevolent-pol>	But Не удалось найти версию means: Unable to find a version
nov. 13 20:38:13 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel malevolent-pol
nov. 13 20:38:32 <pango>	yup, invalid case then, he's trying to install a different game
nov. 13 20:38:44 <malevolent-pol>	so in Description, steps to reproduce: ja2 error installation, wine 1.4 now found
nov. 13 20:39:02 <malevolent-pol>	really means wine 1.4 NOT  found
nov. 13 20:39:13 <pango>	yup, guessed that much with google translator
nov. 13 20:39:26 <malevolent-pol>	:P
nov. 13 20:39:34 <pango>	but his answer was much less understandable
nov. 13 20:41:17 <malevolent-pol>	as far as I can understand, the binary ja2.exe is missing on the installation folder
nov. 13 20:41:48 <malevolent-pol>	perhaps a corrupted installation?
nov. 13 20:42:00 <pango>	I repeat, he's trying to install a different game
nov. 13 20:42:19 <pango>	so the script fails
nov. 13 20:43:25 <pango>	http://www.gog.com/gamecard/jagged_alliance_2 vs http://www.gog.com/gamecard/jagged_alliance_2_wildfire I assume
nov. 13 20:44:13 <malevolent-pol>	that makes sense...
nov. 13 20:44:28 <pango>	what's "interesting" is that I may have used a wildfire gfx for the plain ja2 installer :/
nov. 13 20:47:50 <pango>	bah, it seems the same gfx has been used for at least 3 games (ja2 unfinished business, also)
nov. 13 20:47:56 <pango>	so... I don't know :p
nov. 13 20:48:58 <pango>	moving on... :D
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nov. 13 20:56:10 <step-pol>	hello
nov. 13 20:56:42 <pango>	hi step-pol 
nov. 13 21:03:21 <malevolent-pol>	pango: bad news... my laptop's hw s*cks so much that the game crashes... :_(
nov. 13 21:04:12 <pango>	mmh so no conclusion for this configuration
nov. 13 21:04:36 <pango>	I'm tempted to push the "no managed windows" change nonetheless
nov. 13 21:05:26 <malevolent-pol>	well, I tried in two different machines with two different hardware and in KDE, GNOME and Unity behaves the same way
nov. 13 21:05:34 <pango>	yup
nov. 13 21:05:44 <malevolent-pol>	it's quite definitive
nov. 13 21:05:54 <malevolent-pol>	at least with only one monitor
nov. 13 21:06:27 <malevolent-pol>	I would try with my computer, but I only have a monitor with HDMI, the other one has only VGA...
nov. 13 21:07:43 <pango>	committed
nov. 13 21:08:05 <malevolent-pol>	Tomorrow there are a general strike here in spain, so I won't go to work, but on thursday I can get an VGA-HDMI adapter and try exaclty as your configuration
nov. 13 21:08:18 <malevolent-pol>	commited? Oh yeah!!!
nov. 13 21:08:19 <malevolent-pol>	:)
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nov. 13 21:10:03 <malevolent-pol>	anyway, on thursday I'll bring an HDMI adapter and will test with two monitor scenario ;)
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nov. 13 21:12:43 <pango>	ok
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nov. 13 21:37:59 <DerpYah>	Is anyone here?
nov. 13 21:38:08 <Dougie187>	totally
nov. 13 21:38:14 <DerpYah>	I am running CSS on playonlinux and it works awesome
nov. 13 21:38:19 <DerpYah>	platinum even
nov. 13 21:38:27 <Dougie187>	Same with TF2 for me.
nov. 13 21:38:28 <Dougie187>	:D
nov. 13 21:38:36 <DerpYah>	except when I disconnect and try to go back into a server
nov. 13 21:38:46 <DerpYah>	Then it starts lagging so bad for no reason
nov. 13 21:38:57 <Dougie187>	that's weird
nov. 13 21:39:11 <DerpYah>	Very
nov. 13 21:39:28 <DerpYah>	I was enjoying my headshots :(
nov. 13 21:39:33 <Dougie187>	:P
nov. 13 21:39:45 <Dougie187>	Diablo 3 worked great too, platinum even. Until I got banned for no reason. :P
nov. 13 21:39:48 <DerpYah>	I had to test it by creating a server with no bots
nov. 13 21:40:04 <DerpYah>	And when I disconnect and create another server, it lags
nov. 13 21:40:15 <DerpYah>	...in fact even the menu starts lagging
nov. 13 21:40:22 <DerpYah>	...................................
nov. 13 21:40:24 <Dougie187>	It sounds like it's not closing the game properly.
nov. 13 21:40:53 <DerpYah>	Well...I tried, despite the lag to create another server and the lag stays
nov. 13 21:41:04 <DerpYah>	it's like I'm only allowed to have one decent game
nov. 13 21:41:09 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 13 21:41:14 <Dougie187>	I've only tried playing in one game on TF2
nov. 13 21:41:20 <Dougie187>	maybe tonight I'll try leaving one and starting another
nov. 13 21:41:28 <DerpYah>	Yeah, please do.
nov. 13 21:41:30 <DerpYah>	Try
nov. 13 21:41:48 <Dougie187>	have you seen it in TF2 too, or just CSS?
nov. 13 21:41:51 <DerpYah>	I have to know if this is a playonlinux issue, I haven't seen anyone else having this issue
nov. 13 21:42:02 <DerpYah>	I haven't tried TF2 yet
nov. 13 21:42:17 <DerpYah>	I'm still heart broken over CSS
nov. 13 21:42:33 <DerpYah>	I mean in online I had the least amount of latency of everyone
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nov. 13 21:42:50 <DerpYah>	I had like 1 latency, and everyone else had like 30-100
nov. 13 21:43:14 <DerpYah>	So...with that sort of stat, this makes absolutely no sense
nov. 13 21:43:21 <DerpYah>	I'm done typing alot
nov. 13 21:45:24 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 13 21:45:27 <Dougie187>	sorry I got a phone call
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nov. 13 21:47:04 <DerpYah>	Oh ok...I was just looking through the debugger and I found this
nov. 13 21:47:18 <DerpYah>	Unable to remove c:\program files\steam\steamapps\statichavok\counter-strike source\cstrike\textwindow_temp.html!
nov. 13 21:47:54 <Dougie187>	hmm
nov. 13 21:47:57 <DerpYah>	Is the game having trouble clearing the cache?
nov. 13 21:48:08 <DerpYah>	Am I having a memory overload?
nov. 13 21:48:14 <Dougie187>	honestly I don't know. I'm really just a user of PoL + wine. :P
nov. 13 21:48:20 <Dougie187>	try looking at top
nov. 13 21:48:29 <Dougie187>	when the game is running have top ope
nov. 13 21:48:30 <Dougie187>	open*
nov. 13 21:48:38 <Dougie187>	then when you leave a game you can see if it is running out of memory.
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nov. 13 21:50:11 <DerpYah>	Does it ever have minidumps
nov. 13 21:50:20 <Dougie187>	ionno
nov. 13 21:50:21 <DerpYah>	The log is filled with them
nov. 13 21:50:27 <DerpYah>	*facepalm*
nov. 13 21:50:35 <DerpYah>	I think that might explain the lag
nov. 13 21:50:48 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 13 21:50:51 <Dougie187>	that probably would
nov. 13 21:51:13 <DerpYah>	This is the first time I've had this issue.  Since I used Lubuntu
nov. 13 21:51:48 <Dougie187>	what version?
nov. 13 21:52:16 <DerpYah>	12.04
nov. 13 21:52:23 <DerpYah>	Didn't happen in 12.10
nov. 13 21:52:37 <DerpYah>	But in 12.10, you can't install catalyst
nov. 13 21:52:46 <Dougie187>	ah
nov. 13 21:52:47 <DerpYah>	I even tried uninstalling catalyst and it still does it
nov. 13 21:53:05 <DerpYah>	It's like the OS itself is doing it
nov. 13 21:53:35 <Dougie187>	that's weird
nov. 13 21:53:47 <Dougie187>	well, I'll let you know if it happens on TF2, but I haven't noticed anything
nov. 13 21:53:49 <Dougie187>	I'm on 12.10 though
nov. 13 21:53:55 <Dougie187>	and I have an nvidia card
nov. 13 21:54:03 <Dougie187>	and on Ubuntu instead of lubuntu
nov. 13 21:54:03 <DerpYah>	ah. ._.; i have ati.. and thanks i guess.
nov. 13 21:54:52 <DerpYah>	tf2 would be better if it's being run from valaves. linux steam clinet.
nov. 13 21:55:08 <DerpYah>	closed beta.. :I
nov. 13 21:56:20 <Dougie187>	It's not. I'm running it in PoL with wine
nov. 13 21:56:32 <DerpYah>	ik im just saying
nov. 13 21:56:35 <DerpYah>	it would run better xD
nov. 13 21:56:36 <Dougie187>	It is for all the lucky people in the closed beta. :P
nov. 13 21:56:37 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 13 21:56:47 <DerpYah>	Lol.
nov. 13 21:56:49 <Dougie187>	k, meeting time. bbl
nov. 13 21:56:54 <DerpYah>	seeya
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nov. 13 23:08:00 <ricardo-pol>	xd
nov. 13 23:08:24 <ricardo-pol>	woow what happens? xD
nov. 13 23:08:40 <pango>	?
nov. 13 23:08:43 <ricardo-pol>	my name's ricardo pol xD
nov. 13 23:08:50 <pango>	hi
nov. 13 23:08:53 <ricardo-pol>	Hahaha mcdlr xd
nov. 13 23:09:03 <ricardo-pol>	hi pango
nov. 13 23:09:24 <ricardo-pol>	see you pando xd
nov. 13 23:09:29 <pango>	see you :p
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nov. 13 23:11:55 <Dougie187>	Lol
nov. 13 23:11:57 <Dougie187>	What was that?
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nov. 14 00:01:39 <gaige-pol>	hello everyone
nov. 14 00:01:51 <pango>	hi
nov. 14 00:02:00 <gaige-pol>	having a bit of a problem installing OFFICE 2010
nov. 14 00:02:27 <gaige-pol>	I have the CD and was prior windows user and just like linux more but still have to use office for work
nov. 14 00:03:09 <ptinou>	what is your problem ?
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nov. 14 00:03:36 <gaige-pol>	i try to install using the Microsoft OFFICE cd's provided by work
nov. 14 00:03:44 <gaige-pol>	it keeps erroring out
nov. 14 00:03:49 <ptinou>	what error ?
nov. 14 00:04:22 <gaige-pol>	argh should have written them down.
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nov. 14 00:04:39 <gaige-pol>	didnt reallize there was a chat till after the fact
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nov. 14 00:06:02 <gaige-pol>	let me run it again and I will return so no one has to wait around for me.
nov. 14 00:06:03 <gaige-pol>	thanks
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nov. 14 00:16:12 <mopy-dopy>	hi guys!
nov. 14 00:16:25 <mopy-dopy>	can I ask you something?
nov. 14 00:16:54 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 14 00:16:59 <mopy-dopy>	:)
nov. 14 00:17:10 <mopy-dopy>	anyone of you know about wrye bash?
nov. 14 00:17:30 <ptinou>	by name
nov. 14 00:17:38 <mopy-dopy>	I'm trying to install it but i can't because it's made in python and it won't load
nov. 14 00:17:52 <mopy-dopy>	it's a mod manager for the elder scrolls games
nov. 14 00:18:01 <ptinou>	install python
nov. 14 00:18:19 <mopy-dopy>	that was my question
nov. 14 00:18:43 <mopy-dopy>	i dont know if i have to install python or can i share it with linux python in some way
nov. 14 00:18:50 <mopy-dopy>	?
nov. 14 00:19:11 <ptinou>	nope, you can't share it
nov. 14 00:20:01 <ptinou>	I need to go
nov. 14 00:20:03 <ptinou>	sorry
nov. 14 00:20:13 <ptinou>	cya
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nov. 14 02:19:38 <tania-pol>	hello
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nov. 14 05:47:16 <kenneth-pol>	Quick question in Wine 1.4 is there a way to manually turn off the shaders? I mean I know you can do it through the conf for it but the option isnt there does that make sense?
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nov. 14 06:58:10 <tony-pol>	hello
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nov. 14 10:24:57 <virtudes-pol>	ola
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nov. 14 12:32:18 <usuario-pol>	OLA
nov. 14 12:32:36 <usuario-pol>	hello
nov. 14 12:33:06 <usuario-pol>	ooooooolaaaaaaaaaa
nov. 14 12:33:46 <ptinou>	calm down please.
nov. 14 12:34:26 <usuario-pol>	what?
nov. 14 12:34:36 <ptinou>	I said, calm down
nov. 14 12:34:45 <usuario-pol>	in spanins
nov. 14 12:34:57 <ptinou>	this is an english channel
nov. 14 12:35:10 <usuario-pol>	sorry
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nov. 14 13:12:39 <badmetal-pol>	plop
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nov. 14 13:46:00 <usuario-pol>	hello
nov. 14 13:47:02 <usuario-pol>	heeeeeelloooo
nov. 14 13:47:36 <usuario-pol>	heeeeeeelloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
nov. 14 13:50:28 <usuario-pol>	olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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nov. 14 14:01:51 <usuario-pol>	hello‬
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nov. 14 14:32:20 <adrian-pol>	hello
nov. 14 14:32:35 <adrian-pol>	help whit drakensang-online
nov. 14 14:32:42 <adrian-pol>	please
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nov. 14 16:46:37 <packyuser-pol>	hello at all
nov. 14 16:46:45 <packyuser-pol>	can i ask a question?
nov. 14 16:53:53 <Dougie187>	ptinou and pango. check this out.
nov. 14 16:54:23 <Dougie187>	http://pastebin.com/wj77cFCb
nov. 14 16:54:25 <Dougie187>	This is from vexorian
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nov. 14 16:56:12 <Marmotte>	O_o
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nov. 14 16:56:43 <Dougie187>	Yeah I know
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nov. 14 16:59:06 <Marmotte>	good news for him, but no information on what was their mistake about ?
nov. 14 16:59:22 <Dougie187>	no idea. And I have no idea how to get them to unbanned me because of the mistake too
nov. 14 17:00:49 <Marmotte>	seems that Blizzard never give any information :(
nov. 14 17:00:53 <Dougie187>	lol yeah
nov. 14 17:00:59 <Dougie187>	but there's hope? :P
nov. 14 17:01:06 <Dougie187>	I'm going to try to get info from vexorian
nov. 14 17:01:40 <Marmotte>	my second email to Blizzards customer service has not yet been answered
nov. 14 17:01:52 <Dougie187>	I've sent a total of something like 35 tickets. :P
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nov. 14 17:05:22 <mohamed-pol>	hello every one
nov. 14 17:06:02 <Dougie187>	Hello
nov. 14 17:06:35 <mohamed-pol>	i am abeginarwhats play linux do?
nov. 14 17:06:56 <Dougie187>	It's a winemanager
nov. 14 17:07:04 <Dougie187>	a nice way to manage different versions of wine
nov. 14 17:07:09 <Dougie187>	and have custom scripts setup games for you
nov. 14 17:07:47 <mohamed-pol>	can i play general zero hour on it?
nov. 14 17:08:22 <Dougie187>	Maybe?
nov. 14 17:09:41 <Dougie187>	You can check the install scripts. Or maybe look online to see what it says
nov. 14 17:10:57 <mohamed-pol>	thank you sirewho are u? are u user like me or what?
nov. 14 17:11:08 <Dougie187>	Yeah I'm a user
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nov. 14 17:11:48 <mohamed-pol>	thank you very much
nov. 14 17:12:12 <Dougie187>	np
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nov. 14 17:38:31 <ptinou>	unbanned ?
nov. 14 17:38:59 <Dougie187>	One person was
nov. 14 17:39:00 <Dougie187>	not me.
nov. 14 17:39:18 <ptinou>	hum
nov. 14 17:39:41 <Dougie187>	I need to figure out how to get unbanned using any info he can give me. :P
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nov. 14 17:42:34 <Dougie187>	either way, it's promising that he got unbanned
nov. 14 17:43:09 <lenonk>	Same here Doug.  It gives us hope at least
nov. 14 17:43:21 <Dougie187>	Totally.
nov. 14 17:43:37 <Dougie187>	BTW. I was BrownTsunami posting on your cinemablend posts. :P
nov. 14 17:44:13 <lenonk>	Cool.  I posted a reply to the latest article but they never approved it
nov. 14 17:44:34 <Dougie187>	Is there a newer one than the perma-ban one?
nov. 14 17:45:06 <lenonk>	Aren't they all perma-ban ones?  Heh...at any rate, you posted on the latest article
nov. 14 17:45:13 <Dougie187>	Oh ok
nov. 14 17:45:21 <Dougie187>	then I know which one you're talking about
nov. 14 17:46:04 <lenonk>	My reply contained a link to a youtube video about the Family Guy episode with the mule insisting that Kevin Bacon was not in Footloose, and I likened talking to blizzard to it.
nov. 14 17:46:22 <Dougie187>	Lol
nov. 14 17:46:33 <Dougie187>	That is basically how my conversations have been with them
nov. 14 17:46:47 <lenonk>	I guess they had to approve it because it had a link and it slipped through the cracks
nov. 14 17:46:57 <Dougie187>	heh
nov. 14 17:47:02 <Dougie187>	O
nov. 14 17:47:07 <Dougie187>	I've really hated this process so far
nov. 14 17:47:28 <lenonk>	Yeah, I hated it last time when I got banned for playing WoW on Linux as well
nov. 14 17:47:59 <Dougie187>	oh man, that sucks
nov. 14 17:48:17 <Dougie187>	It's completely infuriating the way they act. So arrogant and pompous.
nov. 14 17:48:23 <lenonk>	They claimed they lifted the ban on all affected accounts, but they never lifted it on mine
nov. 14 17:48:29 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 14 17:48:33 <Dougie187>	Did you ever get them to?
nov. 14 17:48:51 <lenonk>	Nah, I started over that time...I should have known then...hindsight and all that
nov. 14 17:48:57 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 14 17:48:58 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 14 17:49:17 <lenonk>	Do you remember the cinemablend article where Zalamarr (or whatever his name was) said that they don't test on Linux?
nov. 14 17:51:25 <Marmotte>	lenonk: this ? http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Lots-Linux-Users-Perma-Banned-Diablo-3-Again-49121.html
nov. 14 17:51:52 <Dougie187>	Yeah, I remember that one
nov. 14 17:51:55 <Dougie187>	That was just a bit ago
nov. 14 17:51:57 <Dougie187>	I'll brb
nov. 14 17:52:09 <lenonk>	That's the one, yeah
nov. 14 17:52:55 <lenonk>	I had to open that ticket under a completely bogus topic to get that response
nov. 14 17:53:19 <lenonk>	Otherwise they'd just close it without reading it.  Let that sink in a minute...I had to LIE to them...to get them to actually read my ticket
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nov. 14 17:55:32 <lenonk>	In fact, when I opened that ticket, I just copied and pasted the text from the last ticket (which got an automated response) into a new ticket with a topic that was something like "I'm having problems connecting"
nov. 14 17:56:22 <youb>	Salutation, comment puis-je résoudre l'erreur "d3dll.dl not found" lors de l'exécution de need for speed most wanted et merci.
nov. 14 17:57:16 <Marmotte>	youb: il faut installer DirectX avec ton jeu
nov. 14 17:57:29 <Marmotte>	tu l'as installé par un script fourni par PoL ou manullement ?
nov. 14 17:57:38 <youb>	manuellement
nov. 14 17:58:09 <Marmotte>	regarde dans les fenêtres de configuration de PoL, il y a une liste de paquets que tu peux installer
nov. 14 17:58:16 <youb>	d'accord
nov. 14 17:58:23 <Marmotte>	je pense que ça doit suffire
nov. 14 17:58:35 <youb>	je vais tester, merci :)
nov. 14 17:58:43 <Marmotte>	sinon, DirectX est fourni avec les jeux d'habitude
nov. 14 17:59:04 <youb>	exact
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nov. 14 17:59:45 <Marmotte>	dans les fenêtres de configuration, tu as un bouton "lancer un executable" pour le lancer dans l'environnement de ton jeu
nov. 14 17:59:57 <Marmotte>	ça devrait l'installer là où il faut aussi :)
nov. 14 18:00:48 <youb>	je vois merci :)
nov. 14 18:04:16 <youb>	ci-joint le message d'erreur
nov. 14 18:04:19 <youb>	Running wine- NFS13.exe (Working directory : /home/ayoub/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/need_for_speed_most_wanted/drive_c/Program Files/R.G. Mechanics/Need for Speed Most Wanted)
nov. 14 18:04:21 <youb>	err:module:import_dll Library d3d11.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\R.G. Mechanics\\Need for Speed Most Wanted\\NFS13.exe") not found
nov. 14 18:04:22 <youb>	err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\Program Files\\R.G. Mechanics\\Need for Speed Most Wanted\\NFS13.exe" failed, status c0000135
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nov. 14 18:08:12 <Marmotte>	quand je parlais du bouton "lancer un exécutable", c'était pour lancer l'installeur de DirectX, youb
nov. 14 18:08:16 <Marmotte>	pas pour lancer le jeu ^^
nov. 14 18:08:49 <youb>	^^
nov. 14 18:08:51 <youb>	oui
nov. 14 18:08:58 <youb>	mais wine crache après
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nov. 14 18:32:58 <Dougie187>	lenonk: yeah, they won't even read my tickets
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nov. 14 18:34:48 <lenonk>	I'm considering opening a new one and asking them to compare my case to Vexorian's
nov. 14 18:35:14 <lenonk>	I wonder though, if they didn't single him out because he went and bought a new copy and has been playing it on Windows.  I haven't heard of anyone else doing that
nov. 14 18:35:57 <Dougie187>	Me too
nov. 14 18:36:06 <Dougie187>	If you do open a new ticket let me know what they say
nov. 14 18:36:14 <Dougie187>	Hopefully vexorian will respond soon. :P
nov. 14 18:36:15 <Marmotte>	I will never buy a new copy :)
nov. 14 18:36:31 <Marmotte>	(and I played half on Linux, half on Windows before being banned)
nov. 14 18:36:33 <Dougie187>	I might call them on the phone and have them compare with him
nov. 14 18:36:39 <lenonk>	Well, I'll find out soon enough.  He was banned at the exact same time as me, with very similar problems, and a very similar setup
nov. 14 18:36:41 <Dougie187>	I really want to get his ticket numbers, so I can have them refer to that
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nov. 14 18:36:54 <Dougie187>	same here. Except I was banned at a different time
nov. 14 18:36:57 <lenonk>	I won't either Marmotte.  I'll probably make them give me a refund if they do lift my ban
nov. 14 18:36:59 <anthony-pol>	helo
nov. 14 18:37:10 <Dougie187>	I'm not going to buy a new copy. But if they unban me I'll play again
nov. 14 18:37:14 <pango>	hi anthony-pol 
nov. 14 18:37:21 <Dougie187>	until them unban me I'm going to keep submitting tickets. :P
nov. 14 18:37:40 <lenonk>	Open a case with the BBB, that's what I did
nov. 14 18:37:56 <anthony-pol>	i have a problem with playonlinux with steam he say : vgui_setup_failed (error message of steam)
nov. 14 18:38:20 <Marmotte>	Dougie187: even if they unban me, I think I will not play so much
nov. 14 18:38:43 <lenonk>	If I do play, I definitely won't use the RMAH ;)
nov. 14 18:38:43 <Dougie187>	I will. I like the game. And I would like to be able to play PvP. I just don't want to play it enough to work to get all my crap back
nov. 14 18:38:50 <lenonk>	Not that I ever did to begin with
nov. 14 18:39:04 <Dougie187>	Lol, I sold one thing. for $1.25
nov. 14 18:39:07 <Dougie187>	and they took $1 of it
nov. 14 18:39:25 <Marmotte>	I never used RMAH
nov. 14 18:39:29 <lenonk>	O.O
nov. 14 18:39:30 <Dougie187>	so, I have $0.25 in my RMAH balance. lol
nov. 14 18:40:02 <Marmotte>	I only played 80~90 hours before the ban
nov. 14 18:40:07 <Dougie187>	I played ~400
nov. 14 18:40:13 <Dougie187>	and I finally got some decent gear
nov. 14 18:40:23 <lenonk>	I literally played a week and a half...MAYBE 40 hours...
nov. 14 18:40:45 <Dougie187>	http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BrownTsunami-1564/
nov. 14 18:40:47 <Dougie187>	Check out my monk
nov. 14 18:40:55 <Dougie187>	I literally got that stuff within the last few weeks.
nov. 14 18:41:00 <Marmotte>	http://eu.battle.net/d3/fr/profile/Marmotte-2840/
nov. 14 18:41:01 <Dougie187>	I found a unity, and sold it for 120M
nov. 14 18:41:45 <Dougie187>	Ive bee playing that DH since the day the game came out
nov. 14 18:41:51 <Marmotte>	my characters are weak, my stuff is bad... :)
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nov. 14 18:42:06 <Marmotte>	I didn't finish to discover the game
nov. 14 18:42:13 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 14 18:42:28 <Dougie187>	I mean, I've been a huge diablo fan. So I was super excited for D3.
nov. 14 18:42:41 <Dougie187>	And have been playing it since it came out. So I would really prefer to be able to play it again
nov. 14 18:42:41 <Marmotte>	huge fan too, but no time to play this year
nov. 14 18:42:46 <Dougie187>	:P yeah
nov. 14 18:42:49 <Marmotte>	a lot of work :
nov. 14 18:42:50 <Marmotte>	:)
nov. 14 18:43:06 <lenonk>	Yeah, check this out:
nov. 14 18:43:07 <lenonk>	http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Nothing-1819/
nov. 14 18:43:17 <lenonk>	Then tell me if you think I was cheating...
nov. 14 18:43:48 <Dougie187>	Definitely. A level 37 wizard totally was cheating.
nov. 14 18:44:18 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 14 18:44:23 <lenonk>	Doesn't tell total time played on there, but it couldn't have been more than 40 hours
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nov. 14 18:44:38 <Dougie187>	yeah, to get total play time you have to log in and check in the profile in game
nov. 14 18:44:50 <Dougie187>	my DH had been played ~375 hrs
nov. 14 18:45:02 <Dougie187>	the rest probably totaled something like 75-100 hrs
nov. 14 18:45:18 <Marmotte>	I just killed Leoric in Hell difficulty before being banned, after about 10 deaths and the last fight was about 15 minutes long :)
nov. 14 18:45:23 <lenonk>	Oh, and check out all my badass gear.  Clearly I cheated to get that!
nov. 14 18:45:28 <Dougie187>	So, I've put a *lot* of time into playing it.
nov. 14 18:46:15 <lenonk>	No dude, I f'in sucked.  I'm not ashamed :P  It was a passtime for me and my wife.  To look at that account and go, "Cheater!" is just assinine
nov. 14 18:46:35 <Dougie187>	Yeah. Well if we ever get unbanned and you want to play feel free to add me.
nov. 14 18:46:42 <lenonk>	Yeah, you're invested for sure
nov. 14 18:47:14 <lenonk>	Definitely sucks for you a lot more than me
nov. 14 18:47:21 <Dougie187>	:P yeah
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nov. 14 18:47:34 <Dougie187>	well, $60 or $120 is a lot regardless of how much time you've put into it
nov. 14 18:47:52 <Dougie187>	($120 for you and your wife)
nov. 14 18:48:03 <lenonk>	I didn't pay 60 each
nov. 14 18:48:09 <lenonk>	I paid 10 each :P
nov. 14 18:48:53 <lenonk>	Toys R Us had an advertised price of $10 per copy for a while.  No idea how they managed that
nov. 14 18:49:05 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 14 18:49:13 <Dougie187>	well, I bought two copies for $60 each
nov. 14 18:49:16 <Dougie187>	Pre-ordered even
nov. 14 18:49:22 <lenonk>	I went to best buy and had them price match it.  For me it's definitely more about the principle of the thing than any real damage done to me
nov. 14 18:49:30 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 14 18:50:51 <Dougie187>	Regardless the principle is what is driving me.
nov. 14 18:50:59 <Dougie187>	I mean if I really did cheat, I would have stopped a while ago.
nov. 14 18:51:08 <Dougie187>	(stopped fighting I mean)
nov. 14 18:52:01 <Dougie187>	Though, I've submitted roughly 35 feedback surveys for the customer support dept. :P
nov. 14 18:52:19 <lenonk>	Yeah, same.  I actually DID cheat on FFXI.  I got tired of the game and wrote a fishing bot, just as a personal challenge.  I got banned and never even contacted them.  I was like, oh well, I got caught, no biggie.
nov. 14 18:52:42 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 14 18:53:25 <Dougie187>	I figured that with the responses they have been giving me, that I should be entitled to give them as much feedback as I can. So I wrote a canned ticket (to answer their canned responses) and have just been submitting it each time they close a ticket. :P
nov. 14 18:53:45 <lenonk>	I thought about doing that, but decided it was not worth the effort
nov. 14 18:54:36 <Dougie187>	I think it has been totally worth the effort. Since it takes almost no time to submit a ticket
nov. 14 18:54:39 <Marmotte>	last week, I sent a looong email to the french customer support, and just got a 5 lines response
nov. 14 18:54:48 <lenonk>	Hmm...Vexorian hasn't responded yet.  He's usually pretty quick.  I wonder if he died of a heart attack from the shock of Blizzard admitting they were wrong?
nov. 14 18:55:05 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 14 18:55:07 <Dougie187>	I hope not.
nov. 14 18:55:09 <lenonk>	I got the same treatment Marmotte
nov. 14 18:55:18 <Dougie187>	Most of my tickets (~30/35) have this response. "This penalty has already been upheld."
nov. 14 18:55:58 <lenonk>	Yeah, I kept getting that response when the first line of my ticket read, "I DO NOT WANT THE BAN ON MY ACCOUNT LIFTED"
nov. 14 18:56:01 <Marmotte>	they confirmed me that they have tested on Wine, I answered asking for the wine configurations used to test, but no response for now
nov. 14 18:56:46 <Dougie187>	Do you guys know vexorian's profile link?
nov. 14 18:57:05 <Marmotte>	don't know
nov. 14 18:57:16 <Dougie187>	:/
nov. 14 18:57:32 <Dougie187>	If we get his profile link then we can refer to his tickets in subsequent tickets.
nov. 14 18:57:34 <lenonk>	Testing on Wine is great and all, but it's kind of like trying to test for all forms of the flu.  It's not going to happen.  There are too many, and it keeps mutating.
nov. 14 18:57:43 <Dougie187>	Yeah
nov. 14 18:57:48 <Dougie187>	and you can have user written patches.
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nov. 14 18:58:27 <lenonk>	We can try that Doug, but since they aren't reading them in the first place I'm not sure it would mattter
nov. 14 18:58:41 <Dougie187>	Well, you can call on the phone
nov. 14 18:58:48 <mktalbert-pol>	Hello, I am new to this software and was trying to get MoP (WoW) installed. I receive an error regarding memory could not be read. Any thoughts?
nov. 14 18:58:49 <Dougie187>	That's what I'm thinking would be most effective.
nov. 14 18:59:02 <lenonk>	I was told that you were always just referred to the online ticket system if you called on the phone
nov. 14 18:59:18 <Dougie187>	No, they make a ticket for you, but they try to deal with you.
nov. 14 18:59:28 <Dougie187>	I don't know if they can unban you, but they might get a GM to look at your acct again
nov. 14 19:00:45 <lenonk>	Doug: Let me know if you have any luck with that please.  I'm "Nothing" on the PoL and WineHQ forums
nov. 14 19:00:51 <Dougie187>	Will do
nov. 14 19:01:02 <Dougie187>	mktalbert-pol: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=25610
nov. 14 19:01:17 <Dougie187>	I don't have MoP (or WoW) but it says platinum. So maybe there's some helpful info there?
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nov. 14 19:02:31 <mktalbert-pol>	Dougie187, I apologize, I'm new to this, I'm not sure what Platinum means.
nov. 14 19:02:37 <mktalbert-pol>	and thank you for your help
nov. 14 19:02:46 <Dougie187>	Platinum is the best rating. it means it runs almost perfectly.
nov. 14 19:02:48 <Dougie187>	or perfectly
nov. 14 19:02:54 <lenonk>	mktalbert-pol:  I'd love to help you, but I haven't played WoW in several years now :(
nov. 14 19:03:17 <mktalbert-pol>	it's ok :(, probably a good reason for me to stop as well lol
nov. 14 19:03:25 <lenonk>	You might get more help if you could be a little more specific about the error
nov. 14 19:03:27 <mktalbert-pol>	I love Linux, might be like the patch for smoking :)
nov. 14 19:03:37 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 14 19:03:56 <Dougie187>	mktalbert-pol: They might have a patch or a tweak you need to do on that page I linked
nov. 14 19:05:08 <mktalbert-pol>	ok, I'll play around with it. I get the logon screen and insta crash. I'm probably missing something somewhere.
nov. 14 19:05:44 <Dougie187>	what os are you on?
nov. 14 19:05:49 <lenonk>	You might want to try different versions of Wine as well
nov. 14 19:06:04 <Dougie187>	I'm thinking ptrace, if you're on ubuntu 12.10 or 12.04
nov. 14 19:06:27 <mktalbert-pol>	Mint13 here, I probably will start with the ones listed..
nov. 14 19:06:48 <lenonk>	WineHQ says it's platinum on 1.5.15
nov. 14 19:07:24 <Dougie187>	You could try this echo 0|sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope
nov. 14 19:07:31 <Dougie187>	(so that in a command line)
nov. 14 19:07:33 <Dougie187>	do*
nov. 14 19:07:45 <lenonk>	Doug, you think maybe we should get Blizzards CS in here to take notes?
nov. 14 19:08:51 <Dougie187>	Lol if they would get in here.
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nov. 14 19:09:03 <Dougie187>	Hopefully they work with Eric Hoover.
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nov. 14 19:09:08 <mktalbert-pol>	that would be funny lol
nov. 14 19:09:14 <Dougie187>	Erich*
nov. 14 19:09:26 <lenonk>	Hopefully they work with somebody...anybody!
nov. 14 19:09:31 <Dougie187>	Lol yeah tell me about it
nov. 14 19:09:43 <Dougie187>	mktalbert-pol: what version of wine are you using?
nov. 14 19:09:51 <lenonk>	Is PoL actually involved in this at all?  Have they contacted Blizzard?
nov. 14 19:10:09 <Dougie187>	ptinou was going to at some point, but I don't know if he did
nov. 14 19:10:21 <ptinou>	?
nov. 14 19:10:32 <ptinou>	Nope I did not contact them
nov. 14 19:10:33 <ptinou>	I can't
nov. 14 19:10:40 <alinmear>	err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"WLDAP32.dll": libldap_r-2.4.so.2:  any idea
nov. 14 19:10:52 <Dougie187>	But he has been very helpful.
nov. 14 19:11:03 <Dougie187>	both him and pango
nov. 14 19:11:27 <Dougie187>	:D
nov. 14 19:11:47 <ptinou>	alinmear: we are not machines.
nov. 14 19:11:48 <lenonk>	Why not ptinou?  Just out of curiosity.
nov. 14 19:11:54 <ptinou>	please say hello, explain something...
nov. 14 19:12:08 <ptinou>	lenonk:  I have no REAL proof that people complaining have not cheated
nov. 14 19:12:13 <ptinou>	therefore, I cannot do anyhting
nov. 14 19:12:18 <ptinou>	that's why I want to be ban
nov. 14 19:12:30 <Dougie187>	he's been trying to get banned without cheating.
nov. 14 19:12:36 <Dougie187>	And once they ban him he was going to contact them
nov. 14 19:12:43 <lenonk>	Gotcha.  Well, I can ship you a virtual image of the HDD that got me banned :P
nov. 14 19:12:46 <Dougie187>	and if they were not willing to help, he was not going to support blizzard games anymore
nov. 14 19:12:47 <ptinou>	but at the moment, I've no linux
nov. 14 19:12:58 <Dougie187>	yeah. :P
nov. 14 19:13:03 <ptinou>	lenonk:  you play in virtual machines ?
nov. 14 19:13:14 <lenonk>	No, but I can make an image from my drive
nov. 14 19:13:34 <lenonk>	Which you could convert back to hardware and have a mirror, minus driver differences obviously
nov. 14 19:14:13 <ptinou>	that would not be a proof
nov. 14 19:14:16 <Dougie187>	He lives in France, so it could be expensive to ship him your HDD image. :P
nov. 14 19:14:25 <Dougie187>	ptinou: well, it would if you got banned using it too.
nov. 14 19:14:28 <lenonk>	Doug, it's vritual, just a file
nov. 14 19:14:36 <Dougie187>	True, you could post it somewhere.
nov. 14 19:14:39 <lenonk>	Exactly, that's what I'm saying
nov. 14 19:14:46 <ptinou>	the problem is that
nov. 14 19:14:50 <ptinou>	I need a clean OS
nov. 14 19:15:03 <ptinou>	because i've no real proof that there is nothing installed to cheat
nov. 14 19:15:29 <Dougie187>	well, hopefully you won't need to try to get banned.
nov. 14 19:15:30 <Dougie187>	:P
nov. 14 19:15:40 <lenonk>	Ok, it was just an option :)
nov. 14 19:15:51 <lenonk>	I didn't get banned until I installed Kubuntu 12.10
nov. 14 19:16:10 <Dougie187>	Well, that was when they did the testing supposedly.
nov. 14 19:16:11 <lenonk>	But I could have been flagged on 12.04...or...maybe 12.10 beta
nov. 14 19:16:24 <Dougie187>	I guess they were monitoring accounts from Oct 14th to Oct 28th
nov. 14 19:16:38 <Dougie187>	An the problem is 12.10 came out on Oct 19th
nov. 14 19:16:49 <lenonk>	Yeah, my ban notice was dated the 23rd iirc
nov. 14 19:17:11 <Dougie187>	Mine was  Nov 1st.
nov. 14 19:17:18 <Dougie187>	but I got it on Nov 2nd. My birthday. lol
nov. 14 19:17:36 <lenonk>	yeah, 10/23 at 10:01 PM
nov. 14 19:17:36 <Dougie187>	I thought it was a "Happy birthday from blizzard" notice. but it was a "You're account is closed. Cheater" notice.
nov. 14 19:18:01 <lenonk>	So it was a "Happy Brithday, Cheater" notice?
nov. 14 19:18:06 <Dougie187>	yeah, lol
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nov. 14 19:19:22 <lenonk>	So, I can't really be of much help anyway in trying to figure out the commonality between people that have been banned.  I tried like 12 different versions of wine, 2 different OSes, and numbers command line hacks to get my frame rate up
nov. 14 19:19:41 <Dougie187>	I tried like 4 different versions of wine
nov. 14 19:19:42 <lenonk>	*numerous command line
nov. 14 19:19:50 <Dougie187>	2 oses. and a bunch of different nvidia drivers
nov. 14 19:19:58 <Dougie187>	and I sometimes used the ptrace fix
nov. 14 19:20:06 <lenonk>	I ended up having the best luck with setarch + taskset + nice -20
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nov. 14 19:20:50 <lenonk>	I need to replace my amd 6990m with an nvidia card.  Linux AMD drivers suck...
nov. 14 19:21:13 <Dougie187>	I never used the setarch
nov. 14 19:21:16 <Dougie187>	just ptrace
nov. 14 19:21:23 <lenonk>	problem is, laptop video cards are expensive, and I need 2 :P
nov. 14 19:21:25 <Dougie187>	but I mostly ran D3 on Wine 1.5.10
nov. 14 19:21:27 <Dougie187>	lol yeah
nov. 14 19:21:59 <lenonk>	my 6990s in SLI are great in Windows...no so much in Linux
nov. 14 19:22:08 <lenonk>	excuse me
nov. 14 19:22:16 <lenonk>	crossfire...not SLI
nov. 14 19:22:41 <Dougie187>	Lol. Yeah I've always gone nvidia just because they seem better with linux
nov. 14 19:22:55 <Dougie187>	when I was younger I went ATI, but haven't done that in a while
nov. 14 19:23:10 <lenonk>	I always have in the past, but I was pissed off at nvidia when I bought this laptop, so I went with the AMD cards
nov. 14 19:23:18 <Dougie187>	:P
nov. 14 19:23:30 <lenonk>	oops
nov. 14 19:24:00 <lenonk>	ptinou:  Let me know if there's anything I can do to help you get banned :D
nov. 14 19:24:38 <ptinou>	for the moment I have no linux machine
nov. 14 19:24:39 <Dougie187>	Hopefully he won't need to. If vexorian was able to get unbanned because of an error maybe they will reverse all of them.
nov. 14 19:25:05 <Dougie187>	That's assuming all of them notice the error though
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nov. 14 19:25:36 <lenonk>	I'm not holding my breath.  I have some external hard drives laying around you can have if you need one ptinou
nov. 14 19:25:49 <ptinou>	that's not the problem
nov. 14 19:25:58 <lenonk>	Ok :)
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nov. 14 19:27:04 <kumpas-pol>	selam türkçe bilen varmı
nov. 14 19:27:23 <pango>	!lng kumpas-pol 
nov. 14 19:27:24 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english kumpas-pol
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nov. 14 19:28:30 <ptinou>	salut pierre
nov. 14 19:28:38 <pango>	Bonsoir Quentin :)
nov. 14 19:29:01 <ptinou>	ça va ?
nov. 14 19:29:16 <pango>	je fais aller
nov. 14 19:29:22 <ptinou>	?
nov. 14 19:30:03 <pango>	La reprise d'activité qui m'aurait concernée ne se fait pas, donc bientôt chômeur :D
nov. 14 19:30:30 <ptinou>	merdme
nov. 14 19:30:31 <ptinou>	merde *
nov. 14 19:30:45 <ptinou>	ça fait chier ça
nov. 14 19:31:21 <pango>	bah, je ne pars pas dans la pire conditions, vu mon ancienneté... Et puis bon, ça battait de l'aile, je ne suis pas sûr que ceux qui restent soient vraiment bien lotis... et pour combien de temps encore
nov. 14 19:31:22 <Dougie187>	Google translate makes what you say confusing. :P
nov. 14 19:31:36 <pango>	Hi Dougie187, sorry about that :)
nov. 14 19:31:41 <ptinou>	t'as combien d'ancienneté ?
nov. 14 19:31:46 <Dougie187>	I don't know if it's accurate.
nov. 14 19:31:47 <pango>	ptinou: presque 6 ans
nov. 14 19:32:04 <ptinou>	ça devrait aider
nov. 14 19:32:40 <pango>	Dougie187: I'm not sure of my english vocabulary in those matters
nov. 14 19:32:48 <Dougie187>	lol it's no big deal.
nov. 14 19:32:55 <Dougie187>	It sounds like you're talking about your work?
nov. 14 19:32:59 <Dougie187>	err, job
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nov. 14 19:33:38 <pango>	Dougie187: yup the enterprise I work for is firing a lot of people, half the people actually
nov. 14 19:33:46 <Dougie187>	That's crazy
nov. 14 19:33:53 <Dougie187>	well, hopefully you're not one of the half.
nov. 14 19:34:20 <ptinou>	welcome in france
nov. 14 19:34:22 <pango>	Dougie187: for the last two weeks there was some proposal of work being transferred to another enterprise, that would have saved 13 jobs
nov. 14 19:35:04 <pango>	Dougie187: but in the end it will not be done, so I'll lose job soon, in a few weeks
nov. 14 19:35:15 <Dougie187>	:(
nov. 14 19:35:19 <Dougie187>	Sorry to hear that.
nov. 14 19:35:46 <ptinou>	pango:  c'est du à quoi ce problème économique ?
nov. 14 19:35:48 <ptinou>	tu sais ou pas ?
nov. 14 19:35:50 <pango>	Dougie187: thanks, but as I said it could be worse, I've been in this enterprise for almost 6 years, etc, so I'll get good compensations
nov. 14 19:35:57 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 14 19:36:31 <pango>	ptinou: they brought our startup to widen their offers (propose online backup and sharing to their clients)
nov. 14 19:36:45 <ptinou>	??
nov. 14 19:36:46 <pango>	ptinou: but just after that they started their own product
nov. 14 19:37:01 <Dougie187>	You looking for new jobs now?
nov. 14 19:37:32 <ptinou>	au pire tu pourras faire une news sur le site de POL en français :p
nov. 14 19:37:33 <ptinou>	on sait jamais
nov. 14 19:37:37 <pango>	ptinou: theirs not totally finished yet, despite the large amount of money they spent, and the first clients are not there yet
nov. 14 19:37:52 <pango>	ptinou: so they need to cut some cost, and we're in
nov. 14 19:38:26 <pango>	Dougie187: I will have to look for a job yes, but I didn't start anything just yet
nov. 14 19:38:42 <pango>	Dougie187: was still waiting to know about the job transfer
nov. 14 19:39:36 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 14 19:40:09 <pango>	for now I'm still employed, didn't yet realized what's going on, and need some time to think about what happened
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nov. 14 19:40:26 <pango>	So yet, I'll have to search, but it's a bit early
nov. 14 19:41:23 <Dougie187>	well, I hope you can find something soon. :D
nov. 14 19:42:10 <pango>	yup... I know some people around, I suppose I'll have to check if they have anything cool for me
nov. 14 19:42:21 <pango>	if not I'll see
nov. 14 19:42:36 <Dougie187>	Maybe you can work for blizzard. :P
nov. 14 19:42:55 <pango>	yup hunt cheaters :D
nov. 14 19:43:03 <Dougie187>	lol yeah
nov. 14 19:43:07 <Dougie187>	or unban linux users. :P
nov. 14 19:43:08 <pango>	or reply to angry posts :D
nov. 14 19:43:36 <Dougie187>	heh yeah
nov. 14 19:49:26 <ptinou>	pango:  grep end of line
nov. 14 19:49:28 <ptinou>	do yo remember ?
nov. 14 19:49:37 <pango>	no :p
nov. 14 19:49:51 <pango>	what's the question?
nov. 14 19:49:53 <ptinou>	how to find the line matching 'blabla' at the end
nov. 14 19:49:59 <pango>	blabla$
nov. 14 19:50:03 <ptinou>	thx
nov. 14 19:53:26 <Dougie187>	grep is awesome.
nov. 14 19:53:37 <Dougie187>	grep + sed + awk = win. :P
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nov. 14 20:02:25 <ptinou>	pango:  commit :p
nov. 14 20:02:35 <Dougie187>	lenonk: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/vexorian-1817/
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nov. 14 20:15:41 <ptinou>	pango:  ça sert a quoi linuxtrack ?
nov. 14 20:17:02 <pango>	head tracking
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nov. 14 20:18:04 <ptinou>	?
nov. 14 20:18:09 <pango>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BduSDvUU6MY
nov. 14 20:18:33 <ptinou>	ah ouai
nov. 14 20:18:34 <pango>	(an example of head tracking, not linuxtrack)
nov. 14 20:18:35 <ptinou>	y'a ça sur ipad
nov. 14 20:19:06 <ptinou>	t'as vu ma modif ?
nov. 14 20:19:56 <pango>	I updated, but didn't check what you did yet
nov. 14 20:20:48 <pango>	package icons?
nov. 14 20:21:28 <pango>	How hard would it be to create an ie8 package from ie8 script?
nov. 14 20:22:15 <pango>	(for http://www.playonlinux.com/fr/topic-9703.html)
nov. 14 20:23:08 <ptinou>	hum hard :D
nov. 14 20:23:15 <ptinou>	not only package icon
nov. 14 20:23:18 <ptinou>	also package name
nov. 14 20:26:36 <pango>	ptinou: just have to do the same for the list that appears during manual installations :D
nov. 14 20:26:53 <ptinou>	later :p
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nov. 14 20:29:40 <pango>	Bonsoir Aymeric
nov. 14 20:29:47 <aplu>	bonsoir Pierre
nov. 14 20:38:42 <Dougie187>	Does Bonsoir mean hello?
nov. 14 20:38:55 <pango>	good evening
nov. 14 20:39:34 <Dougie187>	cool
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nov. 14 21:27:41 <lenonk>	Doug, you see the reply from Vexorian on WineHQ?
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nov. 14 21:33:25 <pau-pol>	hellooo
nov. 14 21:33:32 pango PasNox pau-pol 
nov. 14 21:33:34 <pango>	hi
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nov. 14 22:11:55 <Dougie187>	lenonk: yeah. Kind of disappointing. i thought he got the message today.
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nov. 14 22:24:31 <lenonk>	Doug:  So did I.  I opened another ticket and asked them to compare my case to his, though I doubt they'll read it
nov. 14 22:24:44 <Dougie187>	Same here
nov. 14 22:24:54 <Dougie187>	They just closed my last ticket with the same useless response actually.
nov. 14 22:25:01 <Dougie187>	So I opened a new one asking to compare with him
nov. 14 22:25:25 <Dougie187>	I asked him for his ticket numbers, and then maybe I'll try phone support after that
nov. 14 22:25:35 <lenonk>	yeah, I saw that
nov. 14 22:25:47 <lenonk>	Definitely let me know if you have any luck with phone support
nov. 14 22:25:58 <Dougie187>	I will
nov. 14 22:26:05 <Dougie187>	super frustrating though
nov. 14 22:26:46 <lenonk>	Yep.  I'm not going to stress too much over it though.  I just won't ever spend money with Blizzard again
nov. 14 22:27:26 <lenonk>	Actually, it doesn't really matter how this turns out, I'll still never spend money with them again.  They could have treated me like a human when I contacted them, then it would be ok
nov. 14 22:27:28 <Dougie187>	That's my plan unless then unban me
nov. 14 22:27:39 <Dougie187>	I agree, the treatment is terrible
nov. 14 22:27:42 <lenonk>	But after the way they treated all of us?  No way
nov. 14 22:27:58 <Dougie187>	I think it depends on how they treat me if they actually unban me
nov. 14 22:28:04 <Dougie187>	if they apologize I might
nov. 14 22:28:15 <Dougie187>	and then I'll submit a suggestion that they form a customer advocacy group
nov. 14 22:28:28 <Dougie187>	who is supposed to determine the truth of user claims regarding bugs and stuff like this
nov. 14 22:28:32 <lenonk>	Do you know they actually have an AH only ban?  They could have given us the benefit of the doubt and banned us from the AH only pending a more thorough investigation.
nov. 14 22:28:35 <lenonk>	I'd have been fine with that
nov. 14 22:28:46 <Dougie187>	I probably would have too
nov. 14 22:28:49 <Dougie187>	btu I don't know if they do
nov. 14 22:29:01 <lenonk>	They do, it's pretty clear on your battle.net account
nov. 14 22:29:04 <Dougie187>	Part of the problem is the account administration team deals with this crap
nov. 14 22:29:07 <Dougie187>	Oh ok
nov. 14 22:29:33 <Dougie187>	An the account administration team is totally biased, and doesn't really look at all of the information
nov. 14 22:29:39 <Dougie187>	so they need someone who will look at all the information
nov. 14 22:29:47 <Dougie187>	and try to determine the validity of a users claims.
nov. 14 22:30:06 <lenonk>	If you go there and click on D3, it'll say: Account Status: BANNED Diablo III Auction House: BANNED
nov. 14 22:30:24 <lenonk>	Truer words have rarely been spoken
nov. 14 22:31:47 <Dougie187>	I mean, the most frustrating part is it's 100% obvious from their responses that they didn't even read your ticket
nov. 14 22:32:13 <lenonk>	I know, that's what I've been complaining about for so long.  Like I said earlier...I had to trick them into reading it
nov. 14 22:32:51 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 14 22:38:31 <lenonk>	Crap man, every time my email dings I'm checking it now :P
nov. 14 22:38:45 <Dougie187>	lol me too
nov. 14 22:38:48 <Dougie187>	I've been doing that all day
nov. 14 22:40:03 <lenonk>	Also, I wish I could figure out why it's 10s of people getting banned and not 100s or 1000s
nov. 14 22:40:15 <Dougie187>	I think it's semi random
nov. 14 22:42:23 <lenonk>	Hmm...computers don't do random very well...I'm not saying it isn't, just that I have doubts
nov. 14 22:43:11 <Dougie187>	well, my hypothesis is that they don't scan everyones computer.
nov. 14 22:43:19 <Dougie187>	they scan a subset.
nov. 14 22:43:26 <lenonk>	Could be
nov. 14 22:43:29 <Dougie187>	so every ban wave you may or may not be checked for hacking
nov. 14 22:43:47 <Dougie187>	and out of that subset, only ~10s of linux users were checked, and all of them were banned
nov. 14 22:44:13 <lenonk>	That's a good theory
nov. 14 22:44:37 <lenonk>	Of course, without Blizzard's help it's unprovable
nov. 14 22:45:21 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 14 22:45:28 <Dougie187>	that's the only way I can think that this happened.
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nov. 14 22:46:13 <Dougie187>	How many people play the game, I mean it's something like 500k-1M right?
nov. 14 22:46:24 <Dougie187>	and lets say 40-60k are on linux at any given point in time
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nov. 14 22:46:43 <lenonk>	There doesn't seem to be an overarching pattern to the reports.  Of course, you have to consider, some of them may be trying to ride our coattails back to active status
nov. 14 22:46:54 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 14 22:47:04 <Dougie187>	which is probably going to make it harder to get unbanned. :(
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nov. 14 22:47:28 <lenonk>	If warden is as good as they say it is, it should be pretty obvious once they know what data to look for
nov. 14 22:47:42 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 14 22:47:57 <Dougie187>	I bet only some of the "Game masters" have the data, so you have to get lucky to get one who knows what's up
nov. 14 22:48:02 <lenonk>	I guess the real problem is they won't tell us why we were flagged, so even if you ban is lifted, if you play on Linux again, you'll probably just get banned again
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nov. 14 22:48:50 <Dougie187>	well, according to vexorian it's the setarch thing
nov. 14 22:49:08 <Dougie187>	so, if you run with setarch you don't have a problem.
nov. 14 22:49:10 <Dougie187>	I guess
nov. 14 22:50:06 <lenonk>	Well, yes, that supposedly stops Warden from crashing, and supposedly after the latest patch you don't need setarch anymore, but, I mean, no disrespect to him, but that's just his guess.  He doesn't know any more than we do, and they won't confirm it
nov. 14 22:50:18 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 14 22:51:22 <Dougie187>	what if the latest patch doesn't fix it though?
nov. 14 22:51:59 <lenonk>	Then we're screwed still, and they won't give us info to know.  You rolls the dice and you takes your chances
nov. 14 22:51:59 <Dougie187>	I don't even know how he can tell if warden crashed or not. :P
nov. 14 22:56:26 <lenonk>	Me mentioned some things in one of his posts on WineHQ
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nov. 14 22:56:32 <lenonk>	s/Me/He
nov. 14 22:56:34 <Dougie187>	hmm
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nov. 14 22:56:59 <lenonk>	Alright man, I'm out.  Talk to you later
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nov. 15 00:09:57 <jgfarnden-pol>	Hi there
nov. 15 00:10:37 <jgfarnden-pol>	So is anyone alive lol
nov. 15 00:14:32 <jgfarnden-pol>	So I'm just going to go ahead and ask
nov. 15 00:15:35 <jgfarnden-pol>	I have made a desktop shortcut and added it to the ubuntu 12.04 unity launcher it use to be that when I click on it it would load from that icon but now it loads a wine icon
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nov. 15 00:21:55 <jgfarnden-pol>	Hi there
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nov. 15 00:24:39 <egypt-pol>	hello
nov. 15 00:24:43 <jgfarnden-pol>	hi there
nov. 15 00:24:51 <egypt-pol>	i have a question !
nov. 15 00:25:24 <jgfarnden-pol>	hmm I do too
nov. 15 00:25:45 <egypt-pol>	hmmz , seems they are afk ..
nov. 15 00:25:56 <jgfarnden-pol>	Yea what's your problem
nov. 15 00:26:12 <egypt-pol>	everytime i try to run *silkroad* online game ,, i get an error msg ..
nov. 15 00:26:27 <jgfarnden-pol>	silk road?
nov. 15 00:26:37 <egypt-pol>	yea , its an online game...
nov. 15 00:27:43 <egypt-pol>	i guess u are now , checking that online game :p
nov. 15 00:29:00 <egypt-pol>	anyway , the error msg is * failed to initialize netengine error code(5 127) *
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nov. 15 03:05:48 <mvmnt-max>	hey guys is it possible to play bf3 with pol and wine?
nov. 15 03:07:20 <pango>	The AppDB rating is garbage: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=13626
nov. 15 03:09:37 <mvmnt-max>	hmm kk
nov. 15 03:13:11 <mvmnt-max>	so the appdb shows all the tested apps so far?
nov. 15 03:14:55 <pango>	it's the official repository of users tests with wine
nov. 15 03:15:03 <mvmnt-max>	kk
nov. 15 03:15:07 <mvmnt-max>	thanks
nov. 15 03:15:12 <pango>	np
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nov. 15 03:38:46 <sergio-pol>	hi!
nov. 15 03:41:24 <sergio-pol>	What's the better script for League of Legends?
nov. 15 03:43:59 <pango>	the official one?
nov. 15 03:44:17 <sergio-pol>	for fps?
nov. 15 03:44:42 <pango>	for fps I don't know
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nov. 15 08:23:04 <jagger-pol>	I am having a very strange consistant problem with League of Legends using PoL. When I launch it, sometimes it will be stuck "calculating differences" forever, and I have to close the launcher and relaunch over and over until the play button lights up
nov. 15 08:23:05 <jagger-pol>	any ideas?
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nov. 15 10:26:31 <noomz-pol>	Hi
nov. 15 10:26:41 <noomz-pol>	anyone successful to install ie6
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nov. 15 11:50:08 <aez-pol>	hello pol brothers :)
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nov. 15 14:38:07 <bri-pol>	what d fuk is dis?
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nov. 15 14:38:25 <ptinou>	bri-pol:  be polite please.
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nov. 15 14:41:18 <bri-pol>	What??? Sorry. Frustrated at trying to set up a DVB-t usb stick for 2 days now. Play on linux runs through the set up windows installer and then hangs at completeion. Every available DVB package for Ubuntu has been tried with NO result whatsoever so I am going to reboot into windows. Bye for now!!!
nov. 15 14:41:41 <ptinou>	Good for you.
nov. 15 14:42:15 <bri-pol>	Unles you have some suggestions!
nov. 15 14:42:41 <ptinou>	Nope, I havent
nov. 15 14:44:18 <aez-pol>	dudes need to relax
nov. 15 14:44:43 <aez-pol>	we all struggle to games running but its worth it when it gets done
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nov. 15 14:46:33 <aez-pol>	anyway i been playin with warhammer mark of chaos for the last 6 hrs
nov. 15 14:47:13 <aez-pol>	i got it to run smooth but it take forever to load each stage
nov. 15 14:47:47 <aez-pol>	i googled lines from log file but got nothing so far
nov. 15 14:48:21 <aez-pol>	watched a video on youtube ubuntu running game perfect
nov. 15 14:48:42 <aez-pol>	some setting im missing but cant figure it out yet
nov. 15 14:49:09 <ptinou>	sorry, I can't help you, I don't have all the games :p
nov. 15 14:49:40 <aez-pol>	its cool mate
nov. 15 14:50:28 <aez-pol>	if i figure it out il put what i did in the forums so the next person can find in a google search
nov. 15 14:50:40 <ptinou>	that's good :)
nov. 15 14:50:44 <ptinou>	you can also write a script if you want
nov. 15 14:51:02 <Marmotte>	ptinou: tu as vu les news d'hier pour diablo III ?
nov. 15 14:51:10 <Marmotte>	Vexorian a récup son compte
nov. 15 14:51:13 <ptinou>	ouai
nov. 15 14:51:34 <Marmotte>	apparemment, il a expliqué avoir trouvé un bug avec les OS en 64 bits
nov. 15 14:51:42 <Marmotte>	qui ferait crasher warden
nov. 15 14:51:52 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 15 14:52:02 <Marmotte>	mais comme Blizzard ne lui explique pas pourquoi ils ont levé le ban, ça ne donne pas grand chose pour les autres :(
nov. 15 14:52:14 <Marmotte>	(au fait, mes accents passent mieux, ou c'est toujours pas bon ?)
nov. 15 14:52:20 <ptinou>	toujours pas bon
nov. 15 14:52:25 <Marmotte>	pfff
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nov. 15 15:28:34 <Guest45227>	hi
nov. 15 15:28:58 <Guest45227>	can sum1 help me install skyrim i purchased from steam
nov. 15 15:29:03 <Guest45227>	im very frustrated lol
nov. 15 15:29:51 <Guest45227>	iim using ubuntu 12.10
nov. 15 15:30:59 <ptinou>	what is your problem ...
nov. 15 15:32:22 <FLHerne>	Guest45227: Are you using that beta-release Linux Steam client?
nov. 15 15:32:39 <ptinou>	FLHerne: No
nov. 15 15:32:57 <ptinou>	don't think that because there is a steam version of linux, all steam games will be compatible
nov. 15 15:33:00 <ptinou>	that's really not true
nov. 15 15:33:10 <FLHerne>	ptinou: I didn't say that :P
nov. 15 15:33:19 <ptinou>	Skyrim won't work on linux I think
nov. 15 15:33:27 <FLHerne>	I just asked if he was using it, as a prelude to saying what you just did ;-)
nov. 15 15:33:48 <ptinou>	skyrim won't work on linux
nov. 15 15:33:52 <FLHerne>	WINE/PoL might be an option though, I guess
nov. 15 15:33:55 <ptinou>	because it does not work on mac
nov. 15 15:34:36 <FLHerne>	ptinou: No OpenGL support? :-(
nov. 15 15:34:47 <ptinou>	noe
nov. 15 15:34:49 <ptinou>	nope
nov. 15 15:34:56 <ptinou>	in fact, only few games are compatible
nov. 15 15:34:59 <FLHerne>	ptinou: PoL has an install script for it...
nov. 15 15:35:09 <FLHerne>	Someone's wrong, at any rate
nov. 15 15:35:22 <Guest45227>	umm
nov. 15 15:35:39 <ptinou>	FLHerne:  I know that
nov. 15 15:35:40 <Guest45227>	im using the steam client that POL instlaled
nov. 15 15:35:44 <ptinou>	but if Guest45227 could give more details
nov. 15 15:35:51 <FLHerne>	ptinou: Don't forget WINE can emulate DX9 and some of DX10
nov. 15 15:35:56 <Guest45227>	what do u need
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nov. 15 15:36:03 <ptinou>	FLHerne: I'm the creator of POL, so I know it :p
nov. 15 15:36:07 <Guest45227>	wow
nov. 15 15:36:14 <ptinou>	Guest45227: What is your problem ?
nov. 15 15:36:15 <Guest45227>	pleasure to meet u sir
nov. 15 15:36:21 <FLHerne>	ptinou: You should have said earlier :P
nov. 15 15:36:21 <Guest45227>	where do i start
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nov. 15 15:36:28 <Guest45227>	im using ubuntu 12.10
nov. 15 15:36:35 <FLHerne>	ptinou: ? http://www.playonlinux.com/en/commentaires-1047.html
nov. 15 15:36:48 <ptinou>	yup
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nov. 15 15:36:55 <Guest45227>	i installed skyrim via the program
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nov. 15 15:37:16 <Guest45227>	it made a skyrim virtual disc and sshortcut to skyrim and steam
nov. 15 15:37:19 <usuario-pol>	is new
nov. 15 15:37:28 <ptinou>	How?
nov. 15 15:37:30 <Guest45227>	i bought skyrim on steam previously
nov. 15 15:37:31 <ptinou>	How did you install
nov. 15 15:37:37 <Guest45227>	thru the GUI
nov. 15 15:37:40 <ptinou>	ok
nov. 15 15:37:43 <Guest45227>	wizard
nov. 15 15:37:44 <ptinou>	then?
nov. 15 15:38:00 <Guest45227>	well it had some errors on dotnet installing but it continued setup and i read on winehq to ignore those issues
nov. 15 15:38:07 <usuario-pol>	fuck yuo
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nov. 15 15:38:11 <Guest45227>	then i successfully downloaded the entire game
nov. 15 15:38:32 <Guest45227>	and then i closed steam as it said i should
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nov. 15 15:38:42 <Guest45227>	and then as it should have continued installation,
nov. 15 15:38:46 <Guest45227>	POL gave error:
nov. 15 15:38:49 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 15 15:38:51 <ptinou>	normal
nov. 15 15:38:52 <Guest45227>	encountered an error forced to quit
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nov. 15 15:38:55 <Guest45227>	i am SO confused
nov. 15 15:38:59 <ptinou>	and when you run it ?
nov. 15 15:39:00 <Guest45227>	as to why it would tell me this
nov. 15 15:39:03 <Guest45227>	ok let me try:
nov. 15 15:39:20 <Guest45227>	it sais preparing to launch steam etc
nov. 15 15:39:26 <Guest45227>	then thatts done and it says
nov. 15 15:39:30 <Guest45227>	Wine program crash
nov. 15 15:39:38 <Guest45227>	Internal errors - invalid parameters received
nov. 15 15:39:59 <ptinou>	ok
nov. 15 15:40:07 <ptinou>	skyrim support seems to be broken
nov. 15 15:40:13 <ptinou>	because dotnet is broken
nov. 15 15:40:24 <Guest45227>	well it seems im in the right place to get it fixed lol
nov. 15 15:40:32 <ptinou>	the problem
nov. 15 15:40:34 <ptinou>	is that I don't have the game
nov. 15 15:40:38 <ptinou>	so I cannot fix it
nov. 15 15:40:44 <Guest45227>	do u have a game capable machine
nov. 15 15:40:51 <ptinou>	I have a mac
nov. 15 15:40:59 <ptinou>	so it should be capable
nov. 15 15:41:00 <Guest45227>	i will buy u the game if u can fix it
nov. 15 15:41:07 <ptinou>	the problem is that
nov. 15 15:41:08 <Guest45227>	i really want to play this game lol
nov. 15 15:41:13 <ptinou>	I cannot garantee I will be able before trying
nov. 15 15:41:16 <ptinou>	you understand
nov. 15 15:41:18 <Guest45227>	thats ok
nov. 15 15:41:32 <Guest45227>	how long do u think it will take for u to fix it if u can
nov. 15 15:41:40 <ptinou>	What is the game size ?
nov. 15 15:41:47 <Guest45227>	i need osmething to do at work lol
nov. 15 15:41:56 <Guest45227>	steam said it needed about 8GB of spcae
nov. 15 15:41:58 <Guest45227>	space*
nov. 15 15:42:05 <Guest45227>	this is a very modern game if ur not familiar
nov. 15 15:42:15 <ptinou>	would you redownload it?
nov. 15 15:42:17 <Guest45227>	but its not as graphic intensive as most i think
nov. 15 15:42:21 <Guest45227>	yea i cna do that
nov. 15 15:42:25 <ptinou>	not yet
nov. 15 15:42:25 <Guest45227>	i have like 20mbps
nov. 15 15:42:29 <ptinou>	I need to do some corrections
nov. 15 15:42:29 <Guest45227>	or 25
nov. 15 15:42:34 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 15:42:42 <ptinou>	try to get rid of dotnet
nov. 15 15:42:47 <Guest45227>	i will buy u the game as a gift if u can just fix it lol
nov. 15 15:43:02 <Guest45227>	should i just uninstall the virtual drive
nov. 15 15:43:07 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 15 15:43:09 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 15:43:59 <Guest45227>	i did that
nov. 15 15:44:05 <ptinou>	wait for a moment please
nov. 15 15:44:07 <Guest45227>	ok
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nov. 15 15:45:35 <Guest45227>	im going to make this chatroom auto join could be useful
nov. 15 15:46:28 <ptinou>	Ok
nov. 15 15:46:33 <ptinou>	I will give you a minimal script
nov. 15 15:46:36 <ptinou>	see if it's better
nov. 15 15:46:41 <Guest45227>	cools
nov. 15 15:46:42 <ptinou>	then if it crash, we will change some things
nov. 15 15:46:59 <Guest45227>	thats fine
nov. 15 15:47:08 <Guest45227>	whatever i can do to help u help us skyrim players
nov. 15 15:47:19 <ptinou>	http://pastebin.com/QpbK0tAb
nov. 15 15:47:41 <Guest45227>	how do i use it
nov. 15 15:48:08 <Guest45227>	do i put it sumwhere
nov. 15 15:48:44 <ptinou>	what is you distrib ?
nov. 15 15:48:51 <Guest45227>	ubuntu 12.10
nov. 15 15:48:54 <Guest45227>	do i click "run a local script"
nov. 15 15:49:00 <ptinou>	yeah it will be ok
nov. 15 15:49:43 <Guest45227>	ok im doing that
nov. 15 15:50:11 <Guest45227>	ok its on the setuop screen now
nov. 15 15:50:33 <Guest45227>	its downloading wine 1.5.10
nov. 15 15:50:36 <ptinou>	tes
nov. 15 15:50:37 <ptinou>	ye
nov. 15 15:50:40 <ptinou>	yes *
nov. 15 15:50:57 <Guest45227>	extracting wine etc etc
nov. 15 15:51:36 <Guest45227>	ok it said wine could not find a Mono package which is needed for .NET applicationst o work correctly
nov. 15 15:51:44 <Guest45227>	Wine can automaticaly download and install for u
nov. 15 15:51:50 <Guest45227>	ilgo ahead and hit install i assume
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nov. 15 15:52:11 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 15 15:52:16 <ptinou>	install
nov. 15 15:52:26 <Guest45227>	yeah i did that its doing more loading
nov. 15 15:52:38 <Guest45227>	ok im at the choice : use dvd roms or steam store version
nov. 15 15:52:45 <Guest45227>	i have the steam store version so il go ahead with taht yea
nov. 15 15:52:48 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 15 15:52:54 <Guest45227>	ok ofcourse
nov. 15 15:53:05 <Guest45227>	o man cant wait to game when im at work LOL
nov. 15 15:53:22 <Guest45227>	hopefully
nov. 15 15:53:56 <Guest45227>	no offense in any way to u sir but i cant believe the POL dev doest have skyrim thats a big deal LOL
nov. 15 15:54:14 <Guest45227>	ok its updating steam
nov. 15 15:54:17 <ptinou>	we support about 500 programs
nov. 15 15:54:22 <Guest45227>	holy smokes
nov. 15 15:54:29 <ptinou>	if each program cost 1€, it is 500€
nov. 15 15:54:38 <ptinou>	it is 10€, it's 5000 ...
nov. 15 15:54:39 <Guest45227>	true that
nov. 15 15:54:43 <ptinou>	imagine if you put the real price
nov. 15 15:54:55 <ptinou>	something like 60€ average, let alone scripts like Office 2010
nov. 15 15:55:00 <Guest45227>	strangely the font is not on the steam login screen buttons
nov. 15 15:55:17 <Guest45227>	so im going to have to guess one lol
nov. 15 15:55:24 <ptinou>	interesting
nov. 15 15:55:42 <Guest45227>	im using google image to find a screenshot hopefully
nov. 15 15:55:56 <Guest45227>	its where u pick forgot or login or register
nov. 15 15:55:57 <ptinou>	cancel everything
nov. 15 15:56:00 <ptinou>	remove the prefix
nov. 15 15:56:05 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 15:56:12 <Guest45227>	what prefix
nov. 15 15:56:16 <ptinou>	the virtual drive
nov. 15 15:56:19 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 15:56:28 <Guest45227>	done
nov. 15 15:56:40 <Guest45227>	steam did seem to be moving along fine just didnt have font on the initial buttons LOL
nov. 15 15:56:42 <ptinou>	Did you install microsoft fonts ?
nov. 15 15:56:45 <Guest45227>	no
nov. 15 15:56:48 <Guest45227>	ive instaled NOTHING
nov. 15 15:56:55 <Guest45227>	just what we're going thru
nov. 15 15:56:57 <ptinou>	remove your .playonlinux folder
nov. 15 15:56:58 <ptinou>	and retry
nov. 15 15:57:03 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 15:58:00 <Guest45227>	i removed it
nov. 15 15:58:11 <Guest45227>	do u want to help playonlinux make a compatibility databse
nov. 15 15:58:24 <ptinou>	as you want
nov. 15 15:58:24 <Guest45227>	if i go ahead cnd click yes that may be good lol
nov. 15 15:58:27 <Guest45227>	am i right
nov. 15 15:58:34 <ptinou>	it is up to you here
nov. 15 15:58:40 <Guest45227>	well i hit yes
nov. 15 15:58:56 <Guest45227>	so u have my data unless thats a hassle to see
nov. 15 15:59:03 <Guest45227>	system info whatever
nov. 15 15:59:08 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 15 15:59:09 <ptinou>	it can help
nov. 15 15:59:11 <Guest45227>	ok i got that wizard POL first use
nov. 15 15:59:21 <Guest45227>	i forget this wizard
nov. 15 15:59:25 <Guest45227>	shoudl i go thru it
nov. 15 15:59:29 <ptinou>	it helps us to see if something is wrong on computer when user come to get help
nov. 15 15:59:33 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 15 15:59:35 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 15:59:51 <Guest45227>	ok its installing MS Fonts
nov. 15 15:59:56 <Guest45227>	if it did or didnt do that before, i forgot lol
nov. 15 16:00:06 <Guest45227>	(been messing with this a few days)
nov. 15 16:00:17 <Guest45227>	(by that i mean trying to install)
nov. 15 16:00:23 <Guest45227>	(skyrim)
nov. 15 16:00:37 <Guest45227>	OK thats done
nov. 15 16:00:41 <Guest45227>	installed my ms fonts
nov. 15 16:00:45 <Guest45227>	should i run the script again
nov. 15 16:01:10 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 15 16:01:22 <Guest45227>	roger that
nov. 15 16:02:04 <Guest45227>	ok im going thru the install again
nov. 15 16:04:33 <Guest45227>	downloading directx , etc
nov. 15 16:04:56 <Guest45227>	im impressed by how this program works almost anyway lol
nov. 15 16:05:01 <Guest45227>	(POL)
nov. 15 16:05:20 <Guest45227>	hopefully will never have to use windows again
nov. 15 16:05:31 <Guest45227>	i only use windows for pc games
nov. 15 16:06:08 <Guest45227>	ok updating steam
nov. 15 16:06:35 <Guest45227>	strange
nov. 15 16:06:41 <Guest45227>	still dont have fonts
nov. 15 16:06:43 <Guest45227>	do u want a screenshot?
nov. 15 16:07:03 <ptinou>	yes it can help
nov. 15 16:07:23 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 16:07:29 <Guest45227>	how d do u want me to send it to u
nov. 15 16:07:37 <ptinou>	also I want you to give me the list of the files in ~/.playonlinux/wineprefix/Skyrim/drive_c/windows/fonts
nov. 15 16:07:58 <Guest45227>	ok let me check
nov. 15 16:09:17 <Guest45227>	i tried to send u file with irc
nov. 15 16:09:22 <Guest45227>	(screenshot)
nov. 15 16:09:25 <ptinou>	that won't work
nov. 15 16:09:27 <Guest45227>	do u want me to post on internet
nov. 15 16:09:30 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 16:09:31 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 15 16:09:39 <Guest45227>	havnt doen that in a bit 1 sec
nov. 15 16:10:27 <Guest45227>	http://postimage.org/image/p74oww593/
nov. 15 16:10:45 <ptinou>	ok, we will fix that later
nov. 15 16:11:04 <Guest45227>	http://s7.postimage.org/r7mn8hs7v/Screenshot_from_2012_11_15_10_09_02.png
nov. 15 16:11:07 <Guest45227>	those are my fonts
nov. 15 16:11:21 <ptinou>	seems to be ok
nov. 15 16:11:25 <ptinou>	we will try to fix that later
nov. 15 16:11:46 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 16:11:52 <Guest45227>	which button to press LOL
nov. 15 16:12:10 <ptinou>	try to see on google
nov. 15 16:12:34 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 16:14:25 <Guest45227>	im just going to geuss a butjton
nov. 15 16:14:56 <Guest45227>	ok im gettijng lucky
nov. 15 16:15:11 <Guest45227>	it was the 3rd button
nov. 15 16:16:42 <Guest45227>	ok i THINK it said i was good to go
nov. 15 16:16:46 <Guest45227>	(logging into Steam)
nov. 15 16:17:03 <Guest45227>	yes
nov. 15 16:17:09 <ptinou>	that's normal, I removed dotnet ...
nov. 15 16:17:18 <Guest45227>	ok im logged in
nov. 15 16:18:25 <Guest45227>	http://s17.postimage.org/7agpzdh3j/Screenshot_from_2012_11_15_10_17_56.png
nov. 15 16:18:32 <Guest45227>	dont know what to do atm
nov. 15 16:18:51 <Guest45227>	i assume i need to download the game via Steam
nov. 15 16:18:54 <Guest45227>	ll
nov. 15 16:18:55 <Guest45227>	lol
nov. 15 16:19:15 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 15 16:19:28 <Guest45227>	hm
nov. 15 16:19:42 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 16:19:43 <Guest45227>	i did it again
nov. 15 16:19:53 <Guest45227>	right clicked on the first empty space which i remember was skyrim lol
nov. 15 16:19:58 <Guest45227>	clicked the first blank space
nov. 15 16:20:02 <Guest45227>	i think its downloading now
nov. 15 16:20:12 <Guest45227>	il check the steamapps folder
nov. 15 16:21:30 <Guest45227>	http://s10.postimage.org/5d1ceqbx5/Screenshot_from_2012_11_15_10_20_53.png
nov. 15 16:21:31 <Guest45227>	lol
nov. 15 16:22:28 <ptinou>	that's weird
nov. 15 16:22:45 <Guest45227>	i thought so too lol
nov. 15 16:23:07 <Guest45227>	LOL
nov. 15 16:23:12 <Guest45227>	im downloadin now
nov. 15 16:23:15 <Guest45227>	(it was preparing)
nov. 15 16:24:19 <Guest45227>	http://s10.postimage.org/xspwjig2h/Screenshot_from_2012_11_15_10_23_42.png
nov. 15 16:24:32 <Guest45227>	that blue filling bar on the bottom is the download process for Skyrim
nov. 15 16:24:51 <ptinou>	when it is finish, close steam
nov. 15 16:24:58 <Guest45227>	yea will do
nov. 15 16:25:22 <Guest45227>	i checked the Downloading in the steam apps folder
nov. 15 16:25:28 <Guest45227>	its skyrim so i got lucky pressing those blank spaces
nov. 15 16:30:02 <Guest45227>	im about 20% done id say
nov. 15 16:30:28 <ptinou>	good
nov. 15 16:30:31 <Guest45227>	its like 8 GB and i have a 25mb/s connection so it will be a shortwhile
nov. 15 16:30:46 <Guest45227>	not all afternoonbut not any second now lol
nov. 15 16:31:09 <Guest45227>	i would guess 10 or 20 minutes
nov. 15 16:31:19 <Guest45227>	thank u for being so helpful
nov. 15 16:31:29 <Guest45227>	i have gotten this far before,
nov. 15 16:31:36 <Guest45227>	hopefully u can figure it out lol
nov. 15 16:31:59 <Guest45227>	(after this download is where i am stuck)
nov. 15 16:32:16 <Guest45227>	i would close steam completely as per the instruction in the wizard,
nov. 15 16:32:23 <Guest45227>	(exit in steam file menu)
nov. 15 16:32:35 <Guest45227>	and htne it would start to proceed and say encountered error forced to quit
nov. 15 16:32:52 <Guest45227>	(however im not there yet this time il let u know when its done downloading)
nov. 15 16:33:47 <Guest45227>	ptinou i am curious if u have played skyrim
nov. 15 16:34:03 <ptinou>	I did'nt
nov. 15 16:34:04 <Guest45227>	(linux or otherwise xbox etc)
nov. 15 16:34:06 <ptinou>	I don't have the game
nov. 15 16:34:12 <Guest45227>	i assume u game tho
nov. 15 16:34:17 <ptinou>	not so much
nov. 15 16:35:00 <Guest45227>	u created POL so i will buy u skyrim if u would use it
nov. 15 16:35:29 <Guest45227>	not sure how to buy it i would prefer getting u tue steamy version so u can help all those people who buy it on steam
nov. 15 16:35:41 <Guest45227>	the*
nov. 15 16:35:48 <ptinou>	for the moment, let see if it works for you
nov. 15 16:35:51 <ptinou>	:)
nov. 15 16:35:51 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 16:35:59 <Guest45227>	that is a fair deal
nov. 15 16:36:14 <Guest45227>	i am using a ux32vd asus zenbook laptop
nov. 15 16:36:18 <FLHerne>	Guest45227: Don't forget that 'He said on an anonymous webchat channel' isn't very good proof of identity ;-)
nov. 15 16:36:23 *	FLHerne is a bit paranoid
nov. 15 16:36:25 <Guest45227>	lol
nov. 15 16:37:27 <Guest45227>	guys my bank acct# info :
nov. 15 16:37:32 <Guest45227>	just kidding LOL
nov. 15 16:38:01 <Guest45227>	but no i wuld be proud to donate if it could work as i learned on Google lol
nov. 15 16:38:37 <ptinou>	FLHerne: do you want a proof ?
nov. 15 16:38:42 <Guest45227>	playing SKyrim on linux is a patriotic endeavor short only of moon landings and similar events
nov. 15 16:38:58 <Guest45227>	it is an important advancement in humankind
nov. 15 16:39:04 <ptinou>	FLHerne:  look at my ip adresse on whois
nov. 15 16:39:08 <ptinou>	and compare it to pol.com ip adress
nov. 15 16:39:15 <FLHerne>	ptinou: Wouldn't mind some, but I'm not seriously disputing it ;-)
nov. 15 16:39:24 <Guest45227>	i think he is trying to help me out lol
nov. 15 16:39:34 <Guest45227>	but its called a leap of faith
nov. 15 16:39:45 <Guest45227>	something i rarely take, except when im driving
nov. 15 16:40:04 <Guest45227>	or drinking and driving
nov. 15 16:40:28 <Guest45227>	just kidding thats not a leap of faith
nov. 15 16:40:37 <ptinou>	dig AAAA playonlinux.com | grep AAAA
nov. 15 16:40:42 <ptinou>	playonlinux.com.	5330	IN	AAAA	2001:41d0:1:5840::1
nov. 15 16:40:47 <ptinou>	User : ~qparis@2001:41d0:1:5840::1
nov. 15 16:41:04 <ptinou>	it means that I'm talking from playonlinux server right now
nov. 15 16:41:24 <Guest45227>	i see that ptinou posted some seemingly legit info lol
nov. 15 16:41:55 <Guest45227>	but do u even know ur own parents lol
nov. 15 16:42:01 <ptinou>	?
nov. 15 16:42:05 <Guest45227>	who can u really trust in this world
nov. 15 16:42:09 <Guest45227>	im just joking
nov. 15 16:42:13 <ptinou>	:p
nov. 15 16:42:22 <Guest45227>	u can only REALLY trust urself
nov. 15 16:42:42 <Marmotte>	O_o
nov. 15 16:43:01 <Guest45227>	words to live by, from the POL chatroom
nov. 15 16:43:12 <Guest45227>	lol
nov. 15 16:43:13 <FLHerne>	Guest45227: Who says you can trust yourself? Self-deception can be quite convincing :P
nov. 15 16:43:21 <Guest45227>	oh ur right
nov. 15 16:43:31 <Guest45227>	i tell myself il get shit done
nov. 15 16:43:48 <Guest45227>	and well my work is never done it seems
nov. 15 16:44:20 <Guest45227>	i work 7 days a week
nov. 15 16:44:29 <Guest45227>	(i have a small business)
nov. 15 16:44:44 <Guest45227>	i have 2 days off fortunately today and tomorrow
nov. 15 16:44:50 <Guest45227>	in a few months
nov. 15 16:44:55 <Guest45227>	well like 2 or 3
nov. 15 16:45:03 <Guest45227>	now i am decieving myself on a daily basis
nov. 15 16:45:12 <Guest45227>	lol
nov. 15 16:45:40 <Guest45227>	o man i bought some engine parts from a guy on the itnernet
nov. 15 16:45:41 <Guest45227>	for my old car
nov. 15 16:45:49 <Guest45227>	i was so happy it actually showed up LOL
nov. 15 16:46:15 <Guest45227>	i gave a random person off a search engine 300$ and i didnt realize how awesome it is that it actually showed up
nov. 15 16:46:40 <Guest45227>	until it did
nov. 15 16:46:52 <Guest45227>	ptinou im like 60% done downloading
nov. 15 16:46:58 <ptinou>	good
nov. 15 16:47:25 <Guest45227>	ptinous ur good peoples im curious what region of the planet are u on
nov. 15 16:47:30 <ptinou>	france
nov. 15 16:47:40 <Guest45227>	du u live in the city paris
nov. 15 16:47:58 <ptinou>	right now, yes
nov. 15 16:48:01 <ptinou>	(nearly)
nov. 15 16:48:14 <Guest45227>	is it as trendy and exciting etc as its made out to be in the hollywood
nov. 15 16:48:21 <Guest45227>	(and also dangerous)
nov. 15 16:48:27 <ptinou>	dangerous ?!
nov. 15 16:48:35 <Guest45227>	yea lots of action movies are in france
nov. 15 16:48:40 <ptinou>	>.<
nov. 15 16:48:40 <Guest45227>	like transporter taken etc i think
nov. 15 16:49:00 <Guest45227>	im in DC its one dangerous place
nov. 15 16:49:23 <Guest45227>	if u exit DC border south
nov. 15 16:49:26 <Guest45227>	into virginia
nov. 15 16:49:40 <Guest45227>	the murder rate goes from 100something per 100 thousand people down to 4
nov. 15 16:49:52 <Guest45227>	its really intense lol
nov. 15 16:49:55 <Guest45227>	the difference
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nov. 15 16:50:11 <isabella-pol>	ola
nov. 15 16:50:14 <Guest45227>	hello
nov. 15 16:50:16 <ptinou>	hi
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nov. 15 16:51:00 <Guest45227>	id say i have 33 percent left
nov. 15 16:51:11 <FLHerne>	Guest45227: I'm in Cambridge, UK - not dangerous at all, except for bicycles :D
nov. 15 16:51:50 <Guest45227>	i hear constantly (not from the TV however) that london is a very dangerous place
nov. 15 16:52:02 <Guest45227>	less guns but very high violent crimes rate
nov. 15 16:52:05 <Guest45227>	is that so
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nov. 15 16:54:08 <Guest45227>	based on what ive heard of crime in LONDON (as well as norway, mexico city, etc), and compared to switzerland and some american cities, i like to think that gun laws are only one factor in availability and also only one factor in many reasons for violent crimes
nov. 15 16:54:22 <Guest45227>	what do u think over there in cambridge
nov. 15 16:54:51 <Guest45227>	ive never been to england except the airport lol
nov. 15 16:55:34 <Guest45227>	i mean basically just saying i heard london is dangerous
nov. 15 16:56:01 <Guest45227>	like DC except we have more guns lol
nov. 15 16:56:24 <Guest45227>	but what sucks about DC is citizens cant carry guns
nov. 15 16:56:30 <Guest45227>	but the criminals do
nov. 15 16:57:05 <Guest45227>	right acros the border u can carry a gun and there js exponentiallyl lower crime
nov. 15 16:57:32 <Guest45227>	im just curious what u think about that lol
nov. 15 16:57:41 <Guest45227>	(in cambridge)
nov. 15 16:57:51 <Guest45227>	or france
nov. 15 16:57:56 <ptinou>	:p
nov. 15 16:57:59 <Guest45227>	u guys agree or no
nov. 15 16:58:34 <Guest45227>	i just feel sorry for u guys disarmed
nov. 15 16:58:40 <Guest45227>	LOL
nov. 15 16:58:41 <ptinou>	In france, gun are not allowed and I'm happy with that
nov. 15 16:58:54 <Guest45227>	arent u afraid of being robbed or stabbed or etc
nov. 15 16:59:04 <Guest45227>	or someone got a gun becus if ur determined u can get 1...
nov. 15 16:59:10 <FLHerne>	Guest45227: No-one owns a gun, so you can't be shot with them :-)
nov. 15 16:59:31 <Guest45227>	same happened in norway
nov. 15 16:59:40 <Guest45227>	with that mass shooter guy
nov. 15 16:59:56 <Guest45227>	arent u afraid of being completely defenseless in a situation like that lol
nov. 15 16:59:56 <FLHerne>	That was a shame, but not exactly typical
nov. 15 17:00:01 <Guest45227>	true
nov. 15 17:00:34 <Guest45227>	happens a lot in DC chicago, and  DETROIT especially
nov. 15 17:00:40 <Guest45227>	just not on such a scale
nov. 15 17:00:57 <Guest45227>	however it only happens in areas of america where they make guns illegal to carry
nov. 15 17:01:16 <Guest45227>	anywhere guns are legal its always exponentially safer but the TV is way against it lol
nov. 15 17:01:26 <Guest45227>	i.e. Seattle
nov. 15 17:01:27 <FLHerne>	No, because I know almost for certain that I won't be shot at. I'd be a lot more worried if I knew there were actually criminals with guns :-/
nov. 15 17:01:41 <Guest45227>	yea but they have knives
nov. 15 17:01:46 <Guest45227>	and SOME of them will get guns
nov. 15 17:01:47 <FLHerne>	To me, US gun laws seem insane
nov. 15 17:02:03 <Guest45227>	i like it
nov. 15 17:02:03 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 15 17:02:19 <Guest45227>	our gun laws are great because if u go crazy in a pro-gun area u will be shot down
nov. 15 17:02:26 <FLHerne>	Guest45227: There are so few guns in the country, and what there is is very carefully licensed
nov. 15 17:02:30 <ptinou>	even more insane that it is in US institution
nov. 15 17:02:30 <Guest45227>	but if u go crazy in a anti gun area even with a knife
nov. 15 17:02:32 <FLHerne>	Guest45227: Atlanta?
nov. 15 17:02:50 <Guest45227>	i waspointing out earliest this
nov. 15 17:02:56 <Guest45227>	that gun laws are only one factor
nov. 15 17:03:10 <Guest45227>	but id say 90% of places are multiple times safer
nov. 15 17:03:13 <Guest45227>	i shouldnt have said 100%
nov. 15 17:03:26 <Guest45227>	hotlanta is a bad place lol
nov. 15 17:03:35 <Guest45227>	so is richmond
nov. 15 17:03:35 <FLHerne>	Guest45227: It's a lot easier to run away from people with knives. The police here have stab vests, anyway
nov. 15 17:03:41 <Guest45227>	LOL
nov. 15 17:03:52 <Guest45227>	u think so? what if hes FAST
nov. 15 17:04:02 <Guest45227>	there is a 50% chance ui are faster than him
nov. 15 17:04:09 <Guest45227>	roughly
nov. 15 17:04:17 <FLHerne>	Some nutters wanted to arm the police after a couple of officers got shot dead a few months ago. Turns out 80% think that's a bad idea
nov. 15 17:04:18 <Guest45227>	so u will fight or FLEE
nov. 15 17:04:39 <Guest45227>	i think it makes sense
nov. 15 17:04:57 <Guest45227>	how could it make sense  reverse lol
nov. 15 17:04:59 <FLHerne>	How many knife-wielding loons do you think we have anyway?
nov. 15 17:05:09 <Guest45227>	a lot more than wher ei live LOL
nov. 15 17:05:21 <Guest45227>	we have reverse i think
nov. 15 17:05:40 <FLHerne>	I doubt that :P
nov. 15 17:05:50 <Guest45227>	most of america seems to have less violent crimes overall i think, but a lot more gun related crimes
nov. 15 17:06:00 <Guest45227>	but we have some of the WORST cities
nov. 15 17:06:00 <FLHerne>	Anyway, would you feel comfortable with the police if you knew they had gins?
nov. 15 17:06:11 <Guest45227>	only if the poeple can have guns
nov. 15 17:06:17 <Guest45227>	if the people cant have guns, HELL NO
nov. 15 17:06:20 <FLHerne>	Guns, even. Gins aren't threatening :P
nov. 15 17:06:22 <ptinou>	FLHerne: they have guns
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nov. 15 17:06:35 <FLHerne>	ptinou: Only a few specialist units here
nov. 15 17:06:40 <ptinou>	not here
nov. 15 17:06:50 <Guest45227>	but people try to kill eachother in france
nov. 15 17:06:54 <Guest45227>	and in england
nov. 15 17:06:58 <Guest45227>	tahts a scientific fact
nov. 15 17:07:01 <Guest45227>	u dont want to defend urself?
nov. 15 17:07:02 <ptinou>	that's false :p
nov. 15 17:07:05 <Guest45227>	LOL
nov. 15 17:07:19 <Guest45227>	ok it just finished downloading
nov. 15 17:07:23 <ptinou>	I think that you watch to much series ;)
nov. 15 17:07:25 <FLHerne>	We haeve a bit more knife crime, and a lot less gun crime. I personally think that's a good tradeoff
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nov. 15 17:07:26 <ptinou>	how is it going ?
nov. 15 17:07:47 <Guest45227>	well thats what i said lol
nov. 15 17:07:53 <Guest45227>	but dont u have A LOT more knife crime
nov. 15 17:08:02 <FLHerne>	Not really, no
nov. 15 17:08:07 <Guest45227>	i heard londo ntheres stabbings all the time
nov. 15 17:08:15 <Guest45227>	ul get shanked lol
nov. 15 17:08:30 <Guest45227>	ptinou imgoing to close the steam
nov. 15 17:08:38 <Guest45227>	since download is done?
nov. 15 17:08:47 <FLHerne>	As anywhere, there are a few places (inner-city mostly) with high crime ratees. Those aren't exactly representative though
nov. 15 17:08:50 <ptinou>	close steam
nov. 15 17:09:01 <Guest45227>	ok closed
nov. 15 17:09:14 <Guest45227>	its not continuing installation
nov. 15 17:09:21 <Guest45227>	i think its because of ur script
nov. 15 17:09:31 <Guest45227>	(but i assume its installed)
nov. 15 17:09:33 <Guest45227>	?
nov. 15 17:10:05 <Guest45227>	what should i do now, attempt to run it?
nov. 15 17:10:30 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 15 17:10:47 <Guest45227>	1 question
nov. 15 17:10:52 <Guest45227>	nvm
nov. 15 17:11:09 <Guest45227>	i used the desktop shortcut
nov. 15 17:11:27 <Guest45227>	dont think it matters
nov. 15 17:11:46 <ptinou>	it's should not matter
nov. 15 17:13:10 <Guest45227>	http://s9.postimage.org/qnpcj7nbj/Screenshot_from_2012_11_15_11_12_28.png
nov. 15 17:13:26 <Guest45227>	this is as far as i could get and where i get stuck
nov. 15 17:13:31 <Guest45227>	that ad pops up
nov. 15 17:13:41 <Guest45227>	and i also get this error (right before the ad pops up or finishes loading)
nov. 15 17:14:02 <ptinou>	click on configure
nov. 15 17:14:05 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 17:14:15 <ptinou>	remove argument in the text field
nov. 15 17:14:19 <ptinou>	and run steam again
nov. 15 17:14:24 <ptinou>	try to find skyrim and run it manually
nov. 15 17:15:08 <Guest45227>	u mean erase the arguments text boxz?
nov. 15 17:15:21 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 15 17:15:38 <Guest45227>	ok so how do i run it manualy
nov. 15 17:15:41 <Guest45227>	i knlw where its installed
nov. 15 17:15:51 <Guest45227>	know*
nov. 15 17:16:00 <Guest45227>	if that helps
nov. 15 17:16:25 <ptinou>	run steam
nov. 15 17:16:36 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 17:16:52 <Guest45227>	i double clicked its area in steam
nov. 15 17:17:33 <Guest45227>	http://postimage.org/image/6jx39wp0t/
nov. 15 17:17:47 <ptinou>	ok
nov. 15 17:18:00 <ptinou>	put back the argument
nov. 15 17:18:04 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 17:18:12 <Guest45227>	i took a shot of it let me find it and do that
nov. 15 17:19:18 <Guest45227>	i put it back
nov. 15 17:19:19 <Guest45227>	steam://rungameid/72850
nov. 15 17:19:23 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 15 17:19:31 <ptinou>	now open a terminal
nov. 15 17:19:48 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 17:19:59 <Guest45227>	i closed steam
nov. 15 17:20:06 <Guest45227>	(exited thru file)
nov. 15 17:20:09 <ptinou>	and type
nov. 15 17:20:09 <ptinou>	echo 0|sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope
nov. 15 17:20:37 <Guest45227>	it said 0
nov. 15 17:21:04 <Guest45227>	is that an answer u can use
nov. 15 17:21:18 <ptinou>	retry now
nov. 15 17:21:25 <Guest45227>	0
nov. 15 17:21:44 <ptinou>	to run skyrim ...
nov. 15 17:21:54 <Guest45227>	http://s18.postimage.org/6p7a30ruh/Screenshot_from_2012_11_15_11_21_34.png
nov. 15 17:21:58 <Guest45227>	is that what u mean
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nov. 15 17:22:47 <ptinou>	retry to run skyrim
nov. 15 17:23:02 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 17:23:13 <Guest45227>	got confused by retry now  lol
nov. 15 17:23:41 <Guest45227>	i double clicked it in POL
nov. 15 17:25:11 <Guest45227>	got a program error new one
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nov. 15 17:25:36 <ptinou>	?
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nov. 15 17:26:42 <Guest45227>	http://postimage.org/image/hs2d3l3xb/
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nov. 15 17:26:58 <Guest45227>	sorry that pic took me a minute
nov. 15 17:27:09 <Guest45227>	http://s11.postimage.org/th6crjuw3/Screenshot_from_2012_11_15_11_24_59.png
nov. 15 17:27:22 <ptinou>	click on "debug" in playonlinux
nov. 15 17:27:25 <ptinou>	and paste the result on pastebin.com
nov. 15 17:27:31 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 17:29:51 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 17:30:22 <Guest45227>	You have exceeded the maximum file size of 500 kilobytes per paste. PRO users don't have this limit!
nov. 15 17:30:34 <ptinou>	give the end of the logfile
nov. 15 17:30:51 <Guest45227>	i exitted it after it stopped working is that bad
nov. 15 17:30:58 <Guest45227>	after the error
nov. 15 17:31:12 <Guest45227>	it was making a shitload of text lol
nov. 15 17:31:43 <ptinou>	tools menu ...
nov. 15 17:31:46 <Guest45227>	http://s16.postimage.org/smsoc2u1x/Screenshot_from_2012_11_15_11_31_25.png
nov. 15 17:32:08 <Guest45227>	ok im on tools menu
nov. 15 17:32:28 <Guest45227>	sorry not sure what u want me to do
nov. 15 17:32:34 <Guest45227>	theres a screenshot of where i am
nov. 15 17:32:39 <ptinou>	I have nothing here
nov. 15 17:32:43 <ptinou>	I want the logfile
nov. 15 17:32:49 <Guest45227>	how do i send it to you
nov. 15 17:32:57 <ptinou>	pastebin
nov. 15 17:33:01 <Guest45227>	said itw as too big
nov. 15 17:33:05 <ptinou>	give the end!
nov. 15 17:33:08 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 17:33:10 <Guest45227>	il try that
nov. 15 17:33:58 <Guest45227>	http://pastebin.com/46vUX2wb
nov. 15 17:34:18 <Guest45227>	http://s17.postimage.org/3kr70phvz/Screenshot_from_2012_11_15_11_33_36.png
nov. 15 17:34:22 <Guest45227>	thats how much i copied
nov. 15 17:34:27 <Guest45227>	and pasted there
nov. 15 17:35:19 <Guest45227>	actually that screenshot is worthless becus u cant see thes crollbar
nov. 15 17:35:21 <Guest45227>	scrollbar
nov. 15 17:35:27 <ptinou>	try with wine 1.4
nov. 15 17:35:31 <Guest45227>	its like 40 percent of the log
nov. 15 17:35:34 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 17:36:18 <Guest45227>	this is a 32-bit game but i have a 64-bit PC
nov. 15 17:36:28 <Guest45227>	should i install 32-bit or 64-bit wine
nov. 15 17:36:33 <ptinou>	32 bits
nov. 15 17:36:34 <Guest45227>	(i have to add 1.4)
nov. 15 17:36:36 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 17:36:48 <Guest45227>	which 1.4
nov. 15 17:36:51 <Guest45227>	should i get 1.4.1
nov. 15 17:36:57 <ptinou>	nope
nov. 15 17:37:11 <Guest45227>	1.4-rc6 ?
nov. 15 17:37:22 <Guest45227>	oh
nov. 15 17:37:25 <Guest45227>	theres a 1.4
nov. 15 17:37:29 <Guest45227>	should i get specifically "1.4"
nov. 15 17:37:33 <ptinou>	YES
nov. 15 17:37:42 <Guest45227>	rgr that
nov. 15 17:38:12 <Guest45227>	il remember these tips
nov. 15 17:39:15 <Guest45227>	trying to run it
nov. 15 17:40:01 <Guest45227>	I HAVE FONTS
nov. 15 17:40:04 <Guest45227>	on steam
nov. 15 17:40:06 <Guest45227>	I CAN READ
nov. 15 17:40:15 <Guest45227>	this is a miracle
nov. 15 17:40:23 <Guest45227>	hopefuly it works lol
nov. 15 17:40:41 <Guest45227>	nope didnt work
nov. 15 17:40:47 <ptinou>	same error?
nov. 15 17:40:51 <Guest45227>	yes
nov. 15 17:41:22 <Guest45227>	let me upload logs will that help
nov. 15 17:43:26 <ptinou>	try to install dotnet35 now (package menu)
nov. 15 17:44:05 <Guest45227>	http://s9.postimage.org/aogcaimz3/Screenshot_from_2012_11_15_11_43_31.png
nov. 15 17:44:07 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 17:44:16 <ptinou>	oh no
nov. 15 17:44:19 <ptinou>	don't install dotnet
nov. 15 17:44:22 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 17:44:24 <Guest45227>	i didnt
nov. 15 17:44:32 <Guest45227>	do u want me to upload those 2 log files
nov. 15 17:44:42 <Guest45227>	i save dthe playonlinux.log asap after the error popped
nov. 15 17:44:51 <Guest45227>	and the backtrace is the one in the program i saved
nov. 15 17:44:58 <Guest45227>	(the 2 on my desktop in the sreenshot)
nov. 15 17:45:02 <ptinou>	wait a minute
nov. 15 17:45:05 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 17:45:18 <ptinou>	try with wine 1.5.5.
nov. 15 17:45:21 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 17:45:51 <Guest45227>	i have 1.5.10 do u want me to install 1.5.5
nov. 15 17:45:58 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 15 17:46:06 <Guest45227>	ok
nov. 15 17:47:22 <Guest45227>	ok just installed it
nov. 15 17:47:26 <Guest45227>	1.5.5 that is
nov. 15 17:47:38 <Guest45227>	ok im trying it again
nov. 15 17:48:57 <Guest45227>	i lost my font again
nov. 15 17:49:02 <Guest45227>	on steam
nov. 15 17:49:23 <ptinou>	interesting, and does it run?
nov. 15 17:49:35 <Guest45227>	same thing happened
nov. 15 17:49:39 <Guest45227>	same error
nov. 15 17:49:42 <ptinou>	try many versions
nov. 15 17:49:47 <Guest45227>	ok lol
nov. 15 17:49:53 <Guest45227>	i know nothijg about this so
nov. 15 17:49:55 <Guest45227>	which ones
nov. 15 17:50:00 <Guest45227>	sholuld i try
nov. 15 17:50:46 <Guest45227>	http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=24749
nov. 15 17:50:50 <Guest45227>	i gues il try 1.5.16
nov. 15 17:53:17 <Guest45227>	WOW
nov. 15 17:53:19 <Guest45227>	i got the skyrim launcher
nov. 15 17:53:25 <Guest45227>	(no text in steam though)
nov. 15 17:53:33 <Guest45227>	oh great
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nov. 15 17:53:42 <Guest45227>	it tried to detect my hardware and then program error
nov. 15 17:54:01 <Guest45227>	well maybe nto a issue
nov. 15 17:54:06 <Guest45227>	didnt ask 2nd time
nov. 15 17:54:29 <ptinou>	have you tried 1.5.16
nov. 15 17:54:38 <Guest45227>	thats what im trying now
nov. 15 17:54:40 <Guest45227>	it doesnt work,
nov. 15 17:54:47 <Guest45227>	and in my graphics options it also wont let me choose my nvidia card
nov. 15 17:54:54 <Guest45227>	(i have two graphics cards)
nov. 15 17:56:40 <ptinou>	It does not work does not mean anything for me :p
nov. 15 17:57:28 <Guest45227>	ok let me take a ocuple shots
nov. 15 17:58:22 <Guest45227>	http://postimage.org/image/ne7m9zf33/
nov. 15 17:58:28 <Guest45227>	http://s11.postimage.org/4yn5cl0yr/Screenshot_from_2012_11_15_11_57_38.png
nov. 15 17:58:41 <Guest45227>	http://s16.postimage.org/st28ksuqt/Screenshot_from_2012_11_15_11_57_55.png
nov. 15 18:03:50 <Guest45227>	what do you think
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nov. 15 18:11:35 <Guest45227>	awesokme it found my nvidia card
nov. 15 18:11:58 <Guest45227>	anyway it doesnt work tho lol
nov. 15 18:12:07 <Guest45227>	do u have any ideas
nov. 15 18:18:20 <Guest45227>	im trying different wine versions
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nov. 15 18:21:44 <Guest45227>	http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=24749
nov. 15 18:21:48 <Guest45227>	i wonder why it doesnt work for me
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nov. 15 18:27:53 <iano-pol>	mi sapete dire come aggiornare la versione di playonlinux
nov. 15 18:29:45 <iano-pol>	can you tell me how to upgrade the version of PlayOnLinux
nov. 15 18:30:22 <Guest45227>	if you downloaded from the web site, when you start the program it will say theres an update available
nov. 15 18:30:39 <Guest45227>	because mine was updated
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nov. 15 18:31:42 <iano-pol>	thanks
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nov. 15 18:42:26 <Guest45227>	i tried the lates wine version
nov. 15 18:42:31 <Guest45227>	and its working now
nov. 15 18:42:37 <Guest45227>	(im in the main menu at least
nov. 15 18:42:41 <Guest45227>	let me try to play
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nov. 15 18:50:38 <Guest45227>	ptinou
nov. 15 18:50:51 <Guest45227>	its working although slow performance (may be tbhe laptops fault)
nov. 15 18:50:55 <dallas-pol>	Has anyone been able to get Star Wars: The Old Republic to run?
nov. 15 18:51:14 <Guest45227>	but my resolution is really high i think its playable if i lower it
nov. 15 18:51:23 <dallas-pol>	I run it and get nothing but a frame in the middle of my screen
nov. 15 18:51:32 <Guest45227>	thanks so much
nov. 15 18:51:39 <Guest45227>	do u want skyrim il get for u
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nov. 15 18:59:40 <ptinou>	sorry I was awant
nov. 15 18:59:49 <ptinou>	Guest45227:  How did you do ?
nov. 15 19:00:01 <Guest45227>	im changing my performance settings
nov. 15 19:00:04 <Guest45227>	to run better,
nov. 15 19:00:07 <Guest45227>	ITS WORKINGS
nov. 15 19:00:10 <ptinou>	also disable compiz
nov. 15 19:00:15 <ptinou>	but how did you do eventually ?
nov. 15 19:00:16 <Guest45227>	what is compiz
nov. 15 19:00:24 <Guest45227>	by using the latest .17 wine
nov. 15 19:00:27 <Guest45227>	or whatever it is
nov. 15 19:00:34 <Guest45227>	the latest 1
nov. 15 19:00:48 <Guest45227>	i didnt think to try that until i tried all the ones on winehq lol
nov. 15 19:00:48 <ptinou>	that's all ?
nov. 15 19:00:54 <ptinou>	dotnet or anything else installed?
nov. 15 19:01:03 <Guest45227>	only the script u did,
nov. 15 19:01:08 <Guest45227>	and watever else we did
nov. 15 19:01:12 <ptinou>	with wine 1.5.17 ?
nov. 15 19:01:18 <Guest45227>	yes thats the one
nov. 15 19:01:23 <ptinou>	Ok i'm fixing POL script
nov. 15 19:01:23 <Guest45227>	1.5.17 and im not sure what ur script did
nov. 15 19:01:27 <Guest45227>	sweet
nov. 15 19:01:39 <Guest45227>	do i need ur script to be succesffully installing this again
nov. 15 19:01:50 <Guest45227>	(if i had to)
nov. 15 19:02:01 <ptinou>	you'll have to run ptrace scoop each time your computer starts
nov. 15 19:02:08 <Guest45227>	what does that mean
nov. 15 19:02:20 <Guest45227>	oh right that terminal command?
nov. 15 19:02:30 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 15 19:02:42 <Guest45227>	could u elaborate on what to do and what its doing for the linux newb
nov. 15 19:03:12 <ptinou>	?
nov. 15 19:03:26 <Guest45227>	echo 0|sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope
nov. 15 19:03:42 <Guest45227>	u mean i need to do echo 0|sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope befor ei can play skyrim
nov. 15 19:03:52 <Guest45227>	(whenever i restart pc)
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nov. 15 19:06:51 <veronicagarridom>	Hola?
nov. 15 19:06:52 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel veronicagarridom
nov. 15 19:07:16 <veronicagarridom>	tengo dudas
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nov. 15 19:09:05 <Guest45227>	how do u disable compix
nov. 15 19:09:07 <Guest45227>	compiz
nov. 15 19:10:48 <Guest45227>	i figured that out
nov. 15 19:11:01 <Guest45227>	im going to test my new graphics settings
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nov. 15 19:20:47 <Guest45227>	wow its definitely playable
nov. 15 19:20:52 <Guest45227>	u rockn ptinou
nov. 15 19:22:18 <ptinou>	you're welcome
nov. 15 19:23:03 <Guest45227>	do uwant a copy of skyrim
nov. 15 19:23:19 <ptinou>	if it works, i do no longer need it /D
nov. 15 19:23:19 <ptinou>	:D
nov. 15 19:23:36 <Guest45227>	well if u have no interest il keep my cash lol
nov. 15 19:23:42 <Guest45227>	i will definitely recommend ur program
nov. 15 19:23:55 <Guest45227>	do u know preciesly why it didntwork or no
nov. 15 19:24:07 <ptinou>	no
nov. 15 19:24:11 <Guest45227>	oh u didnt answer my question,
nov. 15 19:24:16 <Guest45227>	do i need to type that terminal command
nov. 15 19:24:27 <Guest45227>	every time computer is restarted
nov. 15 19:24:35 <Guest45227>	echo 0|sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope
nov. 15 19:24:44 <Guest45227>	no idea what that even does lol
nov. 15 19:24:51 <ptinou>	you need to do it
nov. 15 19:24:59 <Dougie187>	I think there's a way to make it persist
nov. 15 19:25:04 <Guest45227>	what is it
nov. 15 19:25:05 <Dougie187>	but I forget what it is
nov. 15 19:25:11 <Guest45227>	what is tee
nov. 15 19:25:29 <Dougie187>	tee - read from standard input and write to standard output and files
nov. 15 19:25:41 <Guest45227>	no idea what htat means lol
nov. 15 19:25:45 <Guest45227>	but il do that
nov. 15 19:25:51 <Guest45227>	thanks
nov. 15 19:25:59 <Dougie187>	It means that it takes standard input and writes it to either standard output or to a file
nov. 15 19:26:14 <Dougie187>	in this case the | means take standard output from the left command and make it standard input for the right command
nov. 15 19:26:23 <Dougie187>	echo 0 means that you're just going to print 0
nov. 15 19:26:37 <Dougie187>	and then tee means you're going to write 0 to the file  /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope
nov. 15 19:26:54 <Guest45227>	u have successfully confused me more than anyone in a long time LOL
nov. 15 19:27:06 <Dougie187>	:P
nov. 15 19:27:08 <Guest45227>	thanks for the explanation but i dont think i can grasp that level
nov. 15 19:27:19 <Guest45227>	of whatever ur saying
nov. 15 19:27:22 <Guest45227>	no offense
nov. 15 19:27:43 <Guest45227>	i do find it strange i have to paste that each time tho
nov. 15 19:27:45 <Dougie187>	No problem
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nov. 15 19:29:39 <Guest45227>	ok im going to test the game for a bit
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nov. 15 19:29:48 <Guest45227>	imvery happy i found this chatroom
nov. 15 19:29:49 <cesarz>	hi
nov. 15 19:29:51 <Guest45227>	afk
nov. 15 19:29:52 <Guest45227>	hi
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nov. 15 19:30:17 <Guest45227_AFK>	im really away actually
nov. 15 19:30:21 <Guest45227_AFK>	well im here lol
nov. 15 19:30:25 <Guest45227_AFK>	bye
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nov. 15 19:32:14 <Dougie187>	ptinou: still no unbanning for me. I can't even get the GM's to read my tickets.
nov. 15 19:32:37 <ptinou>	I cannot do anything about that Dougie187
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nov. 15 19:32:47 <Dougie187>	I know, I just thought I would give you an update.
nov. 15 19:33:14 <derpyeah>	i been. trying to get it to work .lol
nov. 15 19:33:35 <derpyeah>	i got it working platnum. but.. it crashes later in games and that been really irrtaiting. :I
nov. 15 19:34:45 <Guest45227_AFK>	how do i disable dwrite.dll
nov. 15 19:34:51 <Guest45227_AFK>	its making steam text invisible apparently
nov. 15 19:34:52 <derpyeah>	idk how to stop it tried everything i just play 2 minutes. repeat sound due to freeze then boom. desktop
nov. 15 19:35:01 <derpyeah>	idk sorry
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nov. 15 19:37:27 <derpyeah>	tried now boom went into a kil different weapon room and it crashed -_-;;;
nov. 15 19:38:06 <derpyeah>	can't seem to go under 15.13 cuase then the game won't even open.
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nov. 15 20:16:33 <diegober-pol>	hola
nov. 15 20:16:33 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel diegober-pol
nov. 15 20:17:44 <diegober-pol>	PlayOnMac doesn't work in my MAC OS X
nov. 15 20:17:55 <diegober-pol>	+on
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nov. 15 20:26:49 <cesarz>	this bug in wine is only in 64 bit?
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nov. 15 20:26:59 <Dougie187>	which bug?
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nov. 15 20:28:50 <cesarz>	crashing warden
nov. 15 20:28:57 <Dougie187>	Ionno, I guess
nov. 15 20:29:04 <Dougie187>	I don't know how to tell if warden is crashing or not
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nov. 15 20:29:46 <Marius_AFK>	think i accidently closed irc
nov. 15 20:29:54 <Marius_AFK>	ptinou i managed to BRING BACK THE INVISIBLE TEXT
nov. 15 20:30:34 <Marius_AFK>	by disabling dwrite.dll in the wine libraries
nov. 15 20:30:41 <Marius_AFK>	afk im goingt o play the damn game LOL
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nov. 15 20:35:37 <Marius_AFK>	oh im guest btw
nov. 15 20:35:45 <Marius_AFK>	this is my name on another server lol
nov. 15 20:35:49 <Marius_AFK>	afk
nov. 15 20:36:46 <ptinou>	to bring back the text ?
nov. 15 20:36:54 <ptinou>	good
nov. 15 20:38:45 <ptinou>	plop pangoafk
nov. 15 20:38:51 <ptinou>	(si t'es pas afk)
nov. 15 20:40:12 <cesarz>	well i have 32 bit or i'm thinking i have 32 bit
nov. 15 20:41:12 <Dougie187>	you can check with uname -a
nov. 15 20:41:59 <cesarz>	Linux krzysiek-laptop 3.2.0-32-generic-pae #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:54:23 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
nov. 15 20:43:07 <cesarz>	its mean i have 32 bit?
nov. 15 20:43:16 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 15 20:44:32 <Dougie187>	so, it's something other than that bug that got you banned.
nov. 15 20:44:37 <Dougie187>	Possibly everyone else to, who knows
nov. 15 20:47:02 <Marius_AFK>	ptinou thanks so much for your help
nov. 15 20:47:23 <ptinou>	you're welcome
nov. 15 20:47:24 <Marius_AFK>	ther is only one major bug in my game, when i quit game from in-game or menu it freezes indefinitely, but i close it with process manager
nov. 15 20:47:26 <ptinou>	thank you for helping POL
nov. 15 20:47:37 <Marius_AFK>	i have my feedback on
nov. 15 20:47:40 <Marius_AFK>	for the program
nov. 15 20:47:55 <Marius_AFK>	i hope u continue to cover more modern mainstream games
nov. 15 20:48:18 <Marius_AFK>	its probably a very big reason a lot of people use windows
nov. 15 20:48:20 <ptinou>	I try
nov. 15 20:48:29 <ptinou>	but as I said, it is time consuming and expensive
nov. 15 20:48:39 <Marius_AFK>	is this ur full time job
nov. 15 20:48:46 <ptinou>	of course it is not
nov. 15 20:49:29 <Marius_AFK>	to be honest u have altereed my life because i will be using ur program every day at work
nov. 15 20:49:36 <Marius_AFK>	so i thank u for that
nov. 15 20:49:48 <Marius_AFK>	if i didnt have this program my work would be more boring
nov. 15 20:49:51 <Marius_AFK>	hahah
nov. 15 20:51:23 <Marius_AFK>	anyways im going to log off to give all my performance i can to this program
nov. 15 20:51:29 <Marius_AFK>	have a good afternoon
nov. 15 20:51:38 <Marius_AFK>	or day whatever
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nov. 15 20:56:53 <Marmotte>	did you see the new cinemablend post ?
nov. 15 20:56:56 <Marmotte>	http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Blizzard-Admits-Linux-User-Was-Wrongly-Banned-Offers-Refund-49339.html
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nov. 15 20:57:08 <Marmotte>	they explained the vexorian unban :)
nov. 15 21:01:30 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 15 21:01:37 <Dougie187>	But it's not working for anyone else yet
nov. 15 21:01:50 <Dougie187>	it's literally only him
nov. 15 21:02:08 <Marmotte>	yes, because he explained making tests, etc.
nov. 15 21:02:32 <Dougie187>	I've tried just getting them to compare my ticket to his, but they won't even do that.
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nov. 15 21:05:16 <filas-pol>	everytime i open a game, in this case Nation Red, i can hear the sound but it only shows a black screen, any ideas?
nov. 15 21:07:03 <cesarz>	clean your monitor
nov. 15 21:07:28 <filas-pol>	thank you very much
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nov. 15 21:53:12 <esor-pol>	Heloo all
nov. 15 21:53:29 <ptinou>	hello
nov. 15 21:53:51 <esor-pol>	good morning
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nov. 15 22:13:30 <usuario-pol>	ola
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nov. 15 22:28:26 <valkiria-pol>	hola
nov. 15 22:28:26 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel valkiria-pol
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nov. 16 00:36:53 <ripsnorter-pol>	hi there any one online
nov. 16 00:36:54 <ripsnorter-pol>	?
nov. 16 00:37:22 <ripsnorter-pol>	Im in a bit of a pikell can any one give me a hend
nov. 16 00:37:28 <ripsnorter-pol>	Im new to linux
nov. 16 00:37:42 <ripsnorter-pol>	have been using win up untill now
nov. 16 00:37:54 <ripsnorter-pol>	how ever im tring linux
nov. 16 00:37:58 <ripsnorter-pol>	and I like it
nov. 16 00:38:04 <ripsnorter-pol>	but I cant play my fav game
nov. 16 00:38:14 <ripsnorter-pol>	I found this software
nov. 16 00:38:24 <ripsnorter-pol>	in the software center
nov. 16 00:38:44 <ripsnorter-pol>	the description saing
nov. 16 00:38:57 <ripsnorter-pol>	I I can use it
nov. 16 00:39:03 <ripsnorter-pol>	as a crossover
nov. 16 00:39:06 <ripsnorter-pol>	platform
nov. 16 00:39:16 <ripsnorter-pol>	the game is League of Legends
nov. 16 00:39:31 <ripsnorter-pol>	I found it in the testing section
nov. 16 00:39:43 <ripsnorter-pol>	but it keeps crashing
nov. 16 00:40:05 <ripsnorter-pol>	so can any one tell me how fix it
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nov. 16 00:42:21 <ripsnorter-pol>	hello any one not afk
nov. 16 00:43:53 <ripsnorter-pol>	marius you just joined you have got to be
nov. 16 00:43:55 <ripsnorter-pol>	here
nov. 16 00:46:06 <ripsnorter-pol>	whats the point of just sitting here
nov. 16 00:46:09 <ripsnorter-pol>	if no one
nov. 16 00:46:16 <ripsnorter-pol>	responds to any thing
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nov. 16 03:16:42 <DerpYeah>	hey people sup
nov. 16 03:18:29 <zoktar>	swtor free to play, anyone having the black launcher issue?
nov. 16 03:19:02 <DerpYeah>	swtor?
nov. 16 03:19:15 <zoktar>	star wars mmo
nov. 16 03:19:43 <DerpYeah>	oh no sorry. idk  try different versions of wine
nov. 16 03:20:01 <DerpYeah>	make sure the resuluton is something it can handle
nov. 16 03:20:32 <DerpYeah>	i really don't know anything about it so can't help ya that much bud :I
nov. 16 03:21:17 <DerpYeah>	trying to get tf2 to not lag on my 4 gig ram comp so trying to use stuff to lower graphics.lol
nov. 16 03:22:51 <Dougie187>	Team Fortress?
nov. 16 03:24:04 <DerpYeah>	yeah.
nov. 16 03:24:29 <DerpYeah>	i love that game lol trying to get it work on wine
nov. 16 03:24:59 <Dougie187>	It works great for me
nov. 16 03:25:20 <DerpYeah>	yeah expect. my comp is good and i lag =_=;;; for some dam reason.
nov. 16 03:25:24 <Dougie187>	I made it in a virtual desktop
nov. 16 03:25:31 <DerpYeah>	mhm...
nov. 16 03:25:41 <Dougie187>	Without the virtual desktop the fonts were all stupid
nov. 16 03:25:51 <DerpYeah>	my fonts are fine just the dam lag. im trying to fix...
nov. 16 03:26:00 <Dougie187>	I think at least. I can't remember if I installed something for the fonts. :P
nov. 16 03:26:07 <DerpYeah>	lol
nov. 16 03:26:11 <Dougie187>	There was someone complaining about lag in CSS the other day too
nov. 16 03:26:12 <DerpYeah>	what are your system specs if u mind.
nov. 16 03:26:27 <DerpYeah>	werid i was having problems with css lol crashing
nov. 16 03:26:32 <DerpYeah>	it works like a charm but the crashes!!!
nov. 16 03:26:33 <DerpYeah>	lol
nov. 16 03:26:48 <Dougie187>	8GB ram, Core i7 2720QM, NVS 4200M
nov. 16 03:27:04 <DerpYeah>	nice. invida too lol
nov. 16 03:27:09 <DerpYeah>	i have ati -_-;
nov. 16 03:27:11 <Dougie187>	:P
nov. 16 03:27:21 <DerpYeah>	it was before i found out ati was bs when it comes to linux
nov. 16 03:27:40 <Dougie187>	heh yeah
nov. 16 03:27:49 <Dougie187>	I found that out ~6 years ago
nov. 16 03:27:53 <Dougie187>	I've only got nvidia since then
nov. 16 03:28:14 <DerpYeah>	yeah i just started useing linux for a year.sooooo im kinda fked up :I
nov. 16 03:28:18 <DerpYeah>	how much does that comp cost?
nov. 16 03:28:27 <Dougie187>	I think it was like 1800....
nov. 16 03:28:30 <Dougie187>	It's a laptop
nov. 16 03:28:36 <DerpYeah>	i have a laptop too. lol
nov. 16 03:28:43 <DerpYeah>	and this one cost. 720. :I
nov. 16 03:28:47 <DerpYeah>	officedepoy rip me off.
nov. 16 03:28:48 <Dougie187>	You could probably make a better desktop for cheaper though. :P
nov. 16 03:28:58 <Dougie187>	maybe not less than 720, but still
nov. 16 03:29:00 <DerpYeah>	yeah lol but i like laptops
nov. 16 03:29:04 <Dougie187>	me too
nov. 16 03:29:17 <DerpYeah>	officedopy gave me a laptop that windows broke by it's self
nov. 16 03:29:25 <Dougie187>	hah
nov. 16 03:29:30 <DerpYeah>	it forgot i ownd it. and toshiba wants me to buy like 100 bucks to get it fixed. so im screwed -_-;;
nov. 16 03:29:49 <Dougie187>	So, you moved to linux?
nov. 16 03:30:09 <DerpYeah>	yeah. had too i had no os. becuase windows broke by it's self and when i wanted to get it changed they didn't want to
nov. 16 03:30:18 <DerpYeah>	toshiba ripped me off basicaly
nov. 16 03:30:21 <DerpYeah>	:I
nov. 16 03:30:24 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 16 03:30:25 <Dougie187>	that sucks
nov. 16 03:30:36 <Dougie187>	I've been using ubuntu because it's so much easier for my work
nov. 16 03:30:44 <DerpYeah>	the fking thing. forgot i ownd it when i tried to verify it said i couldn't/. i had to pay microsoft for a new linux
nov. 16 03:30:50 <DerpYeah>	oops linux i mean licsnes bleh
nov. 16 03:30:52 <DerpYeah>	i typo :P
nov. 16 03:31:00 <DerpYeah>	ah i see.
nov. 16 03:31:06 <DerpYeah>	im using it becuase i have no choice..
nov. 16 03:31:13 <DerpYeah>	toshiba are b****
nov. 16 03:31:15 <DerpYeah>	:I
nov. 16 03:31:15 <Dougie187>	heh
nov. 16 03:31:18 <Dougie187>	do you like it so far?
nov. 16 03:31:40 <DerpYeah>	yeah very. but games have run problems running in wine at points that irrtaiting but i'm likeing arch manjaro so far
nov. 16 03:31:59 <Dougie187>	nice
nov. 16 03:32:02 <Dougie187>	I haven't tried arch yet
nov. 16 03:32:15 <DerpYeah>	it's very fast lol and very stable.
nov. 16 03:32:22 <DerpYeah>	manjaro is newb frendly :p
nov. 16 03:32:31 <DerpYeah>	manjiaro
nov. 16 03:32:56 <DerpYeah>	oh and i had odd flash crashes.. that kinda came with my computer so yeah i was ripped off T-T
nov. 16 03:33:04 <DerpYeah>	-sighs-
nov. 16 03:33:42 <Dougie187>	heh
nov. 16 03:43:18 <DerpYeah>	.lol
nov. 16 03:43:48 <DerpYeah>	i wonder how good system76 is ><
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nov. 16 08:23:11 <bug2000>	Hello. What's a quick difference of PlayOnLinux VS CrossOver?
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nov. 16 15:42:56 <usr1-pol>	WIECIE JAK ZAINSTALOWAC GRY PRZEZ TEN PLAY ON LINUX?
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nov. 16 17:23:52 <Dougie187>	Hows it going guys?
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nov. 16 17:35:39 <ph5-pol>	hiho, where do i tell bugs?
nov. 16 17:35:47 <ph5-pol>	in gamre
nov. 16 17:35:50 <ph5-pol>	*game
nov. 16 17:36:59 <Dougie187>	bugs in game?
nov. 16 17:37:14 <ph5-pol>	yes
nov. 16 17:38:18 <ph5-pol>	the minimap of 1 testing game, League of Legends is buggy.i cant see a clear map
nov. 16 17:40:25 <Dougie187>	you probably report it on winehq
nov. 16 17:41:31 <ph5-pol>	okey, i will try to find the report formular
nov. 16 17:41:37 <ph5-pol>	thx
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nov. 16 18:17:03 <andresbd-pol>	hi my POL asks me to get an upgrade
nov. 16 18:17:16 <andresbd-pol>	how can i do that?
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nov. 16 18:51:38 <Dougie187>	Hey ptinou, would setting up a linux VM work to try to get banned?
nov. 16 18:51:39 <alinmear>	hi all! i want to get league of legends working on archlinux x64! i get the following errormessage: err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"WLDAP32.dll": libldap_r-2.4.so.2 .... any ideas what i am missing
nov. 16 18:51:57 <Dougie187>	alinmear: did you try the LoL testing script?
nov. 16 18:52:57 <alinmear>	Dourgie187: yes i did
nov. 16 18:52:57 <alinmear>	on ubuntu x64, fedora x64 everything working fine with it
nov. 16 18:53:11 <alinmear>	so i have no idea what i am missing on arch
nov. 16 18:53:35 <Dougie187>	hmm weird.
nov. 16 18:53:39 <Dougie187>	I don't know what to tell you.
nov. 16 18:53:47 <Dougie187>	but I'm not a wine/PoL expert.
nov. 16 18:54:10 <alinmear>	:( although thx for reply!
nov. 16 18:54:28 <Dougie187>	np
nov. 16 18:54:42 <Dougie187>	is that ldap library installed?
nov. 16 18:54:59 <alinmear>	through wine config?
nov. 16 18:55:30 <Dougie187>	no, just in general
nov. 16 18:55:33 <Dougie187>	like in your arch setup
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nov. 16 18:57:41 <Xingoo>	Hi
nov. 16 18:58:04 <alinmear>	let me take a look .. thought would be wine specific. i installed libldap 2.4.33-1
nov. 16 18:58:28 <alinmear>	trying to install the 32bit version
nov. 16 18:59:05 <alinmear>	yessss
nov. 16 18:59:10 <alinmear>	that solved my problem
nov. 16 18:59:12 <alinmear>	good one
nov. 16 18:59:15 <alinmear>	thx a lot
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nov. 16 18:59:36 <alinmear>	so for arch x64 you need to install lib32-libldap
nov. 16 18:59:45 <Dougie187>	Np
nov. 16 19:00:01 <Dougie187>	Glad you got it working. :D
nov. 16 19:00:11 <alinmear>	yeah! thx a lot mate
nov. 16 19:00:59 <Xingoo>	Hey guys I'm having a few issues with FFXIV on linux mint, anyone that could help me? :D
nov. 16 19:01:50 <alinmear>	xingoo: whats your problem in particula
nov. 16 19:02:27 <Xingoo>	Well, sorry but I'm a supernoob at linux just got it installed a few weeks ago
nov. 16 19:02:47 <alinmear>	maybe post some debug infos
nov. 16 19:02:50 <Xingoo>	But when I start FFXIV it seems to get a network error and is not able to check for updates so it closes down
nov. 16 19:02:53 <Xingoo>	yes sir
nov. 16 19:02:54 <Xingoo>	one sec
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nov. 16 19:03:54 <Dougie187>	Didn't they take FFXIV down a bit ago?
nov. 16 19:04:11 <Dougie187>	http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/11/final-fantasy-xiv-shut-down-reborn-in-this-end-of-an-era-trai/
nov. 16 19:04:13 <Xingoo>	they did but i'm suppose to be able to get to character creation
nov. 16 19:04:24 <Xingoo>	when I try in windows I get all the way to character creation
nov. 16 19:04:30 <Dougie187>	Hmm
nov. 16 19:04:53 <Xingoo>	fixme:d3d:resource_check_usage Unhandled usage flags 0x8.
nov. 16 19:05:16 <Xingoo>	err:ole:CoInitializeEx Attempt to change threading model of this apartment from multi-threaded to apartment threaded
nov. 16 19:06:13 <Xingoo>	that's the 2 lines I get in debug mode
nov. 16 19:06:19 <alinmear>	what version of d3d did you have installed
nov. 16 19:06:32 <alinmear>	but i am not sure about the error message
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nov. 16 19:07:15 <Xingoo>	d3dx9_36
nov. 16 19:07:20 <Xingoo>	is the one I installed.
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nov. 16 19:09:24 <alinmear>	on skyrim there is a similiar problem
nov. 16 19:09:26 <alinmear>	Game framerate is quite good (playable) on AMD 4200+ dual core with GT8800 512MB if wine debug information is turned off (WINEDEBUG=fixme-all,err-all,warn-all,trace-all). Otherwise game lags as Wine constantly outputs following notification:
nov. 16 19:09:28 <alinmear>	fixme:d3d:resource_check_usage Unhandled usage flags 0x8.
nov. 16 19:09:42 <Xingoo>	in ffxiv i get 11014 version check failed 2:20447,0
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nov. 16 19:10:39 <Xingoo>	so d3d could be the issue then, I'm guessing
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nov. 16 19:12:05 <alinmear>	read this page
nov. 16 19:12:14 <alinmear>	maybe there is a solution for you mate
nov. 16 19:12:21 <Xingoo>	"I had Peerblock running and that was what was causing this issue for me"
nov. 16 19:12:23 <Xingoo>	Googled it
nov. 16 19:12:25 <alinmear>	http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=24787
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nov. 16 19:12:41 <Xingoo>	seems to be a issue for windows users also
nov. 16 19:12:41 <alinmear>	solved for you?
nov. 16 19:12:48 <Xingoo>	I don't have peerblock
nov. 16 19:13:09 <alinmear>	read the link i posted
nov. 16 19:13:16 <Xingoo>	k
nov. 16 19:13:21 <alinmear>	maybe you can get close to your problem
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nov. 16 19:14:21 <Xingoo>	I'm more confused over the error message, seems like it doesn't connect to internet
nov. 16 19:14:52 <alinmear>	i have to go for now maybe going to come back later
nov. 16 19:15:05 <alinmear>	if you are still sticking on it i gonna help you again
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nov. 16 19:15:10 <alinmear>	bb
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nov. 16 19:35:46 <Xingoo>	Aight, well I'm reinstalling it, I read that a clean uninstall can help out
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nov. 16 19:39:22 ---	You are now known as pango
nov. 16 19:40:25 <Dougie187>	bonsoir pango
nov. 16 19:40:26 <Dougie187>	:D
nov. 16 19:40:35 <pango>	bonsoir Dougie187 :)
nov. 16 19:40:43 <Dougie187>	well, it's morning here, but still
nov. 16 19:40:48 <Dougie187>	figured I'd try out some french.
nov. 16 19:41:02 <pango>	Where are you by the way?
nov. 16 19:41:08 <Dougie187>	New Mexico
nov. 16 19:42:25 <Dougie187>	How are things going?
nov. 16 19:43:01 <pango>	ah ok, so you're something like -9h vs. me?
nov. 16 19:43:11 <Dougie187>	Probably. I'm -7 from Scotland
nov. 16 19:43:37 <Dougie187>	It's 11:45 here
nov. 16 19:43:43 <Dougie187>	so, if you're at 9pm, then yes
nov. 16 19:43:53 <pango>	ok, 19:43 here, so -8h
nov. 16 19:44:02 <Dougie187>	Cool
nov. 16 19:44:53 <Dougie187>	Have any fun weekend plans?
nov. 16 19:45:14 <pango>	I seldom plan anything :p
nov. 16 19:45:26 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 16 19:45:40 <pango>	Wish I did, sometimes, but really I suck at planning things
nov. 16 19:45:52 <Dougie187>	same here
nov. 16 19:46:14 <Dougie187>	I'll probably submit a bunch of tickets to blizzard this weekend though. So same as last weekend in that respect.
nov. 16 19:46:26 <Dougie187>	but otherwise we have some cleaning to do, because we're going to my brothers for thanksgiving next week
nov. 16 19:48:33 <pango>	I don't know what I will do this weekend, yesterday we went to a pub with many collegues (hence why I wasn't online), maybe I'll just stay at home
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nov. 16 19:53:29 <Dougie187>	:P
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nov. 16 21:18:24 <tomasgalvan-pom>	hola
nov. 16 21:18:24 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel tomasgalvan-pom
nov. 16 21:18:49 <jaime-pol>	que tal , como vamos
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nov. 16 21:28:42 <ptinou>	yo
nov. 16 21:28:42 <ptinou>	p
nov. 16 21:29:54 <Dougie187>	Hows it going?
nov. 16 21:29:58 <ptinou>	fine
nov. 16 21:32:18 <Dougie187>	cool
nov. 16 21:37:35 <Dougie187>	what are you up to?
nov. 16 21:37:40 <ptinou>	?
nov. 16 21:37:56 <Dougie187>	hmm... like... what are you doing
nov. 16 21:38:12 <ptinou>	watching tv :p
nov. 16 21:38:24 <Dougie187>	heh cool
nov. 16 21:38:40 <Dougie187>	So, do you think trying to play D3 in a VM could let you get banned? :P
nov. 16 21:38:51 <ptinou>	I don't know Dougie187
nov. 16 21:39:00 <ptinou>	but we have many other problems than users banned
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nov. 16 21:39:43 <Dougie187>	other D3 problems, or other PoL problems?
nov. 16 21:39:52 <ptinou>	PoL
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nov. 16 21:40:02 <Dougie187>	yeah. that's understandable
nov. 16 21:41:06 <Dougie187>	is there any way I could help?
nov. 16 21:41:24 <ptinou>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/bugs.html
nov. 16 21:42:30 <Dougie187>	ok
nov. 16 21:44:24 <Dougie187>	why is spotify on there? Don't they have a native linux client?
nov. 16 21:44:45 <Dougie187>	Oh, nm
nov. 16 21:44:48 <Dougie187>	only a preview
nov. 16 21:45:07 <ptinou>	only for premium users also
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nov. 16 21:45:52 <Dougie187>	oh ok
nov. 16 21:48:19 <Dougie187>	why is it marked invalid?
nov. 16 21:59:50 <ptinou>	because it is invalid
nov. 16 22:01:59 <Dougie187>	but, what does that mean. like you won't be trying to fix that bug report?
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nov. 16 22:15:47 <Norbu>	Hi
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nov. 16 22:16:07 <ptinou>	hi
nov. 16 22:16:48 <Norbu>	could someone help me run World of Warcraft?
nov. 16 22:16:54 <Norbu>	on play on linux
nov. 16 22:19:45 <Dougie187>	What's wrong? I don't know how much help I can be, but I can try. :P
nov. 16 22:22:59 <alinmear>	Norbu: there are many tutorials how to install and run wow on linux
nov. 16 22:23:09 <alinmear>	try google for a guide
nov. 16 22:23:13 <alinmear>	its pretty simple
nov. 16 22:23:57 <Norbu>	I've tried, but failed, the initiator gives error when it reaches 50%
nov. 16 22:25:06 <Dougie187>	what linux are you on?
nov. 16 22:25:27 <Norbu>	Ubuntu 12.04
nov. 16 22:25:58 <Dougie187>	64bit?
nov. 16 22:26:24 <alinmear>	http://soulidiotic.blogspot.co.at/2012/07/re-installed-ubuntu-and-had-to-re.html
nov. 16 22:26:48 <Norbu>	yes
nov. 16 22:26:49 <Norbu>	The error is: An error occurred in the execution of a required program (Agent)
nov. 16 22:27:17 <alinmear>	what wine version are you using
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nov. 16 22:28:20 <Norbu>	1.4
nov. 16 22:28:59 <ptinou>	ben
nov. 16 22:29:24 <alinmear>	installed 32bit driver?
nov. 16 22:30:01 <Norbu>	my system is 64 bits
nov. 16 22:30:06 <alinmear>	y sure
nov. 16 22:30:10 <alinmear>	but for 32 bit wine apps
nov. 16 22:30:16 <Norbu>	No
nov. 16 22:30:16 <alinmear>	you need to install 32 bit libs too
nov. 16 22:30:22 <alinmear>	otherwise it wont work
nov. 16 22:30:32 <Norbu>	how do i do this?
nov. 16 22:30:48 <alinmear>	ati or nvidia?
nov. 16 22:30:55 <Norbu>	nvidia
nov. 16 22:31:14 <Dougie187>	How did you install the nvidia driver?
nov. 16 22:31:58 <Norbu>	not yet installed the driver from NVIDIA
nov. 16 22:32:50 <Norbu>	i'm trying to do the wow install, then install the nvidia driver
nov. 16 22:32:52 <Dougie187>	did you install it from jockey?
nov. 16 22:33:03 <alinmear>	you need the priop driver
nov. 16 22:33:05 <Dougie187>	Well, the 32bit libraries he's talking about are part of the nvidia driver
nov. 16 22:33:17 <alinmear>	or 3d support sucks like hell
nov. 16 22:33:31 <alinmear>	and even for gallium3d there are 32bit libs
nov. 16 22:34:29 <alinmear>	take a look at http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Grafikkarten/NVIDIA/nvidia
nov. 16 22:34:29 <Norbu>	so if I install the driver from NVIDIA, I can install WoW without the mistake I talked
nov. 16 22:35:18 <alinmear>	maybe, there are many depencies and i cant say how your system config looks like in detail
nov. 16 22:35:22 <Dougie187>	no idea, but I wouldn't recommend installing WoW until you get the driver setup
nov. 16 22:35:22 <alinmear>	first step
nov. 16 22:35:49 <alinmear>	nvidia driver with 32bit libs
nov. 16 22:36:01 <alinmear>	after that you have a very good chance getting this work
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nov. 16 22:36:49 <Norbu>	ok,  Thank you friends, I will install the driver and try to install wow
nov. 16 22:37:12 <Xingoo>	gl
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nov. 16 23:01:10 <oliveira-pol>	ola, algum brasileiro ai pra me dar um help??
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nov. 16 23:15:55 <Miro>	hello ,, anyone here?!
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nov. 16 23:16:20 <Guest6790>	hmmz
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nov. 16 23:24:01 <akizzle|work>	Sup people
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nov. 16 23:28:24 <Dougie187>	hows it going?
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nov. 16 23:34:53 <usuario-pol>	k pasa
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nov. 16 23:59:16 <ashu-pol>	Ho to install silverlight plugin for firefox. I tried installing through firefox but it does not work.
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nov. 17 00:31:37 <satan-pol>	hi
nov. 17 00:31:50 <satan-pol>	Can anybody help me?
nov. 17 00:32:41 <satan-pol>	I cant choose sound driver in WINE (in playonlinux)
nov. 17 00:32:52 <satan-pol>	no driver
nov. 17 00:32:59 <satan-pol>	sound in Linux is OK
nov. 17 00:34:26 <pango>	Hi, Wine uses ALSA driver... Does your system use Pulseaudio?
nov. 17 00:35:34 <satan-pol>	How can I check it. I have archlinux, and KMIX
nov. 17 00:36:45 <satan-pol>	pacman -Q | grep alsaalsa-lib 1.0.26-1alsa-plugins 1.0.26-1pulseaudio-alsa 2-1
nov. 17 00:37:01 <satan-pol>	pacman -Q | grep alsa alsa-lib 1.0.26-1alsa-plugins 1.0.26-1pulseaudio-alsa 2-1
nov. 17 00:37:09 <pango>	could be
nov. 17 00:37:25 <satan-pol>	but in Wine - Sound Driver: (none)
nov. 17 00:37:35 <satan-pol>	and I cant choose anything
nov. 17 00:37:57 <pango>	sound driver: (none), where do you see that
nov. 17 00:37:58 <pango>	?
nov. 17 00:38:14 <satan-pol>	in WInecfg - sheet Audio
nov. 17 00:38:36 <satan-pol>	I start it from  - PLayOnLinux
nov. 17 00:38:49 <pango>	what version of Wine?
nov. 17 00:38:55 <satan-pol>	1.4
nov. 17 00:39:01 <satan-pol>	for Counter Strike
nov. 17 00:39:30 <pango>	installed thru script or manually?
nov. 17 00:39:52 <satan-pol>	installed from PlayOnLinux
nov. 17 00:39:55 <satan-pol>	not manualy
nov. 17 00:40:09 <pango>	script installs 1.3.37 so I guess you installed it as "non listed program" ?
nov. 17 00:40:29 <satan-pol>	aha
nov. 17 00:40:31 <satan-pol>	yes
nov. 17 00:40:38 <ptinou>	...
nov. 17 00:40:48 <satan-pol>	Steam was installed as nonlisted
nov. 17 00:40:56 <ptinou>	. . .
nov. 17 00:40:57 <pango>	ok... is this 1.4 Wine from PlayOnLinux or from Arch?
nov. 17 00:41:05 <pango>	Bonsoir Quentin :)
nov. 17 00:41:10 <satan-pol>	From POL
nov. 17 00:41:11 <ptinou>	sometimes, I wonder why are we wasting so much time to write scripts
nov. 17 00:41:14 <ptinou>	salut pierre
nov. 17 00:41:34 <pango>	satan-pol: ok, so POL downloaded it
nov. 17 00:42:00 <pango>	satan-pol: you didn't select "System" Wine?
nov. 17 00:43:41 <pango>	satan-pol: when you did the manual installation, you picked "1.4" for Wine version?
nov. 17 00:43:51 <satan-pol>	yes
nov. 17 00:43:57 <ptinou>	!info satan-pol
nov. 17 00:44:07 <ptinou>	satan-pol: install CS normally
nov. 17 00:44:13 <ptinou>	and we will talk about it afterwards
nov. 17 00:44:18 <satan-pol>	how it is normally
nov. 17 00:44:25 <ptinou>	by using the official script
nov. 17 00:44:26 <ptinou>	!
nov. 17 00:44:27 <pango>	that's strange, in 1.4's Winecfg, I get winealsa.drv driver
nov. 17 00:44:46 <pango>	could it be that your system is using OSS?
nov. 17 00:45:00 <pango>	(not sure that would be the symptoms)
nov. 17 00:45:34 <satan-pol>	sorry is necessary to install STEAM from your script?
nov. 17 00:45:46 <satan-pol>	because everything is running, but sound not
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nov. 17 00:49:55 <satan-pol>	OK I will try your script
nov. 17 00:50:02 <satan-pol>	thanks and bye
nov. 17 00:50:13 <pango>	not sure how to check that ALSA is present
nov. 17 00:50:34 <pango>	but that would be the next thing I'd check
nov. 17 00:50:45 <satan-pol>	:)
nov. 17 00:51:22 <pango>	if you're using KMix I assume you're using KDE
nov. 17 00:51:45 <pango>	ALSA/OSS/Pulseaudio are probably mentionned in Phonon configuration
nov. 17 00:52:46 <satan-pol>	OK i will try first completly use your script for STEAM
nov. 17 00:52:50 <satan-pol>	after I will see
nov. 17 00:52:54 <satan-pol>	thanks
nov. 17 00:52:57 <pango>	ok
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nov. 17 00:54:33 <DerpYah>	Help
nov. 17 00:54:47 <DerpYah>	I think I fixed the crashing in CSS but the keyboard isn't working
nov. 17 00:55:10 <DerpYah>	The virtual desktop captures the mouse but I can't get out of it because the keyboard doesn't work
nov. 17 00:55:12 <DerpYah>	:(
nov. 17 00:55:26 <DerpYah>	Any ideas?
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nov. 17 01:01:24 <satan-pol>	hi, again me
nov. 17 01:01:39 <satan-pol>	I installed STEAM from script, and same problem
nov. 17 01:01:58 <satan-pol>	POL is working only with ALSA?
nov. 17 01:02:05 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 17 01:02:40 <satan-pol>	what I need from alsa - alsa-utils, alsa-libs and thats enough to install?
nov. 17 01:03:01 <DerpYah>	uhhhh
nov. 17 01:03:07 <ptinou>	should be if your kernel is compatible
nov. 17 01:03:12 <DerpYah>	*bangs head*
nov. 17 01:03:36 <satan-pol>	I read that my archlinux is based on alsa
nov. 17 01:03:42 <satan-pol>	it is true?
nov. 17 01:03:51 <DerpYah>	I'm on manjaro and it has pulse
nov. 17 01:05:00 <pango>	satan-pol: did not manage to install archlinux, installer is even less friendly than Slackware installer from '95
nov. 17 01:05:03 <pango>	:p
nov. 17 01:05:16 <pango>	so I can't tell
nov. 17 01:05:42 <DerpYah>	Why won't counter strike source detect my keyboard
nov. 17 01:05:43 <DerpYah>	?
nov. 17 01:05:49 <DerpYah>	-.-;;
nov. 17 01:06:06 <satan-pol>	hm, OK I will search something about it in forums wine
nov. 17 01:06:17 <DerpYah>	ok
nov. 17 01:06:27 <pango>	DerpYah: sorry, I don't know CSS
nov. 17 01:06:33 <DerpYah>	it's ok....
nov. 17 01:06:43 <DerpYah>	I can be in a full room without crashes but I can't move
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nov. 17 01:18:06 <satan-pol>	Yeah I found it
nov. 17 01:18:10 <satan-pol>	lib32-alsa-plugins lib32-libpulse lib32-openal
nov. 17 01:18:20 <satan-pol>	this was missing on my system
nov. 17 01:18:41 <satan-pol>	now sound works
nov. 17 01:18:44 <pango>	satan-pol: cool :)
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nov. 17 01:18:54 <satan-pol>	thank you for your time :)
nov. 17 01:19:15 <pango>	didn't know it would show up as Sound Driver: (none), good to know too
nov. 17 01:19:36 <satan-pol>	:)
nov. 17 01:19:42 <satan-pol>	ok, BB
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nov. 17 01:55:05 <rabhrista-pol>	ХОТЬ КТО ТО ГОВОРИТ ПО РУССКИ?
nov. 17 01:55:15 <ptinou>	!lng rabhrista-pol
nov. 17 01:55:16 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english rabhrista-pol
nov. 17 01:57:21 <rabhrista-pol>	ne pouvez pas installer itunes
nov. 17 01:57:47 <rabhrista-pol>	Que faire?
nov. 17 01:58:14 <pango>	mettre à jour POL, pour commencer
nov. 17 01:58:33 <pango>	4.0.14 => 4.1.8
nov. 17 01:58:42 <pango>	!download
nov. 17 01:58:43 <PlayOnLinux>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
nov. 17 02:00:36 <rabhrista-pol>	4,0,14
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nov. 17 02:00:53 <pango>	oui, il faut mettre à jour
nov. 17 02:01:44 <rom1-pol>	Bjr je croyer que left for dead 2 était sorti sur linux mais je ne le trouve pas dans la liste PlayonLinux
nov. 17 02:02:03 <ptinou>	non il n'est pas encore supporté par playonlinux
nov. 17 02:02:28 <rom1-pol>	mais je peu le telecharger  directement sur steam ou nan ?
nov. 17 02:02:38 <rabhrista-pol>	по русски кто то сможет объяснить?
nov. 17 02:02:38 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel rabhrista-pol
nov. 17 02:02:41 <ptinou>	essais, tu verras si ça marche ou pas
nov. 17 02:03:40 <rom1-pol>	Oai le truc cest qu'il te dise aprés 3-4 heure de téléchargement que sa nest pas compatible :/
nov. 17 02:03:52 <ptinou>	??
nov. 17 02:05:33 <ptinou>	bon aller dodo
nov. 17 02:05:40 <pango>	bonne nuit Quentin
nov. 17 02:06:03 <rom1-pol>	++
nov. 17 02:06:12 <pango>	je ne devrais pas trop tarder non plus, déjà 2h...
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nov. 17 02:28:43 <rabhrista-pol>	mise à jour et rien ne s'est passé, tous les vieux ...
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nov. 17 06:24:59 <monica-pol>	hi
nov. 17 06:25:15 <monica-pol>	anyone in cali?
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nov. 17 09:03:56 <logan-pol>	Heyya
nov. 17 09:05:29 <logan-pol>	does anyone here have any experience using POL to install Perfect World International?
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nov. 17 09:45:11 <monkok-pol>	I'm from russia and i want launch Borderlands2 on ubuntu
nov. 17 09:46:02 <monkok-pol>	I downloaded borderlands from torrent
nov. 17 09:46:11 <monkok-pol>	pls help me
nov. 17 09:46:12 <pango>	we do not support piracy
nov. 17 09:46:26 <monkok-pol>	i know
nov. 17 09:47:06 <monkok-pol>	but pls
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nov. 17 11:39:39 <abde-pol>	hola gente
nov. 17 11:39:39 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel abde-pol
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nov. 17 13:19:31 <larisa-pol>	,,,
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nov. 17 13:23:19 <natassa_k-pol>	hello
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nov. 17 13:24:14 <natassa_k-pol>	hello
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nov. 17 13:26:21 <natassa_k-pol>	maybe someone  can help me  out! i downloaded playonlionnux so i can run on xubuntu itunes but it's not working
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nov. 17 13:32:11 <shree>	tujyaila!
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nov. 17 13:59:28 <msi_user-pol>	hallo!, eng, fr, ge, it, pl, es :)
nov. 17 14:00:28 <msi_user-pol>	is somebody there?
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nov. 17 14:04:31 <usuario-pol>	olaaa
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nov. 17 14:06:31 <msi_user-pol>	lo siento
nov. 17 14:07:20 <msi_user-pol>	es que no puedo contestar enseguida...
nov. 17 14:12:59 <pango>	Hi msi_user-pol 
nov. 17 14:13:35 <Cultist>	amazing discovery
nov. 17 14:13:54 <pango>	?
nov. 17 14:13:54 <Cultist>	signing into dropbox from my Samsung Galaxy S3 gave me 48 GB of bonus space for two years.
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nov. 17 14:14:12 <Cultist>	a promotion for the phone apparently
nov. 17 14:14:29 <msi_user-pol>	great!
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nov. 17 14:14:44 <pango>	heard of something like that (just because I'm in the business, I don't have a smartphone :p)
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nov. 17 14:16:39 <msi_user-pol>	well, the competition between manufacturers is a real war: just take advantage!!
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nov. 17 14:17:46 <pango>	indeed a real war, there's even casualties :p
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nov. 17 15:34:32 <Dougie187>	You guys around?
nov. 17 15:34:40 <pango>	hi Dougie187 
nov. 17 15:34:44 <Dougie187>	Guess what
nov. 17 15:35:01 <habeeb-pol>	hey
nov. 17 15:35:03 <habeeb-pol>	guys
nov. 17 15:35:06 <pango>	hi habeeb-pol 
nov. 17 15:35:16 <habeeb-pol>	hi pango :)
nov. 17 15:35:19 <Dougie187>	pango: blizzard is calling me in a few hours.
nov. 17 15:35:26 <pango>	Dougie187: aha
nov. 17 15:35:27 <Dougie187>	Ionno if it's good or bad.... but it's happening. :P
nov. 17 15:35:39 <Gentle>	Dougie187: congrats :D
nov. 17 15:35:51 <Gentle>	just sad that you had to cause this much of an uproar for something to happen
nov. 17 15:36:03 <Dougie187>	yeah, I don't know if it's going to be good. lol
nov. 17 15:36:20 <Dougie187>	It's a Customer Support supervisor
nov. 17 15:36:29 <Dougie187>	he said he wants to discuss my recent communications
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nov. 17 15:40:19 <Dougie187>	Anyone else get anywhere yet?
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nov. 17 17:02:50 -->	You are now talking on #playonlinux
nov. 17 17:02:50 ---	Topic for #playonlinux is PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac Official IRC | http://www.playonlinux.com/ http://www.playonmac.com/ | Latest version: 4.1.8 | Please speak English or French; We may not answer immediately. | We do not support piracy.
nov. 17 17:02:50 ---	Topic for #playonlinux set by aplu!~APLU@2a02-8420-6992-5900-5115-a87b-6639-6726.rev.sfr.net at Fri Sep 21 20:04:37 2012
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nov. 17 17:59:42 <alirifiman-pom>	SALAM
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nov. 17 18:22:37 <sunny-pol>	hi
nov. 17 18:22:41 <pango>	hi
nov. 17 18:25:37 <sunny-pol>	is opssible to run ms office 2010?
nov. 17 18:25:43 <pango>	yes
nov. 17 18:26:02 <sunny-pol>	can u pl give  the stups plz
nov. 17 18:26:12 <sunny-pol>	step plz
nov. 17 18:26:28 <sunny-pol>	from the starting
nov. 17 18:26:40 <pango>	Install button > Office button > Microsoft Office 2010
nov. 17 18:26:54 <sunny-pol>	ok.. thn
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nov. 17 18:27:46 <sunny-pol>	can i run any .exe files ?
nov. 17 18:28:11 <pango>	not everything works, and not everything works perfectly under Wine
nov. 17 18:28:31 <pango>	so the short answer is no
nov. 17 18:29:41 <sunny-pol>	good
nov. 17 18:29:48 <sunny-pol>	thanlx
nov. 17 18:29:53 <pango>	np
nov. 17 18:30:04 <sunny-pol>	u r from?
nov. 17 18:30:13 <pango>	I'm near Bordeaux
nov. 17 18:30:14 <sunny-pol>	i am from india
nov. 17 18:30:54 <sunny-pol>	tnx   very much
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nov. 17 18:43:24 <ripsnorter-pol>	hi there how can I install League Of Legends whit this soft
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nov. 17 18:45:08 <ripsnorter-pol>	onece again evrry one AfuckingK
nov. 17 18:45:38 <pango>	Install button > check "Testing" checkbox > Search for  "Leag..."
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nov. 17 19:25:32 <Dougie187>	just about phone call time.
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nov. 17 19:28:43 <gebruiker-pol>	hello everyone
nov. 17 19:28:53 <ptinou>	hello
nov. 17 19:29:07 <pango>	hi gebruiker-pol, bonsoir Quentin
nov. 17 19:29:11 <ptinou>	bonsoir
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nov. 17 19:29:54 <gebruiker-pol>	any body that english or ducth speaks here?
nov. 17 19:30:10 <ptinou>	english
nov. 17 19:30:25 <gebruiker-pol>	hej ptinou
nov. 17 19:30:37 <gebruiker-pol>	i'm new here
nov. 17 19:30:47 <pango>	ptinou: (Dougie187 is awaiting for a call from Blizzard just now)
nov. 17 19:30:51 <ptinou>	?
nov. 17 19:30:52 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 17 19:30:56 <ptinou>	what for?
nov. 17 19:30:59 <Dougie187>	A CS manager emailed me to give me a call
nov. 17 19:31:00 <Dougie187>	Ionno yet
nov. 17 19:31:04 <Dougie187>	they are calling me in ~10 minutes
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nov. 17 19:31:24 <ptinou>	don't hesitate to send them to me by mail if they need.
nov. 17 19:31:34 <Dougie187>	ok
nov. 17 19:31:40 <ptinou>	I will be able to give them some figures
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nov. 17 19:31:43 <Dougie187>	I don't quite know what they want yet. so I'm a bit nervous. :P
nov. 17 19:31:52 <Dougie187>	yeah, can I have those stats again?
nov. 17 19:31:53 <gebruiker-pol>	i have a problem with a program on ubuntu
nov. 17 19:31:57 <Dougie187>	for install script usages?
nov. 17 19:32:01 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 17 19:32:22 <pango>	gebruiker-pol: what program, what problem?
nov. 17 19:33:25 <gebruiker-pol>	playonlinux
nov. 17 19:33:35 <gebruiker-pol>	i want to install ms office
nov. 17 19:33:35 <Dougie187>	Where do I get the stats?
nov. 17 19:33:36 <gebruiker-pol>	2010
nov. 17 19:33:42 <gebruiker-pol>	on playonlinux
nov. 17 19:33:44 <gebruiker-pol>	but i got
nov. 17 19:33:45 <pango>	gebruiker-pol: ok
nov. 17 19:33:48 <gebruiker-pol>	an error
nov. 17 19:34:06 <pango>	gebruiker-pol: during installation?
nov. 17 19:34:16 <ptinou>	gebruiker-pol: update playonlinux.
nov. 17 19:34:28 <gebruiker-pol>	idd
nov. 17 19:34:32 <gebruiker-pol>	update?
nov. 17 19:34:34 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 17 19:34:38 <ptinou>	to the latest version.
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nov. 17 19:37:58 <Dougie187>	Are these the most up to date stats? http://www.aplu.fr/polistats/
nov. 17 19:38:03 <ptinou>	ype
nov. 17 19:38:15 <Dougie187>	k
nov. 17 19:38:15 <Dougie187>	:D
nov. 17 19:41:13 <gebruiker-pol>	no before the installing
nov. 17 19:41:47 <pango>	?
nov. 17 19:42:11 <gebruiker-pol>	the error on playonlinux
nov. 17 19:42:50 <pango>	at what moment then?
nov. 17 19:43:02 <gebruiker-pol>	the begin
nov. 17 19:43:14 <pango>	what message(s)?
nov. 17 19:44:20 <gebruiker-pol>	i do't know more
nov. 17 19:44:25 <gebruiker-pol>	forgotten
nov. 17 19:44:47 <pango>	takes notes :p
nov. 17 19:44:51 <pango>	-s
nov. 17 19:45:23 <gebruiker-pol>	oke
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nov. 17 19:53:37 <Dougie187>	So. they basically told me that if I send anymore tickets they will consider it harassment
nov. 17 19:58:43 <Marmotte>	and they think banning without giving any clear reason is not considered as theft ?
nov. 17 19:58:57 <Dougie187>	yup
nov. 17 19:59:24 <zoktar>	anyone getting swtor running?
nov. 17 19:59:42 <Dougie187>	He basically said that their hacks department has tried to create false positives and has been unsuccessful so far. And he would ask them if theres anymore information I can provide to be helpful, but I shouldn't call them or submit anymore tickets because they will consider it harassment.
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nov. 17 20:00:43 <sloan>	Hello all. Is there a way to kill all playonlinux software from the command line?
nov. 17 20:02:29 <pango>	mmmh that's a good question, exiting the GUI normally stops everything, but I wonder if that's also the case if it's killed by a signal, for example...
nov. 17 20:03:09 <sloan>	Similar to wineserver -k is what I'm looking for. I usually don't use the GUI for anything except to kill runaway progs.
nov. 17 20:03:17 <Dougie187>	can't you do pkill playonlinx?
nov. 17 20:03:26 <sloan>	Never tried that. Hold on.
nov. 17 20:03:31 <Dougie187>	nope, nm
nov. 17 20:03:38 <sloan>	won't work?
nov. 17 20:03:51 <Dougie187>	It doesn't kill the main window for me
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nov. 17 20:04:07 <sloan>	I'm not looking to kill the GUI itself, just whatever it is running.
nov. 17 20:04:52 <Dougie187>	I don't know if there's on for that either.
nov. 17 20:05:00 <sloan>	hmmmm.
nov. 17 20:05:00 <Dougie187>	mostly because the processes all have separate names
nov. 17 20:05:13 <Dougie187>	and wineserver -k (at least I think) will only kill one instance, for a specific wineprefix
nov. 17 20:05:24 <Dougie187>	So, you really need to execute wineserver -k in every wineprefix
nov. 17 20:05:25 <Marmotte>	killall wineserver ?
nov. 17 20:05:26 <sloan>	I wonder what the GUI uses for the command.
nov. 17 20:05:41 <sloan>	I think i tried that Marmotte, didn't work.
nov. 17 20:06:13 <pango>	sloan: for that command, the GUI keeps track of the list of PIDs
nov. 17 20:06:58 <pango>	so right now it cannot be automated without some cooperation with the GUI
nov. 17 20:07:46 <sloan>	Gotcha, pango. I suppose doing a killall on the program itself does the same thing, example killall Steam.exe
nov. 17 20:08:26 <sloan>	but processes remain...
nov. 17 20:10:07 <sloan>	killall services.exe winedevice.exe plugplay.exe explorer.exe tee works just as well. i think I'll experiment with that. Thank you to all who responded.
nov. 17 20:11:56 <pango>	yup, right now I don't think there's a simple way to achieve that (then again there's hidden features :p)
nov. 17 20:13:11 <sloan>	The following command works in killing Steam without leftover processes:
nov. 17 20:13:13 <sloan>	killall services.exe winedevice.exe plugplay.exe explorer.exe wineserver Steam.exe
nov. 17 20:13:19 <sloan>	Awesome.
nov. 17 20:13:43 <sloan>	pango, can you give an example of a hidden feature?
nov. 17 20:15:09 <pango>	there's playonlinux-bash to run script without going thru the GUI, or playonlinux-shell to get the POL console, again without the GUI
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nov. 17 20:17:24 <sloan>	Nice. I like that.
nov. 17 20:19:41 <sloan>	Good day all.
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nov. 17 20:55:21 <edgar-pol>	hola buenas tardes
nov. 17 20:55:21 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel edgar-pol
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nov. 17 21:35:37 <usuario-pol>	hello
nov. 17 21:35:40 <ptinou>	hello
nov. 17 21:35:50 <usuario-pol>	soy español
nov. 17 21:35:50 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel usuario-pol
nov. 17 21:35:57 <usuario-pol>	y tu¿?
nov. 17 21:36:13 <usuario-pol>	eeee
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nov. 17 23:48:21 <kevin-pol>	erm
nov. 17 23:48:30 <kevin-pol>	hello? ._.
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nov. 18 00:12:43 <noah-pol>	Using Play on Linux, League of Legends has installed and updated fine. I do know that the store is black screened, which is fine. But when loading a game, only a few of the character's portraits load, and even the game freezes. None of the loading bars for those characters show either.
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nov. 18 00:15:44 <camilo-pol>	how to install valve on pol
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nov. 18 00:24:06 <Nirtal>	camilo-pol valve?
nov. 18 00:25:06 <camilo-pol>	I mean steam
nov. 18 00:25:56 <Nirtal>	camilo-pol is it some specific game you want to install or do you just want to install steam for the chat or something else?
nov. 18 00:27:12 <camilo-pol>	just it, have some installer that do it?
nov. 18 00:27:27 <Nirtal>	yes pol seems to have an installerer for steam
nov. 18 00:27:46 <Nirtal>	but you know there is a native client for linux?
nov. 18 00:28:04 <camilo-pol>	I'll go check again
nov. 18 00:28:16 <camilo-pol>	yes, i do
nov. 18 00:28:50 <camilo-pol>	but I use fedora and my repo set don't found it
nov. 18 00:29:34 <Nirtal>	it's still in closed beta but it's possible anyway
nov. 18 00:30:13 <camilo-pol>	sure, thanks Nirtal
nov. 18 00:30:26 <Nirtal>	I did find someone who made an fedore package for steam but I can't remember how i founf it
nov. 18 00:33:29 <camilo-pol>	I found a winetricks solution for this, i'm going try right now. thanks again
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nov. 18 01:43:21 <Nirtal>	has anyone here any experience with playing POL games with an xbox 360 controller?
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nov. 18 02:14:27 <kaiser10x-pol>	hola
nov. 18 02:14:27 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel kaiser10x-pol
nov. 18 02:14:34 <kaiser10x-pol>	hi
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nov. 18 02:25:16 <antonahill-pom>	Hi. Can anyone help me with PlayOnMac?
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nov. 18 02:47:01 <ipodnerd>	Hello
nov. 18 02:47:21 <ipodnerd>	Has anyone had success installing Dota 2 on a Mac?
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nov. 18 05:26:29 <solomon-pol>	anyone knowledgable about skyrim without the steam wrapper
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nov. 18 11:43:18 <salvador-pol>	hay alguien español
nov. 18 11:43:18 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel salvador-pol
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nov. 18 15:19:58 <kluz>	If i have instalned linux  on partition  A. On on the same partition I have instaled PlayOnLinux is there any way that i can install games on partition B?
nov. 18 15:25:51 <pango>	using symlinks or mount --bind
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nov. 18 16:00:26 <zoktar>	anyone getting swtor runnung?
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nov. 18 17:29:42 <deepoff-pol>	hi all
nov. 18 17:30:54 <pango>	hi
nov. 18 17:30:54 <ptinou>	hi
nov. 18 17:31:06 <pango>	Bonsoir Quentin
nov. 18 17:31:20 <ptinou>	salut pierre
nov. 18 17:31:24 <ptinou>	j'ai vu aymeric aujourd'hui :p
nov. 18 17:31:40 <deepoff-pol>	hmm...
nov. 18 17:32:22 <pango>	ptinou: nan, je ne te crois pas, il existe vraiment ? :p
nov. 18 17:32:36 <ptinou>	:D
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nov. 18 17:34:18 <deepoff-pol>	anybody here speak in Russian?
nov. 18 17:34:24 <pango>	ptinou: plus sérieusement, c'était la première fois, ou c'est juste rare ?
nov. 18 17:34:35 <ptinou>	première fois :p
nov. 18 17:34:39 <ptinou>	on avait pas eu l'occaz avant
nov. 18 17:34:57 <pango>	cool
nov. 18 17:35:36 <pango>	deepoff-pol: I personally don't, but english is fine with me, if it's fine with you
nov. 18 17:36:45 <deepoff-pol>	it's don't fine with me, but i try )
nov. 18 17:37:34 <pango>	deepoff-pol: what's the problem?
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nov. 18 17:38:39 <deepoff-pol>	pango: firstly, good day )
nov. 18 17:38:54 <pango>	deepoff-pol: good day to you too :)
nov. 18 17:40:43 <pango>	ptinou: to increase audience, we should really find some scriptors to take care of free online games, surely those are popular
nov. 18 17:41:02 <ptinou>	yep
nov. 18 17:41:08 <ptinou>	that's a really great idea
nov. 18 17:41:53 <deepoff-pol>	pango: i don't want to voice my problems so far
nov. 18 17:42:12 <pango>	deepoff-pol: up to you, no problem
nov. 18 17:42:59 <deepoff-pol>	you are developers of playon linux?
nov. 18 17:44:18 <pango>	deepoff-pol: I'm seldom directly involved in the program itself, mostly in testing/debugging only, but I also write scripts, participate to users support, translations, whatnot
nov. 18 17:45:43 <pango>	ptinou is the main POL developer :)
nov. 18 17:45:44 <deepoff-pol>	your app is really cool
nov. 18 17:45:52 <ptinou>	thx
nov. 18 17:48:32 <deepoff-pol>	why POL requires point of mount my CD-rom?
nov. 18 17:49:53 <pango>	deepoff-pol: it does when you try to install some app that comes as a CDROM
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nov. 18 17:50:22 <koala-pol>	sdf
nov. 18 17:50:26 <pango>	?
nov. 18 17:50:47 <deepoff-pol>	no, it's want install from internet
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nov. 18 17:51:37 <pango>	deepoff-pol: maybe it's not supported by this specific install script, what app/game are you trying to install?
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nov. 18 18:04:46 <deepoff-pol>	pango: a'm trying to install rebirh
nov. 18 18:05:01 <deepoff-pol>	propellerhead's
nov. 18 18:05:40 <ptinou>	pango:  do you have a small new gog installer ?
nov. 18 18:06:01 <pango>	deepoff-pol:  you'll have to burn it to a CDROM or something, we give no support for images
nov. 18 18:06:20 <pango>	ptinou: small in that sense, short script?
nov. 18 18:06:26 <ptinou>	nope
nov. 18 18:06:27 <ptinou>	small file
nov. 18 18:06:42 <pango>	freebies, teenagent or lure of the temptress
nov. 18 18:07:25 <pango>	s/that/what/
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nov. 18 18:13:38 <dartosgamer-pol>	Should I run game through steam even iof they have separate installers for playonlinux?
nov. 18 18:13:48 <ptinou>	nope
nov. 18 18:13:54 <ptinou>	you should use playonlinux
nov. 18 18:13:59 <dartosgamer-pol>	What if i only have them on steam :(
nov. 18 18:14:07 <ptinou>	playonlinux will install steam
nov. 18 18:14:18 <dartosgamer-pol>	I have steam installed on play on linux but
nov. 18 18:14:25 <ptinou>	playonlinux will reinstall it
nov. 18 18:14:30 <dartosgamer-pol>	certain games (like dead space 2) have separate installers
nov. 18 18:14:40 <ptinou>	use the separate installers
nov. 18 18:14:51 <dartosgamer-pol>	But what if I only have the game on steam
nov. 18 18:15:02 <ptinou>	as I said, and I repeat
nov. 18 18:15:06 <ptinou>	playonlinux will install steam
nov. 18 18:15:33 <dartosgamer-pol>	ah a separate steam for each game
nov. 18 18:15:36 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 18 18:15:42 <dartosgamer-pol>	I thought you meant it would install it only once
nov. 18 18:15:53 <dartosgamer-pol>	oh okay ... how big is steam?
nov. 18 18:15:54 <ptinou>	nope
nov. 18 18:15:57 <ptinou>	small
nov. 18 18:15:59 <ptinou>	quite
nov. 18 18:16:10 <dartosgamer-pol>	okay then thanks
nov. 18 18:16:49 <dartosgamer-pol>	so installing steam the client is kind of pointless
nov. 18 18:17:32 <ptinou>	in general yes
nov. 18 18:17:50 <dartosgamer-pol>	okay. that makes sense
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nov. 18 18:27:14 <dartosgamer-pol>	Are gog's downloads always corrupted or is it just me?
nov. 18 18:29:11 <pango>	I can check
nov. 18 18:30:52 <pango>	Teenagent downloaded just fine, which one are you trying to download?
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nov. 18 18:37:53 <dhannequin-pol>	hello/salut
nov. 18 18:38:01 <pango>	Bonsoir dhannequin-pol 
nov. 18 18:38:37 <dhannequin-pol>	j'ai réussi à faire fonctionner D2 avec playonlinux
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nov. 18 18:39:17 <dhannequin-pol>	ça march nickel quand il y a toutes les lib
nov. 18 18:39:46 <dhannequin-pol>	par contre j'ai un souci avec BG2
nov. 18 18:40:01 <dhannequin-pol>	j'ai la version 4CD
nov. 18 18:40:12 <dhannequin-pol>	plus le CD de l'extension TOB
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nov. 18 18:41:34 <dhannequin-pol>	lorsque je lance le jeu il me demande le CD de TOB
nov. 18 18:41:43 <dhannequin-pol>	mais il est dans le lecteur
nov. 18 18:41:48 <dhannequin-pol>	et ne le trouver pas
nov. 18 18:42:11 <dhannequin-pol>	il est monté dans /run/media/user/BGTOB
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nov. 18 18:43:18 <dhannequin-pol>	qq a un retour d'exp sur ce jeux ?
nov. 18 18:43:45 <pango>	je connais la version GOG uniquement
nov. 18 18:44:54 <pango>	donc pas d'exp avec les problèmes de CD
nov. 18 18:45:07 <dhannequin-pol>	c'est une version nocd
nov. 18 18:45:41 <ptinou>	dhannequin-pol:  on ne supporte pas le piratage ici
nov. 18 18:45:47 <ptinou>	pango: pour la recréation d'instalelr GoG
nov. 18 18:45:55 <ptinou>	c'est faisable, mais faut juste récrire les fonctions GoG.com
nov. 18 18:46:07 <dhannequin-pol>	bah moi j'ai les CD mais un gros failed aussi
nov. 18 18:47:08 <Marmotte>	j'ai déjà réussi à lancer BG2 TOB avec PlayOnLinux, mais je ne sais plus ce que j'avais fait exactement, ça fait un bout de temps
nov. 18 18:47:27 <Marmotte>	je me rappelle juste que j'avais fait des ISO de mes CD pour éviter d'avoir à les mettre dans le lecteur
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nov. 18 18:55:47 <dhannequin-pol>	ptinou : je parlais pas de piratage, par exemple quand tu as acheter un jeux comme diablo2 tu as accès à la dernière version en tant que gros fichier et plus besoin de CD
nov. 18 18:56:02 <ptinou>	dans ce cas c'est pas un crack no cd
nov. 18 18:57:16 <dhannequin-pol>	par contre j'ai réussi à faire fonctionner BG2 sur ma Debian directement avec wine en faisant une copie des CD sur le disque dur
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nov. 18 19:13:46 <pango>	Je me tâte pour acheter Silent Storm... Le gameplay me fait penser à Jagged Alliance, avec des graphismes 3D très sympathiques, mais j'ai peur qu'il y ait un peu trop de micromanagement pour que j'y joue beaucoup :
nov. 18 19:13:47 <pango>	:p
nov. 18 19:26:49 <pango>	ptinou: http://www.playonlinux.com/en/topic-9719-GOGcom_Deponia__Install_Script.html what's the procedure to get one's scripts added to the repository?
nov. 18 19:27:27 <ptinou>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/supported_apps.html
nov. 18 19:27:29 <ptinou>	New installer
nov. 18 19:27:33 <ptinou>	then Ask for validation
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nov. 18 19:38:38 <dartosgamer-pol>	Steam won't log in using the dead space 2 installer. Anyone know a fix?
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nov. 18 19:39:20 <dartosgamer-pol>	steam won't log in using the dead space 2 installer. Anyone know a fix?
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nov. 18 19:40:32 <jesus-pol>	Someone know hot to install net framework 3.5 on ubuntu 12.4?
nov. 18 19:41:06 <dartosgamer-pol>	I think mono wine
nov. 18 19:41:14 <dartosgamer-pol>	look up wine mono on google
nov. 18 19:41:55 <dartosgamer-pol>	but .net stuff never works right on wine
nov. 18 19:42:24 <pango>	there's a function to install it (dotnet35), but I can't tell if it works at the moment
nov. 18 19:43:16 <pango>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/issue-1439.html
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nov. 18 19:45:16 <dartosgamer-pol>	Has anyone got grimrock working. I keep getting an error
nov. 18 19:45:27 <pango>	yup
nov. 18 19:45:36 <dartosgamer-pol>	how?
nov. 18 19:45:43 <dartosgamer-pol>	I have been trying for 3 hours
nov. 18 19:45:47 <pango>	just used the script
nov. 18 19:45:54 <dartosgamer-pol>	great
nov. 18 19:45:58 <pango>	when and how do you get an error?
nov. 18 19:46:01 <dartosgamer-pol>	f**** me then
nov. 18 19:46:13 <dartosgamer-pol>	it says use the default config,,, so i click okay
nov. 18 19:46:14 <pango>	(how = what error)
nov. 18 19:46:27 <ptinou>	dartosgamer-pol:  be polite.
nov. 18 19:46:27 <pango>	"it" meaning? be precise
nov. 18 19:46:34 <dartosgamer-pol>	then config.lua says it returned a nill value
nov. 18 19:46:39 <dartosgamer-pol>	wine i guess
nov. 18 19:47:06 <dartosgamer-pol>	COnfig.lua attempt to index a nil value
nov. 18 19:47:12 <dartosgamer-pol>	software failure message box
nov. 18 19:47:28 <pango>	is that the GOG version?
nov. 18 19:47:32 <pango>	or another
nov. 18 19:47:33 <dartosgamer-pol>	yeah
nov. 18 19:47:35 <dartosgamer-pol>	gog
nov. 18 19:47:44 <pango>	I have no config.lua in the virtual drive
nov. 18 19:48:00 <pango>	I should try to reinstall, maybe they changed something
nov. 18 19:48:01 <dartosgamer-pol>	first it asks me to revert to default config
nov. 18 19:48:26 <dartosgamer-pol>	I either hit okay or cancel. cancel kills the game so...
nov. 18 19:48:51 <dartosgamer-pol>	here goes 4th reinstall
nov. 18 19:49:27 <pango>	I'm reinstalling (including redownloading)
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nov. 18 19:50:02 <dartosgamer-pol>	I heard that GOG was changing their installer but I dont think that would affect the game after the install
nov. 18 19:50:31 <dartosgamer-pol>	yay wine mono download corrupted :D
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nov. 18 19:50:47 <pango>	doesn't seem LoG installer has been updated, it's still marked "1.0.0" in my list
nov. 18 19:51:22 <dartosgamer-pol>	well then its not that
nov. 18 19:51:49 <dartosgamer-pol>	wait the installer or the game?
nov. 18 19:51:54 <pango>	the installer
nov. 18 19:51:55 <dartosgamer-pol>	the game is marked 1.0.2.15 for me
nov. 18 19:51:59 <dartosgamer-pol>	ah okay
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nov. 18 19:52:24 <dartosgamer-pol>	too many POL windows 0.o
nov. 18 19:52:27 <pango>	:D
nov. 18 19:52:46 <dartosgamer-pol>	Go, reinstall! I choose you!
nov. 18 19:53:02 <pango>	if you prefer you can also join this channel using a dedicated IRC client
nov. 18 19:53:08 <pango>	 #playonlinux on Freenode network
nov. 18 19:53:20 <dartosgamer-pol>	yeah.. this is fine I just had 2 open somehow
nov. 18 19:53:26 <pango>	(half downloaded)
nov. 18 19:53:32 <dartosgamer-pol>	should I install DX when the installer asks me to?
nov. 18 19:53:40 <pango>	it shouldn't matter
nov. 18 19:53:50 <dartosgamer-pol>	then no it is
nov. 18 19:54:41 <dartosgamer-pol>	I am very...very angry
nov. 18 19:55:05 <ptinou>	calm down dartosgamer-pol please
nov. 18 19:55:05 <dartosgamer-pol>	today.. none of the humble bundle games work on 64bit
nov. 18 19:55:08 <dartosgamer-pol>	splice won't start
nov. 18 19:55:31 <dartosgamer-pol>	ptinou: I am not yelling... I am calmly statying that I am angry
nov. 18 19:55:37 <dartosgamer-pol>	stating*
nov. 18 19:55:55 <ptinou>	don't state it then. it's already very hard for us
nov. 18 19:56:18 <dartosgamer-pol>	I am not mad at you don't worry. I am trying with win 1.4.1
nov. 18 19:56:35 <dartosgamer-pol>	Play on linux usually is really good. I just probably broke something
nov. 18 19:57:26 <pango>	"download seems corrupted", I suppose they updated something then, need to update hashes
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nov. 18 19:58:31 <dartos>	there
nov. 18 19:58:45 <dartos>	Now I don't have to worry about exiting out of it again.
nov. 18 19:58:53 <pango>	yup
nov. 18 19:59:01 <dartos>	I am looking on my windows box to see if there is a file missing somewhere
nov. 18 20:00:03 <dartos>	the lua dll is not in the play on linux dir
nov. 18 20:00:31 <dartos>	pango: Is there a lua dll in your working grimrock install?
nov. 18 20:01:59 <pango>	I haven't reinstalled yet
nov. 18 20:02:10 <dartos>	pango: You deleted your working one?
nov. 18 20:02:29 <pango>	the MD5 seems to have changed indeed, and I'm thinking of downgrading Wine from 1.5.14 to the stable 1.4.1, if it works
nov. 18 20:02:38 <pango>	I renamed the working virtual drive
nov. 18 20:02:41 <dartos>	I tried
nov. 18 20:02:48 <dartos>	1.4.1 does the same thing
nov. 18 20:03:22 <dartos>	the error is coming from a function "autoDetecResolution
nov. 18 20:03:23 <dartos>	:
nov. 18 20:03:24 <dartos>	"
nov. 18 20:04:58 <dartos>	I took the cfg file from my windows box and put it in the linux box but the autodetect resolution function still failed
nov. 18 20:05:10 <dartos>	is there a way to set up a virtual desktop win POL?
nov. 18 20:05:40 <pango>	right-click on shortcut > Configure Wine > Graphics > Enable virtual desktop
nov. 18 20:06:05 <pango>	Installed, starts ok
nov. 18 20:06:08 <dartos>	well... I did that ... and still...nothing
nov. 18 20:06:14 <dartos>	well thats just great
nov. 18 20:06:32 <pango>	Will go a bit further and update the script hashes
nov. 18 20:07:21 <dartos>	I will re-redownload the game's installer. Also the autodownloaded one is always corrupted. not sure why
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nov. 18 20:07:54 <dartos>	unless those were the md5s you were talking about. then nvm
nov. 18 20:08:02 <pango>	has I said, they silently updated their installer, so I need to update the hashes in the script
nov. 18 20:08:49 <dartos>	okay so I will just manually download them for now
nov. 18 20:09:14 <pango>	seems to work, I'll push the changes
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nov. 18 20:10:08 <dartos>	would playonlinux auto get the script updates?
nov. 18 20:10:13 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 18 20:10:21 <dartos>	k
nov. 18 20:10:21 <pango>	I haven't updated it ye
nov. 18 20:10:23 <pango>	+t
nov. 18 20:10:54 <dartos>	okay
nov. 18 20:11:29 <pango>	ok, done
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nov. 18 20:14:24 <dartos>	so what is play on linux? gtk + python scripts?
nov. 18 20:14:55 <BlackNoxis>	dartos: pygtk
nov. 18 20:15:13 <dartos>	ah okay... also It won't let me log into gog :(
nov. 18 20:15:36 <pango>	did you enter your email?
nov. 18 20:16:01 <dartos>	yeah
nov. 18 20:16:05 <pango>	strange
nov. 18 20:16:07 <dartos>	wait
nov. 18 20:16:15 <dartos>	my roomate is trolling me
nov. 18 20:16:21 <dartos>	he blocked gog from our router
nov. 18 20:16:36 <pango>	mmh :p
nov. 18 20:16:43 <dartos>	lol
nov. 18 20:16:52 <dartos>	:D (convincing face)
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nov. 18 20:18:20 *	pango tries to resist playing LoG
nov. 18 20:18:51 <dartos>	pango: This game's dev blog is amazing
nov. 18 20:19:15 <dartos>	so just hit no to the directx installation or...
nov. 18 20:19:30 <pango>	personally I replied no
nov. 18 20:19:39 <dartos>	okay here goes
nov. 18 20:19:49 <dartos>	launch or exit installer
nov. 18 20:19:55 <dartos>	I want to do everything perfectly
nov. 18 20:19:56 <pango>	but at the time I tested it so it should work in both cases
nov. 18 20:20:07 <pango>	exit
nov. 18 20:20:20 <pango>	the install script must have a chance to complete
nov. 18 20:20:29 *	dartos nods
nov. 18 20:20:51 <dartos>	okay the moment of truth.. im going to press.... the run button
nov. 18 20:21:07 *	dartos just pulled his head off in anger
nov. 18 20:21:32 <dartos>	now the screen goes black.. it looks like it is going to start... then error
nov. 18 20:22:09 <pango>	do you get any warnings when POL starts?
nov. 18 20:22:18 <dartos>	direct3d9 is not available without OpenGL?
nov. 18 20:22:21 <dartos>	I have opengl
nov. 18 20:22:31 <dartos>	I am looking at the wine log
nov. 18 20:22:40 <pango>	Wine uses OpenGL to implement the DirectX API
nov. 18 20:22:42 <Cultist>	sounds like you need 32 bit compatibility libraries for your graphics card driver
nov. 18 20:22:54 <dartos>	I have the 32 and 64 bit libs tho :(
nov. 18 20:22:59 <ptinou>	dartos:  no
nov. 18 20:23:05 <ptinou>	POL tells you that you don't have 32 bits libraries
nov. 18 20:23:08 <ptinou>	it is NOT a lie
nov. 18 20:23:15 <ptinou>	so please tell it to us instead of trying to hide it :)
nov. 18 20:23:30 <dartos>	but I have them. it told me then I got them :(
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nov. 18 20:23:43 <ptinou>	it told you that you do NOT have them
nov. 18 20:24:01 <dartos>	Then I installed them...
nov. 18 20:24:25 <pango>	until this message disappears, something must still be broken
nov. 18 20:25:04 <dartos>	what is the yum package for it. I install mesa-libGL and mesa-libglapi both i686 versions
nov. 18 20:25:42 <pango>	what's your videocard?
nov. 18 20:25:52 <dartos>	GTX 560ti
nov. 18 20:26:32 <pango>	then you need to install the 32bit version of nVidia libraries
nov. 18 20:26:48 <pango>	not sure how it's packaged for your distro
nov. 18 20:26:51 *	dartos sighs
nov. 18 20:26:56 <dartos>	I am using fedora...
nov. 18 20:28:10 <dartos>	would it be kmod? or akmod?
nov. 18 20:28:49 <pango>	If you have accelerated display in 64bit apps, I assume kernel driver and 64bit libraries are installed fine
nov. 18 20:28:54 <pango>	just need to 32bit libs
nov. 18 20:28:59 <pango>	s/to/the/
nov. 18 20:29:10 <dartos>	what?
nov. 18 20:29:22 <pango>	you just need the 32bit version of the libraries
nov. 18 20:29:35 <dartos>	I know but I can't find them... TO #FEDORA
nov. 18 20:30:03 <pango>	maybe, because I've very little exp with Fedora
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nov. 18 20:30:29 <pango>	have old memories of RedHat 5, and a minimal experience of Fedora 17 in a VM
nov. 18 20:30:30 <dartosgamer>	I am going to use this nick here and the other on in #fedora
nov. 18 20:31:13 <Cultist>	can't use multiple nicks on one network
nov. 18 20:31:29 <Cultist>	without opening multiple clients anyway
nov. 18 20:31:41 <pango>	he can be logged in multiple times, yes
nov. 18 20:32:16 <dartosgamer>	well I can use the dartos nick on wine client in many channels
nov. 18 20:32:22 <dartosgamer>	but not 2 clients with the same nick
nov. 18 20:32:37 <dartos>	see
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nov. 18 20:33:35 <dartosgamer>	I installed the wrong driver libs
nov. 18 20:33:42 <dartosgamer>	now life is good
nov. 18 20:34:14 <dartosgamer>	I love you POL community for bering through my anger
nov. 18 20:34:25 <dartosgamer>	bearing*
nov. 18 20:34:43 <pango>	:)
nov. 18 20:35:10 <dartosgamer>	now off to grimrock
nov. 18 20:35:40 <dartosgamer>	oh by chance do any of you know how to get the logitech g35 surround sound working in games?
nov. 18 20:36:00 <pango>	not me :p
nov. 18 20:36:07 <dartosgamer>	I don't think you can
nov. 18 20:36:09 <dartosgamer>	ah well
nov. 18 20:36:38 <dartosgamer>	event the dungeon editor seems to work
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nov. 18 20:38:36 <dartosgamer>	is there a gog witcher 2 script
nov. 18 20:38:43 DarkNekros dartosgamer 
nov. 18 20:38:45 DarkNekros dartosgamer 
nov. 18 20:39:08 <pango>	dartosgamer: they're some floating around, but I can't test them because TW2 doesn't work on my computer
nov. 18 20:39:18 <dartosgamer>	lolk
nov. 18 20:39:26 <pango>	I just get the intro video at half speed, then the game loads forever
nov. 18 20:39:41 <dartosgamer>	lol
nov. 18 20:40:00 <dartosgamer>	well you guys are doing a great thing here
nov. 18 20:40:17 <dartosgamer>	to some extent it is better than getting games on windows "
nov. 18 20:40:27 <dartosgamer>	downloads and installs at the same time :D
nov. 18 20:40:40 <pango>	my script: https://github.com/petchema/playonlinux/blob/master/broken/thewitcher2-gog
nov. 18 20:40:57 <dartosgamer>	why is it broken?
nov. 18 20:41:04 <pango>	a contributed one: https://github.com/petchema/playonlinux/blob/master/contrib/thewitcher2-gog
nov. 18 20:41:18 <pango>	the game is broken for me, since I can't run it
nov. 18 20:41:35 <dartosgamer>	do you know of people who have been able to run it?
nov. 18 20:41:51 <dartosgamer>	why wouldn't it work on a normal witcher 2 installation?
nov. 18 20:42:03 <pango>	well, the contributed version comes from someone that managed to get it to run, for example
nov. 18 20:42:40 <pango>	what do you mean by normal TW2 installation?
nov. 18 20:42:51 <dartosgamer>	the normal script
nov. 18 20:43:11 <pango>	the normal script gives me the same result
nov. 18 20:43:34 *	dartosgamer shrugs
nov. 18 20:43:52 <pango>	https://github.com/petchema/playonlinux/wiki/The-witcher-2
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nov. 18 21:12:08 <ptinou>	Dougie187:  did you get your call?
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nov. 18 21:12:26 <pango>	he did
nov. 18 21:12:31 <ptinou>	?
nov. 18 21:12:44 <ptinou>	and ?
nov. 18 21:13:15 <pango>	they told him to stop or it would be considered harassment :p
nov. 18 21:13:22 <Dougie187>	The CS manager basically threatened me
nov. 18 21:13:34 <ptinou>	waho
nov. 18 21:13:53 <pango>	also, that they didn't manage to reproduce false positives
nov. 18 21:14:07 <Dougie187>	He didn't outright threaten me, as in he never really detailed what the consequences would be
nov. 18 21:14:20 <Dougie187>	but he said any further inquires related to the ban of my diablo 3 account would be considered harassment
nov. 18 21:15:00 <Dougie187>	This is what he said regarding to my ban.
nov. 18 21:15:03 <Dougie187>	"In regards to your first paragraph, I want to make sure that we are on the same page that our Hacks team is confident that the detections that resulted in closure of the account were not due to Linux or WINE. In the interest of doing everything possible to maintain the integrity of the system, as well as seeking out any opportunities to double check information against our own, I will be following up with the Hacks team to see 
nov. 18 21:16:01 <Dougie187>	He told me the last part was extremely unlikely though
nov. 18 21:16:12 <Dougie187>	meaning, the hacks department doesn't care to talk to anyone about it
nov. 18 21:16:37 <Dougie187>	It is restricted to purely internal studies, and no external information can be gathered or something like that
nov. 18 21:18:09 <Dougie187>	I had a pretty crappy day after that phone call though. :P
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nov. 18 21:21:27 <xingoo>	hello
nov. 18 21:21:35 <xingoo>	anyone that can assist me with wow?
nov. 18 21:21:36 <ptinou>	hello xingoo
nov. 18 21:21:36 <pango>	hi
nov. 18 21:22:00 <Dougie187>	what's not working with your WoW?
nov. 18 21:22:12 <xingoo>	I have a minor issue, it works great with playonlinx and all, (this program is kick-ass!!) but after 2-3 minutes i can't press some actions and cannot take loot
nov. 18 21:22:23 <xingoo>	I can click but nothing happends
nov. 18 21:22:43 <Dougie187>	What version of wine are you using? and do you do anything prior to that happening?
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nov. 18 21:23:05 <Dougie187>	pango & ptinou: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/how-to-use-netflix-on-ubuntu?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG%21+Ubuntu%21%29
nov. 18 21:23:10 <Dougie187>	Might be neat to make a script for it? :P
nov. 18 21:23:37 <xingoo>	1.4.1 and nothing out of the ordinary, I've tried restarting several times now, but same after 5 minutes and sometimes after 30 minutes stops working
nov. 18 21:24:01 <xingoo>	I've tried different wine versions too
nov. 18 21:25:30 <ptinou>	Dougie187:
nov. 18 21:25:35 <ptinou>	read the D3 terms
nov. 18 21:25:40 <ptinou>	and see
nov. 18 21:25:41 <ptinou>	if written
nov. 18 21:25:43 <ptinou>	somewhere
nov. 18 21:25:50 <Dougie187>	I've read them several times
nov. 18 21:25:54 <ptinou>	that blizzard is allowed to access to your disk during play
nov. 18 21:26:09 <Dougie187>	They are allowed to monitor your game
nov. 18 21:26:13 <Dougie187>	but that's really all it says
nov. 18 21:26:33 <Dougie187>	lemme find the quote
nov. 18 21:27:30 <dartosgamer>	Is there a problem with vsync in dead space 2?
nov. 18 21:27:48 <Dougie187>	http://pastebin.com/J6grzYR3
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nov. 18 21:27:59 <Dougie187>	They only access ram, not the disc
nov. 18 21:28:31 <ptinou>	are you really sure ?
nov. 18 21:28:33 <Dougie187>	xingoo: which versions of wine did you try?
nov. 18 21:28:47 <pango>	that's what the text says, at least
nov. 18 21:29:09 <Dougie187>	Unless you insinuate from the communication information that they can access your disc from that.
nov. 18 21:29:09 <ptinou>	what is said exactly ?
nov. 18 21:29:19 <Dougie187>	that pastebin says it
nov. 18 21:29:26 <Dougie187>	It's a direct quote from the EULA
nov. 18 21:29:42 <Dougie187>	I figured that would be better than pasting a large chunk if text in here. :P
nov. 18 21:29:43 <Dougie187>	http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/d3_eula.html
nov. 18 21:29:49 <Dougie187>	That's a link to the EULA though, if you want to read it
nov. 18 21:29:59 <Dougie187>	It's specifically Section 7. Consent to Monitor
nov. 18 21:30:02 <xingoo>	Dougie187, well first of all 1.4.1 then i've tried: 1.5.3 1.5.5 1.5.13 and 1.5.17
nov. 18 21:30:25 <ptinou>	Dougie187: it seems that it is not an automatic ban
nov. 18 21:30:28 <ptinou>	but a manual one
nov. 18 21:30:46 <dartosgamer>	I wonder... wine for windows... could you build wine for windows?
nov. 18 21:30:56 <ptinou>	nope
nov. 18 21:30:58 <ptinou>	already tried
nov. 18 21:31:05 <Dougie187>	well, considering they have "reviewed" my account that part is at least manual. But there's no telling if the original ban was manual or automatic
nov. 18 21:32:03 <ptinou>	I think that the thing is
nov. 18 21:32:24 <ptinou>	they have on there screen the code they found on your ram
nov. 18 21:32:36 <ptinou>	and according to them, they manually checked that, and it is a cheating progrma
nov. 18 21:32:46 <Dougie187>	No, that's not accurate.
nov. 18 21:32:48 <Dougie187>	Part of it is
nov. 18 21:32:50 <Dougie187>	but not the last bit.
nov. 18 21:33:02 <Dougie187>	I agree they have something they see in my ram
nov. 18 21:33:18 <Dougie187>	but they don't know what it is. It seems "suspicious" so they are assuming it's a cheating program
nov. 18 21:33:25 <Dougie187>	but they don't have a specific cheating program they are linking me to
nov. 18 21:33:51 <Dougie187>	(I say that last part because it's impossible, since I didn't use any cheating program)
nov. 18 21:34:43 <Dougie187>	either that, or something looked like it was trying to extract information from my RAM while the game was running
nov. 18 21:34:53 <Dougie187>	Like, maybe I was debugging something using GDB, ionno
nov. 18 21:35:05 <Dougie187>	It's almost impossible to tell what they noticed.
nov. 18 21:35:26 <ptinou>	a debugging program may be a sufficient reason to ban you
nov. 18 21:35:59 <Dougie187>	Sure, based on their definition. Which basically means I can't do work while I'm playing.
nov. 18 21:36:00 <dartosgamer>	is there a way to skip steam first time setup.. it has been going on for 15 mins
nov. 18 21:36:20 <Dougie187>	I don't know if I used GDB recently while D3 was open, I'm only speculating (since I use GDB a lot to debug my work programs)
nov. 18 21:36:49 <xingoo>	brb I have to reboot
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nov. 18 21:36:55 <Dougie187>	ok
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nov. 18 21:37:51 <Dougie187>	ptinou: part of the problem is there are almost an infinite number of legitimate things that blizzard could flag you for hacking with.
nov. 18 21:37:54 <xingoo>	I'm guessing my issue has to be one of a kind <_<
nov. 18 21:38:02 <Dougie187>	and it's almost impossible to determine which it is.
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nov. 18 21:38:13 <Dougie187>	xingoo: I haven't heard of anyone with the same issue
nov. 18 21:38:43 <xingoo>	Yeah I figured <_<
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nov. 18 21:43:58 <xingoo>	oo netflix for ubuntu sweet
nov. 18 21:44:21 <Dougie187>	ptinou: I'm not sure either, but I don't necessarily think using gdb on a completely unrelated application could be a real reason for you to get banned. I don't know if you readily have access to unrelated memory locations.
nov. 18 21:45:19 <ptinou>	it is a good reason
nov. 18 21:45:34 <ptinou>	if gdb was running
nov. 18 21:45:39 <ptinou>	i'm pretty sure that it is that
nov. 18 21:46:08 <Dougie187>	I have no idea if gdb was running. But part of the problem is the reasons for banning on the EULA explicitly states it has to be accessing memory in the locations that D3 is using.
nov. 18 21:46:23 <Dougie187>	And I don't know if (or how) you would access memory locations outside of the application you're debugging with GDB
nov. 18 21:46:46 <ptinou>	potentially, as root, you can access to every application you want
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nov. 18 21:46:56 <Dougie187>	Sure, but I don't even run gdb as root.
nov. 18 21:47:00 <hvad>	hello
nov. 18 21:47:02 <Dougie187>	ever* is what I meant
nov. 18 21:47:14 <ptinou>	hi hvad
nov. 18 21:47:18 <hvad>	ptinou: re salut
nov. 18 21:47:20 <ptinou>	Dougie187:  yes but how can they see that
nov. 18 21:47:42 <Dougie187>	If it's not accessing memory locations that D3 is using then it's not a legitmate reason to be banend.
nov. 18 21:47:43 <hvad>	ptinou: hvad = dhannequin-pol ;)
nov. 18 21:47:45 <ptinou>	hvad: c'était quoi déjà ? :D
nov. 18 21:47:56 <Dougie187>	The thing says this
nov. 18 21:47:59 <Dougie187>	"Use any unauthorized third-party software that intercepts, "mines", or otherwise collects information from or through the Game or the Service, including without limitation any software that reads areas of RAM used by the Game to store information;"
nov. 18 21:48:01 <ptinou>	Dougie187:  imagine how there are doing
nov. 18 21:48:07 <ptinou>	they read your ram
nov. 18 21:48:15 <ptinou>	"how, a program that allow user to modify the ram"
nov. 18 21:48:25 <hvad>	ptinou: je viens de créé un compte sur gog.com
nov. 18 21:48:27 <ptinou>	"why should user need to modify the ram during playing instead of cheating ?"
nov. 18 21:48:44 <Dougie187>	Nothing says anything about modifying the ram
nov. 18 21:48:49 <hvad>	ptinou: je vais acheter à nouveau baldur gate
nov. 18 21:48:52 <Dougie187>	It just says reading areas of ram that are in use by the program
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nov. 18 21:49:03 <ptinou>	hvad: ouaip
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nov. 18 21:50:09 <hvad>	ptinou: comme ça plus de pb CD
nov. 18 21:50:21 <ptinou>	ah oui :)
nov. 18 21:50:29 <ptinou>	et puis les scripts GoG sont de bonne qualité en plus
nov. 18 21:50:41 <pango>	;)
nov. 18 21:53:13 <hvad>	j'ai jamais trouvé un jeux mieux que BG 1 & 2
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nov. 18 22:21:59 <aplu>	bonsoir
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nov. 18 22:22:48 <pablo-pol>	ello
nov. 18 22:23:01 <aplu>	hello pablo-pol
nov. 18 22:23:52 <pablo-pol>	speak in spanish?
nov. 18 22:24:01 <ptinou>	no
nov. 18 22:24:05 <ptinou>	it is an english channel
nov. 18 22:24:06 <pablo-pol>	ok no pro
nov. 18 22:24:17 <pablo-pol>	no problem
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nov. 18 22:29:37 <pablo_llamas_col>	hi, i need some help, i've installed zsnes 1.42 but i can't find it
nov. 18 22:31:41 <pablo_llamas_col>	it's my first time using playonlinux
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nov. 18 22:32:48 <pablo_llamas_col>	?
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nov. 18 22:37:36 <pablo_llamas_col>	hello
nov. 18 22:38:14 <pango>	pablo_llamas_col: what's the link between zsnes and playonlinux?
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nov. 18 22:59:42 <dartosgamer>	What does the installer mean by "click on \'Forward\'
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nov. 18 23:07:26 <Miscni>	hi all
nov. 18 23:08:18 <pango>	hi Miscni 
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nov. 18 23:20:18 <pablo_llamas_col>	hi miscni
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nov. 18 23:20:48 <Miscni>	hi pango
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nov. 19 00:21:19 <dartosgamer>	What does the installer mean by "click on \'Forward\'
nov. 19 00:21:55 <pango>	probably "Next" button
nov. 19 00:22:37 <pango>	POL is translated using Launchpad, sometimes it's a bit approximative (translated out of context,...)
nov. 19 00:23:06 <ptinou>	it is forward indeed
nov. 19 00:27:44 <dartosgamer>	pango: Do you guys know about the steam text not showing up bug?
nov. 19 00:28:34 <Dougie187>	I've had that issue before.
nov. 19 00:28:37 <Dougie187>	I fixed it somehow though
nov. 19 00:28:54 <Dougie187>	Either by playing in a virtual desktop, or by installing fonts.
nov. 19 00:28:56 <Dougie187>	I forget which
nov. 19 00:30:27 <dartosgamer>	I know a fix for it but I would have to leave the installer :(
nov. 19 00:31:15 <Dougie187>	I fixed it after it was installed
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nov. 19 00:43:22 <dartosgamer>	why is it that my games don't use the same audio device as the rest of my computer?
nov. 19 00:43:27 <pango>	winetricks does not only copy TTFs to C:\windows\fonts, but also calls w_register_font() to immediately update the registry, POL_Wine_InstallFonts does not do that (should?)
nov. 19 00:44:54 DarkNekros dartosgamer 
nov. 19 00:45:08 <pango>	dartosgamer: Wine is compiled to use ALSA drivers
nov. 19 00:46:02 <dartosgamer>	actually it is just grimrock that is not working
nov. 19 00:48:17 <pango>	if your distro is using PulseAudio, you can try running pulseaudio -k in a terminal before starting the game
nov. 19 00:50:16 <dartosgamer>	what does that do?
nov. 19 00:50:33 <dartosgamer>	better yet... how do i undo it?
nov. 19 00:51:06 <pango>	stop the pulseaudio daemon, releasing the underneath sound device
nov. 19 00:51:24 <dartosgamer>	how do i undo it... all my audio devices are gane
nov. 19 00:51:25 <dartosgamer>	gone*
nov. 19 00:51:45 <pango>	nothing to do to "undo" it, apps that use the pulseaudio daemon will respawn it if they can't find it
nov. 19 00:52:53 <dartosgamer>	no
nov. 19 00:52:58 <dartosgamer>	all my devices are still gone...
nov. 19 00:53:22 <pango>	then that cancer is gone worse than it used to be :p
nov. 19 00:53:34 <dartosgamer>	really
nov. 19 00:54:05 <pango>	I think it can be respawned manually with just "pulseaudio", but it's supposed to be automatic
nov. 19 00:54:30 <dartosgamer>	says the daemon is running but my mixer isn't showing any devices
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nov. 19 00:54:57 <dartosgamer>	there
nov. 19 00:55:02 <dartosgamer>	good ol kmix
nov. 19 00:55:24 <dartosgamer>	now what would that do?
nov. 19 00:55:41 <pango>	what would what do?
nov. 19 00:56:02 <dartosgamer>	pulseaudio -k ... how would that help? everything would default to my speakers not my headphones
nov. 19 00:56:52 <pango>	Do you have no sound in LoG, or just not the right sound output?
nov. 19 00:57:15 <dartosgamer>	not the right output
nov. 19 00:57:22 <pango>	ok, so it won't help
nov. 19 00:57:34 <dartosgamer>	ah good to know
nov. 19 00:57:45 <dartosgamer>	I'll fix it tomorrow
nov. 19 00:57:49 <pango>	that's just a workaround when pulseaudio gets in the way of reaching the ALSA devices
nov. 19 00:58:25 <pango>	about to go to bed too, 1am :p
nov. 19 01:00:19 <dartosgamer>	now  none of my devices show up on amarok
nov. 19 01:00:51 <pango>	worse case it should fix itself by relogging, I suppose pulseaudio clients got confused
nov. 19 01:01:26 <dartosgamer>	I have to wait for witcher 2
nov. 19 01:02:28 <pango>	does restarting amarok help?
nov. 19 01:02:40 <dartosgamer>	no
nov. 19 01:02:52 <dartosgamer>	its strange all my devices show up in kmix
nov. 19 01:03:09 <dartosgamer>	but not in phonon
nov. 19 01:03:47 <dartosgamer>	a relog probably will fix it
nov. 19 01:03:50 <dartosgamer>	that or a reboot
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nov. 19 02:23:22 <tupax-pol>	hiii, i need help with the game League of legends...the backgraund is black :S
nov. 19 02:24:48 <tupax-pol>	nobody play lol?
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nov. 19 03:45:52 <dartosgamer>	how do I install the steam version of oblivion?
nov. 19 03:46:06 <dartosgamer>	Is there even a way to do that?
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nov. 19 05:21:34 <Paki-pom>	Hello
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nov. 19 12:12:28 <joo-pol>	Hello, everyone. Quick Question. So, wine-mono installs itself into every prefix that I create in POL, but I can install .net in POL too. I thought these two things dont work right when together. Can someone clarify? Im just wondering if I should be using wine-mono or uninsatlling mono, and install .net 3.5 or even 4.0?
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nov. 19 15:35:48 <ivanakovlev-pom>	Привет всем
nov. 19 15:35:48 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel ivanakovlev-pom
nov. 19 15:35:48 <ivanakovlev-pom>	 
nov. 19 15:36:40 <ivanakovlev-pom>	hi all
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nov. 19 17:36:10 <goldenghost-pom>	hi im I 've got a problem installing Packet tracer any help?
nov. 19 17:36:25 <ptinou>	what is your problem ?
nov. 19 17:37:20 <goldenghost-pom>	I try to install Packet tracer but I won't run
nov. 19 17:37:29 <ptinou>	what do you mean by it won't run ...
nov. 19 17:38:03 <goldenghost-pom>	sorry it doesn't run i get a error
nov. 19 17:38:23 <ptinou>	tell me the error
nov. 19 17:39:46 <goldenghost-pom>	Bear with me a moment please
nov. 19 17:42:51 <goldenghost-pom>	hello this is Program Error details
nov. 19 17:43:11 <ptinou>	… I can't help you sorry
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nov. 19 18:58:02 <dgzt-pol>	Hi
nov. 19 18:58:18 <pango>	hi
nov. 19 18:58:24 <ptinou>	tiens salut pango
nov. 19 18:58:24 <dgzt-pol>	Anybody can halp me?
nov. 19 18:58:48 <pango>	Bonsoir Quentin
nov. 19 18:58:50 <pango>	dgzt-pol: shoot
nov. 19 19:00:24 <dgzt-pol>	I want install FIFA 2005 from iso. I mounted to /mnt, Select setup.exe, but don't start the setup. Don't find the own library. How can I configure winecfg, find that?
nov. 19 19:00:38 <pango>	we do not support the use of images
nov. 19 19:02:30 <dgzt-pol>	And original CDs?
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nov. 19 19:05:41 <pango>	dgzt-pol: there's no script for FIFA 2005, but it's rated Platinum on the AppDB, so a manual installation may work
nov. 19 19:06:34 <dgzt-pol>	Ok, thanks.
nov. 19 19:07:09 <Dougie187>	How's it going pango?
nov. 19 19:07:27 <pango>	Hi Dougie187
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nov. 19 19:08:24 <pango>	Spent good part of the day working on my resume :p
nov. 19 19:08:34 <FLHerne>	squid
nov. 19 19:08:39 <pango>	?
nov. 19 19:08:48 <FLHerne>	Oops, wron text-entry box :-(
nov. 19 19:08:56 <pango>	;)
nov. 19 19:18:16 <Dougie187>	Cool, hows that working? Almost done?
nov. 19 19:18:48 <pango>	Nope, I need to keep something to do for the rest of the week :p
nov. 19 19:19:28 <Dougie187>	hah
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nov. 19 20:42:28 <DJYoshaBYD>	Greetings, all. I noticed there is a newer version in development (4.1.9), and I want to install it, but once I get the GIT (pardon the pun), I can run it, but I want it installed globally like the deb installs. is there a way to do this, or do I have to copy it over the old files by hand?
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nov. 19 20:45:40 <rhw-pol>	Hello everyone
nov. 19 20:45:54 <pango>	hi
nov. 19 20:46:39 <rhw-pol>	I need to know, I am getting message that PlayOnLinux new version 4.1.8 is available without saying how could I upgrade the one I have..... Can anyone help me please?
nov. 19 20:46:47 <pango>	!download
nov. 19 20:46:47 <PlayOnLinux>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
nov. 19 20:47:22 <rhw-pol>	It means I have to remove first and then I can install new one?
nov. 19 20:47:30 <Dougie187>	what OS are you using?
nov. 19 20:47:39 <rhw-pol>	Zrion OS 6
nov. 19 20:47:40 <Dougie187>	mine updates in my package manager.
nov. 19 20:47:44 <Dougie187>	I have no idea then. :P
nov. 19 20:47:53 <Dougie187>	Never heard of that before.
nov. 19 20:48:12 <pango>	follow Ubuntu instructions
nov. 19 20:48:47 <rhw-pol>	OK thnaks anyway.  But when you downloaded this... then what you did?
nov. 19 20:49:29 <DJYoshaBYD>	Anyone have an idea how to install 4.1.9?
nov. 19 20:49:33 <pango>	follow instructions for Ubuntu, it will add PlayOnLinux repository to the Software Center, then PlayOnLinux will be updated like other packages
nov. 19 20:50:29 <rhw-pol>	Alrigth thank you very much...
nov. 19 20:51:08 <DJYoshaBYD>	Im not able to update to 4.1.9 through repos. maybe I have the wrong one? When I go to synaptic (using ubuntu 12.10, 64 bit), i only see 4.1.1-1, so I just installed the deb for 4.1.8. Is there a repo to add for the bleeding-edge version that is on github?
nov. 19 20:51:44 <Dougie187>	You probably don't have the PoL ppa.
nov. 19 20:51:49 <pango>	there's http://beta.playonlinux.com/, I don't know how up-to-date it is
nov. 19 20:51:57 <Dougie187>	that's probably just the official ubuntu repo, so it's most likely frozen with 4.1.1
nov. 19 20:51:58 <DJYoshaBYD>	Is there even one for quantal?
nov. 19 20:52:02 <rhw-pol>	4.1.9 is not yet out to best of my knowledge.  So you have new one 4.1.8
nov. 19 20:52:07 <Dougie187>	I'm on quantal, and I don't have 4.1.1
nov. 19 20:52:22 <pango>	personally I just run the dev version from the GIT checkout
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nov. 19 20:52:29 <pango>	I don't know how it's packaged
nov. 19 20:52:48 <DJYoshaBYD>	ahhhh. found it
nov. 19 20:53:00 <DJYoshaBYD>	sweeeeeet. thanks. Its in a deb. 4.1.9-8
nov. 19 20:53:06 <DJYoshaBYD>	gracias!
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nov. 19 21:11:27 <War>	hola
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nov. 19 21:11:27 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel War
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nov. 19 21:19:10 <hubert-pol>	hi I can not install java on playon linux !?
nov. 19 21:19:35 <ptinou>	why ?
nov. 19 21:19:39 <ptinou>	and hello
nov. 19 21:19:49 <hubert-pol>	it message pop up
nov. 19 21:20:02 <hubert-pol>	like some wapper.create
nov. 19 21:20:36 <hubert-pol>	I try instal Flashdevelop
nov. 19 21:20:41 <hubert-pol>	and I manage to do it
nov. 19 21:20:51 <hubert-pol>	somway 1 ?!
nov. 19 21:20:59 <hubert-pol>	so I am sure now it is possible
nov. 19 21:21:22 <hubert-pol>	but try to instal other activeX flash and all crush
nov. 19 21:21:31 <hubert-pol>	so i try isnal all step by step
nov. 19 21:21:45 <hubert-pol>	to run Flashdevelop i need .NET 2.0 SP1
nov. 19 21:21:53 <hubert-pol>	and java runtime 1.6+
nov. 19 21:22:11 <hubert-pol>	and ActiveX for IE Flashplayer
nov. 19 21:22:23 <hubert-pol>	and then I shouldbe able to instal Flashdevelop
nov. 19 21:23:08 <hubert-pol>	I start from scrach, instal net20SP1 from library
nov. 19 21:23:28 <hubert-pol>	instal ActiveX IE flashplayer
nov. 19 21:23:36 <hubert-pol>	and now need java :!
nov. 19 21:24:08 <hubert-pol>	it is any chanse anyone can tell me anything how to work it out ?
nov. 19 21:24:27 <hubert-pol>	i sure I can run it as I dose 2 hours ago ! :(
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nov. 19 21:24:43 <hubert-pol>	I shouldn't touched
nov. 19 21:25:09 <hubert-pol>	ptinou do you have any idea ?!
nov. 19 21:25:31 <ptinou>	no sorry
nov. 19 21:26:02 <hubert-pol>	can I ask how you install java on !?
nov. 19 21:26:10 <hubert-pol>	did you need that before ?
nov. 19 21:26:14 <ptinou>	no
nov. 19 21:26:49 <hubert-pol>	ok , long night on front of me :(
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nov. 19 21:29:31 <hubert-pol>	is any think mean to any one like : Wrapper.CreateFile faild with error 3: Path not found
nov. 19 21:29:33 <hubert-pol>	???
nov. 19 21:29:42 <hubert-pol>	failed
nov. 19 21:31:13 <hubert-pol>	or what exacly is gecko , and mono !?
nov. 19 21:32:56 <hubert-pol>	I just wounder is anyone read this messages ?!
nov. 19 21:33:59 <hubert-pol>	great
nov. 19 21:34:07 <hubert-pol>	see you then 1:)
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nov. 19 22:26:28 <karolkens-pol>	hello
nov. 19 22:26:45 <karolkens-pol>	does league of legends work on ubuntu 12.04 64b?
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nov. 19 22:27:58 <karolkens-pol>	anybody?
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nov. 19 22:33:39 <Dougie187>	People are so impatient.
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nov. 19 22:39:30 <joao-pol>	hi to everyone
nov. 19 22:39:36 <joao-pol>	i need some help
nov. 19 22:40:24 <joao-pol>	is the anyone there?
nov. 19 22:40:27 <joao-pol>	?
nov. 19 22:42:39 <Dougie187>	Whats up?
nov. 19 22:42:57 <Dougie187>	btw, you need to be patient in places like this. Everyone isn't always around.
nov. 19 22:43:04 <Dougie187>	Or looking at the window 100% of the time
nov. 19 22:47:50 <joao-pol>	sorry
nov. 19 22:48:33 <joao-pol>	first im portuguese so my english i not very good
nov. 19 22:48:55 <joao-pol>	so my problem
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nov. 19 22:49:48 <joao-pol>	i installed office 2010
nov. 19 22:50:03 <joao-pol>	so far so fine
nov. 19 22:51:55 <joao-pol>	the only problem is i cant pre-define office documents to open with office 2010
nov. 19 22:52:53 <joao-pol>	when i make right click i cant find option to make the file pre-defined
nov. 19 22:53:00 <joao-pol>	so what can i do
nov. 19 22:53:01 <joao-pol>	?
nov. 19 22:53:51 <joao-pol>	im thinking if the problem is on the distros im using
nov. 19 22:54:11 <joao-pol>	(elementar os luna beta1)
nov. 19 22:54:13 <Dougie187>	I have no idea. I don't know how to define applications to open with mime types
nov. 19 22:54:28 <Dougie187>	You might look up mime type things though. Maybe that would help some
nov. 19 22:55:12 <joao-pol>	hummm
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nov. 19 22:55:52 <joao-pol>	i think im gonna try to install office from wine
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nov. 19 22:56:14 <joao-pol>	it worked every time
nov. 19 22:56:30 <Dougie187>	ok
nov. 19 22:56:42 <joao-pol>	thanks anyway
nov. 19 22:56:45 <Dougie187>	np
nov. 19 22:56:45 <Dougie187>	gl
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nov. 19 23:21:24 <victor-pol>	any League of legends player here?
nov. 19 23:21:32 <Dougie187>	there have been several
nov. 19 23:22:16 <victor-pol>	hi hi hi ?
nov. 19 23:22:35 <Dougie187>	I'm not one. but hi
nov. 19 23:22:43 <victor-pol>	hiii
nov. 19 23:23:13 <victor-pol>	how are you man?
nov. 19 23:23:16 <Dougie187>	Good
nov. 19 23:23:17 <Dougie187>	you?
nov. 19 23:23:27 <victor-pol>	hmmm
nov. 19 23:23:49 <victor-pol>	I'm having some problems
nov. 19 23:23:55 <victor-pol>	in playonlinux
nov. 19 23:24:00 <Dougie187>	yeah?
nov. 19 23:24:05 <Dougie187>	I have to leave in like 20 minutes just so you know
nov. 19 23:24:40 <victor-pol>	oh, okok
nov. 19 23:24:58 <victor-pol>	you use linux right?
nov. 19 23:25:16 <Dougie187>	yes
nov. 19 23:25:48 <victor-pol>	i use ubuntu, and can't install the elder scrolls morrowind
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nov. 19 23:26:21 <victor-pol>	i have the .iso but  and have used all programs to create a virtual drive unit
nov. 19 23:27:07 <Dougie187>	I guess PoL developers don't support installation from iso files.
nov. 19 23:27:27 <victor-pol>	how so?
nov. 19 23:27:46 <Dougie187>	That's what was said in here earlier.
nov. 19 23:29:23 <victor-pol>	understand..
nov. 19 23:29:41 <victor-pol>	well, thx man. =)
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nov. 19 23:32:37 <zxcv>	what program do you use to run .iso files?
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nov. 19 23:34:39 <zxcv>	Hi hi hi?
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nov. 19 23:40:03 <mime-pol>	hey ppl! any way to install and play sof2mp gold?
nov. 19 23:40:07 <mime-pol>	thnx ppl
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nov. 19 23:41:10 <mime-pol>	im trying to launch my cd, but playonlin dont let me...
nov. 19 23:45:17 <zxcv>	hiii
nov. 19 23:45:26 <zxcv>	mime
nov. 19 23:45:29 <zxcv>	?
nov. 19 23:47:19 <mime-pol>	hi
nov. 19 23:47:42 <mime-pol>	if u got a solution for that ill be very happy
nov. 19 23:48:21 <mime-pol>	greeeeenaaaadeee
nov. 19 23:48:42 <zxcv>	man, i think that i have the same problem
nov. 19 23:49:02 <zxcv>	man, you have the cd of game or the .ISO file?
nov. 19 23:49:24 <mime-pol>	yeah, and cannot install wine 1 or 0.90 that seems are the versions, in kde 12.=
nov. 19 23:49:30 <mime-pol>	yeah
nov. 19 23:49:33 <mime-pol>	original
nov. 19 23:49:49 <mime-pol>	?
nov. 19 23:50:09 <mime-pol>	POL refuses to launch cd
nov. 19 23:50:26 <mime-pol>	and cannot try with other wine versions, prior 1
nov. 19 23:51:34 <zxcv>	then I'm sorry, I think we have different problems and do not know how to help you with your
nov. 19 23:52:02 <mime-pol>	maybe u got the sofmp_default.cfg one?
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nov. 19 23:52:53 <zxcv>	I'm trying to create a virtual drive emulate a disk with a file. iso because I'm on a netbook.
nov. 19 23:53:00 <mime-pol>	please zxcv, can you say wich problem u though i ve got?
nov. 19 23:53:09 <mime-pol>	ok
nov. 19 23:53:37 <mime-pol>	ca then ppl
nov. 19 23:53:41 <mime-pol>	cya
nov. 19 23:53:56 <zxcv>	cya, good luck
nov. 19 23:54:01 <mime-pol>	=
nov. 19 23:54:16 <mime-pol>	we'll run it, remember our nicks
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nov. 20 01:53:38 <ryanvade>	does anyone know of a way to play Age of empires III with Play on linux?
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nov. 20 02:03:13 <ryanvader>	So, any workarounds for Age of Empires III?\
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nov. 20 04:02:29 <milagros-pol>	hola
nov. 20 04:02:29 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel milagros-pol
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nov. 20 08:00:50 <waldy-pol>	hi
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nov. 20 08:01:20 <waldy-pol>	hi all, please help!!
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nov. 20 09:56:11 <guillaume-pol>	i all ! do you have a tutorial to install adobe air with playonlinux please ?
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nov. 20 13:31:47 <hasan-pol>	hello there
nov. 20 13:32:11 <hasan-pol>	any bothy there?
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nov. 20 14:16:53 <lukasz-pol>	hi guys, could you help me update PoL on Ubuntu? I have version 4.1.3 and dont know how to migrate to 1.8
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nov. 20 14:19:47 <mime-pol>	hey ppl, is any way to play soldier of fortune double helix multi player with any software? i used to play it years ago in linux, but with the new ones, it is impossible, any help would be great notices, thank you all
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nov. 20 14:21:17 <Timbo-pom>	i cannot get runes of magic to install using playonmac
nov. 20 14:22:51 <lukasz-pol>	could you help me update PoL on Ubuntu? I have version 4.1.3 and dont know how to migrate to 1.8
nov. 20 14:23:35 <mime-pol>	there is a serious problem with sh*itdows
nov. 20 14:25:02 <mime-pol>	i readed that sof2 is now bankrupted, and any with a lot of millions can make it working
nov. 20 14:25:17 <mime-pol>	is pathetic
nov. 20 14:25:38 <mime-pol>	i spend money on that software
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nov. 20 14:26:08 <mime-pol>	may let those who want develop it with non malicious intentions do it
nov. 20 14:27:42 <mime-pol>	if anyone read taht and have the solution, plz write me at mistermime122@ gmail.co  m
nov. 20 14:27:45 <mime-pol>	thnx all
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nov. 20 14:29:31 <lukasz-pol>	hi, please tell me how to update play on linux. when I paste the command from the download page it doesnt work
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nov. 20 14:41:20 <lukasz-pol>	where can I find people who are smart enough to update Play on Linux to newest version?
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nov. 20 16:40:35 <N5030-pol>	hi
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nov. 20 16:41:35 <victor-pol>	ы
nov. 20 16:41:35 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel victor-pol
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nov. 20 16:50:21 <meow-pol>	Руссаки есть?
nov. 20 16:50:21 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel meow-pol
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nov. 20 16:59:11 <xyproto>	hi, the instructions for Arch Linux on the webpage are wrong, [archlinuxfr] is not needed anymore, just "pacman -Sy playonlinux". It's been in the official repos since august :)
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nov. 20 17:40:25 <ikemann-pol>	hello
nov. 20 17:40:30 <ptinou>	hello
nov. 20 17:40:38 <ikemann-pol>	:)
nov. 20 17:40:57 <ikemann-pol>	i just noticed this messenger
nov. 20 17:41:01 <ikemann-pol>	on pol
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nov. 20 17:41:09 <ikemann-pol>	so thought i would try it out
nov. 20 17:41:10 <ikemann-pol>	:)
nov. 20 17:41:12 <ptinou>	:)
nov. 20 17:42:50 <ikemann-pol>	thanks for saying hello
nov. 20 17:42:51 <ikemann-pol>	:)
nov. 20 17:42:54 <ikemann-pol>	bye now
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nov. 20 18:21:30 <luc1hz-pol>	hi
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nov. 20 20:19:17 <thehousephanter->	hello there just a question is it dificult to install steam on linux ?
nov. 20 20:19:34 <Dougie187>	no
nov. 20 20:19:37 <thehousephanter->	im trying since this morning im getting nups
nov. 20 20:19:39 <Dougie187>	it's very easy
nov. 20 20:19:48 <Dougie187>	took me something like 10 miuntes
nov. 20 20:19:57 <thehousephanter->	seriously?
nov. 20 20:20:05 <thehousephanter->	-.-
nov. 20 20:20:06 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 20 20:20:13 <thehousephanter->	i select steam
nov. 20 20:20:20 <thehousephanter->	but my playonlinux crashes
nov. 20 20:20:25 <thehousephanter->	in wine
nov. 20 20:20:26 <Dougie187>	what version?
nov. 20 20:20:32 <thehousephanter->	lastest one
nov. 20 20:20:36 <Dougie187>	4.1.8>
nov. 20 20:20:37 <Dougie187>	?
nov. 20 20:20:38 <thehousephanter->	yup
nov. 20 20:21:03 <thehousephanter->	wine version 1.5.10
nov. 20 20:21:15 <Dougie187>	I'm using wine 1.4.1 I think
nov. 20 20:21:18 <Dougie187>	for steam
nov. 20 20:22:18 <thehousephanter->	Thank you Dougie
nov. 20 20:22:28 <thehousephanter->	your help was really appreciated
nov. 20 20:22:29 <thehousephanter->	:)
nov. 20 20:22:41 <Dougie187>	np
nov. 20 20:26:40 <thehousephanter->	im going
nov. 20 20:26:50 <Dougie187>	It's working?
nov. 20 20:26:51 <thehousephanter->	good night
nov. 20 20:26:52 <Dougie187>	or you're leaving?
nov. 20 20:26:59 <Dougie187>	Ok, night!
nov. 20 20:27:57 <thehousephanter->	im still downloading
nov. 20 20:28:02 <Dougie187>	ok, Good luck!
nov. 20 20:28:05 <thehousephanter->	i'll wait :)
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nov. 20 20:29:59 <thehousephanter->	now its downloading gecko
nov. 20 20:32:15 <thehousephanter->	should i download steam.msi from their website
nov. 20 20:32:22 <thehousephanter->	or download from POL
nov. 20 20:32:25 <Dougie187>	No, in PoL it downloads it for you
nov. 20 20:32:41 <thehousephanter->	okie pokie
nov. 20 20:35:18 <thehousephanter->	its asking me a virtual drive namew
nov. 20 20:35:24 <thehousephanter->	what should i put ?
nov. 20 20:35:37 <Dougie187>	I just use the default
nov. 20 20:35:42 <Dougie187>	But you could name it Steam
nov. 20 20:36:00 <thehousephanter->	Error in POL_WineWine seems to have crashedIf your program is running, just ignore this message
nov. 20 20:36:05 <androiden-pol>	hi!
nov. 20 20:36:14 <thehousephanter->	:(
nov. 20 20:36:15 <pango>	hi androiden-pol 
nov. 20 20:36:26 <androiden-pol>	how to install steam on POL?
nov. 20 20:36:30 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 20 20:37:12 <thehousephanter->	seriously why did it crash ?
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nov. 20 20:38:27 <androiden-pol>	found it. Pretty easy )
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nov. 20 20:38:38 <thehousephanter->	link plz
nov. 20 20:38:43 <thehousephanter->	androiden-pol
nov. 20 20:38:50 <thehousephanter->	im trying toinstall steam myself
nov. 20 20:39:33 <androiden-pol>	try to click "games" )
nov. 20 20:39:43 <thehousephanter->	im using 64bit os
nov. 20 20:39:53 <androiden-pol>	me 2
nov. 20 20:40:18 <thehousephanter->	steam is there
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nov. 20 20:40:36 <Derpyeahs>	yeah why isn't there a playonwindows? -jking- XD
nov. 20 20:40:37 <thehousephanter->	but when i install it
nov. 20 20:40:37 <thehousephanter->	Error in POL_WineWine seems to have crashedIf your program is running, just ignore this message
nov. 20 20:40:37 <thehousephanter->	i cant even install it
nov. 20 20:40:40 <thehousephanter->	wich  version of wine
nov. 20 20:40:45 <thehousephanter->	you using
nov. 20 20:41:55 <androiden>	i'd like to know. POL just downloaded it
nov. 20 20:42:33 <Dougie187>	You can check by selecting the virtual drive and clicking configure
nov. 20 20:42:41 <Derpyeahs>	dougie
nov. 20 20:42:49 <Derpyeahs>	why isn't there playonwindows -jknig- : P
nov. 20 20:42:49 <Dougie187>	Whats up?
nov. 20 20:42:59 <Dougie187>	Because that already exists. :P
nov. 20 20:43:03 <Derpyeahs>	o_o
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nov. 20 20:43:41 <Derpyeahs>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c70pCqMvqOg
nov. 20 20:47:32 <Derpyeahs>	why is my windows lagging?   did u hire somone to wash it?  yeah...   -there u go    worst. window washer EVER...microsoft : P
nov. 20 20:49:17 <Derpyeahs>	microsoft washes all there windows :( :p
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nov. 20 20:53:51 <thehousephanter->	is there any problem of my system beeing 64bits ? to play counter strike GO on steam ?
nov. 20 20:54:03 <Dougie187>	no, I'm playing TF2 on 64bit
nov. 20 20:54:22 <thehousephanter->	i dont know what to do
nov. 20 20:54:25 <thehousephanter->	apt-cache show ia32-libs
nov. 20 20:54:33 <Dougie187>	delete your wineprefix, and try again? :P
nov. 20 20:54:37 <thehousephanter->	it says when i run PoL
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nov. 20 20:55:37 <Derpyeahs>	lol
nov. 20 20:55:51 <Derpyeahs>	just keep switching wines.
nov. 20 20:55:57 <Derpyeahs>	and no there shouldn't be a problem.
nov. 20 20:56:01 <Derpyeahs>	as css works like a charm
nov. 20 20:56:22 <Derpyeahs>	so cs:go shouldn't have problems too as jake from youtube a linux gaming youtuber. can play it
nov. 20 20:56:49 <Dougie187>	he left.
nov. 20 20:56:51 <Derpyeahs>	add launch options. too
nov. 20 20:56:54 <Derpyeahs>	..........................................
nov. 20 20:57:06 <Derpyeahs>	u know ... i never useally watch the above chat sometimes
nov. 20 20:57:10 <Dougie187>	He left after he said "it says when i run PoL"
nov. 20 20:57:10 <Derpyeahs>	-derp momeant-
nov. 20 20:57:27 <Derpyeahs>	my text a bit bleh : P so i didn't see it said he lft
nov. 20 20:57:38 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 20 20:57:47 <Derpyeahs>	if i had dumb music i'd play it now
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nov. 20 21:00:42 <Derpyeahs>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8_LvKwRPsRA#t=129s
nov. 20 21:00:43 <Derpyeahs>	lol
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nov. 20 22:42:51 <Dougie187>	Any of the people who got banned in D3 in here?
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nov. 21 01:51:56 <ultimate-pol>	Rawr!
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nov. 21 02:28:02 <riley-pol>	7
nov. 21 02:28:44 <riley-pol>	 
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nov. 21 02:31:59 <jplto-pol>	hello]
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nov. 21 05:27:43 <dartosgamer-pol>	Is anyone having sound problems with RAGE?
nov. 21 05:31:04 <Dougie187>	What's RAGE?
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nov. 21 08:43:28 <lucas1-pom>	tes la
nov. 21 08:43:36 <lucas1-pom>	l
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nov. 21 11:07:14 <gaber-pol>	hi
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nov. 21 13:31:25 <thehousephanter->	hello
nov. 21 13:31:26 <thehousephanter->	PlayOnLinux is unable to find 32bits OpenGL libraries.
nov. 21 13:31:40 <thehousephanter->	any available soluction for this warning ?
nov. 21 13:31:46 <thehousephanter->	linux mint debian
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nov. 21 19:32:11 <Cultist>	evening all
nov. 21 19:32:38 ChanServ Cultist 
nov. 21 19:32:41 <pango>	good evening Cultist 
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nov. 21 19:46:38 <thehousephanter>	hello all
nov. 21 19:46:43 <thehousephanter>	Tks for all the support
nov. 21 19:47:01 <thehousephanter>	i manage to install steam on debian
nov. 21 19:47:01 <thehousephanter>	:D
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nov. 21 19:47:17 <thehousephanter>	now there is a little issue here the game doesnt run :D
nov. 21 19:47:22 <thehousephanter>	after updating
nov. 21 19:47:27 <thehousephanter>	and installing directx
nov. 21 19:47:46 <thehousephanter>	after first time setup
nov. 21 19:47:51 <thehousephanter>	do i need any speaicl advance command in csgo?
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nov. 21 19:52:14 <thehousephanter>	PlayOnLinux is unable to find 32bits OpenGL libraries how do i fix this to play CSGO ?!@
nov. 21 19:52:51 <Cultist>	that usually means that you don't have 32 bit libraries installed
nov. 21 19:53:07 <Cultist>	from your graphics card driver
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nov. 21 19:53:49 <thehousephanter>	i just need to install the libraries
nov. 21 19:53:49 <thehousephanter>	?
nov. 21 19:54:08 <thehousephanter>	how can i install them on debian?
nov. 21 19:55:04 <Cultist>	That I don't know, not a debian user
nov. 21 19:56:00 <thehousephanter>	i think the problem is the .playonlinux
nov. 21 19:56:03 <thehousephanter>	i should use
nov. 21 19:56:11 <thehousephanter>	a prefix in advanced lauch options
nov. 21 19:56:15 <thehousephanter>	os csgo
nov. 21 19:56:17 <thehousephanter>	of
nov. 21 19:57:27 <thehousephanter>	Cultist: you use ati ?
nov. 21 19:57:41 <Cultist>	nvidia
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nov. 21 20:17:21 <thehousephanter>	anyone else
nov. 21 20:17:31 <thehousephanter>	press return and help me
nov. 21 20:17:32 <thehousephanter>	:)
nov. 21 20:18:09 <pango>	using nvidia too
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nov. 21 20:22:48 <thehousephanter>	should i install directx
nov. 21 20:22:49 <thehousephanter>	?
nov. 21 20:22:54 <thehousephanter>	separetly
nov. 21 20:22:55 <thehousephanter>	from
nov. 21 20:22:56 <thehousephanter>	steam?
nov. 21 20:23:05 <pango>	fix your OpenGL problem first
nov. 21 20:23:18 <thehousephanter>	kk
nov. 21 20:24:17 <pango>	Wine implements DirectX API using OpenGL, if the latter is not working DirectX won't work either
nov. 21 20:25:20 <pango>	also, Wine now has an internal implementation of DirectX that has improved a lot; And if it's sufficient for a program, it usually gives better performance than using Windows DirectX DLLs
nov. 21 20:26:07 <pango>	So DirectX DLLs are not strictly a requirement, even for programs using DirectX; It depends, and need case-by-case testing
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nov. 21 23:27:16 <marvin-pol>	holaaaaaa
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nov. 21 23:39:37 <sandieg>	hey
nov. 21 23:39:41 <sandieg>	anyone around ?
nov. 21 23:39:52 <sandieg>	i am at steam menus
nov. 21 23:39:57 <sandieg>	i click csgo
nov. 21 23:40:00 <sandieg>	nothing happens
nov. 21 23:40:38 <sandieg>	whats might be the problem?
nov. 21 23:41:26 *	sandieg hey pocks everyone
nov. 21 23:42:25 <sandieg>	i think its because of libs 32 blabla
nov. 21 23:42:47 <sandieg>	when i open steam trough Playonlinux
nov. 21 23:42:49 <sandieg>	..
nov. 21 23:43:10 <ptinou>	install your drivers...
nov. 21 23:45:20 <sandieg>	they are installed -.-
nov. 21 23:45:31 <sandieg>	i talked with a friend
nov. 21 23:45:36 <sandieg>	he told me todo
nov. 21 23:45:37 <sandieg>	setarch i386 -3 playonlinux
nov. 21 23:45:47 <sandieg>	what does this do exactly ?
nov. 21 23:47:14 <ptinou>	if pol tells you that it is not installed, then it is not installed
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nov. 21 23:50:06 <sandieg>	ptinou: true
nov. 21 23:50:28 <sandieg>	but i dont know how to install ati lib32 fglrx in debian
nov. 21 23:50:36 <ptinou>	sorry, we do not support that
nov. 21 23:50:42 <sandieg>	ia32lib
nov. 21 23:50:47 <sandieg>	something like that
nov. 21 23:51:04 <sandieg>	ok tks
nov. 21 23:51:07 <sandieg>	cya
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nov. 21 23:58:40 <jorge-pol>	hola
nov. 21 23:58:50 <jorge-pol>	ayuda
nov. 21 23:58:58 <jorge-pol>	help me please
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nov. 22 11:08:46 <linux2>	I'm getting this error every time I start playonlinux "PlayOnLinux is unable to find 32bits OpenGL libraries", but the 32 bit libraries are installed (package "libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386"). Any ideas on how to fix this
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nov. 22 13:42:02 <tony-tong>	part
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nov. 22 15:18:01 <gentleman-pol>	hello my dougher
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nov. 22 16:06:01 <PlayOnLinux>	Hi root-pol, it's strongly recommended not to run PlayOnLinux as root or with sudo
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nov. 22 16:29:30 <wraith-pol>	hello ;p
nov. 22 16:29:49 <ptinou>	hello
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nov. 22 16:40:07 <wraith-pol>	anyone playing LoL? i need some help ;p
nov. 22 16:48:19 <ptinou>	forget about playing LoL on linux for the moment
nov. 22 16:48:30 <ptinou>	if it works today, it will not in something like one week
nov. 22 16:49:53 <wraith-pol>	there is point to install virtual machine with windows for LoL?
nov. 22 16:50:01 <wraith-pol>	is there*
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nov. 22 17:00:33 <Dougie187>	Happy Thanksgiving!
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nov. 22 17:26:59 <adherent-pol>	bonjour
nov. 22 17:27:21 <adherent-pol>	est-ce que quelqu'un parle français et peut m'aider?
nov. 22 17:28:28 <Marmotte>	parle français, oui, peut t'aider, difficile de répondre sans question :D
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nov. 22 17:30:45 <Dougie187>	Marmotte: you had any luck with the re-reviews?
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nov. 22 17:45:17 <Marmotte>	Dougie187: not for now, I plan to make a mini-website and send paper mails
nov. 22 17:49:14 <Dougie187>	That's not a bad Idea.
nov. 22 17:49:22 <Dougie187>	I wrote up an open letter I can let you read at some point if you want
nov. 22 17:52:09 <Dougie187>	I'm out for now though
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nov. 22 18:41:47 <ptinou>	plop
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nov. 22 19:14:44 ---	You are now known as pango
nov. 22 19:15:05 <pango>	Good evening everybody
nov. 22 19:15:15 <ptinou>	yop
nov. 22 19:15:34 <pango>	Bonsoir Quentin
nov. 22 19:15:39 <ptinou>	bonsoir
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nov. 22 20:17:52 ---	Topic for #playonlinux is PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac Official IRC | http://www.playonlinux.com/ http://www.playonmac.com/ | Latest version: 4.1.8 | Please speak English or French; We may not answer immediately. | We do not support piracy.
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nov. 22 20:22:14 <angel-pol>	que onda
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nov. 22 22:29:56 <snipe-pol>	hello all
nov. 22 22:30:07 <snipe-pol>	my system is complayning i dont have 3d accel
nov. 22 22:30:10 <snipe-pol>	but i do
nov. 22 22:30:50 <snipe-pol>	Wine/PlayOnLinux 32bit OpenGL libraries
nov. 22 22:31:00 <snipe-pol>	what might be the problem
nov. 22 22:31:00 <snipe-pol>	?
nov. 22 22:35:43 <Dougie187>	What graphics card do you have?
nov. 22 22:37:11 <snipe-pol>	hd4670 ati
nov. 22 22:37:18 <Dougie187>	What driver do you have installed?
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nov. 22 22:39:56 <Dougie187>	Rafbill: hows it going?
nov. 22 22:40:30 <Rafbill>	nothing new about my D3 account ...
nov. 22 22:41:23 <Rafbill>	but i am fine otherwise
nov. 22 22:42:05 <snipe-pol>	ati legacy
nov. 22 22:42:12 <snipe-pol>	12.4
nov. 22 22:42:22 <Dougie187>	Rafbill: that sucks. Did you see my post on the forums?
nov. 22 22:42:25 <Dougie187>	snipe-pol: what's legacy mean?
nov. 22 22:42:46 <Dougie187>	Rafbill: did you try to get it re-reviewed?
nov. 22 22:42:53 <snipe-pol>	legal ones i supose
nov. 22 22:42:58 <snipe-pol>	:D
nov. 22 22:43:05 <Rafbill>	Rafbill: that sucks. Did you see my post on the forums? -> I don't think so
nov. 22 22:43:21 <snipe-pol>	the normal ones
nov. 22 22:43:23 <snipe-pol>	from ati
nov. 22 22:43:33 <Dougie187>	Rafbill: http://www.playonlinux.com/en/commentaires-1068.html
nov. 22 22:43:49 <Dougie187>	snipe-pol: hmm, I don't know much about ATI aside from I've had bad luck with them on linux. :P
nov. 22 22:44:40 <snipe-pol>	dont you have a soluction
nov. 22 22:44:47 <snipe-pol>	:)))
nov. 22 22:44:57 <snipe-pol>	is it bad playonlinux giving me the error
nov. 22 22:44:58 <snipe-pol>	?
nov. 22 22:45:12 <Dougie187>	It's probably wine giving you the error as opposed to pol
nov. 22 22:45:33 <Rafbill>	Dougie187: I read it then. but I am still not sure which one it is.
nov. 22 22:45:44 <Dougie187>	The second to last post from me. BrownTsunami
nov. 22 22:46:05 <Rafbill>	I don't have any folder in ~/PlayOnLinux's virtual drives/DiabloIII/drive_c/Program Files/Diablo III/InspectorReporter/ReportedBugs
nov. 22 22:46:27 <Dougie187>	Oh ok
nov. 22 22:46:32 <Dougie187>	That's what I figured.
nov. 22 22:46:41 <Dougie187>	Did you try to get your stuff re-reviewed?
nov. 22 22:46:47 <Rafbill>	i tried
nov. 22 22:47:03 <snipe-pol>	Dougie187 you know what error im talking about ?
nov. 22 22:47:21 <Dougie187>	snipe-pol: not really. :P
nov. 22 22:47:25 <Dougie187>	Rafbill: what'd they say?
nov. 22 22:48:01 <snipe-pol>	My problem is when I start PlayOnLinux it says it can't find 32bits OpenGL libraries.
nov. 22 22:48:41 <Rafbill>	they said they reviewed it again and that it confirmed my account was closed because of a hack program...
nov. 22 22:48:53 <snipe-pol>	omg raf
nov. 22 22:49:08 <Dougie187>	snipe-pol: Then try to reinstall the graphics driver.
nov. 22 22:49:08 <snipe-pol>	what has the aiming of the hack
nov. 22 22:49:09 <snipe-pol>	?
nov. 22 22:49:24 <Dougie187>	Rafbill: yeah, that's what I'm getting. It seems they are not re-reviewing accounts at all.
nov. 22 22:49:41 <Dougie187>	snipe-pol: are you using fglrx?
nov. 22 22:49:49 <snipe-pol>	i am
nov. 22 22:49:51 <Dougie187>	If so I think you need to install fglrx32
nov. 22 22:49:53 <Dougie187>	or something like that
nov. 22 22:49:57 <Dougie187>	what OS are you on?
nov. 22 22:50:03 <snipe-pol>	debian
nov. 22 22:50:25 <snipe-pol>	mint /debian
nov. 22 22:50:31 <Dougie187>	mint != debian
nov. 22 22:50:35 <snipe-pol>	equal to ubuntu /pr pid
nov. 22 22:50:47 <Dougie187>	yeah, but what are you using, so I know which packages to look for
nov. 22 22:51:00 <snipe-pol>	make its all equal to debian
nov. 22 22:51:14 <snipe-pol>	same thing as i was running debian
nov. 22 22:51:17 <snipe-pol>	let me show u
nov. 22 22:51:33 <Dougie187>	No, you have different repositories installed depending on each distro
nov. 22 22:51:43 <Dougie187>	ie. debian has it's own repos, ubuntu has it's own repos, etc.
nov. 22 22:51:49 <snipe-pol>	mint LDME
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nov. 22 22:52:14 <snipe-pol>	soz
nov. 22 22:52:18 <snipe-pol>	LMDE
nov. 22 22:52:18 <Dougie187>	http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=198&t=113196
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nov. 22 22:59:59 <snipe-pol>	ok
nov. 22 23:00:04 <snipe-pol>	as i read it i get frustrated
nov. 22 23:00:12 <snipe-pol>	advice me please
nov. 22 23:00:19 <snipe-pol>	a good distro for playonlinux
nov. 22 23:00:50 <Dougie187>	I've been using ubuntu. And it works fine for me
nov. 22 23:00:52 <snipe-pol>	Dougie187
nov. 22 23:02:52 <snipe-pol>	wich one ?
nov. 22 23:03:16 <Dougie187>	I'm on 12.10. but it worked on 12.04 too
nov. 22 23:03:41 <snipe-pol>	i will install 12.10
nov. 22 23:03:51 <snipe-pol>	is more recent right ?
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nov. 22 23:04:09 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 22 23:04:19 <snipe-pol>	32 bits or 64 bits? for my iMac?
nov. 22 23:04:35 <Dougie187>	You're installing it on your iMac?
nov. 22 23:04:41 <Dougie187>	I'm using 64bit. But again I don't know.
nov. 22 23:04:52 <Dougie187>	Part of the big problem is the ati drivers don't change much
nov. 22 23:05:08 <Dougie187>	so, I have no idea if installing a new OS is going to fix the problem.
nov. 22 23:05:13 <Dougie187>	If you want a drastic change, you could try fedora
nov. 22 23:05:18 <Dougie187>	at least it's not based on debian
nov. 22 23:06:14 <Marmotte>	I'm on 12.04 :)
nov. 22 23:06:22 <Dougie187>	Do you have an ati card?
nov. 22 23:06:23 <Marmotte>	(because LTS)
nov. 22 23:07:09 <snipe-pol>	i do have a ati
nov. 22 23:07:13 <snipe-pol>	its up and running
nov. 22 23:07:20 <snipe-pol>	3D
nov. 22 23:07:22 <Dougie187>	I know. I'm asking Marmotte. :P
nov. 22 23:07:23 <snipe-pol>	etc..
nov. 22 23:07:26 <snipe-pol>	but playonlinux says its not
nov. 22 23:07:33 <Dougie187>	yeah. It's missing the 32bit libraries.
nov. 22 23:07:50 <snipe-pol>	downloading fedora 17
nov. 22 23:08:17 <Marmotte>	Dougie187: yes, ATI card on both desktop and laptop)
nov. 22 23:08:37 <snipe-pol>	whtr might be the problem
nov. 22 23:08:40 <snipe-pol>	?
nov. 22 23:08:42 <Marmotte>	Desktop : i5 3570K / Radeon HD7850
nov. 22 23:08:44 <snipe-pol>	are you running
nov. 22 23:08:49 <snipe-pol>	playonlinux well>?
nov. 22 23:09:15 <Dougie187>	I mean, it should be easy to fix. I just don't know how to do it
nov. 22 23:09:31 <snipe-pol>	true
nov. 22 23:10:08 <Dougie187>	Part of the problem is I don't have an ati card. :P
nov. 22 23:10:09 <Marmotte>	(but I'm not on an iMac)
nov. 22 23:10:12 <Dougie187>	and I don't use fglrx.
nov. 22 23:10:51 <Marmotte>	I had no problem for installing and using ATI drivers
nov. 22 23:11:21 <Marmotte>	launched the .run file downloaded on the ATI website with the --buildpkg argument, then installed the generated .deb files with dpkg
nov. 22 23:11:33 <Marmotte>	and all runs fine :)
nov. 22 23:11:40 <snipe-pol>	i did it
nov. 22 23:11:57 <snipe-pol>	but first i installed
nov. 22 23:12:00 <snipe-pol>	the driver
nov. 22 23:12:00 <snipe-pol>	them wine
nov. 22 23:12:04 <snipe-pol>	them
nov. 22 23:12:04 <snipe-pol>	playonlinyux
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nov. 22 23:13:16 <snipe-pol>	i should first install wine
nov. 22 23:13:24 <snipe-pol>	the playonlinux
nov. 22 23:13:28 <snipe-pol>	them driver
nov. 22 23:14:15 <snipe-pol>	well im going now
nov. 22 23:14:24 <snipe-pol>	cya
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nov. 22 23:55:25 <Fleck>	vijay-pol: ask in channel, don't PM random users
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nov. 22 23:56:56 <Nirtal>	don't understand why he connects here to ask people "asl?"
nov. 22 23:57:31 <Fleck>	asl?
nov. 22 23:59:34 <Nirtal>	stands for "age sex location?"
nov. 23 00:02:36 <Dougie187>	It's an old-school way to try to get a girl to talk to you. :P
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nov. 23 01:10:05 <Kazurik>	The Magicka script for playonlinux doesn't seem to work. What is the standard steps to report that correctly?
nov. 23 01:11:03 <Nirtal>	It worked for me last time i tried it
nov. 23 01:11:16 <Nirtal>	Kazurik did you get any error messege?
nov. 23 01:11:26 <Kazurik>	It installs fine but it doesn't run for me. I'm locating the log now.
nov. 23 01:11:41 <Nirtal>	Do you run it with steam?
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nov. 23 01:13:17 <Kazurik>	Nirtal: Yep.
nov. 23 01:13:53 <Nirtal>	does steam start?
nov. 23 01:14:37 <Kazurik>	It does. It's magicka that is closing and I have the standard windows send error report window. Steam continues to work after the game crashes or at least it presents me with the "updates" (ads) window.
nov. 23 01:14:52 <Kazurik>	This is my log: http://pastebin.com/QB78GMs9
nov. 23 01:15:20 <Kazurik>	Looks like I need to check if my OpenGL setup is correct! How do I do that?
nov. 23 01:15:39 <Nirtal>	Kazurik can you run other opengl programs?
nov. 23 01:16:09 <Nirtal>	Wich distro do you use?
nov. 23 01:16:25 <Kazurik>	SC 2 and D3 start. Or at least their patchers do. SC 2 ran but there was a lot of wierd purpleness going on.
nov. 23 01:16:28 <Kazurik>	Arch.
nov. 23 01:16:58 <Nirtal>	ok, wich video card do you use?
nov. 23 01:17:06 <Kazurik>	AMD 7870
nov. 23 01:18:09 <Kazurik>	I am using the proprietary drivers.
nov. 23 01:18:36 <Nirtal>	do you got lib32-mesa and lib32-libgl installed?
nov. 23 01:19:15 <Kazurik>	Sure would be emabarssing if I didn't. Let's find out.
nov. 23 01:19:32 <Kazurik>	Looks like I have lib32-mesa and lib32-libgl being provided by catalyst (prop drivers)
nov. 23 01:19:57 <Nirtal>	your running 32 or 64 bit?
nov. 23 01:20:02 <Kazurik>	64.
nov. 23 01:20:05 <Nirtal>	ok
nov. 23 01:20:41 <Nirtal>	you don't get some warning about PlayonLinux not finding 32-bits opengl drivers when you start playonlinux?
nov. 23 01:21:39 <Kazurik>	No window appears. I'll run it from a terminal real quick.
nov. 23 01:21:55 <Kazurik>	/usr/share/playonlinux/bash/startup_after_server: line 38: [: : integer expression expected
nov. 23 01:21:59 <Kazurik>	That is the only error I see.
nov. 23 01:22:13 <Kazurik>	[Check_OpenGL] Message: 32bits direct rendering is enabled
nov. 23 01:22:13 <Kazurik>	[Check_OpenGL] Message: 64bits direct rendering is enabled
nov. 23 01:25:31 <Nirtal>	if you go into configure and choose your Magicka drive then go to the tab "Miscellaneous" and then press "Run a .exe file in this virtual drive" where you open this file http://www2.cs.uidaho.edu/~jeffery/win32/wglgears.exe
nov. 23 01:25:42 <Nirtal>	it's glxgears for windows ^^
nov. 23 01:25:54 <Nirtal>	does that work?
nov. 23 01:28:24 <Kazurik>	I believe so. I have some gears spinning crazy fast.
nov. 23 01:28:53 <Nirtal>	ok
nov. 23 01:29:03 <Nirtal>	so opengl works atleast in that drive
nov. 23 01:30:30 <Nirtal>	meybe there is some library in the install script that didn't install properly
nov. 23 01:33:30 <Kazurik>	I can go reinstall and watch for errors.
nov. 23 01:35:38 <Nirtal>	Kazurik I have an idea
nov. 23 01:35:49 <Nirtal>	if you havn't already uninstalled everything yet
nov. 23 01:36:13 <Kazurik>	I have but it is a quick install. Shoulnd't be more than 10 more minutes.
nov. 23 01:40:34 <Kazurik>	About 3 minutes left.
nov. 23 01:46:31 <Kazurik>	Ok install completed. Giant log can be downloaded here: http://waffles.likes-pie.com/public/playonlinux.log
nov. 23 01:48:09 <Kazurik>	Nirtal: What did you want me to try?
nov. 23 01:48:30 <Nirtal>	still the same error?
nov. 23 01:49:41 <Kazurik>	Yep.
nov. 23 01:50:41 <pango>	err:wincodecs:PngEncoder_CreateInstance Failed writing PNG because unable to find libpng12.so.0
nov. 23 01:51:11 <Kazurik>	Installing
nov. 23 01:51:29 <Kazurik>	both 32 and 64 bit version
nov. 23 01:51:44 <Kazurik>	Rerunning Magicka.
nov. 23 01:52:14 <Nirtal>	Kazurik you got libpng12 packet or just libpng?
nov. 23 01:52:30 <Kazurik>	libpng12 and lib32-libping12
nov. 23 01:52:35 <Nirtal>	ok
nov. 23 01:52:39 <Kazurik>	Still crashes.
nov. 23 01:53:06 <Nirtal>	ok
nov. 23 01:53:44 <Nirtal>	GLSL support, is it enabled or disabled?
nov. 23 01:54:17 <Kazurik>	I do not know what that is. How do I check?
nov. 23 01:54:44 <Nirtal>	in configure on your magicka drive, go to the "Display" tab
nov. 23 01:55:13 <pango>	err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"msxml3.dll": libxml2.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
nov. 23 01:55:15 <Kazurik>	disabled.
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nov. 23 01:56:41 <Kazurik>	I have that installed now. Do you want me to enable GLSL?
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nov. 23 01:57:24 <Nirtal>	no, GLSL should be disabled
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nov. 23 01:59:03 <pango>	the script uses dotnet35, which is problematic http://www.playonlinux.com/en/issue-1439.html
nov. 23 02:00:26 <pango>	(but seems to work with the version of Wine used (1.4), so it may work)
nov. 23 02:00:30 <Nirtal>	Kazurik try to install lib32-libxml2 and install dotnet35 on the virtual drive
nov. 23 02:01:37 <Kazurik>	I installed both 32 and 64 libxml2 earlier when you pointed that one out. How do I install the dotnet35 on the virtual drive?
nov. 23 02:01:52 <Kazurik>	Never mind. Figured it out.
nov. 23 02:02:44 <Kazurik>	After I start the game for the first time it creates a new entry in my intalled games list of Steam (MAgicka). I am currently ingnoring that and using the originial Magicka entry. Is this correct?
nov. 23 02:03:56 <Kazurik>	Nirtal: dotnet35 installed. Still crashes.
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nov. 23 02:07:42 <Kazurik>	Should I try reinstalling now that I have all these libs that I was missing?
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nov. 23 02:27:04 <Nirtal>	Kazurik it couln't hurt :P
nov. 23 02:27:12 <Nirtal>	I have to go to bed now, gl
nov. 23 02:28:35 <Kazurik>	Nirtal: Thanks for all the help. I'll keep at it!
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nov. 23 03:51:40 <slavojzizek-pol>	I am trying to play GTA San Andreas and it is having a weird bug, was wondering if someone could help
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nov. 23 04:22:08 <michael-pol>	hello?
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nov. 23 05:04:03 <entityX1>	word
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nov. 23 08:41:31 <vairen-pol>	Hi guys
nov. 23 08:42:15 <vairen-pol>	I have 1 question.. I have portable pc with 2 graphical cards.. 1 - Intel HD 4k, 2 - 7670M
nov. 23 08:42:24 <vairen-pol>	I can't get work with second
nov. 23 08:42:30 <vairen-pol>	Kernel - 3.6.5
nov. 23 08:42:37 <vairen-pol>	Ubuntu 12.10
nov. 23 08:42:39 <vairen-pol>	=(
nov. 23 08:43:15 <vairen-pol>	There is nobody :(
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nov. 23 10:08:17 <den4ik-pol>	русские есть ?
nov. 23 10:08:17 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel den4ik-pol
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nov. 23 10:51:58 <monobook-pol>	hi everyone
nov. 23 10:52:44 <monobook-pol>	does anybody play on Cossacks via PoL?
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nov. 23 11:17:34 <bebert-pol>	Hello / bonjour
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nov. 23 13:53:58 <lukasz-pol>	hi, can you tell me how to update PoL to 4.1.8 on ubuntu? I went to download page but the terminal code doesnt work
nov. 23 13:54:01 <lukasz-pol>	thx for help
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nov. 23 14:27:28 <lukasz-pol>	hi, can you tell me how to update PoL to 4.1.8 on ubuntu? I went to download page but the terminal code doesnt work ,
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nov. 23 14:58:59 <vishal-pol>	hi
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nov. 23 16:02:21 <Cultist>	How do you change the language in POL? I'm not seeing a dialog for it
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nov. 23 17:09:19 <Dougie187>	How's it going everyone?
nov. 23 17:11:10 ---	You are now known as pango
nov. 23 17:11:26 <pango>	Good evening everyone
nov. 23 17:11:29 <pango>	Cultist: Linux?
nov. 23 17:12:07 <pango>	Cultist: if so it uses language from your environment variables
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nov. 23 17:13:48 <Dougie187>	How's it going pango?
nov. 23 17:14:09 <pango>	Dougie187: I'm ok, the weekend finally :p
nov. 23 17:14:14 <Dougie187>	:P
nov. 23 17:14:20 <Dougie187>	It's thanksgiving weekend for us.
nov. 23 17:14:25 <Dougie187>	Today is Black Friday!
nov. 23 17:14:25 <Dougie187>	:D
nov. 23 17:14:59 <pango>	Dougie187: Read that here and there, but we don't have thanksgiving here
nov. 23 17:15:08 <Dougie187>	Yeah
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nov. 23 17:15:23 <Dougie187>	It's only like us, Canada, and then two other countries that have it
nov. 23 17:16:20 <pango>	Different topic, spotted more GOG installers that have gone v2 this week...
nov. 23 17:16:27 <pango>	Some more updating :p
nov. 23 17:16:32 <Dougie187>	that sucks. :(
nov. 23 17:16:33 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 23 17:16:56 <pango>	Well, I sort of have a recipe now, all what's left is testing
nov. 23 17:17:17 <Dougie187>	don't the GoG games cost money though?
nov. 23 17:17:40 <pango>	most of them do, yes, why do you ask?
nov. 23 17:18:26 <Dougie187>	doesn't that mean you have to pay money to test it out?
nov. 23 17:18:49 <pango>	I own all the games I write scripts for
nov. 23 17:18:59 <Dougie187>	oh ok
nov. 23 17:19:17 <pango>	either from my own money, and for some, gifted by Quentin
nov. 23 17:19:51 <pango>	my policy is "1€ a day", and I started in May 2011... :p
nov. 23 17:20:46 <Dougie187>	:P
nov. 23 17:20:49 <pango>	I currently a bit over this policy though, so I'm trying to think twice before buying new games :D
nov. 23 17:21:30 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 23 17:23:02 <pango>	I'll probably do unreasonable things for xmas sales anyway :p
nov. 23 17:23:25 <Dougie187>	heh
nov. 23 17:23:32 <Dougie187>	just buy everything.
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nov. 23 17:24:06 <pango>	definitely over budget, they have more than 450 games now
nov. 23 17:24:13 <Dougie187>	damn, that's a lot.
nov. 23 17:24:19 <bkbilly-pol>	can i ask something?
nov. 23 17:24:25 <pango>	Hi bkbilly-pol 
nov. 23 17:24:25 <bkbilly-pol>	How do I install LoL?
nov. 23 17:24:26 <Dougie187>	sure
nov. 23 17:24:38 <bkbilly-pol>	hi!
nov. 23 17:24:50 <pango>	bkbilly-pol: Install button > check "Testing" checkbox > Look for League of Legends in games
nov. 23 17:24:50 <Cultist>	pango, cool thanks
nov. 23 17:24:53 <Dougie187>	you mark the testing box in the install menu
nov. 23 17:24:56 <bkbilly-pol>	thanks!
nov. 23 17:25:07 <pango>	bkbilly-pol: hurry up, it'll probably break soon :/
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nov. 23 17:25:39 <pango>	bkbilly-pol: we heard that they'll soon use some library that's not working under Wine
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nov. 23 17:26:20 <bkbilly-pol>	wow! that's briliant!
nov. 23 17:26:32 <bkbilly-pol>	i can't wait...
nov. 23 17:26:57 <pango>	Yup :/
nov. 23 17:27:10 <Cultist>	I've been working on my French and I'm trying to localize everything in French when possible
nov. 23 17:27:11 <Cultist>	figured a good way to improve
nov. 23 17:27:35 <pango>	Cultist: ;)
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nov. 23 18:09:29 <Fenixp>	Hey, playonlinux people persons. So, hypothetically speaking, what would happen if a person came around and asked about a crashing application installed via playonlinux?
nov. 23 18:09:59 <pango>	using a script or manual install?
nov. 23 18:10:54 <Fenixp>	Oh yay, people would help, not murder! All right, Witcher 2, GOG version, automatic install. The debug log has spewed errors about ... Oh crap now I have to install it again to get the debug log
nov. 23 18:11:25 <Fenixp>	A few libraries were screwy for whatever reason I can't understand because I'm a massive noob, one for VC I believe
nov. 23 18:11:30 <pango>	if I remember correctly, GOG Witcher 2 has no official script
nov. 23 18:12:26 <Fenixp>	Basically, what I did was install a copy via Steam script and then ran the script for EE update. Figured if you get the environment working, game'll work too
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nov. 23 18:13:03 <Fenixp>	Anyway, is there some sort of unofficial script database somewhere? I might try digging trough that.
nov. 23 18:13:13 <pango>	I don't use Steam and don't know its quirks
nov. 23 18:13:32 <pango>	there's an official scripts database, unofficial are unofficial I suppose :p
nov. 23 18:14:04 <pango>	Are you running POL 4.1.8 by the way?
nov. 23 18:14:17 <pango>	Running latest version should be a start before any bug reporting
nov. 23 18:14:41 <Fenixp>	Yeah, I am
nov. 23 18:14:45 <pango>	ok
nov. 23 18:15:10 <Fenixp>	So no commonly used unfficial script database around? Don't worry, I won't tell anyone. Except people that ask.
nov. 23 18:15:25 <pango>	Not that I'm aware of
nov. 23 18:15:37 <Fenixp>	Damn. Oh well, dual-booting it is for the time being then
nov. 23 18:15:38 <Fenixp>	Thanks
nov. 23 18:15:44 <pango>	only official repository contains signed scripts
nov. 23 18:15:58 <pango>	scripts from other places trigger a warning
nov. 23 18:16:22 <pango>	there's no incitive to have unofficial repositories really
nov. 23 18:17:09 <pango>	someday, maybe
nov. 23 18:18:29 <Fenixp>	Well... I hope someone makes an official install script for GOG's TW2 eventually then. I would try, but I can't even begin to understand how the darn thing works.
nov. 23 18:18:44 <pango>	I didn't because it doesn't work on my box
nov. 23 18:19:18 <pango>	my not submitted script is here: https://github.com/petchema/playonlinux/blob/master/broken/thewitcher2-gog
nov. 23 18:19:34 <pango>	also received this one: https://github.com/petchema/playonlinux/blob/master/contrib/thewitcher2-gog
nov. 23 18:20:30 <pango>	I could push it to the official repository, but then I would not be able to test it (which is already the case for few, less popular, games)
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nov. 23 18:20:53 <Fenixp>	Oh cool, does that mean I might not have to use Windows to play my favourite game? Off to try them. Is there any way to provide a feedback for those?
nov. 23 18:22:04 <pango>	You could report your finding here, I'm almost always connected here, if not always near the keyboard
nov. 23 18:22:38 <pango>	I'm not sure what would be the right place in the forum, given that I did not submit or publish those scripts yet
nov. 23 18:23:03 <Fenixp>	Oh, all right then, I'll do that. I'd really love to help the project in one way or another, shame I suck at scripting
nov. 23 18:23:51 <pango>	if you manage to install stuff by hand, automating it is not a much larger effort, specially if you already have a script template
nov. 23 18:24:19 <Fenixp>	Do you have some tutorials lying somewhere?
nov. 23 18:24:41 <pango>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/documentation.html, "Scriptwriter's documentation"
nov. 23 18:24:54 <Fenixp>	Ok, that was a stupid question
nov. 23 18:25:08 <pango>	For GOG games, I wrote that template: https://github.com/petchema/playonlinux/blob/master/_template-gog
nov. 23 18:27:36 <pango>	Existing scripts can also be used as examples, there's currently two kind of scripts I'd say, as I'm updating them as GOG switches to their installer v2
nov. 23 18:27:36 <Fenixp>	all right, thanks. I'm gonna bookmark that right away.
nov. 23 18:28:11 <pango>	("POL_Call POL_GoG_install" <=> updated for installer v2)
nov. 23 18:28:44 <pango>	like line 34 in the template: it's v2 ready
nov. 23 18:31:22 <Fenixp>	I know you probably get this a lot by the way, but you're doing a stellar job. I've always found I work much more efficiently on Linux Mint than on Windows, but gaming always held me back from actually switching. But now, most of what I play just kind of ... Works. Made the final transition much easier.
nov. 23 18:31:48 <Dougie187>	^^
nov. 23 18:32:05 <pango>	One never gets enough of that ;) Thanks you
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nov. 23 18:35:22 <pango>	(Ok, 20 new scripts to update to v2 :p)
nov. 23 18:35:59 <Fenixp>	I can see how that would get fairly annoying. I wish GOG at the very least kept some sort of changelog.
nov. 23 18:36:04 <Dougie187>	nice, that's pretty fast pango
nov. 23 18:36:32 <pango>	well, I haven't started yet, just got thru the whole list again
nov. 23 18:36:56 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 23 18:36:58 <pango>	removed the ones already done, sorted them by decreasing order of downloads last months to know which ones to work on first...
nov. 23 18:37:50 <pango>	that's 20 new scripted games and 6 new non-scripted games
nov. 23 18:38:08 <Dougie187>	Oh ok
nov. 23 18:38:48 <pango>	Nothing to do for those that didn't already have a script, this part is ok ;)
nov. 23 18:40:38 <pango>	Then I'm left with Theme Hospital, The Witcher, Master of Orion 1+2, Broken Swords (the 4 of them), Alone in the Dark (1 to 3), Chronicles of Riddick, Total Annihilation: Kingdoms, Populous 2, Master of Magic, Blood, Lands of Lore 1+2, Ultima Underworld 1+2, Pirates!, Crusader No Remorse, and RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 that I was currently working on
nov. 23 18:42:28 <Fenixp>	By the way, how are the dosbox games handled? I've never tried installing one of thos
nov. 23 18:42:38 <Fenixp>	Do they just use native Linux dosbox with GOG's conf?
nov. 23 18:44:26 <pango>	They're "pseudo" Wine versions like 1.4-dos_support_0.6 or 1.4-scummvm that contain the native emulators
nov. 23 18:44:45 <pango>	(and also Wine 1.4)
nov. 23 18:45:27 <pango>	So they can be used in script to handle the GOG installer, then create shortcuts that use the native emulators to run the games (using script-provided configuration, not GOG's)
nov. 23 18:46:26 <Fenixp>	Oh ok, thanks for answering that. I was kind of reluctant to install, thinking that it'll run dosbox via wine. Reluctant for no reason apparently.
nov. 23 18:46:38 <pango>	Example: https://github.com/petchema/playonlinux/blob/master/aloneinthedark1-gog
nov. 23 18:48:09 <Fenixp>	I think I'm slowly starting to understand how the scripts work. Yay. You know now I'm basically doing work so I don't have to do actual work, that's kind of sad.
nov. 23 18:48:11 <pango>	But there's not much to see, the 1.4-dos_support_0.5 just contains a wrapper that determines if what's to be run is a Windows or a MS-DOS program, and usually take the decision to run Wine or DOSBox transparently
nov. 23 18:48:33 <pango>	(that's the rough idea)
nov. 23 18:49:44 <Fenixp>	Anyway, installing the Witcher 2, I'm really curious whether it's going to work. I'm not really holding hopes to run it at ultra settings, but I can always try. If it even launches, of course.
nov. 23 18:50:36 <pango>	It was reported to work by the guy that sent the contributed script, it's probably just my hardware not being up to the task
nov. 23 18:51:05 <Fenixp>	TW2 was the game for which I bought a new graphics card and CPU.
nov. 23 18:51:16 <pango>	It's a laptop with a nVidia card, but a laptop nonetheless
nov. 23 18:51:45 <Fenixp>	I tried to run in on a laptop with nVidia card. Then I bought those two.
nov. 23 18:52:32 <Fenixp>	I'm a massive Witcher fan ever since I've red the books, so The Witcher 2 will run on my Linux installation, whether it likes it or not
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nov. 23 19:47:20 <Fenixp>	So pango , are you still around?
nov. 23 19:47:24 <pango>	yup
nov. 23 19:47:38 <Fenixp>	Using this script that you sent me: https://github.com/petchema/playonlinux/blob/master/contrib/thewitcher2-gog
nov. 23 19:48:20 <Fenixp>	The Witcher 2 runs great on ultra settings. I've just had to disable ubersampling, which my card just can't handle with proper framerates, and depth of field effects, which rendered any cinematic and conversation black
nov. 23 19:48:35 <Fenixp>	But none of that is a gamebreaking problem, obviously
nov. 23 19:49:03 <pango>	does everything work correctly with default settings?
nov. 23 19:49:35 <Fenixp>	Default settings are on 'low' configuration, so yes
nov. 23 19:50:04 <Fenixp>	I'll just try actually launching the game on low to see if it's true, but I don't see why wouldn't it be
nov. 23 19:50:43 <Fenixp>	and I've finished the entire tutorial, which covers all the aspects of the game, and got a bit into prologue to see if cinematics work properly
nov. 23 19:51:27 <pango>	Ok
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nov. 23 19:51:50 <pango>	I don't remember what differences there are between this contributed script and mine, not much as I recall
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nov. 23 19:53:36 <Fenixp>	Yeah, it works great on the default conf.
nov. 23 19:53:42 <pango>	good
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nov. 23 19:54:47 <Fenixp>	I'm just very impressed that it runs so smoothly on ultra settings, set aside depth of field (which was coded in-house by CDPR, so I suppose that's the problem)
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nov. 23 19:56:11 <pango>	yup, the script doesn't even tweak things, just install vcrun2010
nov. 23 19:56:29 <pango>	ah mmh and native DirectX
nov. 23 19:57:02 <Fenixp>	I really can't be of any help in that department. What I do know is that the script for retail TW2 didn't work, this one does.
nov. 23 19:57:18 <Fenixp>	Anyway, thanks for providing me with those links, now I can actually enjoy the game without rebooting every time I try to play the damn thing.
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nov. 23 19:58:23 <pango>	I assume you used an already-downloaded GOG installer?
nov. 23 19:58:56 <pango>	(I don't think the download code in the contributed script actually works)
nov. 23 19:59:23 <Fenixp>	Yeah, I keep a back-up of my GOG games
nov. 23 19:59:51 <Fenixp>	especially those which are 15.6 GB
nov. 23 19:59:57 <pango>	ok, so at least this part needs testing (but that part I can test)
nov. 23 20:01:04 <pango>	maybe I'll end up with a "contributed" script for GOG's TW2, but not just now
nov. 23 20:02:02 <Fenixp>	Well, if you need any more info on the game's performance, I'll try to hang around.
nov. 23 20:03:39 <pango>	I'm not installing the game the exact same way in my script, but I don't know what's the best way to go, just switch to contributed script's method or somewhere inbetween (but then I'll need extra tests)
nov. 23 20:05:12 <Fenixp>	Well if you need that tested, above still applies
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nov. 23 20:05:39 <epilef-pol>	hola alguien sabe si con esto puedo jugar lol?
nov. 23 20:05:39 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel epilef-pol
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nov. 23 21:27:54 <Kazurik>	Does anyone know of a script for PlayOnLinux for EVE Online?
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nov. 23 21:35:15 <Kazurik>	Are the items in the Install packages tab just winetricks entries? If so why are some missing and/or can I update the winetricks PlayOnLinux is using to have it install dotnet35sp1 and d3dx9_43?
nov. 23 21:35:29 <ptinou>	nope
nov. 23 21:35:33 <ptinou>	winetricks is not used
nov. 23 21:35:52 <pango>	Bonsoir Quentin
nov. 23 21:36:03 <ptinou>	bonsoir pierre
nov. 23 21:36:10 <pango>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/issue-1577.html :(
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nov. 23 21:37:18 <ptinou>	?
nov. 23 21:37:25 <ptinou>	oh nan
nov. 23 21:37:31 <ptinou>	faut que je me retape tout le bordel de retro blabla
nov. 23 21:37:35 <ptinou>	bon ben assigne moi le bug
nov. 23 21:37:36 <pango>	yep :/
nov. 23 21:40:05 <pango>	bon, de mon côté j'ai 20 nouveaux scripts à mettre à jour...
nov. 23 21:40:27 <ptinou>	ah ?
nov. 23 21:40:54 <pango>	ils continuent leur mise à jour des installeurs vers leur v2
nov. 23 21:54:39 <Kazurik>	Oh my. I finally got the sound of the main menu in Magicka to work. I think I just might be able to get this working by the end of the day.
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nov. 23 22:13:42 <ben-pol>	hello people
nov. 23 22:13:47 <ptinou>	hello
nov. 23 22:13:59 <ben-pol>	can someone help me
nov. 23 22:15:01 <ben-pol>	im trying to install a game and it is not on the game list so what shall i do guys?
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nov. 23 22:18:10 <ben-pol>	hello
nov. 23 22:19:38 <ben-pol>	can someone just spear 10minutes please
nov. 23 22:26:16 <pango>	hi
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nov. 23 22:27:50 <Fleck>	;p
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nov. 23 22:56:42 <usuario-pol>	Hello
nov. 23 22:56:47 <usuario-pol>	Hello
nov. 23 22:57:05 <ptinou>	hello
nov. 23 22:57:19 <usuario-pol>	My name is Santi
nov. 23 22:57:24 <usuario-pol>	What your name'
nov. 23 22:57:26 <usuario-pol>	?
nov. 23 22:59:16 <usuario-pol>	Hii
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nov. 23 23:36:24 <Dougie187>	Hows it going everyone?
nov. 23 23:36:56 <Dougie187>	pango: you around still?
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nov. 24 00:22:21 <LAWLL>	hey
nov. 24 00:22:26 <ptinou>	hi
nov. 24 00:22:45 <LAWLL>	how do i get theme park world with no cd?
nov. 24 00:22:54 <LAWLL>	:D
nov. 24 00:23:01 <ptinou>	!k LAWLL
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nov. 24 00:23:34 <LAWLL>	May i ask, why i was kicked?
nov. 24 00:23:42 <ptinou>	no cd ?
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nov. 24 00:24:54 <LAWLL>	Oh, illeagl talk?
nov. 24 00:25:04 <ptinou>	yes.
nov. 24 00:25:10 <LAWLL>	Oh sorry :/
nov. 24 00:25:31 <LAWLL>	New to linux just messing around really...
nov. 24 00:25:41 <ptinou>	that's not an excuse
nov. 24 00:25:55 <ptinou>	that's not because you are new that you have to ignore the rules
nov. 24 00:26:11 <LAWLL>	Yeah cause i wanna try games, as the rumors are, linux is the best OS for games
nov. 24 00:27:22 <ptinou>	and what is the link with your illegal copy of theme park ?
nov. 24 00:27:35 <LAWLL>	I don't have one :/
nov. 24 00:27:53 <ptinou>	park world, sorry.
nov. 24 00:29:13 <LAWLL>	So can i leagally download games?
nov. 24 00:29:20 <LAWLL>	If so, where from?
nov. 24 00:29:28 <ptinou>	you have to BUY them
nov. 24 00:29:46 <LAWLL>	Yeah, but where can i buy games for linux
nov. 24 00:33:33 <LAWLL>	What games are compatible on linux
nov. 24 00:34:36 <Kazurik>	Desura.com is really good for finding games that are linux compatible. Also who ever told you Linux was best for games may have been joking.
nov. 24 00:34:52 <LAWLL>	Really?
nov. 24 00:35:38 <LAWLL>	But its all over the net too?
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nov. 24 00:37:07 <Kazurik>	Neither video game publishers nor video card developers really put forth much effort to support Linux. You can play many of the same games on Linux that you can on Windows but you may have to d a lot of work to get them to even start.
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nov. 24 00:37:59 <Kazurik>	That is why things like playonlinux exist. You can go buy Diablo 3 from Battle.net and then tell playonlinux to install it for you. Now you will be able to play D3 on Linux very easily.
nov. 24 00:40:10 <LAWLL>	Ahh okay thanks mate!
nov. 24 00:40:29 <Dougie187>	Kazurik: the video card part is incorrect.
nov. 24 00:40:45 <Dougie187>	Nvidia is putting a lot of effort into improving their linux support. Especially with the beta of steam for linux out
nov. 24 00:40:55 <Kazurik>	Dougie187: Less so these days. Before valve though things where... not great.
nov. 24 00:41:20 <Dougie187>	historically they have supported linux fairly well, though I agree they didn't put near as much support behind them as they do now.
nov. 24 00:41:26 <Dougie187>	ATI doesn't support linux well afaik
nov. 24 00:41:56 <Dougie187>	I don't even know if they are putting effort into improving their drivers wrt steam.
nov. 24 00:42:25 <Dougie187>	I would also highly recommend not playing D3 on linux in it's current state. But there are several other people who would recommend it.
nov. 24 00:43:17 <Kazurik>	Because of the bannings?
nov. 24 00:43:26 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 24 00:44:10 <Dougie187>	Since we don't really know what caused the bannings yet, it's most safe to play on mac or windows.
nov. 24 00:44:40 <Kazurik>	That is a valid concern. D3 and SC 2 are the only games I've managed to get to actually play so thats why I used it as an example.
nov. 24 00:44:45 <Dougie187>	Yeah.
nov. 24 00:44:50 <Dougie187>	I still play SC2 without issue
nov. 24 00:44:53 <Dougie187>	but I got banned from D3
nov. 24 00:44:58 <Dougie187>	So, I don't know what the issue is
nov. 24 00:45:35 <Dougie187>	but also, historically Blizzard games run well under wine/playonlinux
nov. 24 00:45:56 <Kazurik>	Yeah, there the only games I ever have any luck with.
nov. 24 00:46:07 <Dougie187>	I've had amazing luck with valve games too
nov. 24 00:46:10 <Dougie187>	TF2 runs great for me
nov. 24 00:46:15 <Dougie187>	so does Torchlight 2
nov. 24 00:46:34 <Dougie187>	Also, TF2 is free to play, so that's a benefit as wel
nov. 24 00:46:34 <Kazurik>	I haven't played many valve games on Linux yet. It's good to hear TF 2 works well.
nov. 24 00:46:35 <Dougie187>	well*
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nov. 24 02:04:49 <Fenixp>	A bit late to the party (dunno how much, I should enable timestamps,) just want to say that all source engine games work on wine very well, without any modifications. Well all that I have tried.
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nov. 24 02:10:21 <sandieg-pol>	steam is crashing in 1.5.10
nov. 24 02:10:26 <sandieg-pol>	i downgrade to 1.41
nov. 24 02:10:30 <sandieg-pol>	1.4.1
nov. 24 02:11:10 <sandieg-pol>	but when i press install 1.4.1 it crashes also
nov. 24 02:11:16 <sandieg-pol>	it download it
nov. 24 02:11:27 <sandieg-pol>	but them reportrs errors
nov. 24 02:12:31 <sandieg-pol>	beside 1.41
nov. 24 02:12:51 <sandieg-pol>	1.4.1 is there any good wine for steam
nov. 24 02:12:54 <sandieg-pol>	??
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nov. 24 02:31:24 <moreno_15o>	holaa
nov. 24 02:31:24 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel moreno_15o
nov. 24 02:31:34 <moreno_15o>	hablas español
nov. 24 02:31:34 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel moreno_15o
nov. 24 02:31:54 <mypcis2001-pom>	hello
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nov. 24 04:46:07 <solomon-pol>	where is the default location for microsoft office 2010 on playonlinux in ubuntu 12.04
nov. 24 04:46:42 <solomon-pol>	mirosoft office 2010 setup.exe file
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nov. 24 06:44:58 <john-pol>	yo
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nov. 24 07:09:41 <april-pol>	Can anyone help  with iTunes 10?
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nov. 24 09:55:18 <wangjifeng-pol>	当我第一次打开是一值停留在 刷新 43%
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nov. 24 12:54:26 <ifrieth-pol>	HY
nov. 24 12:55:37 <ifrieth-pol>	anybody can helping me..?
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nov. 24 13:39:15 <hvad>	hello/salut
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nov. 24 13:41:09 <Cultist>	salut
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nov. 24 13:53:02 <sandieg-pol>	hi all
nov. 24 13:53:56 <sandieg-pol>	http://pastebin.com/HWtmKu78
nov. 24 13:54:24 <sandieg-pol>	is there a soluction for this?
nov. 24 13:54:35 <sandieg-pol>	clear
nov. 24 13:56:31 <sandieg-pol>	my shortcut command is /usr/share/playonlinux/playonlinux --run "Steam"
nov. 24 13:59:17 <sandieg-pol>	it askes me the passwd for first use
nov. 24 13:59:20 <sandieg-pol>	from save guard
nov. 24 13:59:25 <sandieg-pol>	and doesnt load the menus
nov. 24 13:59:32 <sandieg-pol>	library
nov. 24 13:59:33 <sandieg-pol>	etc..
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nov. 24 14:17:20 <S4nk3>	salut
nov. 24 14:17:39 <Cultist>	salut
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nov. 24 14:24:27 <ifrieth-pol>	hy
nov. 24 14:24:50 <ifrieth-pol>	i wanna asking about program
nov. 24 14:25:07 <ifrieth-pol>	any body can answer me
nov. 24 14:25:11 <Cultist>	then ask
nov. 24 14:25:20 <Cultist>	if someone has an answer, they will answer
nov. 24 14:25:43 <ifrieth-pol>	i wanna playing guild war 2 on POL
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nov. 24 14:26:12 <ptinou>	that is not a question
nov. 24 14:26:12 <ifrieth-pol>	and i have full pacth game on my stroge
nov. 24 14:26:32 <ptinou>	???
nov. 24 14:26:52 <ifrieth-pol>	what i must to do to add on POL
nov. 24 14:26:55 <Cultist>	a fully patched copy in storage you mean?
nov. 24 14:27:03 <ifrieth-pol>	yeah
nov. 24 14:27:35 <Cultist>	you should choose Install Non-Listed Program
nov. 24 14:27:40 <Cultist>	or rather
nov. 24 14:27:46 <Cultist>	the GW2 script if one exists
nov. 24 14:27:48 <Cultist>	(I haven't looked)
nov. 24 14:27:54 <ptinou>	it does.
nov. 24 14:28:29 <Cultist>	is there a web installer for the game that installs a small program that downloads the rest itself?
nov. 24 14:28:38 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 24 14:29:17 <Cultist>	I would install that, then instead of running the patcher, just copy the directory into the prefix
nov. 24 14:29:44 <Cultist>	thats how I would start anyway, it might not work
nov. 24 14:33:18 <ifrieth-pol>	it sya need script, where i can find that script sorry im just newbie on linux
nov. 24 14:34:18 <Cultist>	when you open the POL window, click Install at the top
nov. 24 14:34:25 <Cultist>	then the Games icon
nov. 24 14:35:42 <Cultist>	I only see the first Guild Wars in the list actually
nov. 24 14:36:55 <ifrieth-pol>	ok ill trying
nov. 24 14:37:42 <ifrieth-pol>	thnk for helping me i hope this will working
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nov. 24 14:56:43 <ifrieth-pol>	imaging that working
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nov. 24 15:23:22 <ajl-pol>	Wow. that sort of work!
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nov. 24 15:58:27 <Fenixp>	For the love of triad, how many prerequisities does the capture utility have? It's like a nagging younger sister, "I need this, and this, and this. Oh yeah and this and this." Are there any plans to actually print a complete list when one's missing?
nov. 24 16:01:10 <Fenixp>	Don't get me wrong, it's cool that it bothers to inform you, but right now it's like an evil shopping list from hell
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nov. 24 16:43:52 <bondj>	i get this debug output http://nopaste.info/ccf71681f0.html from running homeworld 2 on 1.5.18 as well as older versions
nov. 24 16:44:04 <bondj>	can anyone help?
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nov. 24 17:02:56 -->	You are now talking on #playonlinux
nov. 24 17:02:56 ---	Topic for #playonlinux is PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac Official IRC | http://www.playonlinux.com/ http://www.playonmac.com/ | Latest version: 4.1.8 | Please speak English or French; We may not answer immediately. | We do not support piracy.
nov. 24 17:02:56 ---	Topic for #playonlinux set by aplu!~APLU@2a02-8420-6992-5900-5115-a87b-6639-6726.rev.sfr.net at Fri Sep 21 20:04:37 2012
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nov. 24 17:17:42 <ripsnorter-pol>	Hi there Im having problems whit installing League Of Legends can any one help
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nov. 24 17:20:40 <usuario-pol>	holaa
nov. 24 17:20:40 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel usuario-pol
nov. 24 17:20:55 <usuario-pol>	alguien sabe como descargarse los sims?
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nov. 24 17:23:31 <ripsnorter-pol>	installing League Of Legends can any one help
nov. 24 17:24:38 <MacyLady>	please one help to install the sims or league of legends !!
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nov. 24 17:33:11 <ripsnorter-pol>	pretty much evry other game in the testing section works fine
nov. 24 17:33:20 <ripsnorter-pol>	how ever the one I want does not
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nov. 24 17:39:58 <Bilbo>	hello!
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nov. 24 17:41:03 <ptinou>	hello
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nov. 24 17:48:32 <ripsnorter-pol>	installing League Of Legends can any one help
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nov. 24 17:49:34 <ripsnorter-pol>	I have been looking at the log
nov. 24 17:49:40 <ripsnorter-pol>	and this is what I found
nov. 24 17:49:41 <ripsnorter-pol>	err:service:service_control_dispatcher failed to open service manager error 1722err:service:service_send_start_message service L"PlugPlay" failed to start
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nov. 24 17:50:06 <ripsnorter-pol>	any ideas on how to fix it
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nov. 24 17:50:32 <ripsnorter-pol>	brb got to reset
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nov. 24 17:58:57 <peters-pol>	where is the update locate
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nov. 24 18:01:04 <SHININGECLIPSE>	where is the update locate
nov. 24 18:01:44 <SHININGECLIPSE>	Please help! What i need to do to run the setup files with PlayOnLinux?
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nov. 24 18:05:11 <SHININGECLIPSE>	Please help! What i need to do to run the setup files with PlayOnLinux?
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nov. 24 18:21:33 <ramzi-pol>	jj
nov. 24 18:22:21 <ramzi-pol>	hello does anyone know why playonlinux is telling me that its website is unavailable ?
nov. 24 18:22:40 <ramzi-pol>	i am not able to load programs list to install
nov. 24 18:22:44 <ramzi-pol>	i am not using a proxy
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nov. 24 18:25:08 <ripsnorter-pol>	so any ideas about LOL
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nov. 24 19:24:37 <PasNox>	still receiving smap from playonlinux users :/
nov. 24 19:24:43 <PasNox>	spam*
nov. 24 19:24:55 <ptinou>	?
nov. 24 19:24:56 <ptinou>	tell me
nov. 24 19:25:00 <PasNox>	i'm not connected from the playonlinux client, but from konversation
nov. 24 19:25:06 <PasNox>	shiningeclipse
nov. 24 19:25:12 <ptinou>	it meens that they are not up to date
nov. 24 19:25:27 <PasNox>	not really spam ( not commercial attracts) but users asking directly for help in private
nov. 24 19:25:51 <PasNox>	ah
nov. 24 19:25:52 <ptinou>	I can do anything about it ...
nov. 24 19:25:56 <ptinou>	I can't prevent users from using irc
nov. 24 19:25:57 <PasNox>	ok, no problem ;)
nov. 24 19:26:21 <PasNox>	maybe there is some channel flag to forbid private query ?
nov. 24 19:26:33 <ptinou>	of course it does not exist
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nov. 24 19:28:43 <PasNox>	:D ok
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nov. 24 19:29:30 <Cultist>	he asked me too
nov. 24 19:29:33 <Cultist>	happens sometimes
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nov. 24 19:32:01 <PasNox>	ok.
nov. 24 19:32:14 <PasNox>	i agre it's better now. it happends only sometimes.
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nov. 24 20:26:07 <Fenixp>	Is it possible to get around DRM like diskchecks without resulting to cracks and / or violence?
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nov. 24 20:27:56 <ptinou>	Fenixp: Read our rules !è
nov. 24 20:28:01 <ptinou>	and the channel topic also
nov. 24 20:31:23 <Fenixp>	You may not answer immediately and you don't support piracy. Eh... So, is it possible to get around DRM like diskchecks without resolving to cracks and / or violence? I'm not asking you to give me link to piratebay, I'm asking whether there's any way to emulate windows DVD drive or whatever that doesn't break dischecks. I'm actually trying to resolve it here without ... Well ... It's hardly piracy when I paid for the damn thing, without 3rd party pat
nov. 24 20:31:23 <Fenixp>	ches.
nov. 24 20:31:57 <ptinou>	sorry, if it would be possible
nov. 24 20:32:03 <ptinou>	if it was *
nov. 24 20:32:06 <ptinou>	we would do it
nov. 24 20:32:38 <Fenixp>	Oh well, always worth asking. Thanks.
nov. 24 20:32:44 <ptinou>	sorry
nov. 24 20:33:45 <Fenixp>	No worries, I'll figure something out.
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nov. 24 21:49:38 <atticus>	hi guys
nov. 24 21:49:43 <ptinou>	hi
nov. 24 21:52:43 <atticus>	first off, i wantet to praise you guys for the new and better look of the 4.1.8 client. second off I wantet to ask for guidance. I installed steam with wine 1.5.17, but it has some display error
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nov. 24 21:53:31 <atticus>	the text is invisible, with the earlyer version '-no-dwrite.dll' worked but not anymore
nov. 24 21:54:01 <atticus>	any idea how to make it work?
nov. 24 21:57:32 <atticus>	or might it be that I placed it worng? I wrote it in the command-line box under miscellaneous
nov. 24 21:57:51 <pango>	I think the function installing fonts should either also update the registry (as winetrick does), or maybe just restart wineserver, if that's sufficient
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nov. 24 21:58:58 <arber-pol>	is anybody here?
nov. 24 21:59:07 <pango>	nope
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nov. 24 22:02:55 <arber-pol>	so funny)
nov. 24 22:05:14 <pango>	damn, the GOG installer v2 seems to leak callbacks... On huge programs like The Witcher v1, the installer stops around 1/4 with a dialog box OK/Cancel/Abort/Retry
nov. 24 22:05:49 <arber-pol>	I want to install the program drugvokruk ( http://drugvokrug.ru/index.htm) but i have a problem
nov. 24 22:06:31 <pango>	what is this program for?
nov. 24 22:08:02 <arber-pol>	the program is installed, there is a problem with fonts, latin fonts look good in it, but the Cyrillic stretched. I do not know what should be put given library, or set preferences.
nov. 24 22:09:31 <arber-pol>	 for a chat. analog icq with some functions
nov. 24 22:10:26 <pango>	ok... just asking because for a while I wondered if it involved data exchange with phones... Given that Wine has no official support for USB, it could have been a no-go
nov. 24 22:11:35 <arber-pol>	i'm install windows version
nov. 24 22:11:47 <arber-pol>	for PC's
nov. 24 22:11:55 <pango>	yup
nov. 24 22:12:29 <arber-pol>	do u speak Russian?
nov. 24 22:12:36 <pango>	not at all
nov. 24 22:12:48 <pango>	just used google translator on the site
nov. 24 22:13:31 <arber-pol>	ok? we willbe speak English
nov. 24 22:13:46 <pango>	fine with me
nov. 24 22:16:01 <arber-pol>	in older versions of wine, up to 1.3.5 are not visible fonts, in versions after 1.4.1 to 1.5.9 fonts stretched letters with 1.5.10 software does not loadtried to install fonts using winetricks does not work, simply copy the folder of fonts windows problem is not treated
nov. 24 22:17:30 <pango>	I never had to deal with font issues with Wine, I don't know what to suggest
nov. 24 22:23:30 <arber-pol>	User Playonlinux is Administator?  can he help me if I will write to him?
nov. 24 22:24:07 <pango>	you mean PlayOnLinux in this channel? It's a bot
nov. 24 22:25:26 <arber-pol>	What can i do? Forum is dead
nov. 24 22:27:03 <pango>	if you can reproduce the problem with just Wine, you could try reporting the problem to Wine devs directly
nov. 24 22:28:42 <pango>	(but first google/yandex a bit around "wine" and "cyrillic", in case there's known issues around those topics)
nov. 24 22:40:21 <arber-pol>	 in other applications do not have problems with fonts
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nov. 24 22:43:07 <pango>	thinking of it, for some reason Wine devs seems to not want to support proprietary chat programs
nov. 24 22:44:23 <Fenixp>	That would be because of technical difficulties or because a proprietary chat program killed their family?
nov. 24 22:44:31 <pango>	no idea
nov. 24 22:47:25 <pango>	just something I noticed from looking at IM programs in the AppDB
nov. 24 22:48:47 <arber-pol>	Sometimes it works well, before just upgraded everything worked like a Swiss watch, only I do not remember which version of the fault was mine.  I've tried many different versions for today, and have not found, checked everything with 1.2.6. to 1.5.6. and selectively 1.5.9, 1.5.10 and 1.5.15
nov. 24 22:50:08 <arber-pol>	I searched on APp DB is not there this application
nov. 24 22:50:26 <pango>	couldn't find it either
nov. 24 22:53:05 <arber-pol>	may be
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nov. 25 00:28:49 <faircop-pol>	Тут по русси говорит кто?
nov. 25 00:28:49 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel faircop-pol
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nov. 25 00:47:10 <adonisv-pol>	hi
nov. 25 00:48:13 <adonisv-pol>	zzzzzzzzzzzz
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nov. 25 07:02:58 <larkin-pol>	hi
nov. 25 07:03:37 <larkin-pol>	Sometimes apps dont work with standard wine, i was wondering are applications usually more succesfull with 'POL'
nov. 25 07:03:42 <larkin-pol>	?
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nov. 25 08:04:09 <ricardo_>	Hi... I signed on your page. I am new in the Linux World. Trying several distros, I lost my user and password in #playonlinux. ¿Is there any way to get them back?
nov. 25 08:05:33 <pango>	Hi, there's no automated procedure at the moment :/ When someone with access to the db is around, maybe something can be done...
nov. 25 08:07:46 <pango>	What's your username on POL? I support I can leave a message to the admins about the issue
nov. 25 08:08:52 <pango>	ah, you said you also forgot the username
nov. 25 08:09:02 <pango>	I don't see what can be done then
nov. 25 08:09:44 <ricardo_>	well, I tried to recover by "signing" again
nov. 25 08:10:07 <ricardo_>	but they have my email. ¿Why not ask a page to recover accounts?
nov. 25 08:10:23 <ricardo_>	I know... but an option in the page...
nov. 25 08:11:02 <pango>	I suppose it's on a TODO list somewhere... :p
nov. 25 08:11:18 <ricardo_>	hehe...
nov. 25 08:11:50 <pango>	Yup, the email could be fine too
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nov. 25 08:13:25 <ricardo_>	so, pango, ¿is there an email where I can send mine, or I tell you it right now?
nov. 25 08:13:32 <pango>	(checking if someone is around on staff channel)
nov. 25 08:14:09 <pango>	Worse case you can send a request to contact@playonlinux.com
nov. 25 08:14:37 <ricardo_>	I must say I am amazed of the world of Linux.... and of Playonlinux.... and of ... Whoa...
nov. 25 08:15:04 <pango>	or send it to me in private, as you want
nov. 25 08:15:51 <pango>	(staff channel looks dead)
nov. 25 08:16:25 <ricardo_>	errr.. you are going to laugh or get angry... ¿how do I send a private message?
nov. 25 08:16:32 <ricardo_>	in IRC??
nov. 25 08:16:50 <pango>	yes
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nov. 25 08:17:21 <ricardo_>	well, let me look on Google for the way to send a private message...
nov. 25 08:17:57 <pango>	I suppose double-clicking on my name in the list of users should open a private channel
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nov. 25 10:25:26 <dan-pol>	hi can anyone help me?
nov. 25 10:25:33 <pango>	hi dan-pol 
nov. 25 10:25:43 <dan-pol>	i'd like to install Might and Magic 7: for blood and honor
nov. 25 10:25:49 <dan-pol>	but not from GOG.com
nov. 25 10:26:00 <dan-pol>	i have the cd bought
nov. 25 10:26:04 <dan-pol>	and i'd like some help
nov. 25 10:26:24 <pango>	mmmh ok, I don't know much about CDROM support though, never needed it
nov. 25 10:26:52 <dan-pol>	so, what should i do to install the game?
nov. 25 10:27:18 <pango>	have you tried a manual installation?
nov. 25 10:27:36 <pango>	Install button > Installer non-listed program
nov. 25 10:27:55 <dan-pol>	hmm let me check...
nov. 25 10:28:55 <pango>	According to the AppDB you _may_ need to install vcrun2008 package http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=5696
nov. 25 10:31:46 <dan-pol>	well, the problem is that the game is in 2 disks...
nov. 25 10:32:10 <dan-pol>	well...thank you very much.
nov. 25 10:32:18 <dan-pol>	i'll look into it
nov. 25 10:32:22 <dan-pol>	have a good day, sir
nov. 25 10:32:24 <pango>	could try stuff like copying both in two directories on your disk
nov. 25 10:32:33 <pango>	but again I don't have experience with CDs installations
nov. 25 10:32:44 <dan-pol>	yea i was just thinking on what to do
nov. 25 10:32:50 <pango>	good luck, have a good day too
nov. 25 10:33:02 <dan-pol>	and im thinking to give 6 bucks for the gog.com version:)
nov. 25 10:33:15 <pango>	yup, that's always a possibility
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nov. 25 10:55:27 <sandieg-pol>	hi all
nov. 25 10:55:40 <pango>	hi sandieg-pol 
nov. 25 10:55:49 <sandieg-pol>	pango how do you do ?
nov. 25 10:55:58 <sandieg-pol>	are you fine?
nov. 25 10:56:26 <pango>	I'm ok, doing lots of things for POL in this Sunday morning :)
nov. 25 10:56:26 <sandieg-pol>	listen to me, ive installed steam i can browser games i've allready downloaded counter strike
nov. 25 10:56:57 <sandieg-pol>	but when i try to play it
nov. 25 10:57:00 <sandieg-pol>	doesnt run
nov. 25 10:57:12 <sandieg-pol>	my tought is im missing some libraries
nov. 25 10:57:20 <sandieg-pol>	i havent installed none
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nov. 25 10:57:42 <pango>	I don't know much about Steam
nov. 25 10:57:57 <live-pol>	hi
nov. 25 10:58:07 <sandieg-pol>	i need directx
nov. 25 10:58:13 <sandieg-pol>	i think isnt installed
nov. 25 10:58:14 <pango>	sandieg-pol: did you install CS using a dedicated script, or installed Steam then installed CS just by using Steam?
nov. 25 10:58:16 <pango>	hi live-pol 
nov. 25 10:58:40 <sandieg-pol>	i downloaded PoL searched for Steam
nov. 25 10:58:47 <sandieg-pol>	installed the game
nov. 25 10:58:55 <sandieg-pol>	but i didnt installed directX
nov. 25 10:59:26 <pango>	sandieg-pol: you can try to install native DirectX, or part of native DirectX then
nov. 25 10:59:30 <sandieg-pol>	i installed the plataform steam
nov. 25 10:59:39 <sandieg-pol>	and them the game when the plataformed updated
nov. 25 10:59:49 <pango>	Configure button > (select virtual drive) > Install packages tab 
nov. 25 10:59:59 <sandieg-pol>	i downloadit for the site and run it
nov. 25 11:00:14 <pango>	then you'll find packages to install parts or full DirectX
nov. 25 11:00:43 <sandieg-pol>	thanks a bouch]
nov. 25 11:00:49 <sandieg-pol>	system is verry stable
nov. 25 11:00:50 <pango>	relying on Wine's own installation is sometimes a little bit faster than native, but if you want to try full native, you can go with dxfullsetup
nov. 25 11:00:56 <sandieg-pol>	here
nov. 25 11:01:24 <sandieg-pol>	i just need 100 fps
nov. 25 11:01:32 <sandieg-pol>	:P
nov. 25 11:01:38 <sandieg-pol>	to own my friends ^^
nov. 25 11:01:44 <sandieg-pol>	75 is enought too
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nov. 25 11:14:25 <sandieg-pol>	i think i clicked the wrong driver
nov. 25 11:14:29 <sandieg-pol>	to install directx
nov. 25 11:14:40 <sandieg-pol>	instead of clicked 32 steam i click the icon of the steam
nov. 25 11:14:43 <sandieg-pol>	:(
nov. 25 11:14:56 <pango>	shouldn't matter
nov. 25 11:15:15 <sandieg-pol>	90/95.6
nov. 25 11:15:18 <sandieg-pol>	almost installed
nov. 25 11:15:20 <sandieg-pol>	^^
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nov. 25 11:21:30 <user1-pol>	Hi,
nov. 25 11:21:40 <pango>	hi
nov. 25 11:21:55 <user1-pol>	need support for a program called "Mein Buero 2013" from Buhl Data
nov. 25 11:22:32 <user1-pol>	http://www.buhl.de/produkte/alle/wiso-mein-buero-2012-download/product.html
nov. 25 11:22:57 <user1-pol>	the program will not run with wine or I can not get it configured to run.
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nov. 25 11:24:04 <pango>	mmmh, it seems there's no entry for it in the AppDB: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?bIsQueue=false&bIsRejected=false&sClass=vendor&iId=421&sAction=view&sTitle=View+Developer
nov. 25 11:25:58 <user1-pol>	yes. it seems nobody missed it, but I need to get it run.
nov. 25 11:26:51 <pango>	it seems to require IE and .NET 2.0, you could try adding packages ie8 and dotnet20 to the virtual drive
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nov. 25 11:31:26 <user1-pol>	can someone add the programm to the project list and get it ready to run?
nov. 25 11:31:52 <pango>	anybody can :p
nov. 25 11:32:08 <user1-pol>	I am a beginner with Ubuntu and have not the experience to get it solved.
nov. 25 11:33:34 <pango>	there's not enough script contributors to fulfil requests, not to mention you'll need one that speaks german for this one I suppose
nov. 25 11:34:08 <user1-pol>	ok, do you know someone who can help?
nov. 25 11:34:45 <pango>	you can always ask in the forum, but don't expect too much, could be that you get no answer
nov. 25 11:35:08 <user1-pol>	ok, thank you very much for your help. Have a nice weekend.
nov. 25 11:35:15 <pango>	have a nice weekend too
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nov. 25 11:59:05 <badr-pol>	Hello !
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nov. 25 11:59:52 <pango>	hi badr 
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nov. 25 12:01:41 <badr>	i got a problem with my tomb raider annyversary in pol
nov. 25 12:01:52 <badr>	*anniversary
nov. 25 12:02:12 <badr>	the game installed fine but won't launch :(
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nov. 25 12:03:33 <badr>	i get a "Error in POL_DownloadPOL_Download - MD5 sum mismatch ! (1 attempt)" message
nov. 25 12:04:45 <pango>	could mean two things: the download didn't finish, or the file available from download URL has been changed
nov. 25 12:06:09 <pango>	on what download do you get that message?
nov. 25 12:06:23 <badr>	The launcher is looking for somme files online before lauching the game ?
nov. 25 12:07:04 <badr>	When i try to execute the game Tomb Raider Anniversary (it installed allright - i tried with and without a NOCD)
nov. 25 12:07:06 <pango>	no, but I assume you get this message during installation
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nov. 25 12:07:59 <pango>	no, but I assume you get this message during installation
nov. 25 12:08:09 <badr>	* sorry  i got disconnected
nov. 25 12:08:26 <pango>	np
nov. 25 12:08:37 <badr>	well the "error window" appears when i try to launch the game
nov. 25 12:09:03 <badr>	no error whatsoever during install
nov. 25 12:09:35 <badr>	(i'm french btw - if you speak french... ;))
nov. 25 12:09:43 <pango>	where did you see this POL_Download message then?
nov. 25 12:10:34 <pango>	(if the matter may be of interest to other users, I prefer to discuss it in english, but that's not a hard rule)
nov. 25 12:11:51 <badr>	this windows appears after in the "launching window" (where you got that circle turning like a clock for litttle while) then => this error in the very same window
nov. 25 12:12:00 <pango>	checking script's source, it does not initialize the debugger, so this could explain you got no feedback during installation
nov. 25 12:13:25 <pango>	mmmh this script 2.5y old and is in need of some updates :p
nov. 25 12:14:07 <badr>	if you want to have a look at the log : http://pastebin.com/sbvuRKnu
nov. 25 12:15:00 <pango>	I assume the installation didn't complete correctly
nov. 25 12:15:06 <ptinou>	plop pa
nov. 25 12:15:13 <pango>	Bonjour Quentin
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nov. 25 12:15:19 <ptinou>	ngo :D
nov. 25 12:15:21 <ptinou>	quoi de neuf ?
nov. 25 12:15:34 <pango>	dotnet11 cassé en Wine 1.5.x
nov. 25 12:15:40 <badr>	Bon sang, vous êtes français ? :D
nov. 25 12:15:52 <pango>	possible :p
nov. 25 12:16:15 <badr>	roOOOhh :)
nov. 25 12:16:24 <pango>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/issue-1584.html
nov. 25 12:16:45 <badr>	merci en tout cas pour ton aide, je vais tenter une install de TRA en natif wine
nov. 25 12:17:15 <pango>	badr: you should check what the script does, could be interesting
nov. 25 12:17:30 <pango>	(even if it's a bit old)
nov. 25 12:18:09 <pango>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/source-45-Tomb_Raider_Anniversary.html
nov. 25 12:18:20 <ptinou>	bon y'a des merdes si j'ai bien suivi
nov. 25 12:18:44 <pango>	badr: nothing really special from what I can tell
nov. 25 12:18:57 <pango>	ptinou: quelques unes
nov. 25 12:19:58 <pango>	badr: yup, beside making sure the amount of video memory is set in the virtual drive registry, it doesn't do much
nov. 25 12:20:27 <badr>	yes i can see that
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nov. 25 12:24:06 <rodrigo-pol>	hh
nov. 25 12:24:34 <rodrigo-pol>	como que se instala o msn por meio desse programa?
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nov. 25 12:25:07 <pango>	!lng rodrigo-pol 
nov. 25 12:25:08 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english rodrigo-pol
nov. 25 12:25:19 <pango>	beside that, msn is not supported under Wine
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nov. 25 12:28:14 <badr>	doing install by hand with latest wine version...
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nov. 25 13:30:38 <vlzvoice>	123
nov. 25 13:32:47 <pango>	?
nov. 25 13:34:54 <vlzvoice>	Hi all. Tell me, what's best to install WoW. Through Play on Linux or wine? Once in the Pol I click install WoW LK, almost immediately get an error "The games are not installed".
nov. 25 13:35:19 <vlzvoice>	Sorry for my English.
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nov. 25 13:35:58 <pango>	WoW LK is an extension, you must install the game first (as I understand)
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nov. 25 13:44:28 <vlzvoice>	Thank you. It is also necessary to establish a pol, and then "rolled forward" extension?
nov. 25 13:45:11 <pango>	sorry, I don't understand what you mean
nov. 25 13:47:18 <vlzvoice>	Okay, thank you very much. Does not matter. I will try to install.
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nov. 25 14:26:37 <almostplayingCSg>	hello
nov. 25 14:26:45 <almostplayingCSg>	Anyone for helping me out ?
nov. 25 14:26:47 <pango>	hi
nov. 25 14:27:02 <almostplayingCSg>	Ive installed the plataform steam, downloaded the game cs go
nov. 25 14:27:11 <almostplayingCSg>	i click to play
nov. 25 14:27:15 <almostplayingCSg>	and game doesnt load
nov. 25 14:27:29 <pango>	I don't know much about Steam support
nov. 25 14:27:41 <almostplayingCSg>	hmmmm ......
nov. 25 14:27:55 <almostplayingCSg>	for games in general
nov. 25 14:27:59 <almostplayingCSg>	do i need to install directX
nov. 25 14:28:02 <almostplayingCSg>	to play them?
nov. 25 14:28:03 <pango>	depends
nov. 25 14:28:25 <pango>	Wine has its own partial implementation, when it works it's better to stick with it
nov. 25 14:29:32 <pango>	have you tried running the shortcut in debug mode?
nov. 25 14:29:45 <almostplayingCSg>	downloading wine 1.4.1
nov. 25 14:29:54 <almostplayingCSg>	i whow do i do it?
nov. 25 14:30:09 <pango>	select the shortcut, click on "Debugging" in the side panel
nov. 25 14:30:46 <almostplayingCSg>	all right let me grab a drink
nov. 25 14:30:53 <almostplayingCSg>	i will do it
nov. 25 14:34:04 <almostplayingCSg>	tell me one thing
nov. 25 14:34:15 <almostplayingCSg>	before i start the debug
nov. 25 14:34:24 <almostplayingCSg>	Direct Draw Renderer
nov. 25 14:34:30 <almostplayingCSg>	is openGL ?
nov. 25 14:34:52 <almostplayingCSg>	pango
nov. 25 14:34:54 <pango>	default one, yes
nov. 25 14:35:35 <pango>	you get some warning about OpenGL when POL starts?
nov. 25 14:35:51 <almostplayingCSg>	nop
nov. 25 14:36:07 <almostplayingCSg>	starting the debug mode
nov. 25 14:36:56 <almostplayingCSg>	ixme:winhttp:WinHttpDetectAutoProxyConfigUrl discovery via DHCP not supportedfixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet
nov. 25 14:37:27 <pango>	warnings
nov. 25 14:39:14 <almostplayingCSg>	loading pastbin
nov. 25 14:39:17 <almostplayingCSg>	to show you\
nov. 25 14:40:46 <almostplayingCSg>	err:wgl:is_extension_supported No OpenGL extensions found, check if your OpenGL setup is correct!
nov. 25 14:40:50 <almostplayingCSg>	maybe this is a error
nov. 25 14:41:13 <pango>	regression in Wine, fixed in 1.5.18 I think
nov. 25 14:41:50 <pango>	http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30270
nov. 25 14:43:23 <pango>	or maybe just Steam "In my testing I found Steam to be plain stupid since it really tries to load
nov. 25 14:43:23 <pango>	OpenGL functions before OpenGL is up. On my system using Nouveau Steam starts
nov. 25 14:43:23 <pango>	fine even with Steam doing stupid stuff. Later on Steam initializes GL
nov. 25 14:43:23 <pango>	properly.
nov. 25 14:43:23 <pango>	"
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nov. 25 14:47:52 <Zurfluh-pom>	http://www.geeks3d.com/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=208
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nov. 25 14:58:41 <almostplayingCSg>	what is that pom
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nov. 25 15:09:38 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	guys
nov. 25 15:09:42 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	Engine error
nov. 25 15:09:54 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	your graphic hardware does not support all features CSM
nov. 25 15:10:04 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	needed to run this game
nov. 25 15:10:28 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	DXLevel:95, MInDXSupportLeve: 90 , MaxDXSupportLevel: 95
nov. 25 15:10:42 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	hthis is passing all  limits
nov. 25 15:12:20 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	how do i fix this crazy biatch
nov. 25 15:17:51 <pango>	http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=25413#Comment-77954
nov. 25 15:18:34 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	thank you
nov. 25 15:18:44 <pango>	You can try this: Configure button > (select virtual drive) > Install packages tab > "VideoDriver"
nov. 25 15:19:31 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	im trying first to update to 12.10
nov. 25 15:19:42 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	im running 12.4
nov. 25 15:19:56 <pango>	Ubuntu I suppose
nov. 25 15:20:00 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	i pray to god this will be the finall issue
nov. 25 15:21:02 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	debian
nov. 25 15:21:13 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	i dont like ubuntu
nov. 25 15:21:21 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	to be honest i hate ubuntu ppl
nov. 25 15:21:28 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	they want allways code step by step
nov. 25 15:21:37 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	inmstructions
nov. 25 15:21:37 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	blablabla
nov. 25 15:21:47 <pango>	what with those 12.4 and 12.10 then?
nov. 25 15:21:50 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	they dont have a clue what they are doing
nov. 25 15:22:13 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	ati drivers
nov. 25 15:22:16 <pango>	oh ok :p
nov. 25 15:22:22 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	i will install the latest ones
nov. 25 15:22:36 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	where u from pango
nov. 25 15:22:39 <pango>	France
nov. 25 15:22:50 <pango>	near Bordeaux to be more precise
nov. 25 15:22:56 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	you like beeing french :P
nov. 25 15:23:11 <pango>	Depends :p
nov. 25 15:23:18 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	have you played warsow
nov. 25 15:23:20 <pango>	But I'm not sure it's better elsewhere really
nov. 25 15:23:25 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	before
nov. 25 15:23:25 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	?
nov. 25 15:23:35 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	big comunity
nov. 25 15:23:51 <pango>	Nope
nov. 25 15:24:03 <pango>	I'm mostly a retro gamer
nov. 25 15:26:05 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	what means retro gamer?
nov. 25 15:26:05 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	you play padman?
nov. 25 15:26:36 <pango>	mostly playing classical games (from GOG.com)
nov. 25 15:26:43 <pango>	few are less than 5y old
nov. 25 15:26:45 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	:D
nov. 25 15:26:58 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	all right
nov. 25 15:27:52 <pango>	but I'm spending more time writing scripts for those than actually playing them :D
nov. 25 15:29:08 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	nice one
nov. 25 15:29:16 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	:D
nov. 25 15:32:09 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	if the mouse doesnt move in games
nov. 25 15:32:19 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	what should we do ?
nov. 25 15:32:30 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	i have a friend complaining about it
nov. 25 15:32:43 <pango>	Could be lots of things
nov. 25 15:33:00 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	i think he has it plugin
nov. 25 15:33:12 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	:-P
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nov. 25 15:33:49 <pango>	try enabling mouse grabbing (right click on shortcut > Configure Wine > Display > Automatically grab mouse in full screen apps)
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nov. 25 15:34:33 <pango>	or MouseWarpOverride (Configure button > (select virtual drive) > Misc. tab > Mouse warp override = force)
nov. 25 15:34:57 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	thanks :)
nov. 25 15:35:14 <pango>	checking the AppDB for game specific issues is also a good thing to try
nov. 25 15:42:06 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	brb
nov. 25 15:42:13 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	video driver installation is fast isnt it ?
nov. 25 15:42:24 <pango>	yup, just a registry update
nov. 25 15:46:10 <almostDONEcsGOGO>	brb them
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nov. 25 19:18:07 <tawane>	bonjour
nov. 25 19:18:17 <pango>	bonsoir
nov. 25 19:18:39 <tawane>	je suis nouveau sur POL, j'ai une ou 2 questions rapides, je peux ?
nov. 25 19:18:54 <pango>	oui, bien sûr
nov. 25 19:19:15 <tawane>	je viens de terminer de mettre à jour un script
nov. 25 19:19:26 <tawane>	j'ai voulu le poster sur le forum, mais je n'arrive pas à avoir le syntax highlight
nov. 25 19:19:41 <pango>	[code language=playonlinux] ... [/code]
nov. 25 19:19:48 <tawane>	ok merci
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nov. 25 19:22:49 <tawane>	sinon, y'a t'il un moyen d'envoyer un script perso, qui n'a pas été créé par l'assistant directement dans le logiciel ?
nov. 25 19:23:30 <pango>	Outils > Exécuter un script local ?
nov. 25 19:23:38 <pango>	ou utiliser playonlinux-bash
nov. 25 19:23:55 <pango>	euh j'ai peut-être mal compris... envoyer?
nov. 25 19:24:03 <tawane>	mmmh
nov. 25 19:24:11 <pango>	envoyer dans le logiciel <=> exécuter ?
nov. 25 19:24:11 <tawane>	en fait mon script tourne nickel en local
nov. 25 19:24:12 <tawane>	pas de souci
nov. 25 19:24:33 <tawane>	je voudrais juste y voir un peu plus clair sur la procédure à suivre pr en faire profiter la communauté
nov. 25 19:24:49 <tawane>	j'ai exploré les options dans PlayOnLinux Online directement dans le logiciel
nov. 25 19:25:24 <pango>	Je n'ai jamais creusé PlayOnLinux Online à vrai dire
nov. 25 19:25:29 <tawane>	mais j'ai l'impression que c'est surtout pour envoyer des scroipts générés avec l'assistant, pour des logiciels qui n'étaient pas encore supportés
nov. 25 19:25:31 <pango>	j'ai toujours envoyé les scripts par le site wev
nov. 25 19:25:33 <pango>	b
nov. 25 19:26:09 <tawane>	y'a une interface sur le web pour faire ca ? ou c'est par mail directement aux devs ?
nov. 25 19:26:11 <pango>	Logiciels supportés > Nouvel installeur
nov. 25 19:26:35 <tawane>	okéééééé je l'aurais cherché longtemps :D
nov. 25 19:27:03 <pango>	quand le script est prêt il y a une option pour demander sa validation
nov. 25 19:27:58 <tawane>	ok merci beaucoup
nov. 25 19:28:08 <tawane>	j'ai toutes les infos que je voulais
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nov. 25 19:28:22 <pango>	pas de souci
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nov. 25 19:35:26 <u-pol>	hello
nov. 25 19:35:31 <pango>	hi u-pol 
nov. 25 19:35:45 <u-pol>	wops ... the jazzjackrabbit 2 has taken a second to download
nov. 25 19:36:09 <u-pol>	and of course, crash
nov. 25 19:36:25 <u-pol>	Bad download, I guess
nov. 25 19:39:20 <u-pol>	where I can send this problem ?
nov. 25 19:39:54 <pango>	did the script suggest to send a bug report?
nov. 25 19:40:00 <u-pol>	yes
nov. 25 19:40:07 <u-pol>	I send it via bug, isnt?
nov. 25 19:40:10 <pango>	that's the preferred way, as it also sends the install log, etc.
nov. 25 19:40:18 <u-pol>	great, thanks
nov. 25 19:40:21 <pango>	np
nov. 25 19:44:13 <u-pol>	pango , the debug window with the sad face... I push next and nothing happens.
nov. 25 19:44:44 <u-pol>	debug no , sorry the "playonlinux has encountered an error"
nov. 25 19:45:20 <u-pol>	also is written in the text box "click on debug link to get more details"
nov. 25 19:45:38 <pango>	I suspect the problem is that the script is old and doesn't initialize the debugger support correctly
nov. 25 19:45:46 <u-pol>	aham
nov. 25 19:46:34 <pango>	but the problem is not difficult to spot (or so it looks)
nov. 25 19:46:51 <pango>	the script tries to download //www.abandonware-utopia.com/pages/telechargement/jeux/Jazz%20Jackrabbit%202.zip, but doing this I get an HTML page
nov. 25 19:47:11 <pango>	so the URL is obsolete, as you suspected
nov. 25 19:47:30 <u-pol>	yeah
nov. 25 19:47:42 <u-pol>	one second of download... my line isnt that fast
nov. 25 19:47:48 <pango>	:D
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nov. 25 19:49:46 <u-pol>	that page has gone go to hell
nov. 25 19:50:03 <pango>	http://www.abandonware-utopia.com/abandonware-telecharger-682-Jazz_Jackrabbit_2.htm
nov. 25 19:50:28 <pango>	they switched to 7zip, but there could be more (like things preventing deep linking)
nov. 25 19:50:34 <u-pol>	yeah, i found it too but the download appears be necesary had a account
nov. 25 19:50:51 <u-pol>	sending sms and all these thing, isnt?
nov. 25 19:51:20 <pango>	sms I doubt it, but at least need to be logged in
nov. 25 19:51:36 <pango>	problem is, it totally breaks the script
nov. 25 19:51:50 <u-pol>	http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/294/Jazz+Jackrabbit+2.html
nov. 25 19:52:28 <u-pol>	could i change the script to use some local file ?
nov. 25 19:53:11 <pango>	script looks like this: http://www.playonlinux.com/en/source-411-Jazz_Jackrabbit_2.html
nov. 25 19:53:46 <pango>	download happens line 36
nov. 25 19:54:31 <u-pol>	aham, where is store the file of the download?
nov. 25 19:54:51 <u-pol>	drive_c of wine...
nov. 25 19:55:03 <pango>	in the current directory of the script at that point
nov. 25 19:55:20 <pango>	which is drive_c of Wine prefix indeed
nov. 25 19:56:30 <pango>	I'll report the problem and switch the script to "beta", at least
nov. 25 19:59:01 <pango>	Well, 50MB is not that large, I guess it'd be ok to host it
nov. 25 19:59:35 <pango>	(if its status is clear, at least)
nov. 25 20:01:25 <u-pol>	Im testing the sonic fan remix, works so great
nov. 25 20:07:31 <u-pol>	absolutely all the games are downloaded?
nov. 25 20:08:30 <pango>	depends on the game, some script support CDROM/DVDROM, others local files, others Steam, GOG,...
nov. 25 20:08:59 <u-pol>	aham
nov. 25 20:09:10 <u-pol>	when refer to downloaded version, refer to the steam version ?
nov. 25 20:09:51 <pango>	Steam is usually referred as Steam, as it requires specific support
nov. 25 20:10:00 <u-pol>	amh :S
nov. 25 20:10:55 <u-pol>	wops... another game fails without ask me nothing during install
nov. 25 20:11:04 <u-pol>	sonic adventure dx
nov. 25 20:12:11 <u-pol>	WOW SShock2!
nov. 25 20:16:25 <u-pol>	pango the sonic adventure dx fails during the install process (without ask me nothing )
nov. 25 20:17:22 <pango>	what kind of installation did you choose, local file?
nov. 25 20:17:56 <u-pol>	digital donwload version
nov. 25 20:18:10 <u-pol>	but the program dont gain to ask me nothing, simply sad face again
nov. 25 20:18:21 <u-pol>	do you get something more?
nov. 25 20:19:31 <pango>	lots and lots of scripts are in need of an update
nov. 25 20:22:22 <u-pol>	I could make a account and send directly the bugs
nov. 25 20:22:33 <u-pol>	I already do it for blender and another programs
nov. 25 20:22:50 <u-pol>	well, steam works very well xD
nov. 25 20:23:32 <pango>	bug reports are useful, bug fixes even more so... We're in lack of script maintainers at the moment
nov. 25 20:23:45 <pango>	my plate is already full with just my own scripts
nov. 25 20:24:38 <pango>	with GOG upgrading all its installers, I still have 20 scripts to update, and I'm sure I'll get just as many in a week or two...
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nov. 25 20:28:26 <u-pol>	GOG is a great idea
nov. 25 20:28:38 <u-pol>	there is much people interested on retro games
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nov. 25 20:30:01 <pango>	yup, count me in :)
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nov. 25 20:33:07 <u-pol>	and also a lot of indie
nov. 25 20:33:39 <pango>	yup, but many indie games have Linux versions
nov. 25 20:33:50 <pango>	too bad GOG does not support Linux (yet :D)
nov. 25 20:33:50 <u-pol>	blender in graphics had some sense?
nov. 25 20:34:13 <u-pol>	I mean : there is version for the three main SO
nov. 25 20:34:51 <pango>	yup, I don't know the point of this script
nov. 25 20:35:11 <u-pol>	i wait steam make the linux plataform interesant for games and then, principal developers
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nov. 25 20:35:58 <u-pol>	codeblocks the same xD
nov. 25 20:36:30 <pango>	I've mixed feelings with Steam
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nov. 25 20:37:07 <pango>	many game developers have gone indie, and now the game distribution is being centralized... does anyone see the issue? :p
nov. 25 20:37:24 <u-pol>	they are not supporting linux for good, they make it for their future console, computer or like they wish call it
nov. 25 20:37:41 <u-pol>	but anyway, I look it like positive
nov. 25 20:38:29 <u-pol>	what do you think about that? canibalism ?
nov. 25 20:39:21 <pango>	devs freedom being taken away again: prices, release policies, whatnot
nov. 25 20:39:50 <pango>	I'm not sure it's that good for the market... oh, well
nov. 25 20:40:13 <u-pol>	but you are not obliged to steam
nov. 25 20:40:32 <pango>	the bigger they become, the harder it'll be to avoid them
nov. 25 20:40:36 <u-pol>	if you are sufficient good (MINECRAFT) you can pass of it
nov. 25 20:41:43 <u-pol>	the problem can be the prices, when they start to make much offers
nov. 25 20:41:59 <u-pol>	the authors must gain less for steam decision ?
nov. 25 20:43:42 <pango>	it's not just that, when you control money you start to control more than just money...
nov. 25 20:44:17 <pango>	anyway... we may not be there yet, just something to keep in mind
nov. 25 20:44:56 <pango>	turning anything into a monopoly and it can become a hazard
nov. 25 20:45:14 <u-pol>	in computing is asthoning like happens with everything
nov. 25 20:46:34 <pango>	network effects, dematerialization, it's even easier to get monopolies in computing than in many fields
nov. 25 20:46:37 <u-pol>	In everything is only two brands to choose in the end
nov. 25 20:47:58 <u-pol>	also I think you can say "hey , the rice AMAZING is the best rice" but anybody cares about it, even if its true
nov. 25 20:48:25 <u-pol>	if you read one cpu or gpu or something is better than another, the buiers goes always to the same
nov. 25 20:48:57 <u-pol>	its something people likes, its like a football team
nov. 25 20:49:25 <u-pol>	one guetto like apple or something else , like a property
nov. 25 20:51:03 <pango>	probably many forces at stake, but I'm not a sociologist
nov. 25 20:51:55 <u-pol>	that is the job of the future
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nov. 25 20:53:29 <pango>	what is sure is that there's many "natural" reasons that can lead to such concentrations, so it's important to be aware of it
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nov. 25 20:59:03 <andrea-pol>	hi
nov. 25 21:00:01 <andrea-pol>	did someone know something about a crash saving xlsx?
nov. 25 21:03:16 <pango>	(personally I'm only using POL for gaming)
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nov. 25 21:23:19 <chrisq>	any news on efforts to make POL "bottles" portable?
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nov. 25 21:26:33 <chrisq>	basically this is what i awnt: Being able to install a game/app in a bottle, zip it down and unzip and use on any other computer
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nov. 25 21:52:45 <Benighted>	hey all, having a problem running DOTA 2 on POL, it launches, I can see loading and hear sound but it forces my resolution to 640x480
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nov. 25 22:05:49 <sebolo-pol>	hii maybe someone can help me .... i try to intall age of empire 2 but wen the install finish pol try to dowload somethink like ....dlllinux.....but the progress bar stop end lock the program?? someone have some experience with this game
nov. 25 22:05:50 <sebolo-pol>	??
nov. 25 22:08:20 <pango>	mmmh that's something changed very recently
nov. 25 22:09:25 <pango>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/issue-1580.html
nov. 25 22:10:42 <Benighted>	anyone know how I can fix dota 2 launching in 640x480?
nov. 25 22:11:53 <Benighted>	tried changing .Playonlinux/wineprefix/steam/dota 2/....video.txt, now it launches windowed mode in 1920x1080 but the game is loading in 640x480 and crashing (I suspect
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nov. 25 22:12:52 <charles-pol>	sdsdsd
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nov. 25 22:12:59 <pango>	?
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nov. 25 22:13:22 <charles-pol>	hi
nov. 25 22:13:27 <charles-pol>	guys
nov. 25 22:13:28 <pango>	hi
nov. 25 22:13:46 <Abs_Sik>	you alright
nov. 25 22:13:54 <chrisq>	pango: you know why wine gives "access violation" when trying to install a game when the install file is on a fuse filesystem?
nov. 25 22:13:54 <charles-pol>	so so
nov. 25 22:14:35 <Abs_Sik>	havent come accross that problem yet im affraid
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nov. 25 22:15:03 <pango>	chrisq: because fuse filesystems do not support all the features of standard filesytems... Maybe something with mmap()
nov. 25 22:15:10 <Benighted>	anyone know how to fix games launching in steam (via wine>POL) in 640x480?
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nov. 25 22:16:13 <chrisq>	pango: ah right, the file is actually executed. i was only thinking about how it transferred flawlessly with all file utils
nov. 25 22:17:50 ChanServ chrisq 
nov. 25 22:17:53 <pango>	chrisq: yup
nov. 25 22:18:55 <pango>	Benighted: I had a look at the AppDB, but nothing really obvious http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=24458
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nov. 25 22:26:53 <Benighted>	it's been driving me batty the past week now
nov. 25 22:42:17 <Benighted>	it's killing me here, I can hear the music, and no matter what I do the window size is 640x480 and crashes after loading
nov. 25 22:44:43 <Benighted>	it even says 'Loading...' but all I hear is sound playing and a white flash in the middle of the screen
nov. 25 22:45:50 <Benighted>	mouseover also seems to work, can't see what I'm clicking though
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nov. 25 23:15:05 <Benighted>	Hey guys, DOTA 2 launching in 640x480, recognizes mouse (e.g. pointer changes to hand) but can't see what I'm clicking on
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nov. 25 23:41:47 <Nek>	Hey ptinou
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nov. 25 23:41:56 <Nek>	Alors ça s'est bien passé ton Symfonyage ?
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nov. 26 00:06:07 <michele-pol>	can any one tell me why the Itunes app does not work properly?
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nov. 26 01:27:15 <zoktar>	yey i got chivalry working :)
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nov. 26 02:09:05 <yoeloco-pol>	hello
nov. 26 02:09:21 <yoeloco-pol>	can any body support me?
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nov. 26 03:51:08 <brisingr93-pol>	hey guys wassup is this a help desk or wat
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nov. 26 05:06:08 <cody-pol>	sup people
nov. 26 05:06:15 <cody-pol>	anyone playing slender
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nov. 26 05:07:21 <cody-pol>	is that a yes or a no
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nov. 26 05:54:11 <brandon-pol>	oh dear god. integrated irc client
nov. 26 05:54:36 <brandon-pol>	I'm having trouble running Internet Explorer 1
nov. 26 05:54:41 <brandon-pol>	Nothing is showing up correctly
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nov. 26 05:54:49 <brandon-pol>	Is there a patch for this?
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nov. 26 11:46:11 <tiago-pol>	hi guys, how to I install more than one steam with different names?
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nov. 26 11:47:12 <tiago-pol>	I just installed another steam in a different wineprefix just to install one game and it overwrote the previous link of steam i had
nov. 26 11:49:19 <jenny-pol>	ic hhab zwar ein spiel installieren können aber es funktioniert trozdem nicht...
nov. 26 11:51:28 <jenny-pol>	Although I have to install a game but it does not still useable ...
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nov. 26 11:55:04 <jenny-pol>	Although I have to install a game but it does not still useable ...
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nov. 26 12:58:33 <alinmear>	i have some problems running wow on playonlinux: there are no objects on surface
nov. 26 12:58:37 <alinmear>	any ideas?
nov. 26 12:58:47 <alinmear>	wine 5.18
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nov. 26 13:08:00 <aurelio-pol>	Hey, anyone managed to install Planetside 2 on POL ?
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nov. 26 13:36:28 <aurelio-pol>	Nobody playing Planetside 2 ?
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nov. 26 13:39:12 <tiago-pol>	hi
nov. 26 13:39:15 <tiago-pol>	keyboard input not working on virtual desktop
nov. 26 13:39:27 <tiago-pol>	how do i sold this?
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nov. 26 15:13:35 <claude-jean-pol>	bonjour
nov. 26 15:14:24 <claude-jean-pol>	j'ai un problème pour l'installation du jeu cities xl sous wine
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nov. 26 16:40:32 <fenixp>	Oh damn it
nov. 26 16:41:04 <fenixp>	I've been forced to reinstall the system and just grabbed 'playonlinux' hidden folder in my home
nov. 26 16:41:31 <fenixp>	When I reinstalled PoL and copied it over, well... Some games work. Others don't. Is there easy solution, or do I have to reinstall everything?
nov. 26 16:43:06 <fenixp>	That's not really a problem you know, I have no issues with just reinstalling everything, it's more of a problem with a script for TW2 that one of you guys sent me. I've bookmarked it so I have it saved. Ha, system thinks otherwise
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nov. 26 17:26:58 <pangoafk>	fenixp: did you keep the same login name?
nov. 26 17:27:04 ---	You are now known as pango
nov. 26 17:27:20 <fenixp>	Yeah, still fenixp
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nov. 26 17:28:22 <fenixp>	Unless... Well, can I check?
nov. 26 17:28:41 <fenixp>	I'm certain it was fenixp previously as well, but hey, I'm the first to say that my memory sucks
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nov. 26 17:33:25 <fenixp>	Ummm... Ok, this is kind of new. I'm reinstalling Skyrim and whenever Steam launches I can't see any text. Never had this issue before.
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nov. 26 17:57:26 <fenixp>	Anyone around?
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nov. 26 18:26:26 <fenixp>	People
nov. 26 18:26:27 <fenixp>	?
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nov. 26 19:11:38 <sam-pol>	im getting a run.dll is missing error... What package do I install to fix this?
nov. 26 19:12:05 <fenixp>	It seems kind of dead here now
nov. 26 19:12:15 <fenixp>	I can however give you some psychological support
nov. 26 19:12:27 <fenixp>	Have a good day! and all that. Yeah, I came here with a problem too.
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nov. 26 19:18:25 -->	Dougie187 (~douglasj@c-68-35-11-65.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) has joined #playonlinux
nov. 26 19:20:45 <Dougie187>	Hey guys
nov. 26 19:20:53 <ptinou>	hi
nov. 26 19:21:07 <Dougie187>	How's it going?
nov. 26 19:22:36 <ptinou>	fine
nov. 26 19:22:43 <Dougie187>	Cool
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nov. 26 19:29:02 <Dougie187>	ptinou: want to read the letter I sent to blizzard? :P
nov. 26 19:29:11 <ptinou>	you can still send it.
nov. 26 19:29:59 <Dougie187>	It's a bit long.
nov. 26 19:30:09 <Dougie187>	https://www.dropbox.com/s/r0gtohginkq3qk9/FeedbackLetter.pdf
nov. 26 19:31:14 <fenixp>	Darn it, who's the person who helped me with TW2?
nov. 26 19:31:26 <Dougie187>	TW2?
nov. 26 19:31:28 <fenixp>	Yeah
nov. 26 19:31:30 <fenixp>	oh
nov. 26 19:31:33 <fenixp>	The Witcher 2
nov. 26 19:31:35 <Dougie187>	Oh
nov. 26 19:31:38 <Dougie187>	Not me. :P
nov. 26 19:32:03 <fenixp>	And yeah, the entire thing with Diablo 3's stupid. Could have been resolved by just ... I don't know ... INCLUDING OFFLINE MODE.
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nov. 26 19:32:31 <pango>	Good evening everybody
nov. 26 19:32:44 <Dougie187>	fenixp: yeah. :P
nov. 26 19:32:47 <Dougie187>	Good evening pango
nov. 26 19:32:56 <Dougie187>	Or.. Bonsoir? (Did I spell it right)?
nov. 26 19:33:02 <pango>	you did
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nov. 26 19:34:24 <fenixp>	pango, it was you pango, wasn't it?
nov. 26 19:34:28 <pango>	Talking about emails, I wrote GOG about a problem with their new installer on large games
nov. 26 19:34:33 <fenixp>	The person who helped me with The Witcher 2
nov. 26 19:34:34 <pango>	fenixp: could be :)
nov. 26 19:34:54 <pango>	with unofficial install scripts and stuff
nov. 26 19:35:00 <Dougie187>	pango: How'd that go?
nov. 26 19:36:10 <pango>	Dougie187: their installer seems to leak some resource (callbacks?) so for large games it crashes under Wine, that statically allocates 4096
nov. 26 19:36:35 <pango>	I notified them of this, so they could fix it (that looks like a latent bug)
nov. 26 19:36:45 <fenixp>	pango: Ok, I just don't want to spam the public channel by re-requesting something. Basically, you sent me the script, it worked fantastic. So, to not lose it, I made a bookmark, I have made a script file on my harddrive and ... My harrdrive crashed this morning! Yaaaay! So basically, could you please resend me the link to the script if it's not too much trouble?
nov. 26 19:37:00 <pango>	the answer was that I could use an utility to extract the files out of the installer, or use /nogui switch
nov. 26 19:37:28 <pango>	if they insist I may do just that :p
nov. 26 19:37:50 <pango>	fenixp: sure
nov. 26 19:38:03 <pango>	fenixp: everything's in my github
nov. 26 19:38:20 <Dougie187>	lool
nov. 26 19:38:24 <Dougie187>	lol* that's a weird response.
nov. 26 19:38:39 <pango>	fenixp: if I remember well you used this one: https://github.com/petchema/playonlinux/blob/master/contrib/thewitcher2-gog
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nov. 26 19:38:59 <pango>	fenixp: and the script I wrote: https://github.com/petchema/playonlinux/blob/master/broken/thewitcher2-gog
nov. 26 19:39:03 <Dougie187>	pango: this is the response I got to that 4 page letter... "I have read the letter, and will also be passing it on. I wish you the best."
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nov. 26 19:39:30 <pango>	Dougie187: raise Exception
nov. 26 19:39:57 <Dougie187>	?
nov. 26 19:40:05 <pango>	Dougie187: he didn't know what to do with it
nov. 26 19:40:09 <Dougie187>	lol yeah
nov. 26 19:40:18 <Dougie187>	I asked who he was passing it on to, and if he had any comments.
nov. 26 19:40:25 <Dougie187>	He was the one who threatened me over the phone too. :P
nov. 26 19:41:10 <fenixp>	pango: Oh thank you, THANK YOU. I'm saving this on dropbox. Grr.
nov. 26 19:41:33 <fenixp>	Also, I'm having a weird issue with Steam. http://www.playonlinux.com/en/topic-9758-Steam_no_fonts.html
nov. 26 19:41:51 <fenixp>	That, pretty much. I have described the problem in ... some detail. I hope it's just something trivial.
nov. 26 19:41:53 <sam-pol>	im making a defualt 64 with almost all packages installed --- is this recommended?
nov. 26 19:42:13 <pango>	fenixp: I noticed that the function installing fonts does less work that the winetricks equivalent
nov. 26 19:42:54 <pango>	fenixp: it copies the fonts, but does not update the registry itself. I guess it works because Wine will do the job when it's next restarted
nov. 26 19:43:16 <pango>	fenixp: but I wonder if that could be the reason for this problem (but I don't understand why it's showing up just now)
nov. 26 19:43:28 <fenixp>	pango: I ... Ok, I have no idea what you just said. But a direction's a good thing, off to the googlemobile
nov. 26 19:43:37 <pango>	sam-pol: default 64?
nov. 26 19:43:47 <fenixp>	At least I can get Witcher 2 working again, that's a plus
nov. 26 19:43:53 <pango>	sam-pol: 64bit?
nov. 26 19:44:02 <sam-pol>	yeah, a 64bit
nov. 26 19:44:35 <pango>	sam-pol: Wine in 64bit is relatively new, and for most programs it brings no benefit that I can think of
nov. 26 19:45:00 <pango>	sam-pol: that said several distros have switched to some kind of 64bit Wine, for better or worse
nov. 26 19:45:14 <pango>	so either it's not that bad, or they don't care
nov. 26 19:45:50 <sam-pol>	so relatively speaking, if I have a default virtual drive... and install all possible packages on it, most programs will support it?
nov. 26 19:45:51 <pango>	several packages (from POL at least) also only install in 32bit virtual drives
nov. 26 19:46:49 <pango>	I think most dotnet* packages fit in this category, probably others... Should check the sources to be sure
nov. 26 19:47:27 <sam-pol>	Yeah you are correct... I am just trying to make this the least bit of headache without having to have 10million virtual drives
nov. 26 19:47:51 <pango>	well, you'll probably get interesting headaches with that approach too
nov. 26 19:48:28 <pango>	for one there's no really clean way of uninstalling software under Wine, at least by keeping everything in its own virtual drive you just have to wipe out the virtual drive
nov. 26 19:49:19 <pango>	will you be installing games, or mostly other kind of apps?
nov. 26 19:49:31 <sam-pol>	I am trying to install both currently...
nov. 26 19:49:41 <sam-pol>	the one I am trying to work out is KeePass
nov. 26 19:50:00 <sam-pol>	I got it working once, on a different f17 but can't figure out why it isn't working now
nov. 26 19:50:44 <pango>	for games, using the same setup for several games could lead to average performance for both, because often they require specific tweaks, that may not add up all that well
nov. 26 19:51:05 <pango>	at least there's that risk, it could be acceptable most of the time
nov. 26 19:51:07 <sam-pol>	I see
nov. 26 19:52:33 <pango>	(KeePass 2 I assume, as KeePassX is compatible with v1)
nov. 26 19:52:50 <sam-pol>	Yeah, KeePass2, so I can use KeeFox in firefox
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nov. 26 19:54:14 <sam-pol>	how taxing is it to have different versions of wine + different virtual boxes of apps/games running at the same time?
nov. 26 19:54:25 <fenixp>	Oooh, ok, more problems are surfacing. The exact script that worked perfectly for TW2 earlier suddenly ends with 'wine has crashed'
nov. 26 19:54:36 <sam-pol>	won't this create multiple processes of wine?
nov. 26 19:55:30 <pango>	sam-pol: multiple wineserver yes, but I seldom start more than one game at a time :p
nov. 26 19:56:10 <pango>	sam-pol: I don't think it uses that much resources, though
nov. 26 19:57:03 <sam-pol>	Haha... I'm a freak I guess... I am new to Fedora (obviously) but I have decent coding knowledge. Its mainly trying to figure out how to process things and etc
nov. 26 19:57:16 <sam-pol>	I just now figured out my video card driver install -_-
nov. 26 19:58:18 <pango>	Wine uses a client-server architecture, much like X
nov. 26 19:58:49 <pango>	a single wineserver process for all the programs of a virtual drive ("prefix" in Wine slang)
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nov. 26 19:59:06 <pango>	and they communicate thru a socket
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nov. 26 19:59:47 <sam-pol>	I experimented with Xen but my drivers wouldn't crossover cause my pIC ids weren't attaching *shrugs* which brings me to trying to use PoL
nov. 26 20:01:16 <pango>	tried to run Windows in paravirtualization?
nov. 26 20:01:31 <sam-pol>	virt-manager
nov. 26 20:02:10 <sam-pol>	but yeah, with VT-d
nov. 26 20:02:45 <fenixp>	Hmmm... Ok, I tried deleting local POL files to force the first launch setup again. It claims that it can't reach playonlinux website
nov. 26 20:02:51 <fenixp>	Is there something wrong with it?
nov. 26 20:03:35 <pango>	interesting, thought Xen was only paravirtualizing, but Xen 3 seems to do plain virtualization too
nov. 26 20:03:55 <sam-pol>	yep
nov. 26 20:04:23 <sam-pol>	I had problems with it --- the crossover wouldn't work with my device ids
nov. 26 20:04:33 <pango>	fenixp: restarted POL, seems it contacted the site just fine
nov. 26 20:05:10 <pango>	sam-pol: I should spend some time trying out those toys... But not on this laptop, its cpu has no support for virtualization at all :/
nov. 26 20:05:27 <fenixp>	Ok, hmmm... When I was installing playonlinux in the first place, the installation got interrupted. I'd like to try reinstalling it completely.
nov. 26 20:05:30 <sam-pol>	let me send you a link
nov. 26 20:05:36 <fenixp>	Is it apt-get purge playonlinux ?
nov. 26 20:05:37 <pango>	sam-pol: 32bit virtualization works, but slowly
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nov. 26 20:05:51 <sam-pol>	http://www.overclock.net/t/1205216/guide-create-a-gaming-virtual-machine
nov. 26 20:06:05 <pango>	fenixp: removing  ~/.PlayOnLinux should have been sufficient
nov. 26 20:06:13 <pango>	fenixp: it doesn't save state anywhere else
nov. 26 20:06:26 <fenixp>	What if installed files are corrupted in some way?
nov. 26 20:06:54 <pango>	fenixp: you used packaging from your distro?
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nov. 26 20:07:15 <fenixp>	I've installed using the guide on POL website
nov. 26 20:07:18 <fenixp>	Precise version
nov. 26 20:07:47 <pango>	fenixp: I thought the packaging would have checked archive integrity, at least
nov. 26 20:07:51 <sam-pol>	its taking me forever to download wine 1.5.16
nov. 26 20:08:06 <sam-pol>	bout 30min elapsed for 22.5MB?
nov. 26 20:08:15 <pango>	fenixp: you can try reinstalling, but I'm a bit skeptical it'll fix anything
nov. 26 20:08:39 <fenixp>	Thing is, the installation of POL got interrupted in the middle. I'm having some RAM issues, so my system freezes randomly. Part of why I lost my HDD data.
nov. 26 20:09:16 <pango>	sam-pol: it's not very fast atm, but I'll probably download it in around 1 min
nov. 26 20:09:37 <pango>	fenixp: yuck :p
nov. 26 20:09:37 <fenixp>	But it resumed upon starting the OS again. Which made me impressed and vorried by equal margin.
nov. 26 20:09:44 <fenixp>	*worried
nov. 26 20:09:53 <sam-pol>	--- I have 15MB d/l speed with 20MBu/s
nov. 26 20:09:57 <fenixp>	So ... Is it apt-get purge playonlinux ? :D
nov. 26 20:10:39 <pango>	sam-pol: doesn't saturate the line here either, maybe the site is under some kind of DoS
nov. 26 20:10:52 <pango>	fenixp: something like that, yes
nov. 26 20:11:01 <pango>	fenixp: I don't use it every day :p
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nov. 26 20:11:24 <pango>	sam-pol: what's strange is that the web interface looks responsive
nov. 26 20:11:33 <Joshua-pol>	Trying to run League of Legends on Fedora, anyone got any tips for me please?
nov. 26 20:12:07 <pango>	Mail.RU_Bot doing lots of hits
nov. 26 20:12:13 <pango>	not sure it's the issue
nov. 26 20:12:23 <fenixp>	There. I've purged the unclean.
nov. 26 20:12:26 <sam-pol>	finally it finished :D
nov. 26 20:12:53 <fenixp>	... and installed it again. Now I'm gonna reboot the computer.
nov. 26 20:13:00 <fenixp>	because you can never be too sure
nov. 26 20:13:04 <pango>	fenixp: lol
nov. 26 20:13:06 <sam-pol>	can i ask a general video question even if this is for PoL?
nov. 26 20:13:10 <Joshua-pol>	Anyone?...
nov. 26 20:13:16 <fenixp>	Leave me alone, I come from Windows! :D
nov. 26 20:13:27 <pango>	Joshua-pol: I have almost no experience with Fedora
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nov. 26 20:14:19 <Joshua-pol>	Fair enough, thanks anyway.
nov. 26 20:14:43 <sam-pol>	I run a Radeon HD 5770 AMD -- and I installed the driver. the System Setting Details shows I have VESA: Juniper
nov. 26 20:14:58 <sam-pol>	is this a gnome fallback?
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nov. 26 20:15:45 <fenixp>	yus, it works now!
nov. 26 20:16:03 <fenixp>	well, downloading of windows fonts anyway
nov. 26 20:16:51 <fenixp>	It's magic, I say. Magic!
nov. 26 20:16:59 <pango>	lol
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nov. 26 20:20:13 <Khob>	is there a patch or something to make laegue of legends 1.71 (april 16th release) work?
nov. 26 20:20:19 <pango>	Started out with Slackware, tried RedHat for a while, but quickly moved on to Debian
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nov. 26 20:20:54 <bernard-pol>	czesc
nov. 26 20:21:02 <ptinou>	!k bernard-pol
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nov. 26 20:21:28 <Khob>	! ptinou
nov. 26 20:21:30 <sam-pol>	Fedora 17 here... and loving it
nov. 26 20:21:34 <bernard>	hi
nov. 26 20:21:35 <Khob>	!k ptinou
nov. 26 20:21:35 <ptinou>	!k Khob
nov. 26 20:21:36 <PlayOnLinux>	Access denied
nov. 26 20:21:41 <ptinou>	!k Khob
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nov. 26 20:21:47 <bernard>	sam
nov. 26 20:21:55 <sam-pol>	?
nov. 26 20:21:59 <ptinou>	yaho c'est kick party
nov. 26 20:22:00 <bernard>	wiedz jak wlaczcyc gre na ubuntu
nov. 26 20:22:01 <bernard>	?
nov. 26 20:22:03 <ptinou>	!lng bernard
nov. 26 20:22:05 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english bernard
nov. 26 20:22:32 <sam-pol>	Ich Spreche Englisch...
nov. 26 20:22:56 <bernard>	U know how to run the game on Ubuntu?
nov. 26 20:23:04 <bernard>	leauge of legends
nov. 26 20:23:35 <pango>	bernard: Install button > check "Testing" checkbox > look for League of Legends in Games section
nov. 26 20:23:50 <sam-pol>	try this
nov. 26 20:23:52 <sam-pol>	http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141&iTestingId=74700
nov. 26 20:24:18 <bernard>	yee i know but iam newbie
nov. 26 20:24:26 <bernard>	and 1st time doing this
nov. 26 20:24:33 <sam-pol>	follow the directions and comments on the page i gave you.
nov. 26 20:25:57 <pango>	ptinou: the GOG installer v2 crashes under Wine for large games (TW2, Chronicles of Riddick, for now)
nov. 26 20:26:12 <pango>	ptinou: the issue seems to be some kind of resource leak
nov. 26 20:26:18 <ptinou>	:S
nov. 26 20:26:31 <pango>	ptinou: wrote them, as it's like a latent bug
nov. 26 20:26:55 <pango>	ptinou: answer was to either unpack the installer with a 3rd party tool, or use /nogui parameter
nov. 26 20:27:08 <ptinou>	(coming back)
nov. 26 20:27:20 <bernard>	i dont know what i have first to do when i am trying to install lol
nov. 26 20:27:24 <bernard>	that is a problem
nov. 26 20:27:41 <bernard>	i have wine installed and playonlinux too
nov. 26 20:27:59 <pango>	bernard: just do as I suggested
nov. 26 20:28:45 <bernard>	where is install button
nov. 26 20:29:08 <pango>	"+" one
nov. 26 20:29:38 <bernard>	;p
nov. 26 20:29:57 <ptinou>	pango: I will see that next week
nov. 26 20:30:01 <ptinou>	I'm busy at the moment
nov. 26 20:30:15 <pango>	ptinou: no problem
nov. 26 20:30:33 <pango>	ptinou: I may try /nogui too, to see what it does
nov. 26 20:30:39 <bernard>	pango: cant find it
nov. 26 20:30:59 <Dougie187>	Did you check the testing box?
nov. 26 20:31:10 <bernard>	i cant find it
nov. 26 20:31:31 <Dougie187>	ok, so you clicked install, and it brought up another menu, right?
nov. 26 20:31:49 <bernard>	in playonlinux?
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nov. 26 20:31:51 <Dougie187>	yes
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nov. 26 20:31:58 <bernard>	so... there is no lol
nov. 26 20:32:01 <bernard>	in any section
nov. 26 20:32:08 <Dougie187>	There is, but did you do what I just said?
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nov. 26 20:32:26 <bernard>	yes about testing box
nov. 26 20:32:29 <Dougie187>	There is a search box, where you enter the name of the game. Just to the right of that there is a testing checkbox
nov. 26 20:32:45 <Dougie187>	then, type league into the search box
nov. 26 20:32:50 <Dougie187>	and league of legends comes up
nov. 26 20:32:53 <bernard>	i tried that
nov. 26 20:33:01 <bernard>	and there is no :O
nov. 26 20:33:03 <Dougie187>	I literally have it up in front of me.
nov. 26 20:33:22 <bernard>	maybe i should turn again my pc after updates
nov. 26 20:33:33 <bernard>	and then will appear
nov. 26 20:33:39 <bernard>	so let me do that
nov. 26 20:33:43 <Dougie187>	ok
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nov. 26 20:33:51 <bernard>	i will be back soon
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nov. 26 20:35:21 <pango>	reminds me of someone that rebooted Linux when IE installation asked if it could reboot the box
nov. 26 20:36:20 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 26 20:36:23 <pango>	which led to a failed installation, as the script didn't complete
nov. 26 20:38:03 <pango>	hard to explain why it was the wrong thing to do, though :p
nov. 26 20:38:43 <pango>	one of those "close the window" moments...
nov. 26 20:38:47 <Dougie187>	lol yeah
nov. 26 20:38:56 <Dougie187>	seems like there is a bit of a language barrier too
nov. 26 20:39:59 <pango>	in this case, also some "virtualization" concepts missing
nov. 26 20:40:44 <Dougie187>	yeah
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nov. 26 20:47:37 <bernard-pol>	dougie
nov. 26 20:47:45 <bernard-pol>	there  is no lol
nov. 26 20:47:50 <bernard-pol>	after reboot pc
nov. 26 20:47:59 <bernard-pol>	i have 4.1.8 versoion
nov. 26 20:49:18 <Dougie187>	I have 4.1.8 and there is most definitely LoL.
nov. 26 20:49:28 <pango>	try clicking on "Refresh" button
nov. 26 20:49:28 <bernard-pol>	i dont know
nov. 26 20:50:38 <bernard-pol>	i have 64bit version maybe its problem?
nov. 26 20:50:45 <Dougie187>	I'm on 64bit
nov. 26 20:50:51 <bernard-pol>	i have it now
nov. 26 20:50:54 <bernard-pol>	afrter refresh ;d
nov. 26 20:50:57 <bernard-pol>	thx pango
nov. 26 20:51:08 <bernard-pol>	but refresh was too simple to did that xd
nov. 26 20:51:31 <bernard-pol>	thx
nov. 26 20:51:38 <bernard-pol>	dougie u try LoL?
nov. 26 20:51:54 <Dougie187>	I haven't played it.
nov. 26 20:52:02 <bernard-pol>	what about other games
nov. 26 20:52:12 <bernard-pol>	but ofc on linux
nov. 26 20:52:24 <bernard-pol>	its worthtplay or not?
nov. 26 20:52:40 <Dougie187>	I've played TF2, D3, SC2, and Torchlight 2 on linux
nov. 26 20:53:08 <bernard-pol>	ok now playonlinux is downloading some files
nov. 26 20:53:25 <bernard-pol>	oohh that nice, i hope LoL will work correctly
nov. 26 20:53:48 <bernard-pol>	ubuntu is better then windows i though
nov. 26 20:53:57 <bernard-pol>	than*
nov. 26 20:54:30 <Dougie187>	I agree
nov. 26 20:54:37 <Dougie187>	So does valve apparently. :P
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nov. 26 20:55:37 <pango>	LoL updater is a little brittle under Linux
nov. 26 20:56:06 <pango>	And we've heard of new versions of LoL coming that will break under Wine
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nov. 26 20:56:30 <pango>	(not sure it's out yet - last check I did LoL was still running fine for me)
nov. 26 20:57:04 <bernard-pol>	pango u too on 64?
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nov. 26 20:57:25 <pango>	yup, Debian Sid, 64bit
nov. 26 20:57:45 <bernard-pol>	ok
nov. 26 20:58:01 <bernard-pol>	i hope is still work
nov. 26 21:00:15 <bernard-pol>	where i can find the file Leaugeoflegends.tar?
nov. 26 21:00:22 <bernard-pol>	i should choose setup.exe ?
nov. 26 21:00:34 <pango>	nope
nov. 26 21:00:38 <bernard-pol>	so
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nov. 26 21:00:59 <sam-pol>	hmm guys
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nov. 26 21:01:44 <pango>	bernard-pol: http://server2.playonlinux.com/files/LeagueOfLegends.tar
nov. 26 21:01:45 <sam-pol>	when downloading packages via Yum or PoL it seems my DL speed is redirected so that the packetflow from the download has main priority
nov. 26 21:02:45 <sam-pol>	Example: Downloading a packet from PoL - do a speed test (bandwidth should split) but I get 1Mbps download... end the DL from PoL I get my usual 15Mbps
nov. 26 21:03:02 <sam-pol>	Is this a packet-flow error?
nov. 26 21:03:47 <pango>	POL usually uses wget to do a single threaded HTTP transfer... Absolutely nothing fancy
nov. 26 21:04:41 <sam-pol>	yeah, I realized that... but I still dont get why its doing that... its not PoL related, I did happen to debug that.
nov. 26 21:05:07 <bernard-pol>	where is the progress of downloading?
nov. 26 21:05:17 <bernard-pol>	ok i have it
nov. 26 21:05:36 <bernard-pol>	i will write u about result
nov. 26 21:05:39 <pango>	bernard-pol: it's like, 1.6GB file
nov. 26 21:06:01 <pango>	sam-pol: bufferbloat maybe
nov. 26 21:07:20 <sam-pol>	i dont even know how I would test if bufferbloat is the cause
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nov. 26 21:08:54 <bernard-pol>	ye 20 minuts left
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nov. 26 21:10:51 <sam-pol>	bufferbloat isnt an external problem is it? (router or ISP?)
nov. 26 21:11:06 <pango>	yup
nov. 26 21:11:11 <sam-pol>	it is?
nov. 26 21:11:31 <sam-pol>	hmm, maybe i need to update my router
nov. 26 21:11:34 <pango>	actually it can be a problem with any/all hops between the server and you
nov. 26 21:18:39 <sam-pol>	sorry ahead of time for flooding the chat
nov. 26 21:18:43 <sam-pol>	err:wincodecs:PngDecoder_CreateInstance Failed reading PNG because unable to find libpng12.so.0fixme:ole:CoCreateInstance no instance created for interface {9edde9e7-8dee-47ea-99df-e6faf2ed44bf} of class {389ea17b-5078-4cde-b6ef-25c15175c751}, hres is 0x80004005err:wincodecs:PngDecoder_CreateInstance Failed reading PNG because unable to find libpng12.so.0fixme:ole:CoCreateInstance no instance created for interface {9edde9e7-8dee-47ea
nov. 26 21:19:29 <pango>	missing 32bit libpng12.so.0 then
nov. 26 21:20:02 <sam-pol>	how to install?
nov. 26 21:20:22 <pango>	yum install something
nov. 26 21:20:33 <sam-pol>	ok :D
nov. 26 21:20:39 <pango>	not sure for installing 32bit libs
nov. 26 21:22:16 <sam-pol>	yum find *libpng12.so.0 might work?
nov. 26 21:23:38 <sam-pol>	no matches found :(
nov. 26 21:23:57 <sam-pol>	AHAHA
nov. 26 21:24:02 <sam-pol>	I GOT IT
nov. 26 21:24:08 <sam-pol>	*bows to pango
nov. 26 21:24:50 <pango>	yum find */libpng12.so.0 maybe?
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nov. 26 21:26:22 <sam-pol>	yumex has the required packets
nov. 26 21:26:40 <sam-pol>	but another problem :D
nov. 26 21:26:59 <sam-pol>	when you create a shortcut to the desktop, where should it pop up?
nov. 26 21:27:41 <pango>	I don't use shortcuts on desktop
nov. 26 21:28:03 <fenixp>	Oh crap, well the witcher 2 install works, but the problem with fontless Steam persists
nov. 26 21:28:08 <pango>	from time to time I delete a few hundred shortcuts from my previous tests :p
nov. 26 21:28:33 <bernard-pol>	sooo i can play couinter strike 1.6 too ?
nov. 26 21:28:35 <bernard-pol>	:)
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nov. 26 21:29:22 <fenixp>	However, Steam itself launches. Huraay
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nov. 26 21:33:13 <fenixp>	It's still fontless, but I'm launching Skyrim trough script extender, so pffft
nov. 26 21:33:29 <sam-pol>	easy fix for the fontless
nov. 26 21:33:54 <sam-pol>	install windows fonts to the virtual drive
nov. 26 21:35:24 <sam-pol>	WOOT i got the warz launched not
nov. 26 21:35:29 <sam-pol>	now*
nov. 26 21:35:55 <fenixp>	... how and which ones? I'm a total and complete newb here
nov. 26 21:36:07 <fenixp>	besides, playonlinux installed windows fonts right at the beginning
nov. 26 21:36:14 <fenixp>	And Steam fonts work with another version of Wine
nov. 26 21:36:25 <sam-pol>	you have to reinstall for virtual drives
nov. 26 21:36:46 <bernard-pol>	i will try steam too but 1st LoL xd
nov. 26 21:36:51 <fenixp>	So umm... I just download whatever windows font installer and it'll work?
nov. 26 21:37:12 <sam-pol>	i just by default for steam install all fonts possible
nov. 26 21:37:49 <fenixp>	I need to be communicated as we were in Fallout and I've had intelligence 1. "File. .exe. Click. Goes doo-doo"
nov. 26 21:38:31 <fenixp>	I found some sort of windows font megapack
nov. 26 21:38:48 <sam-pol>	try it :
nov. 26 21:39:19 <fenixp>	I'll try it, if I figure out what to do with it. Does the installation work on the same principle as in Windows, that is placing the fonts into windows \ whatever folder?
nov. 26 21:40:44 <sam-pol>	it should do it automatically for you
nov. 26 21:41:26 <fenixp>	'cause I didn't find an .exe installer, I found loads of .ttf files
nov. 26 21:43:03 <sam-pol>	your making it more difficult than it is...
nov. 26 21:43:29 <fenixp>	Windows font goes doo-doo
nov. 26 21:43:46 <sam-pol>	right click - configure, find the fonts in the instal packages
nov. 26 21:44:09 <fenixp>	... Oh.
nov. 26 21:44:58 <fenixp>	Well now I feel dumb
nov. 26 21:45:16 <fenixp>	Oh, it's still fontless
nov. 26 21:46:07 <fenixp>	It's progress tho, the fontless window is slightly more squary now
nov. 26 21:46:56 <fenixp>	I think I should point out that when I tried to run this exact install script on Linux Mint 12 (I'm on 14 now, HDD crash is as good excuse to upgrade as any,) the fonts ran fine
nov. 26 21:47:01 <fenixp>	I didn't add anything else
nov. 26 21:47:22 <fenixp>	But now, the very same install script doesn't work properly.
nov. 26 21:48:56 <fenixp>	Hmm, maybe it's an issue with Steam. I'll delete everything but Steam.exe and installed games, it should fix itself
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nov. 26 21:50:35 <bernard-pol>	ok so LoL launcher start
nov. 26 21:50:40 <tward-pol>	Hi, I'm trying to install office 2010, in Arch Linux and am getting "installation language not supported"
nov. 26 21:50:40 <bernard-pol>	now is updating
nov. 26 21:50:46 <fenixp>	oh ok, it's still fontless
nov. 26 21:50:59 <tward-pol>	I'm in english here, but wondering if I need to configure the language setting somewhere.
nov. 26 21:54:38 <pango>	tward-pol: POL uses system settings... (?)
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nov. 26 21:56:04 <tward-pol>	For KDE or for Wine or for PlayOnLinux?
nov. 26 21:56:36 <tward-pol>	Okay, I think I found it in KDE, available language was not selected.
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nov. 26 22:15:22 <morb-pol>	Hi. Just bought Resonance from GOG.com on sale, I swear I saw a script for the game in POL, but there isn't now... Was it removed?
nov. 26 22:15:49 <tward-pol>	Still getting language not supported followed by binary not found for office 2010 apps.
nov. 26 22:16:00 <tward-pol>	After setting default language in KDE under Arch.
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nov. 26 22:19:36 <tward-pol>	Could this be my issue?err:ole:ifproxy_release_public_refs IRemUnknown_RemRelease failed with error 0x800706be
nov. 26 22:20:17 <pango>	morb-pol: I have the game but I didn't write a script for it yet
nov. 26 22:20:29 <sam-pol>	how do you get sound to work in games?
nov. 26 22:20:39 <pango>	morb-pol: could be that someone wrote a script in the forums too, but I don't remember seeing one
nov. 26 22:22:10 <pango>	sam-pol: try killing PulseAudio daemon temporarily?
nov. 26 22:23:05 <pango>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/issue-1314.html
nov. 26 22:23:08 <morb-pol>	pango: Hmm, I'm sure it was in the POL menu's, as in tested&approved scripts, but... I snooped around forums now, googled site:playonlinux.com and there is no trace of the game, so I guess I was wrong.
nov. 26 22:24:44 <pango>	I've yet to install it... Installer v2 updates take most of my time :p
nov. 26 22:25:15 <sam-pol>	i figured it out pango, thanks :D
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nov. 26 22:28:35 <sam-pol>	now to figure out fullscreen
nov. 26 22:28:42 <tward-pol>	Figured out my issue: pacman -S lib32-libxml2 fixed it
nov. 26 22:28:53 <sam-pol>	when game is fullscreen it flashes then makes it windowed
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nov. 26 22:34:09 <morb-pol>	pango: Resonance from GOG installs without problems as a generic app. I'll test the game itself tonight. Crashes on exit. With wine 1.5.5 and 1.4.1, same thing. Should I paste debug info somewhere, or wait until the script gets into the testing repo?
nov. 26 22:42:21 <pango>	it could just be that they forgot to set exitcode to 0
nov. 26 22:42:50 <pango>	which is interpreted by POL as "something wrong must have happened", unless you silence it
nov. 26 22:43:03 <Dougie187>	Anyone play DOTA2?
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nov. 26 22:49:34 <Marmotte>	Dougie187: only under Windows, I didn't install Steam with PoL
nov. 26 22:50:22 <Marmotte>	(and Steam Linux with native Team Fortress 2 works fine ! :D)
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nov. 26 22:57:16 <morb-pol>	pango: Dumb question: Could GOG.com - Resonance script be made by taking GOG - Gemini Rue script and changing some strings? Looks like they use the same engine.
nov. 26 22:58:19 <pango>	morb-pol: probably, you want to try it?
nov. 26 22:59:06 <pango>	morb-pol: source is available from http://www.playonlinux.com/en/source-1329-GOGcom__Gemini_Rue.html
nov. 26 22:59:10 <morb-pol>	I will try it now, but I've never done any POL hacking so might take some time.
nov. 26 23:00:06 <pango>	morb-pol: edit, run with Tools > Run local script or using playonlinux-bash
nov. 26 23:00:47 <Dougie187>	Marmotte: Did you get an invite to the bet?
nov. 26 23:00:48 <Dougie187>	beta*
nov. 26 23:00:57 <morb-pol>	OK, thx, will report back very soon.
nov. 26 23:01:19 <Marmotte>	Dougie187: no invite :)
nov. 26 23:01:25 <pango>	morb-pol: (and indeed this one too needs its exit silenced)
nov. 26 23:01:29 <Dougie187>	but you can still play on the linux native?
nov. 26 23:01:36 <Marmotte>	yes
nov. 26 23:01:44 <Dougie187>	that's interesting.
nov. 26 23:01:58 <Marmotte>	download the steam.deb file from the valve website, install it, launch, install a game... :)
nov. 26 23:02:06 <Dougie187>	that's it?
nov. 26 23:02:16 <Dougie187>	Does it run better than TF2 in wine?
nov. 26 23:02:30 <Marmotte>	I never used Steam games with Wine
nov. 26 23:02:45 <Marmotte>	but it runs without any problem
nov. 26 23:03:13 <Marmotte>	all mouse buttons works fine (I have a Logitech G500)
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nov. 26 23:03:59 <Dougie187>	nice
nov. 26 23:04:07 <Dougie187>	Marmotte: want to read the letter I sent to Blizzard? :P
nov. 26 23:04:26 <Marmotte>	I may help me to write mine... :)
nov. 26 23:04:34 <Dougie187>	pm'd it
nov. 26 23:04:49 <Dougie187>	It's a bit long. :P so sorry about that
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nov. 26 23:05:00 <Dougie187>	I sent it to William already
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nov. 26 23:13:11 <pango>	GOG w8 support now official... I wonder if that means a stop in installer v2 updates, or if this is unrelated
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nov. 26 23:18:26 <pango>	(by the wait I didn't pick anything from the GOG's "5 for $10" promo... got 5 of them already, plus 4 from Humble Bundle... then you're left with many games that have native Linux versions or that don't work under Wine... Once I remove the ones I can't stand graphically, I'm left with exactly 5 games that don't appeal me that much...
nov. 26 23:19:28 <pango>	So I'll probably be missing some of those in my collection
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nov. 26 23:22:17 <sam-pol>	where is the mono located for PoL?
nov. 26 23:22:47 <pango>	mono?
nov. 26 23:22:57 <sam-pol>	wine-mono
nov. 26 23:23:12 <pango>	you want to avoid downloading it each time?
nov. 26 23:23:13 <sam-pol>	its installed on default
nov. 26 23:23:27 <pango>	it's installed by default by Wine 1.5.7+ or something like that
nov. 26 23:23:44 <sam-pol>	No, i have a program that requires knowing the location of it
nov. 26 23:23:49 <sam-pol>	and it isnt in /usr/bin/
nov. 26 23:24:51 <pango>	I don't understand
nov. 26 23:25:14 <morb-pol>	pango: Yeah, Gemini Rue script works, just by renaming strings. Doesn't set the icon for the game in POL startscreen, but the game starts ok, no crash on exit, played for a minute or so and no problems there either.
nov. 26 23:26:05 <pango>	morb-pol: ok, so the script should be easy to write, most of the time will be spent in Gimp ;)
nov. 26 23:26:32 <morb-pol>	Huh? Why not just reuse icons that came w/ package?
nov. 26 23:26:50 <morb-pol>	I can't seem to find them, but they must be somewhere.
nov. 26 23:27:02 <pango>	morb-pol: POL needs 48x48 and a 22x22 icons
nov. 26 23:27:13 <pango>	then there's two gfx, 150x356 and 64x64, for the installer
nov. 26 23:29:32 <pango>	and then screenshots, when I'm not too bored to make them :p
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nov. 26 23:30:57 <morb-pol>	Where do I get $GOG_ID? Is that a hash of setup.exe, or a link to GOG download page?
nov. 26 23:31:36 <pango>	it's the last part in gamecard URL, see URL in POL_SetupWindow_presentation parameters
nov. 26 23:32:28 <pango>	the other parameters of POL_GoG_setup are the MD5 hashes of installer files
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nov. 26 23:35:15 <sam-pol>	ok, i got it. Had to do a yum install mono-devel
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nov. 26 23:40:07 <bernard-pol>	how to improve number of FPS in LOL game?
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nov. 26 23:46:16 <bernard-pol>	hello
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nov. 27 00:11:15 <morb>	pango: Wanna go through the script? I also made icons.
nov. 27 00:11:48 <pango>	can you post it on the "Your creations" forum?
nov. 27 00:12:02 <pango>	you can use [code language=playonlinux] ... [/code] to get syntax highlighting
nov. 27 00:13:29 <morb>	OK.
nov. 27 00:20:40 <morb>	Ummm... Should I leave the original author's name or remove it?
nov. 27 00:22:34 <pango>	what others often do is put their name and mention it's based on whatever other script by whatever author
nov. 27 00:23:31 <pango>	example http://www.playonlinux.com/en/source-1467-GOGcom__Deponia.html
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nov. 27 00:30:50 <morb>	pango: One more question. If I upload that, does that make me the author responsible to troubleshoot any problems other people may have with the game? I don't think I'm qualified for that. Do you wan't to take it from here? Since you have the game, you were probably going to write the script sooner or later :)
nov. 27 00:31:37 <pango>	as you wish, yes I suppose I can handle the support in this case
nov. 27 00:32:06 <pango>	I'd be reluctant if I didn't have the game to do my own tests indeed
nov. 27 00:37:48 <pango>	time to call it a night, I'm literally falling asleep... night all
nov. 27 00:37:51 <morb>	Cool. Thanks. Here is the link. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13805211/resonance.zip
nov. 27 00:38:20 <morb>	nnž
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nov. 27 00:42:37 <pango>	You don't even want to put your nick or POL username on the script?
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nov. 27 00:49:43 <DiscipleOfDante>	Excuse me can someone help me out? I am trying to make applications in PlayOnLinux integrate better with my GTK theme?
nov. 27 00:49:57 <DiscipleOfDante>	I found a script for WINE but it doesn't work for PlayOnLinux
nov. 27 00:50:59 <morb>	pango: I don't think I deserve credit for this. As I said, I just renamed some strings.
nov. 27 00:51:23 <pango>	DiscipleOfDante: you can try running it from a virtual drive console... In any case you'll have to do it for each virtual drive
nov. 27 00:51:35 <pango>	morb: as you want
nov. 27 00:51:54 <DiscipleOfDante>	I only have one currently but is the virual drive console unix or DOS
nov. 27 00:52:03 <DiscipleOfDante>	And it is a python script too
nov. 27 00:52:48 <pango>	DiscipleOfDante: Configure button > (select virtual drive) > Miscellaneous tab > Open a console in this virtual drive    (not sure of exact wording, my current locale is not english)
nov. 27 00:52:58 <DiscipleOfDante>	Okay that works
nov. 27 00:53:16 <DiscipleOfDante>	I will try to run the script from the virtual drive console
nov. 27 00:54:29 <pango>	just by curiosity, where does this script come from?
nov. 27 00:54:35 <DiscipleOfDante>	Open a shell?
nov. 27 00:54:43 <DiscipleOfDante>	http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/easily-get-wine-apps-to-match-your-gtk-theme
nov. 27 00:54:46 <pango>	yes, probably Open a shell
nov. 27 00:56:54 <pango>	POL comes with a function called Lunatheme that applies some theme to Wine too, but I've found out it can break things (like Internet Explorer)
nov. 27 00:58:00 <DiscipleOfDante>	I can't find that
nov. 27 00:58:06 <DiscipleOfDante>	is it in a shell or something
nov. 27 00:59:47 <DiscipleOfDante>	If I install LunaTheme does it make wine use my GTK theme any?
nov. 27 00:59:51 <pango>	Lunatheme? "Install components" tab > LunaTheme
nov. 27 00:59:59 <DiscipleOfDante>	Found it
nov. 27 01:00:44 <DiscipleOfDante>	How do I run a python script in terminal?
nov. 27 01:00:59 <morb>	pango: Sorry for keeping you up, one more thing needs to be added (I think). There is a winsetup.exe binary in the game folder in Program Files. It's an external setup program for game graphics. I don't know how POL handles that, I guess it needs to be somewhere.
nov. 27 01:01:00 <DiscipleOfDante>	py /path/to/script/ ?
nov. 27 01:02:15 <pango>	DiscipleOfDante: python /path/to/script.py yes, or just /path/to/script.py if you already gave it execution rights
nov. 27 01:02:24 <pango>	morb: the script already does that, check at the end
nov. 27 01:02:37 <DiscipleOfDante>	I did both but neither worked
nov. 27 01:03:10 <pango>	morb: to access it: Configure button > (select virtual drive) > General tab > Run configuration wizard
nov. 27 01:03:28 <morb>	Yes, I see it. My bad.
nov. 27 01:03:37 <pango>	morb: np
nov. 27 01:04:44 <DiscipleOfDante>	Hmmmm maybe I don't have python installed on my system?
nov. 27 01:05:34 <pango>	DiscipleOfDante: doubtful, it's quite standard those days
nov. 27 01:05:46 <pango>	DiscipleOfDante: try python --version
nov. 27 01:07:42 <DiscipleOfDante>	not installed
nov. 27 01:08:06 <DiscipleOfDante>	WEIRD
nov. 27 01:08:07 <DiscipleOfDante>	but then, I AM on Arch
nov. 27 01:08:21 <pango>	:D
nov. 27 01:14:33 <DiscipleOfDante>	Darn it doesn't work
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nov. 27 01:14:50 <DiscipleOfDante>	Of course it is over a year old so yeah that makes sense
nov. 27 01:14:53 <DiscipleOfDante>	If I knew anything about python I couls fix it
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nov. 27 01:28:09 <DiscipleOfDante>	pango: do you know python?
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nov. 27 01:52:27 <pango>	DiscipleOfDante: yup, but a bit less about 2am :D
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nov. 27 02:00:06 <DiscipleOfDante>	Darn
nov. 27 02:00:07 <DiscipleOfDante>	Eh oh well I can live without
nov. 27 02:00:07 <DiscipleOfDante>	How do I undo the LunaTheme?
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nov. 27 02:10:27 <informatics-pol>	Holla
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nov. 27 03:28:05 <DiscipleOfDante>	Is it possible to uninstall something I installed with Winetricks?
nov. 27 03:29:04 <DiscipleOfDante>	Nevermind I fixed
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nov. 27 05:01:23 <reactormonk>	how good can I copy/paste playonlinux drives?
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nov. 27 05:50:29 <flock-pol>	hi
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nov. 27 05:53:17 <markez-pol>	someone knowa the best app for crack wifi under android ?
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nov. 27 08:12:34 <lagingenieria091>	LO?
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nov. 27 08:14:40 <Nastienka>	Hello
nov. 27 08:14:56 <Nastienka>	I can`t run roller coaster for pc on my mac
nov. 27 08:15:12 <Nastienka>	and i dont know what to do
nov. 27 08:15:14 <Nastienka>	:(
nov. 27 08:15:36 <Nastienka>	somebody can help me?
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nov. 27 08:18:04 <Nastienka>	damn it
nov. 27 08:18:10 <Nastienka>	this is bullshit
nov. 27 08:18:17 <Nastienka>	...
nov. 27 08:19:55 <pango>	I'm not sure I can, I don't know the Macs
nov. 27 08:20:12 <pango>	but feel free to stay polite
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nov. 27 08:26:42 <mark-pol>	Hey i'm trying to install diablo 2 and when i get to the second disk it says it cant find the disk. Using playonlinux
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nov. 27 08:30:28 <mark-pol>	any help with that?
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nov. 27 08:34:23 <Nastienka>	:( im tired of mac i just hate it
nov. 27 08:34:30 <Nastienka>	sorry
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nov. 27 09:26:56 <igo-pol>	Мля здесь русские есть хоть?
nov. 27 09:26:56 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel igo-pol
nov. 27 09:27:57 <igo-pol>	Тяжжелый случай!!
nov. 27 09:27:57 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel igo-pol
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nov. 27 10:38:02 <neo-pol>	hello
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nov. 27 11:29:26 <omg-pol>	hello
nov. 27 11:29:56 <omg-pol>	camfrog app fail on play on linux
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nov. 27 12:38:51 <jh-pom>	any1 can give me advice on installing diablo 2 here?
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nov. 27 13:50:58 <ilju-pol>	Hi
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nov. 27 15:07:20 <lapinou-pom>	test
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nov. 27 15:56:48 <chowtc-pol>	??
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nov. 27 16:11:20 <usuario-Glo>	hola
nov. 27 16:11:20 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel usuario-Glo
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nov. 27 16:11:59 <lamejorde>	hola
nov. 27 16:11:59 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel lamejorde
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nov. 27 16:58:50 <Dougie187>	Good morning everyone
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nov. 27 17:23:09 <g-pol>	hello
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nov. 27 18:19:40 <casa1-pol>	alguem me ajuda
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nov. 27 18:25:55 <saidsaidali-pom>	Hello i have a probleme with a software i installed in my pc. I cannot use it at all.
nov. 27 18:26:15 <saidsaidali-pom>	Do you have an idea of how i can solve this issue ?
nov. 27 18:26:21 <saidsaidali-pom>	Tanks
nov. 27 18:26:24 <saidsaidali-pom>	thanks
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nov. 27 18:37:56 <Dougie187>	Does the arguments option in configure allow me to add flags to the end of a command? For example, if I put -no-dwrite in that line and if it would run steam.exe would the executed command now be "wine steam.exe -no-dwrite" ?
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nov. 27 18:42:19 <pango>	Dougie187: yup
nov. 27 18:46:07 <Dougie187>	cool. :D
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nov. 27 18:50:08 <sam-pol>	hi: I am having trouble getting a steam game to work within PoL - Steam
nov. 27 18:50:20 <sam-pol>	I get the following error: 1127/114806:ERROR:proxy_resolver_winhttp.cc(97)] WinHttpGetProxyForUrl failed: 12178
nov. 27 18:52:45 <zoktar>	is it hard to format a patched wine version to work with pol?
nov. 27 18:53:14 <Dougie187>	zoktar: you could just say use the system wine
nov. 27 18:53:23 <Dougie187>	if the patched one is system wide
nov. 27 18:54:08 <pango>	zoktar: you just have to use configure ... --prefix=$HOME/.PlayOnLinux/wine/linux-{x86,amd64}/<wine version>-<patch name>
nov. 27 18:54:26 <pango>	zoktar: other than that, compile Wine as usual
nov. 27 18:54:28 <zoktar>	ok thanks
nov. 27 18:54:39 <sam-pol>	Thanks, I figured out I needed to enable javascript and install IE8
nov. 27 18:55:04 <pango>	zoktar: then make install, and the new version should be available in POL
nov. 27 18:56:57 <Dougie187>	pango: does the system method not work?
nov. 27 18:57:30 <Dougie187>	Oh, nm got it
nov. 27 18:57:34 <pango>	Dougie187: could be a way, but then you'll overwrite system Wine, and can have only one "patched" version at once
nov. 27 18:57:40 <Dougie187>	you're just telling it to install the patched wine into a special place.
nov. 27 18:57:59 <Dougie187>	for some reason I thought the --prefix was for the PoL side, rather than the wine side. :P
nov. 27 18:58:17 <pango>	yup, that's Wine's configure
nov. 27 18:58:24 <Dougie187>	yeah, got it.
nov. 27 18:58:41 <pango>	and ~/.PlayOnLinux/wine/ is where downloaded Wine versions go
nov. 27 18:58:46 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 27 19:04:39 <sam-pol>	should i install my video driver into the steam virtual manager?
nov. 27 19:04:54 <pango>	what video driver?
nov. 27 19:05:09 <sam-pol>	like download my drivers for windows and install it using PoL into my steam virtual drive.
nov. 27 19:05:20 <Dougie187>	no
nov. 27 19:05:43 <sam-pol>	I have an Ati Radeon 5770
nov. 27 19:05:43 <pango>	Wine does not implement low level Windows, only applications facing API
nov. 27 19:05:56 <pango>	forget about Windows drivers
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nov. 27 19:06:23 <sam-pol>	Everytime I try launching a game is says my video driver is unsupported, when I know it is.
nov. 27 19:06:40 <Dougie187>	I've had luck trying different wine versions for that issue.
nov. 27 19:06:44 <Dougie187>	What game are you having the problem with>
nov. 27 19:06:48 <Dougie187>	?
nov. 27 19:07:09 <sam-pol>	it does launch, but then it does some weird stuff
nov. 27 19:07:09 <sam-pol>	Steam - star trek online.
nov. 27 19:07:29 <pango>	there's a package called VideoDriver, that creates entries in the registry based on your videocard PCI IDs
nov. 27 19:07:31 <sam-pol>	it launches then says either use minimal setting or default, then it changes my resolution
nov. 27 19:07:33 <pango>	sometimes it helps
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nov. 27 19:09:23 <sam-pol>	yeah, thats what I thought, but then i goto steam system information, and it says my video driver is not detected
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nov. 27 19:11:43 <sam-pol>	will installing a driver really be that bad to test?
nov. 27 19:11:54 <pango>	it will simply not work
nov. 27 19:12:21 <pango>	don't know how bad it'll break, but it just cannot work
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nov. 27 19:12:43 <sam-pol>	hmm
nov. 27 19:13:12 <Dougie187>	Did you install that VideoDriver package?
nov. 27 19:13:16 <Dougie187>	in PoL?
nov. 27 19:13:26 <sam-pol>	can i use a different version of wine by the general config
nov. 27 19:13:26 <sam-pol>	without having to reinstall it using a different wine?
nov. 27 19:14:08 <Dougie187>	you can select the version of wine you want to use within PoL without having to uninstall any previous verions of wine.
nov. 27 19:14:22 <sam-pol>	ok, bout to test it now
nov. 27 19:14:44 <Dougie187>	You might try pango's suggestion on the VideoDriver package first.
nov. 27 19:14:49 <Dougie187>	if you haven't already.
nov. 27 19:14:49 <sam-pol>	i did
nov. 27 19:15:03 <sam-pol>	AHA
nov. 27 19:15:31 <sam-pol>	somewhere along the way either updating the wine version steam uses or the videodriver package, it is now detecting my driver
nov. 27 19:15:45 <Dougie187>	cool
nov. 27 19:15:52 <sam-pol>	now i have to wait for STO to finish updating
nov. 27 19:16:08 <sam-pol>	thanks again guys
nov. 27 19:16:47 <Dougie187>	nice
nov. 27 19:16:49 <Dougie187>	have fun!
nov. 27 19:18:56 <pango>	cool
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nov. 27 21:38:31 <bernard-pol>	Hi
nov. 27 21:38:36 <ptinou>	hi
nov. 27 21:38:56 <bernard-pol>	There is a differnce with game working when i am using 64 bit version of ubuntu than in 32bit?
nov. 27 21:39:20 <ptinou>	use a 64 bits version if you can
nov. 27 21:39:24 <ptinou>	always
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nov. 27 22:05:34 <bernard-pol>	but games?
nov. 27 22:05:43 <bernard-pol>	or system?
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nov. 27 22:56:55 <fenixp>	Guys?
nov. 27 22:56:58 <fenixp>	Anyone here?
nov. 27 22:57:45 <ptinou>	yes
nov. 27 23:01:07 <fenixp>	I wanted to ask a question about crashing Far Cry 2, but then I relized I'll have to do debug run, and then I reliazed that screws up my desktop composition
nov. 27 23:01:13 <fenixp>	because ... hey, why not
nov. 27 23:01:34 <fenixp>	Oh I know, I'll do a virtual desktop, that'll show him
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nov. 27 23:02:28 <fenixp>	Oh... Emulating Steam on Virtual desktop = losing workspace
nov. 27 23:03:48 <fenixp>	Aha!
nov. 27 23:03:50 <fenixp>	wine: Call from 0x7b83b9f2 to unimplemented function msvcp80.dll.??0?$basic_ostringstream@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$allocator@D@2@@std@@QAE@H@Z, aborting
nov. 27 23:03:56 <ptinou>	install vcrun2998
nov. 27 23:03:58 <ptinou>	2008 *
nov. 27 23:05:06 <fenixp>	Do I force installation if it seems like it's already installed?
nov. 27 23:05:26 <fenixp>	meh, did it anyway
nov. 27 23:05:48 <ptinou>	yes
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nov. 27 23:06:09 <arieyuffa-pom>	hello there
nov. 27 23:06:10 <fenixp>	ptinou: It still gives me the same error
nov. 27 23:06:15 <fenixp>	arieyuffa-pom: Hey
nov. 27 23:06:26 <ptinou>	hello arieyuffa-pom
nov. 27 23:06:27 <arieyuffa-pom>	im new around here, trying to run syberia 2 for the first time
nov. 27 23:06:30 <ptinou>	fenixp:  then try other vcruns
nov. 27 23:06:39 <fenixp>	M'key
nov. 27 23:06:57 <Nek>	Hello ptinou
nov. 27 23:07:03 <arieyuffa-pom>	managed to install it and everything but when i open the app it just crashes
nov. 27 23:07:12 <ptinou>	hello Nek
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nov. 27 23:07:45 <Nek>	ptinou, alors Symfony, t'as kiffé ?
nov. 27 23:07:57 <ptinou>	j'ai pas fait la mission finalement
nov. 27 23:08:06 <ptinou>	mais en général ça me soule cette façon de s'y prendre
nov. 27 23:08:26 <ptinou>	cette mode "on tape sur php" c'est vraiment lourd
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nov. 27 23:09:23 <fenixp>	ptinou: Ok, neither 2010 nor 2005 worked
nov. 27 23:09:29 <bernard-pol>	Hi guys
nov. 27 23:09:33 <ptinou>	fenixp: no idea then
nov. 27 23:09:39 <fenixp>	And ... I'm not even trying 6. I mean, FC2's from what, 2008?
nov. 27 23:09:55 <fenixp>	I'll ask on the boards then. Thanks!
nov. 27 23:09:56 <bernard-pol>	INSTALL WINDOWS 8
nov. 27 23:09:57 <bernard-pol>	man
nov. 27 23:09:59 <bernard-pol>	xD
nov. 27 23:10:09 <bernard-pol>	and u will solve u r problem
nov. 27 23:10:11 <ptinou>	bernard-pol: next time I ban you
nov. 27 23:10:12 <ptinou>	ok ?
nov. 27 23:10:22 <bernard-pol>	for?
nov. 27 23:10:36 <ptinou>	just because I'm fed up with you and your trolls since yesterday
nov. 27 23:10:45 <bernard-pol>	oh noo
nov. 27 23:10:57 <bernard-pol>	what trolls i was did? tell me
nov. 27 23:11:06 <bernard-pol>	just asking about games?
nov. 27 23:11:07 <ptinou>	"INSTALL WINDOWS 8"
nov. 27 23:11:17 <bernard-pol>	ok sry for it it was only joke
nov. 27 23:11:29 <bernard-pol>	coz i get tired of trying to play games on linux
nov. 27 23:11:47 <fenixp>	Well... To be fair it is a solution. Kind of.
nov. 27 23:11:52 <bernard-pol>	and imo its not necessary
nov. 27 23:11:59 <ptinou>	And I get tired about people always complaining because it does not work directly
nov. 27 23:12:01 <bernard-pol>	ok than sorry
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nov. 27 23:12:10 <bernard-pol>	dont be angry for me
nov. 27 23:12:11 <ptinou>	we are just bending for you people, working for free
nov. 27 23:12:14 <ptinou>	don't forget that
nov. 27 23:12:26 <bernard-pol>	ok ok well i must thank u for it:)
nov. 27 23:12:46 <fenixp>	... and helping on IRC. I mean seriously ptinou, you're awesome.
nov. 27 23:13:08 <ptinou>	fenixp: sorry but I don't have any solution for your problem yet
nov. 27 23:13:14 <ptinou>	it's just impossible to test every game
nov. 27 23:13:29 <fenixp>	I wasn't ironic, you are awesome
nov. 27 23:13:45 <bernard-pol>	so, tell me , have I something to change on playonlinux when i am trying to play counter strike 1.6?
nov. 27 23:13:51 <bernard-pol>	or steam nvm
nov. 27 23:13:52 <ptinou>	fenixp:  thank you.
nov. 27 23:14:34 <bernard-pol>	my card has 256 mb memory
nov. 27 23:14:42 <fenixp>	I really know how it is, I'm a developer myself and I wouldn't even dream of doing something as complex as playonlinux. Yeah, it's a group effort, but damn. So yeah, I can appreciate the work that goes into it.
nov. 27 23:14:56 <ptinou>	playonlinux is not complex at all
nov. 27 23:14:57 <ptinou>	wine is
nov. 27 23:15:10 <fenixp>	bernard-pol: Just a guess, have you tried installing it using Half-life script?
nov. 27 23:15:18 <fenixp>	Half-life 1, I mean
nov. 27 23:15:28 <bernard-pol>	nope
nov. 27 23:15:35 <bernard-pol>	only play Install in play onlinux
nov. 27 23:15:41 <bernard-pol>	and thats all
nov. 27 23:15:52 <bernard-pol>	i have steam installed already
nov. 27 23:16:04 <bernard-pol>	but the game cs1.6 doesnt work correctly
nov. 27 23:16:05 <fenixp>	Oh, another one, did you get into the main menu?
nov. 27 23:16:11 <fenixp>	of CS1.6?
nov. 27 23:16:12 <bernard-pol>	yes i get
nov. 27 23:16:15 <bernard-pol>	yes
nov. 27 23:16:32 <fenixp>	Ok, this should be simple. Under options, there should be a setting to choose OpenGL renderer
nov. 27 23:16:42 <fenixp>	that should just solve whatever issues you're having right there
nov. 27 23:16:49 <fenixp>	but I can't tell you precisely where it is
nov. 27 23:16:57 <bernard-pol>	u mean in playonlinux programm?
nov. 27 23:17:08 <fenixp>	No, in counter-strike 1.6 main menu
nov. 27 23:17:13 <bernard-pol>	ah ok
nov. 27 23:17:31 <bernard-pol>	ok i know waht u mean right now :)
nov. 27 23:17:37 <bernard-pol>	i will try it
nov. 27 23:18:07 <bernard-pol>	hmm.. another problem is that, i was told about it yesterday. So, I run LoL but i have only 10fps in game
nov. 27 23:18:21 <bernard-pol>	and its impossible to play
nov. 27 23:18:42 <fenixp>	There seems to be a lot of issues with LoL :-/
nov. 27 23:18:55 <bernard-pol>	ok i read many threads
nov. 27 23:19:02 <bernard-pol>	so, i must agree with u
nov. 27 23:19:25 <bernard-pol>	We have to wait for final relase:p?
nov. 27 23:19:52 <fenixp>	Well.. The best you can hope for is that it'll get resolved in time I suppose. I'm kind of saying goodbye to my Far Cry 2 right now as well
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nov. 27 23:20:23 <bernard-pol>	i told u u can use 2 systems
nov. 27 23:20:31 <fenixp>	I do have win7 installed
nov. 27 23:20:43 <bernard-pol>	i will install my win8
nov. 27 23:20:48 <bernard-pol>	and try it too :D
nov. 27 23:21:08 <fenixp>	but you know, I love Linux, especially this installation. And it's annoying to have to reboot just because you want to play a game for a few minutes.
nov. 27 23:21:24 <bernard-pol>	what linux u have?
nov. 27 23:21:39 <bernard-pol>	u are right
nov. 27 23:21:42 <fenixp>	Linux Mint 14 Cinnamon
nov. 27 23:21:53 <bernard-pol>	nice i am on ubuntu 12.04
nov. 27 23:22:02 <fenixp>	I consider it a small miracle that I got Skyrim working with all my favourite mods
nov. 27 23:22:32 <bernard-pol>	i dont know really which linux is the best because i used only ubuntu
nov. 27 23:22:55 <fenixp>	You know, if you make another partition, you can have more than one Linux install
nov. 27 23:22:56 <bernard-pol>	i am finding it like a fun for now :D
nov. 27 23:23:20 <fenixp>	so you can have Ubuntu for work and install more various Linux distributions alongside that to experiment
nov. 27 23:23:20 <bernard-pol>	i know that but its to difficult for me roght now
nov. 27 23:23:29 <Nek>	ptinou, ouais enfin t'as un avis très arrêté sur la chose quand même :p pas très objectif.
nov. 27 23:23:36 <Nek>	Enfin peu importe chacun son avis
nov. 27 23:23:38 <bernard-pol>	english only
nov. 27 23:23:41 <ptinou>	pourquoi pas objectif ?
nov. 27 23:23:45 <bernard-pol>	;d
nov. 27 23:23:51 <Nek>	parce que tu n'as pas testé les deux :)
nov. 27 23:23:53 <ptinou>	bernard-pol:  I do what I want
nov. 27 23:23:54 <ptinou>	Nek:  si
nov. 27 23:24:06 <bernard-pol>	some1 told me yesterday to use only eng?
nov. 27 23:24:09 <fenixp>	bernard-pol: Anyway, is Counter Strike fixed now?
nov. 27 23:24:10 <Nek>	bernard-pol, nop, i can speak french , it's in the topic ^^
nov. 27 23:24:24 <Nek>	ptinou, Symfony2 ? Tu l'as vraiment testé ? Genre fait un site avec ?
nov. 27 23:24:27 <ptinou>	et je maintiens, symfony c'est une usine a gaz et c'est pas du tout adapté pas mal de truc
nov. 27 23:24:30 <bernard-pol>	wait i will try it now:)
nov. 27 23:24:33 <ptinou>	ben j'ai commencé un projet
nov. 27 23:24:33 <Nek>	(ne serais-ce qu'un blog)
nov. 27 23:24:43 <ptinou>	Nek:  mais rien que l'installation de symfony
nov. 27 23:24:46 <fenixp>	Ok, you go and do that. I'm curious myself, you just made me want to play it :D
nov. 27 23:24:50 <ptinou>	ça me prend plus de temps que faire un mini site dans certains caas
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nov. 27 23:24:59 <fenixp>	Are you guys talking about insallation of Symphony?
nov. 27 23:25:00 <bernard-pol>	counter ?
nov. 27 23:25:02 <Nek>	ptinou, l'installation ? wait. composer install symfony ?
nov. 27 23:25:06 <fenixp>	Yah, counter-strike
nov. 27 23:25:07 <l403>	Hello.
nov. 27 23:25:10 <ptinou>	nek nan
nov. 27 23:25:11 <bernard-pol>	are u on steam?
nov. 27 23:25:29 <ptinou>	quand je dis installation, je veux dire installation, mise en place, création du projet
nov. 27 23:25:31 <Nek>	ptinou, pour les ptits sites il y a silex
nov. 27 23:25:37 <ptinou>	oui ou alors
nov. 27 23:25:38 <fenixp>	bernard-pol: Yeah, but for one I only have Source and besides, I only play against bots. I'm weird that way.
nov. 27 23:25:45 <ptinou>	tu fais ton html ton css, include haut, include bas
nov. 27 23:25:49 <bernard-pol>	ohh bots... ;d
nov. 27 23:25:52 <bernard-pol>	easy
nov. 27 23:25:56 <ptinou>	c'est beau de vouloir  faire des couches d'abstraction dans tout les sens
nov. 27 23:26:01 <ptinou>	mais parfois c'est vraiment pas utile
nov. 27 23:26:03 <fenixp>	I know, they suck. But so do I, so we work together
nov. 27 23:26:54 <ptinou>	et puis php c'est vraiment pas fait pour être frameworkisé
nov. 27 23:26:58 <ptinou>	c'est un langage dégueu de toute façon
nov. 27 23:27:10 <ptinou>	de base c'est pas maintenable
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nov. 27 23:29:12 <Nek>	ptinou, c'est parce que tu ne connais pas PHP en fait que tu dis ça
nov. 27 23:29:17 <ptinou>	non
nov. 27 23:29:22 <ptinou>	php c'est un langage dégueu
nov. 27 23:29:26 <Nek>	Parce que les nouvelles fonctionnalités de PHP en font tout autre chose.
nov. 27 23:29:40 <ptinou>	nan mais php c'est crade
nov. 27 23:29:44 <ptinou>	tu peux pas dire le contraire
nov. 27 23:29:50 <Nek>	Désolé
nov. 27 23:29:50 <ptinou>	après on peut quand même en faire des choses
nov. 27 23:29:52 <Nek>	Sf c'est propre
nov. 27 23:29:53 <ptinou>	mais ça reste crade
nov. 27 23:30:08 <ptinou>	Sf
nov. 27 23:30:15 <ptinou>	je comparerais ça a une maison hyper solide
nov. 27 23:30:21 <ptinou>	fabriquée sur des marécages
nov. 27 23:30:52 <Nek>	Ma foi
nov. 27 23:30:59 <ptinou>	et perso je trouve que l'interêt de php c'est d'être assez souple pour pouvoir se passer de framework
nov. 27 23:31:05 <ptinou>	si tu veux utiliser un framework
nov. 27 23:31:08 <Nek>	Tu abuses clairement
nov. 27 23:31:08 <ptinou>	t'as ruby on rail ou django
nov. 27 23:31:28 <Nek>	Dans la communauté Sf, bien souvent les devs ne viennent pas de PHP "ancien"
nov. 27 23:31:37 <Nek>	Parce que justement, il y a un clash de génération
nov. 27 23:31:49 <l403>	When PLayonlinux fetches list of supported applications, not the whole list is shown or fetched or shown. It lists only up to around the letter G. "UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xa0' in position 71: ordinal not in range"
nov. 27 23:31:50 <Nek>	c'est clair et net, il suffit de voir le projet cake php qui a éclaté
nov. 27 23:31:54 <Nek>	Enfin bref
nov. 27 23:32:03 <Nek>	On va pas refaire ce débat, on est pas d'accord
nov. 27 23:32:04 <ptinou>	l403: update your POL list
nov. 27 23:32:13 <ptinou>	Nek:  essais d'autres framework dans d'autres langage
nov. 27 23:32:19 <Nek>	déjà fait
nov. 27 23:32:21 <ptinou>	mais php c'est pas propre
nov. 27 23:32:23 <Nek>	j'suis dev RoR
nov. 27 23:32:24 <ptinou>	tu peux pas dire le contraire
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nov. 27 23:32:31 <Nek>	et je déteste ça
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nov. 27 23:33:02 <Doug21>	OIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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nov. 27 23:33:35 <ptinou>	Nek:  je peux te filer des exemple
nov. 27 23:33:39 <ptinou>	php le == est pas transitif
nov. 27 23:33:46 <l403>	ptinou, trough the GUI or is it done via a command
nov. 27 23:33:48 <Nek>	suffit de savoir l'utiliser
nov. 27 23:33:54 <ptinou>	l403: command line
nov. 27 23:33:55 <Nek>	en JS le problème est similaire
nov. 27 23:34:01 <ptinou>	j'ai jamais dis que le JS c'était propre
nov. 27 23:34:01 <Nek>	et pourtant personne ne dit rien ?
nov. 27 23:34:12 <ptinou>	parce que t'as que le JS pour faire ce que fait le JS
nov. 27 23:34:22 <ptinou>	attention je dis pas qu'il faut pas utiliser php
nov. 27 23:34:25 <ptinou>	je dis que php c'est dégueu
nov. 27 23:34:29 <ptinou>	enfinc'est pas dégueu
nov. 27 23:34:32 <Nek>	Parce que tu l'utilises mal
nov. 27 23:34:35 <ptinou>	c'est pas rigoureux
nov. 27 23:34:36 <fenixp>	yaaay! Far Cry 2 works!
nov. 27 23:34:38 <ptinou>	non
nov. 27 23:34:38 <Nek>	et c'est parce que des gens comme toi l'utilisent mal
nov. 27 23:34:40 <ptinou>	le langage a un problème
nov. 27 23:34:47 <bernard-pol>	great
nov. 27 23:34:48 <Nek>	que Zend veut pas casser la compatiblité
nov. 27 23:34:53 <Nek>	et c'est ce qui nique le langage !
nov. 27 23:34:55 <bernard-pol>	:)
nov. 27 23:34:57 <Nek>	VOILA
nov. 27 23:34:59 <ptinou>	Nek:  c'est pas parce que tu utilise pas symfony que tu utilise mal php
nov. 27 23:35:07 <bernard-pol>	i am downloading my counterstrike
nov. 27 23:35:17 <Nek>	non, mais les include haut/bas c'est une mauvaise pratique
nov. 27 23:35:23 <ptinou>	Nek:  tu affirme ce que je dis
nov. 27 23:35:30 <ptinou>	Nek:  non ce n'est pas une mauvaise pratique
nov. 27 23:35:35 <ptinou>	c'est juste ridicule de faire un template quand t'as 5 pags
nov. 27 23:35:39 <fenixp>	ptinou: I think I've got a slightly broken installer to report. Installing FC2 via the Steam script doesn't work, but when I force GOG virtual drive and put my Steam installation there, it works great.
nov. 27 23:35:48 <ptinou>	ok
nov. 27 23:35:55 <ptinou>	good to know
nov. 27 23:36:26 <fenixp>	I'm communicating everything to you here, if it'd be better for me and do so on discussion boards, I'll shut up in the future and post there
nov. 27 23:36:39 <ptinou>	fenixp:  you'd better post a detailed bug report
nov. 27 23:36:42 <Nek>	Faire un template c'est aussi rapide que réécrire les haut/bas partout dans la page
nov. 27 23:36:47 <bernard-pol>	tell me do I have something to change in playonlinux configuration ?
nov. 27 23:36:49 <Nek>	*dans toutes les pages
nov. 27 23:36:53 <fenixp>	Ok, off to the forums
nov. 27 23:36:56 <ptinou>	Nek: non
nov. 27 23:37:01 <ptinou>	un template tu dois faire un interpréteur de template
nov. 27 23:37:03 <l403>	ptinou, can you help me out. I have no man entry, -h or --help doesnt help
nov. 27 23:37:08 <ptinou>	si tu veux faire ça proprement
nov. 27 23:37:12 <ptinou>	l403: use the GUI
nov. 27 23:37:16 <ptinou>	Install -> refresh
nov. 27 23:37:28 <Nek>	ptinou, alors je t'informe qu'à la base PHP c'est un moteur de template
nov. 27 23:37:46 <ptinou>	je sais
nov. 27 23:37:51 <Nek>	maintenant, utiliser twig implique de ne pas créer son moteur de template, et donc on en arrive au même stade: c'est aussi rapide, mais plus propre
nov. 27 23:38:00 <ptinou>	ok bon
nov. 27 23:38:05 <ptinou>	tu veux troller sur php
nov. 27 23:38:06 <ptinou>	on va troller sur phpo
nov. 27 23:38:15 <Nek>	S'toi qui troll
nov. 27 23:38:18 <Nek>	moi je dis rien
nov. 27 23:38:22 <Nek>	je dément juste ce que tu dis
nov. 27 23:38:23 <Nek>	:D
nov. 27 23:38:24 <ptinou>	1 - PHP ne respecte aucune convention
nov. 27 23:38:26 <ptinou>	a titre d'exemple
nov. 27 23:38:33 <Nek>	psr-0 psr-1 psr-2
nov. 27 23:38:42 <ptinou>	les fonctions ne sont jamais dans le même ordre
nov. 27 23:38:52 <Nek>	psr-x aussi
nov. 27 23:38:53 <ptinou>	je retrouve chaque exemple pour que tu me croit
nov. 27 23:38:55 <ptinou>	ça prend un peu de temps
nov. 27 23:39:24 <ptinou>	bon on va commencer par les comparaisons
nov. 27 23:39:30 <ptinou>	"test" == true
nov. 27 23:39:37 <ptinou>	"test" == 0
nov. 27 23:39:41 <ptinou>	mais bien sur, true != 0
nov. 27 23:39:42 <ptinou>	logique
nov. 27 23:39:58 <ptinou>	"6" = " 6"
nov. 27 23:40:01 <ptinou>	normal aussi
nov. 27 23:40:07 <l403>	ptinou, refreshed. last entry in category games is GOG.com - Advent Rising.
nov. 27 23:40:12 <ptinou>	"133" = "0133" normal ...
nov. 27 23:40:20 <ptinou>	tiens 133 != 0133 par contre
nov. 27 23:40:22 <Nek>	ptinou, malheureusement, oui, normal, c'est l'histoire de PHP qui veut ça.
nov. 27 23:40:23 <l403>	is it supposed to be last?
nov. 27 23:40:32 <ptinou>	ah, mais "1e3" == "1000"
nov. 27 23:40:33 <Nek>	Comme je te l'ai dit, c'est un moteur de template
nov. 27 23:40:35 <ptinou>	what the fuck quoi
nov. 27 23:40:44 <Nek>	Et ces réactions étaient tout à fait normal
nov. 27 23:40:57 <Nek>	le "===" est là pour combler ton trou
nov. 27 23:41:02 <ptinou>	super le bricolage
nov. 27 23:41:12 <ptinou>	et tu fais comment avec >= pour imposer le type ?
nov. 27 23:41:14 <ptinou>	impossible
nov. 27 23:41:27 <ptinou>	passons au nom des fonctions
nov. 27 23:41:30 <ptinou>	parfois c'est strpos
nov. 27 23:41:37 <ptinou>	parfois c'est str_rot13
nov. 27 23:41:42 <ptinou>	php_uname, phpversion
nov. 27 23:41:50 <ptinou>	base64_encode, urlencode
nov. 27 23:41:52 <ptinou>	aucune cohérence
nov. 27 23:41:59 <ptinou>	pire
nov. 27 23:42:04 <ptinou>	htmlentities vs html_entities_decode
nov. 27 23:42:15 <ptinou>	pour te connecter a une base mysql, t'as trois fonctions différentes
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nov. 27 23:42:23 <Nek>	ouais, il est vrai que les noms de fonctions ne sont pas judicieux
nov. 27 23:42:32 <Nek>	mais la doc de php est plutôt bien faite, facile de s'y retrouver
nov. 27 23:42:34 <ptinou>	parfois quand tu compare des nombres énormes
nov. 27 23:42:41 <ptinou>	t'as deux nombres identiques qui sont pas égaux
nov. 27 23:42:53 <ptinou>	ah oui sur les tableaux
nov. 27 23:43:00 <ptinou>	t'as certaines fonctions qui trient directement le tableau en argument
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nov. 27 23:43:06 <ptinou>	d'autres qui renvoient un tableau modifié
nov. 27 23:43:12 <Nek>	ouais
nov. 27 23:43:14 <ptinou>	NULL++ c'est égal à 1
nov. 27 23:43:19 <ptinou>	NULL— c'est égal à NULL
nov. 27 23:43:27 <ptinou>	ah ouai, ne parlons pas du @
nov. 27 23:43:51 <ptinou>	enfin bon y'a une tonne de chose a dire sur php
nov. 27 23:44:00 <Nek>	C'est pas spécialement un problème de PHP
nov. 27 23:44:07 <Nek>	c'est un problème du web globalement
nov. 27 23:44:11 <ptinou>	ben non
nov. 27 23:44:13 <Nek>	t'as les mêmes probs en JS
nov. 27 23:44:16 <ptinou>	tu utilise python t'aura spas de pb
nov. 27 23:44:17 <Nek>	les même avec le html
nov. 27 23:44:19 <ptinou>	et pas a ce point la en JS
nov. 27 23:44:22 <Nek>	c'est l'évolution bordélique
nov. 27 23:44:23 <ptinou>	et en html t'as pas de fonctions
nov. 27 23:44:35 <Nek>	wtfjs est sorti avant wtfphp
nov. 27 23:44:39 <ptinou>	j'aime bien aussi le file_get_contents("http://")
nov. 27 23:44:59 <ptinou>	et franchement, je mantiens
nov. 27 23:45:12 <ptinou>	le langage t'incite à faire des trucs comme include("haut.php")
nov. 27 23:45:30 <Nek>	c'est pas pour ça qu'il faut le faire
nov. 27 23:45:37 <ptinou>	parce que tu tire aucuns interêt à essyaer de concevoir des trucs propremens avec des exceptions et des bveaux template
nov. 27 23:45:45 <ptinou>	la preuve, le site web du rezo de supelec
nov. 27 23:45:50 <ptinou>	le mec a essayé de faire ça proprement
nov. 27 23:45:54 <ptinou>	ben c'est tout simplement pas maintenable
nov. 27 23:46:07 <Nek>	Donc les mecs qui ont fait Sf
nov. 27 23:46:10 <Nek>	c'est des gros loser
nov. 27 23:46:15 <ptinou>	j'ai jamais dis ça
nov. 27 23:46:17 <Nek>	et leurs sites ne sont pas maintenables
nov. 27 23:46:23 <Nek>	parce que c'est du php
nov. 27 23:46:24 <Nek>	toussa
nov. 27 23:46:26 <ptinou>	non
nov. 27 23:46:32 <ptinou>	je dis juste qu'ils sont courageux.
nov. 27 23:47:03 <l403>	ptinou, where is the POL list saved so I can check its complete?
nov. 27 23:47:03 <Nek>	C'est marrant parce que deux langages qui montent sont PHP et JS (nodejs)
nov. 27 23:47:10 <ptinou>	l403: configurations folder
nov. 27 23:47:10 <Nek>	pourtant, c'est les plus baisés selon toi
nov. 27 23:47:15 <Nek>	C'est ptet pas si baisé que ça
nov. 27 23:47:16 <ptinou>	Nek:  ils montent pas
nov. 27 23:47:18 <Nek>	à méditer
nov. 27 23:47:23 <Nek>	oh que si
nov. 27 23:47:24 <ptinou>	Nek: c'est marrant, l'OS le plus utilisé c'est windows
nov. 27 23:47:35 <Nek>	windows c'est pas si mal
nov. 27 23:47:44 <Nek>	T'es un gros troll, that's all.
nov. 27 23:47:44 <ptinou>	ben c'est ultra mal pensé quand même.
nov. 27 23:47:47 <ptinou>	non
nov. 27 23:47:49 <ptinou>	c'est pas du troll
nov. 27 23:47:51 <ptinou>	c'est mal pensé je suis désolé
nov. 27 23:48:05 <ptinou>	c'est pas normal qu'à cause d'un problème de conception de l'OS, tu puisse pas créer un dossier qui s'appelle "con"
nov. 27 23:48:14 <ptinou>	je dis pas qu'il faut pas l'utiliser ou quoi que ce soit
nov. 27 23:48:22 <ptinou>	je dis juste que c'est moins bien sur le plan théorique à la base
nov. 27 23:48:26 <Nek>	ouais ya des trucs spéciaux
nov. 27 23:48:37 <ptinou>	ben le problème du dossier con
nov. 27 23:48:42 <Nek>	Après moi j'utilise que linux
nov. 27 23:48:48 <Nek>	j'suis ptet pas le mieux placé pour parler
nov. 27 23:48:50 <ptinou>	c'est révélateur d'un bon problème de conception
nov. 27 23:48:55 <ptinou>	l'absence de l'équivalent du /dev sous linux
nov. 27 23:49:03 <ptinou>	d'un endroit séparé pour mettre les périphériques
nov. 27 23:49:20 <ptinou>	pareil, tu peux pas créer de fichier / dossier lpt1 car c'est reservé pour le port parallèle
nov. 27 23:49:22 <ptinou>	mais wtf
nov. 27 23:49:40 <Nek>	mais apparemment ils ont une équipe qui est en train de recoder windows de A à Z
nov. 27 23:49:46 <ptinou>	php c'est hyper utilisé parce que c'est rapide à apprendre en première approche et que tout les hébergeurs le gèrent
nov. 27 23:50:15 <ptinou>	et que je me vois pas demander à des mecs qui ont jamais fait de prog d'apprendre direct à utiliser un framework avec un MVC
nov. 27 23:50:18 <Nek>	au niveau d'utilisation de gros frameworks comme Sf
nov. 27 23:50:28 <Nek>	C'est pas ces critères qui font que Sf est utilisé
nov. 27 23:50:31 <ptinou>	et que les autres langage te l'imposent
nov. 27 23:50:49 <Nek>	Va pas me dire que Sensio n'a pas ses serveurs pour héberger le clien
nov. 27 23:50:50 <Nek>	etc
nov. 27 23:50:58 <ptinou>	et alors
nov. 27 23:51:02 <ptinou>	facebook utilisent php
nov. 27 23:51:05 <ptinou>	mais ça veut pas dire que c'est bien
nov. 27 23:51:11 <ptinou>	enfin
nov. 27 23:51:14 <ptinou>	c'est pas le problème d'être bien ou mal
nov. 27 23:51:30 <ptinou>	moi même je me bats contre les gens qui disent qu'il faut que php disparaisse parce que je trouve ça débile de dire ça
nov. 27 23:51:41 <ptinou>	mais il faut au moins reconnaitre que sur le plan théorique, c'est un langage foirefux
nov. 27 23:51:43 <ptinou>	foireux *
nov. 27 23:52:02 <bernard-pol>	The cs1.6 working fine but its cutting me right side of the game
nov. 27 23:52:06 <bernard-pol>	about 2cm
nov. 27 23:52:26 <bernard-pol>	and its black about 2cm from the left
nov. 27 23:52:37 <ptinou>	Nek:  et aussi en php, aucun moyen de faire un serveur de dev
nov. 27 23:52:44 <ptinou>	enfin je crois que si depuis pas longtemps
nov. 27 23:53:06 <Nek>	J'dis pas que c'est le meilleur
nov. 27 23:53:18 <ptinou>	c'est pas une question d'être le meilleur ou pas
nov. 27 23:53:19 <Nek>	mais depuis PHP 5.3 ça bouge clairement dans le bon sens
nov. 27 23:53:28 <ptinou>	encore heureux que ça aille dans le bon sens
nov. 27 23:53:33 <Nek>	Après tout les mecs qui font bouger PHP actuellement c'est la communauté Sf
nov. 27 23:53:34 <ptinou>	t'as vu ce que c'était avec php 3 ?
nov. 27 23:53:49 <ptinou>	la variable _GET interpretée directement … merci
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nov. 27 23:53:54 <ptinou>	enfin les variables globales la
nov. 27 23:54:01 <Nek>	ouais
nov. 27 23:54:24 <ptinou>	non c'est un langage brico
nov. 27 23:54:29 <ptinou>	donc autant l'utiliser comme il est
nov. 27 23:54:34 <ptinou>	et autant en profiter pour être efficace
nov. 27 23:54:51 <Nek>	on a pas la même notion d'efficacité
nov. 27 23:54:56 <ptinou>	ben écoute
nov. 27 23:55:01 <ptinou>	je pense que sur le site de POL je code assez vite
nov. 27 23:55:15 <ptinou>	et si je devais faire un truc à une équipe avec plus de 3 personne
nov. 27 23:55:18 <ptinou>	et que je devais choisir
nov. 27 23:55:24 <ptinou>	je pense que je m'orienterais vers autre chose
nov. 27 23:55:56 <ptinou>	toi avec symofony tu veux faire un module de news
nov. 27 23:56:07 <Nek>	Ok jte la fait rapide
nov. 27 23:56:09 <ptinou>	ouai
nov. 27 23:56:10 <Nek>	Avant je codais comme toi
nov. 27 23:56:13 <Nek>	site à forte charge
nov. 27 23:56:16 <ptinou>	tu vas devoir faire un modèle, une vue, un controlleur
nov. 27 23:56:21 <Nek>	le serveur pète
nov. 27 23:56:24 <ptinou>	non
nov. 27 23:56:24 <Nek>	tu fais quoi ?
nov. 27 23:56:27 <Nek>	Bah tu pleures
nov. 27 23:56:31 <Nek>	faut tout que tu recodes
nov. 27 23:56:34 <Nek>	oui, ça m'est arrivé
nov. 27 23:56:35 <ptinou>	ben non
nov. 27 23:56:43 <ptinou>	ben écoute POL c'est un site a forte charge
nov. 27 23:56:47 <Nek>	alors j'ai commencé à faire mon propre framework
nov. 27 23:56:53 <Nek>	Sauf que c'est débile
nov. 27 23:56:56 <Nek>	de réinventer la roue
nov. 27 23:57:02 <Nek>	alors je suis parti sur sf1
nov. 27 23:57:06 <Nek>	sauf que c'était chiant
nov. 27 23:57:07 <ptinou>	si ton site a pêté c'est juste que t'avais fait ça salement
nov. 27 23:57:10 <Nek>	aussi chiant que RoR en fait
nov. 27 23:57:22 <Nek>	oui
nov. 27 23:57:27 <ptinou>	mais moi ça pête pas
nov. 27 23:57:28 <Nek>	bah include haut/bas j'appelle ça salement
nov. 27 23:57:30 <ptinou>	et j'utilise pas symofny
nov. 27 23:57:39 <ptinou>	ben c'est pas à cause de ça que ton serveur va pêter
nov. 27 23:57:40 <Nek>	oui fin, ya charge et charge
nov. 27 23:57:44 <ptinou>	même un site comme le sdz ils codent comme çia
nov. 27 23:57:46 <Nek>	c'est pas dailymotion ton site non plus
nov. 27 23:57:54 <ptinou>	parce que c'était daily toi ?
nov. 27 23:58:02 <Nek>	non
nov. 27 23:58:06 <ptinou>	ça te suffit pas 200Go en 17 heures ?
nov. 27 23:58:22 <Nek>	mais c'était du spam à 500 connections simultannées et beaucoup de calculs
nov. 27 23:58:34 <Nek>	(un jeu en ligne pour faire simple)
nov. 27 23:58:39 <ptinou>	j'ai 50 requetes par secondes
nov. 27 23:58:46 <ptinou>	et accès a la base a chaque fois
nov. 27 23:59:01 <ptinou>	et le serveur est même pas au quart de sa charge
nov. 27 23:59:07 <ptinou>	et il a que 2Go de ram
nov. 27 23:59:25 <Nek>	j'étais pas seul sur le serveur
nov. 27 23:59:29 <ptinou>	franchement je sais pas comment tu as fait pour faire planter un serveur avec du traffic, mais tu devais en avoir au moins 10 fois plus que moi
nov. 27 23:59:30 <Nek>	probablement un petit serveur
nov. 27 23:59:34 <ptinou>	moi non plus je suis pas le seul
nov. 27 23:59:45 <Nek>	et surtout, c'était probablement "très" mal codé
nov. 27 23:59:58 <ptinou>	oui donc rien à voir avec le fait de pas utiliser de framework ou de faire des include
nov. 28 00:00:02 <Nek>	(enfin pas probablement, c'est un fait)
nov. 28 00:00:05 <Nek>	mais voilà
nov. 28 00:00:10 <Nek>	c'était pas maintenable
nov. 28 00:00:11 <ptinou>	et au risque de me rêpeter, même le sdz font comme ça
nov. 28 00:00:14 <ptinou>	parce que c'est pratique
nov. 28 00:00:21 <Nek>	désolé de casser ton rêve
nov. 28 00:00:27 <Nek>	le sdz ne fait pas du tout comme ça
nov. 28 00:00:32 <ptinou>	ils faisaient *
nov. 28 00:00:40 <Nek>	à l'époque de la v2
nov. 28 00:00:40 <ptinou>	y'a deux ans c'était comme ça
nov. 28 00:00:41 <Nek>	ouais
nov. 28 00:00:44 <Nek>	non
nov. 28 00:00:46 <ptinou>	non de la v3
nov. 28 00:00:49 <Nek>	ils ont leur framework maison
nov. 28 00:01:09 <Nek>	J'connais l'ex lead dev
nov. 28 00:01:12 <Nek>	:)
nov. 28 00:01:14 <ptinou>	écoute y'avait écris dans le tuto même qu'ils faisaient comme ça
nov. 28 00:01:38 <Nek>	Soit c'est une extrapolation, soit c'est un ancien tuto
nov. 28 00:01:53 <Nek>	(parce qu'après tout, avec des templates c'est quand même des includes)
nov. 28 00:02:00 <Nek>	mais je mise plutôt sur le tuto très vieux
nov. 28 00:02:06 <Nek>	(j'ai lu la même chose, sur la v2)
nov. 28 00:02:10 <ptinou>	c'était la v3
nov. 28 00:02:20 <ptinou>	franchement
nov. 28 00:02:25 <Nek>	dans le tuto php même
nov. 28 00:02:28 <ptinou>	ça bouffe moins de ressource de pas faire des calculs sur un template
nov. 28 00:02:32 <ptinou>	oui dans le tuto php même
nov. 28 00:02:40 <Nek>	oeoeoe
nov. 28 00:02:49 <Nek>	Perso je met systématiquement un varnish devant Sf
nov. 28 00:02:56 <ptinou>	et puis faut pas tout mélanger
nov. 28 00:03:04 <ptinou>	oui ben c'est une usine à gaz
nov. 28 00:03:12 <ptinou>	je vois pas l'utilité d'installer un framework quand tu vas en exploiter 1%
nov. 28 00:03:38 <Nek>	j'exploite systématiquement tout
nov. 28 00:03:46 <Nek>	pas besoin de se casser les couilles à refaire la sécurité
nov. 28 00:03:48 <ptinou>	bien sur
nov. 28 00:03:54 <Nek>	pas besoin de se casser les couilles à faire un moteur de template
nov. 28 00:04:07 <ptinou>	t'as pas à te casser les couilles à faire un moteur de template
nov. 28 00:04:08 <Nek>	pas besoin de se casser les couilles avec la gestion de formulaires
nov. 28 00:04:12 <ptinou>	hum
nov. 28 00:04:17 <ptinou>	la gestion de formulaires avec symfony
nov. 28 00:04:19 <ptinou>	quelle horreur
nov. 28 00:04:24 <Nek>	pas besoin de se prendre la tête avec la base de données
nov. 28 00:04:27 <Nek>	toussa toussa
nov. 28 00:04:35 <Nek>	ptinou, tu connais RoR ? lolilol
nov. 28 00:04:37 <ptinou>	génial, comme ça tu sais même plus ce qu'il y a dans ta base
nov. 28 00:04:46 <Nek>	Parce que sérieux, dans RoR les forms me font vomir
nov. 28 00:04:50 <ptinou>	on parle de ruby ou de php ?
nov. 28 00:04:58 <ptinou>	faire un simple truc titre, message
nov. 28 00:04:58 <Nek>	RoR c'est ruby
nov. 28 00:05:06 <ptinou>	merci je sais
nov. 28 00:05:14 <Nek>	Bah pourquoi tu poses la question :D
nov. 28 00:05:14 <ptinou>	c'est bien plus rapide de faire un mini formulaire sans symfony
nov. 28 00:05:21 <Nek>	ouais
nov. 28 00:05:29 <ptinou>	donc je maintiens
nov. 28 00:05:35 <Nek>	mais il manque un tas de choses qui sont gérées par le composant de forms
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nov. 28 00:05:46 <Nek>	notamment le bind automatique toussa
nov. 28 00:05:56 <ptinou>	mais t'en as besoin 1 fois sur 100
nov. 28 00:06:03 <Nek>	non
nov. 28 00:06:04 <Nek>	tout le temps
nov. 28 00:06:11 <Nek>	le plus petit formulaire en a besoin!
nov. 28 00:06:11 <ptinou>	je suis d'accord si je partais sur un gros projet je m'amuserais pas à faire tout à la main
nov. 28 00:06:23 <ptinou>	mais quand t'as un mec qui te dit "j'ai besoin d'un mini site internet avec que ça, je veux qu'il soit fait demain"
nov. 28 00:06:24 <Nek>	ça ajoute une couche de sécurité à base de token toussa
nov. 28 00:06:26 <ptinou>	tu te fais pas chier avec symfony
nov. 28 00:06:34 <ptinou>	mais tu t'en tamponne de ça les 3/4 du temps
nov. 28 00:06:47 <ptinou>	franchement pour un module de news utilisé deux fois par mois
nov. 28 00:06:52 <ptinou>	ou personne connait l'adresse de l'admin
nov. 28 00:06:57 <Nek>	avec ta façon de coder
nov. 28 00:07:01 <ptinou>	tu t'en fiche, t'as pas besoin d'un truc hyper compliqué à base de token
nov. 28 00:07:04 <Nek>	t'oublie même totalement le QC
nov. 28 00:07:10 <ptinou>	mais t'as jamais vu vraiment ma façon de coder
nov. 28 00:07:13 <ptinou>	(récente)
nov. 28 00:07:13 <Nek>	pourtant tu pourrais utiliser PHPUnit, après tout
nov. 28 00:07:20 <Nek>	certes
nov. 28 00:07:23 <ptinou>	ben alors
nov. 28 00:07:30 <Nek>	bah include haut/bas quoi
nov. 28 00:07:32 <Nek>	Rien que ça
nov. 28 00:07:37 <Nek>	c'est une répétition
nov. 28 00:07:39 <ptinou>	ben ça c'est parce que t'as dis que c'était naze
nov. 28 00:07:40 <Nek>	qui n'a pas lieu d'être
nov. 28 00:07:52 <Nek>	surtout sur un site de la taille de POL
nov. 28 00:07:59 <ptinou>	ça a rien a voir
nov. 28 00:08:09 <ptinou>	franchement
nov. 28 00:08:14 <ptinou>	on nous met un cahier des charges sur un projet à faire
nov. 28 00:08:17 <Nek>	imagine que tu veuilles changer le nom de ton fichier haut.php ?
nov. 28 00:08:17 <ptinou>	on verra bien qui l'aura fini en premier
nov. 28 00:08:22 <Nek>	réorganiser les dossiers ?
nov. 28 00:08:23 <ptinou>	et pourquoi je changerais le nom ?
nov. 28 00:08:24 <Nek>	grosse éclate
nov. 28 00:08:36 <ptinou>	c'est pareil dans tout les framework ça
nov. 28 00:08:40 <Nek>	améliorer la maintenance ? :D
nov. 28 00:08:41 <Nek>	Non
nov. 28 00:08:44 <ptinou>	imagine que tu veux changer le nom du dossier qui contient la lib … ben ouai
nov. 28 00:08:46 <Nek>	rien n'est répété dans un framework
nov. 28 00:08:56 <ptinou>	ben si faut bien aller la chercher quelque part la lib
nov. 28 00:09:07 <ptinou>	tu change le nom de ton bundle
nov. 28 00:09:08 <Nek>	c'est conventionné
nov. 28 00:09:12 <ptinou>	ben ouai tu vas avoir plein de fichiers à modifier
nov. 28 00:09:15 <ptinou>	oui ben moi aussi
nov. 28 00:09:16 <Nek>	composer
nov. 28 00:09:17 <Nek>	php
nov. 28 00:09:19 <Nek>	autoloader
nov. 28 00:09:20 <Nek>	toussa
nov. 28 00:09:24 <ptinou>	j'ai décidé par convention que mon fichier haut il était dans le dossier page
nov. 28 00:09:37 <ptinou>	et si je veux tout changer, ben je fais une boucle en bash et voilà
nov. 28 00:09:45 *	Nek vomi
nov. 28 00:09:54 <ptinou>	mais c'est pareil dans symfony
nov. 28 00:10:02 <Nek>	pas vraiment non
nov. 28 00:10:04 <ptinou>	t'as des conventions, qui te dis qu'elles te plairont encore demain
nov. 28 00:10:07 <Nek>	tu inclues un fichier
nov. 28 00:10:10 <Nek>	qui sait où sont les autres
nov. 28 00:10:27 <Nek>	à vrai dire, il y a une évolution de conventions entre Sf2.0 et Sf2.1
nov. 28 00:10:34 <ptinou>	à partir du moment ou t'as besoin d'une classe dans plusieures autre classe
nov. 28 00:10:35 <Nek>	t'as cru qu'ils avaient fait un script bash ?
nov. 28 00:10:36 <Nek>	non
nov. 28 00:10:43 <ptinou>	non excuse moi ils ont fait un script php
nov. 28 00:10:47 <Nek>	. . .
nov. 28 00:11:01 <ptinou>	à partir du moment ou t'as besoin d'une classe dans plusieurs autre classe, t'es bien obligé de l'inclure plusieurs fois ta classe
nov. 28 00:11:02 <Nek>	Ils ont juste modifié l'autoloader
nov. 28 00:11:05 <ptinou>	donc t'as exactement le même problème partout
nov. 28 00:11:29 <Nek>	entre modifier un fichier
nov. 28 00:11:33 <Nek>	et en modifier N
nov. 28 00:11:38 <ptinou>	ben tu vas en modifier N
nov. 28 00:11:38 <Nek>	ma foi, mon choix est fait
nov. 28 00:11:59 <Nek>	Nan, la classe n'est pas incluse
nov. 28 00:12:05 <Nek>	elle est autoloadée
nov. 28 00:12:12 <Nek>	les namespaces c'est la vie
nov. 28 00:12:16 <ptinou>	mais dans symfony t'as autant de fichier que t'as de bundles
nov. 28 00:12:19 <ptinou>	voire plus
nov. 28 00:12:24 <Nek>	PHP a juste tardé à s'y mettre
nov. 28 00:12:28 <ptinou>	donc t'as bien des include qui se répêtent, c'est juste obligé
nov. 28 00:12:32 <Nek>	non
nov. 28 00:12:39 <Nek>	Parce que les autoloaders sont pas cons
nov. 28 00:12:53 <Nek>	un fichier inclus n'est pas réinclus
nov. 28 00:12:55 <ptinou>	ben l'autoloader faut bien lui filer un dossier
nov. 28 00:12:59 <ptinou>	ça a aucun rapport
nov. 28 00:13:02 <ptinou>	je parle pas de réinclusion la
nov. 28 00:13:37 <Nek>	En fait, c'est composer qui génère l'autoloader
nov. 28 00:13:44 <Nek>	avec les dossiers définis par chaque lib
nov. 28 00:13:49 <ptinou>	oui donc on en revient a mon script bash
nov. 28 00:13:50 <Nek>	grâce au composer.json
nov. 28 00:13:53 <Nek>	nop
nov. 28 00:13:57 <ptinou>	c'est pareil sauf que c'est fait avec les techno web
nov. 28 00:14:17 <ptinou>	franchement tu te fatigue à vouloir faire un truc propre alors que php n'est même pas propre à la base
nov. 28 00:14:32 <Nek>	Ce débat est une perte de temps
nov. 28 00:14:33 <Nek>	:)
nov. 28 00:14:42 <ptinou>	oh et puis tiens : http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
nov. 28 00:15:04 <Nek>	ouais
nov. 28 00:15:06 <Nek>	je connais
nov. 28 00:15:21 <Nek>	Fabien potencier y a même répondu
nov. 28 00:15:45 <Nek>	http://fabien.potencier.org/article/64/php-is-much-better-than-you-think
nov. 28 00:15:53 <ptinou>	si vraiment t'es un puriste du codage
nov. 28 00:15:55 <ptinou>	utilise un vrai langage
nov. 28 00:16:03 <ptinou>	pas un truc qui recopie la libc à l'arrache
nov. 28 00:16:07 <ptinou>	et si tu utilise php, ben assume
nov. 28 00:16:30 <ptinou>	ben regarde l'article de fabien la taille
nov. 28 00:16:35 <ptinou>	et la taille de celui que je t'ai filé
nov. 28 00:16:43 <ptinou>	il a pas répondu à tout les points et de loin
nov. 28 00:16:48 <Nek>	t'as lu ?
nov. 28 00:16:58 <Nek>	Et puis PHP s'approche plus du java now.
nov. 28 00:17:29 <Nek>	Peu importe.
nov. 28 00:17:33 <Nek>	Ce débat est une perte de temps
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nov. 28 00:24:30 <ptinou>	un débat n'est jamais une perte de temps.
nov. 28 00:25:49 <ptinou>	ah tiens j'avais oublié le bug sur la fonction crypt()
nov. 28 00:26:07 <Nek>	On est typiquement la représentation de ces deux mecs
nov. 28 00:26:07 <ptinou>	les devs de php ne font donc pas de tests unitaires à priori
nov. 28 00:26:12 <Nek>	raté
nov. 28 00:26:14 <ptinou>	mais j'ai rien contre php
nov. 28 00:26:21 <Nek>	PHPUnit existe
nov. 28 00:26:24 <Nek>	Atoum existe
nov. 28 00:26:28 <Nek>	Behat existe
nov. 28 00:26:29 <ptinou>	je dis pas que ça existe pas
nov. 28 00:26:36 <Nek>	Et c'est utilisé
nov. 28 00:26:44 <ptinou>	ça a rien a voir la
nov. 28 00:26:51 <ptinou>	toi tu parle de tests unitaires sur des applis codés en php
nov. 28 00:27:05 <ptinou>	moi je te parle d'un test unitaire qui n'a pas été fait avant de release php 5.jesaispluscombien
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nov. 28 00:27:41 <ptinou>	tout ça pour dire
nov. 28 00:27:46 <ptinou>	php c'est bien, c'est pratique, ça marche
nov. 28 00:27:57 <Nek>	ah ouais
nov. 28 00:27:58 <ptinou>	mais ça restera un langage bricolage tant qu'ils auront pas viré tout ces bugs
nov. 28 00:28:22 <ptinou>	et je dis pas ça pour titiller
nov. 28 00:28:28 <Nek>	Moi je pense qu'il faut passer la direction de PHP à Sensio \o/
nov. 28 00:28:29 <ptinou>	les comparaisons la j'ai déjà eu le problème pour de vrai
nov. 28 00:28:48 <ptinou>	faut qu'ils arrêtent la compatibilité php < 5 au bout d'un moment
nov. 28 00:28:54 <Nek>	oui voilà
nov. 28 00:28:58 <Nek>	c'est ça le problème
nov. 28 00:29:06 <Nek>	faut qu'ils cassent cette putain de compatibilité malsaine
nov. 28 00:29:12 <ptinou>	et qu'ils mettent des vrais outils de débuggage
nov. 28 00:29:22 <Nek>	ça c'est fait
nov. 28 00:29:24 <ptinou>	et de dev
nov. 28 00:29:28 <Nek>	aussi
nov. 28 00:29:35 <Nek>	xdebug
nov. 28 00:29:36 <ptinou>	ben pour le moment bof
nov. 28 00:29:42 <ptinou>	encore une fois
nov. 28 00:29:44 <ptinou>	c'est du bricolage
nov. 28 00:29:48 <Nek>	(il y en a d'autre, mais il fait tout ce qu'on attend de lui)
nov. 28 00:29:55 <ptinou>	t'es obligé d'installer une extension pour avoir du debug
nov. 28 00:29:59 <ptinou>	c'st quand même hallucinant
nov. 28 00:30:02 <Nek>	nan
nov. 28 00:30:06 <Nek>	c'est dans la logique php
nov. 28 00:30:13 <ptinou>	oui ben c'est bien ce que je dis
nov. 28 00:30:14 <Nek>	c'est comme le cache apc
nov. 28 00:30:15 <ptinou>	c'est hallucinant
nov. 28 00:30:20 <ptinou>	nan mais la
nov. 28 00:30:23 <Nek>	et tout un tas d'autres conneries en fait
nov. 28 00:30:24 <ptinou>	t'as rien pour développer de base
nov. 28 00:30:32 <Nek>	si
nov. 28 00:30:34 <Nek>	le serveur web
nov. 28 00:30:35 <Nek>	:d
nov. 28 00:30:37 <ptinou>	t'as même pas de serveur de développement de base
nov. 28 00:30:41 <Nek>	</troll>
nov. 28 00:30:47 <ptinou>	tu dois utiliser apache2 pour ton serveur de dev
nov. 28 00:30:50 <ptinou>	c'est juste hallucinant
nov. 28 00:30:51 <Nek>	négatif
nov. 28 00:30:52 <ptinou>	ou un autre
nov. 28 00:30:52 <Nek>	tu l'as
nov. 28 00:31:12 <ptinou>	ouai depuis php 5.pasencoresortisuraucunedistrib
nov. 28 00:31:18 <Nek>	5.4
nov. 28 00:31:40 <Nek>	bah après, faut utiliser dotdeb pour être à jour
nov. 28 00:31:40 <ptinou>	et tu fais comment pour avoir les url rewritting avec ton serveur de dev ?
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nov. 28 00:31:47 <Nek>	parce que ça fait un bout de temps 5.4
nov. 28 00:32:17 <Nek>	bonne question pour l'url rewriting, mais ça fonctionne, je ne sais pas comment
nov. 28 00:32:22 <Nek>	(je ne me suis jamais posé la question)
nov. 28 00:32:27 <ptinou>	voilà
nov. 28 00:32:34 <ptinou>	le genre de trucs pas clean du tout
nov. 28 00:32:40 <ptinou>	après je l'utilise php
nov. 28 00:32:41 <Nek>	bof
nov. 28 00:32:45 <Nek>	ça doit être documenté
nov. 28 00:32:53 <ptinou>	ça devrait pas
nov. 28 00:32:57 <Nek>	wtf ?
nov. 28 00:33:01 <ptinou>	tu devrait avoir un truc dans php pour gérer le rewritting
nov. 28 00:33:13 <Nek>	Déjà tu mets ruby au premier plan
nov. 28 00:33:18 <ptinou>	non
nov. 28 00:33:22 <Nek>	mais il faut quand même installer des tas de bundles
nov. 28 00:33:28 <Nek>	pour pouvoir lancer une app RoR
nov. 28 00:33:35 <Nek>	le serveur n'est pas de base non plus
nov. 28 00:33:39 <ptinou>	j'ai pas parlé de RoR
nov. 28 00:33:47 <Nek>	et tout ça est géré dans un cadre très très obscure
nov. 28 00:33:55 <Nek>	de RoR et Django même
nov. 28 00:34:07 <ptinou>	tout les framework dans les autres langages même
nov. 28 00:34:11 <ptinou>	et même symfony
nov. 28 00:34:17 <ptinou>	mais encore une fois
nov. 28 00:34:25 <ptinou>	symfony ils doivent bricoler à cause des faiblesse de php
nov. 28 00:34:37 <Nek>	bof
nov. 28 00:34:44 <Nek>	il n'y a pas tant de bricolage que ça
nov. 28 00:34:53 <Nek>	ya des classes intégrées à PHP que tu n'imagines même pas
nov. 28 00:34:55 <ptinou>	un .htacess c'est du bricolage
nov. 28 00:35:02 <Nek>	non
nov. 28 00:35:05 <ptinou>	si
nov. 28 00:35:07 <Nek>	c'est du apache
nov. 28 00:35:08 <Nek>	rien à voir
nov. 28 00:35:13 <ptinou>	parce que sur ton lighthttpd
nov. 28 00:35:17 <ptinou>	ton appli symfony elle marche plus
nov. 28 00:35:27 <Nek>	note qu'on utilise pas du django/RoR sans apache, hein
nov. 28 00:35:34 <ptinou>	on peut
nov. 28 00:35:38 <Nek>	nan
nov. 28 00:35:40 <ptinou>	si
nov. 28 00:35:42 <Nek>	c'est pas réaliste
nov. 28 00:35:46 <Nek>	totalement anti performant
nov. 28 00:35:46 <ptinou>	mais on peut
nov. 28 00:35:52 <Nek>	Bah avec php tu vois
nov. 28 00:35:54 <Nek>	on peut aussi
nov. 28 00:35:56 <Nek>	depuis 5.4
nov. 28 00:36:00 <Nek>	et au même titre que les autres
nov. 28 00:36:02 <ptinou>	ben tu dois récrire le code pour le rewritting
nov. 28 00:36:06 <Nek>	c'est non recommandé car anti performant
nov. 28 00:36:11 <Nek>	mais j'tiens à souligner quand même
nov. 28 00:36:18 <Nek>	que c'est intégré à PHP
nov. 28 00:36:24 <Nek>	pas les autres
nov. 28 00:36:32 <Nek>	Pour faire simple, PHP est LE langage pour le web.
nov. 28 00:36:43 <ptinou>	ça va être le mod apache qui va gérer ça pour les autres normalement
nov. 28 00:36:53 <Nek>	Et parler du htaccess n'a aucun sens puisque ça ne dépend pas de PHP
nov. 28 00:37:00 <ptinou>	si ça a du sens
nov. 28 00:37:11 <ptinou>	parce que t'as une vision de 1 fichier = une page
nov. 28 00:37:16 <ptinou>	enfin la vision php
nov. 28 00:37:22 <ptinou>	l'arbre de dev, c'est l'arbre du site
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nov. 28 00:37:28 <ptinou>	c'est faux dans tout les autres langages
nov. 28 00:37:37 <Nek>	c'est pas php qui a cette vision
nov. 28 00:37:38 <johnny-pol>	ANyone on here ENglish?
nov. 28 00:37:39 <ptinou>	donc la redirection url est intégrée
nov. 28 00:37:40 <Nek>	c'est le protocol http
nov. 28 00:37:44 <Nek>	et c'est normal
nov. 28 00:37:46 <johnny-pol>	ENGLISH
nov. 28 00:37:47 <ptinou>	Nek: pour pousser a l'extreme
nov. 28 00:37:52 <ptinou>	johnny-pol: CALM DOWN !
nov. 28 00:37:53 <Nek>	johnny-pol, talk.
nov. 28 00:38:02 <ptinou>	Nek:  pour pousser a l'extrème
nov. 28 00:38:05 <johnny-pol>	o_O
nov. 28 00:38:22 <ptinou>	en python on pourrait très bien coder le serveur web avec le framework
nov. 28 00:38:27 <Nek>	tu balances des problèmes qui n'en sont pas sur php alors que c'est général
nov. 28 00:38:30 <Nek>	tu divagues :D
nov. 28 00:38:32 <ptinou>	non
nov. 28 00:38:34 <ptinou>	justement
nov. 28 00:38:39 <ptinou>	c'est la vision php qui sépare les problèmes
nov. 28 00:38:44 <ptinou>	mais si tu prend un peu de recul
nov. 28 00:38:44 <Nek>	non non et non
nov. 28 00:38:53 <Nek>	on ne sort pas du django avec le serveur python
nov. 28 00:38:54 <ptinou>	pourquoi est-ce que le routage devrait être séparé du framework ?
nov. 28 00:39:07 <ptinou>	le serveur de dev il est en python
nov. 28 00:39:07 <Nek>	le routage n'est pas séparé
nov. 28 00:39:08 <johnny-pol>	3 seconds and already some no job asshole bitches at me
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nov. 28 00:39:11 <Nek>	il est juste envoyé
nov. 28 00:39:34 <ptinou>	en gros
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nov. 28 00:39:43 <ptinou>	tu fais un mod php pour apache, tu dois avoir htacess derrière
nov. 28 00:39:57 <ptinou>	tu fais un mod rails pour apache
nov. 28 00:40:05 <ptinou>	ça va gérer les url avec
nov. 28 00:40:07 <ptinou>	enfin ce que je veux dire
nov. 28 00:40:13 <ptinou>	c'est que pour les autre langage
nov. 28 00:40:16 <Nek>	déjà les modules apache c'est déprécié
nov. 28 00:40:18 <ptinou>	les mods apache vont avec le framework
nov. 28 00:40:33 <Nek>	car anti performants
nov. 28 00:40:38 <ptinou>	osef de ça
nov. 28 00:40:49 <Nek>	nan mais du coup tu te retrouves au même problème final
nov. 28 00:40:54 <ptinou>	ce que je veux dire, c'est que le serveur web devrait envoyer la requete au framework
nov. 28 00:40:57 <ptinou>	et le framework se demerde
nov. 28 00:41:03 <ptinou>	avec php tu peux pas faire ça
nov. 28 00:41:15 <ptinou>	donc tu dois faire un htaccess pour demander au serveur web d'envoyer la requete a ton appli
nov. 28 00:41:31 <ptinou>	dans l'idéal, faudrait que symfony soit directement intégré à apache
nov. 28 00:41:50 <ptinou>	voire même qu'ils aient un serveur de prod performant
nov. 28 00:41:54 <Nek>	mais c'est ce qui se passe
nov. 28 00:41:59 <Nek>	c'est juste une question de conf apache
nov. 28 00:42:13 <Nek>	le routing est bel et bien géré par Sf
nov. 28 00:42:25 <ptinou>	par un htaccess ou l'équivalent
nov. 28 00:42:33 <ptinou>	évidemment qu'il est géré par symfony
nov. 28 00:42:35 <ptinou>	encore hereux
nov. 28 00:42:51 <Nek>	man
nov. 28 00:42:58 <Nek>	on a tellement ignoré johnny-pol
nov. 28 00:43:03 <Nek>	c'était assez epic en fait
nov. 28 00:43:08 <ptinou>	ouai
nov. 28 00:43:09 <ptinou>	ben en même temps
nov. 28 00:43:14 <Nek>	mais il était très con
nov. 28 00:43:15 <ptinou>	il avait pas a se comporter comme ça
nov. 28 00:43:33 <ptinou>	il aurait été plus poli je l'aurais aidé
nov. 28 00:43:41 <Nek>	moi j'aurais essayé
nov. 28 00:44:00 <Nek>	tiens au fait, t'as check le script de need for speed underground 2 ?
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nov. 28 00:44:10 <ptinou>	qui l'a fait ?
nov. 28 00:44:37 <Nek>	no sé
nov. 28 00:45:15 <ptinou>	enfin bref
nov. 28 00:45:21 <ptinou>	pas envi d'apprendre à utiliser à fond symfony
nov. 28 00:45:28 <Nek>	GNU_Raziel
nov. 28 00:45:31 <ptinou>	si c'est pour maitriser un framework, autant utiliser un vrai langage
nov. 28 00:45:32 <ptinou>	il a un soucis ?
nov. 28 00:45:41 <Nek>	bah ouais
nov. 28 00:45:45 <Nek>	il marche pas du tout le script
nov. 28 00:45:50 <Nek>	too old, 2010 quoi
nov. 28 00:45:55 <ptinou>	bon ben
nov. 28 00:45:55 <ptinou>	to do
nov. 28 00:46:50 <Nek>	ok
nov. 28 00:46:56 <Nek>	merci :)
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nov. 28 00:47:16 <ptinou>	mais je sais pas quand j'aurai le temps
nov. 28 00:47:28 <Nek>	ma foi, ce n'est pas un prob
nov. 28 00:47:41 <Nek>	Si tu veux je pourrai être ton cobaye
nov. 28 00:48:11 <ptinou>	le soucis c'est que j'ai aucuns jeux
nov. 28 00:48:42 <Nek>	C'est pour ça que je te propose
nov. 28 00:48:50 <Nek>	Moi j'ai voulu faire le script
nov. 28 00:48:53 <ptinou>	et ?
nov. 28 00:49:04 <Nek>	mais je me suis rendu compte qu'en fait, bah c'est pas si simple quand on connaît pas du tout
nov. 28 00:49:14 <Nek>	et mes modifs n'ont pas du tout fonctionné
nov. 28 00:49:16 <ptinou>	mais si c'est supra simple
nov. 28 00:49:19 <ptinou>	pars de 0
nov. 28 00:50:11 <ptinou>	POL c'est un gros tât de code crade pour que au bout, l'utilisateur puisse avoir un langage de script simple et propre
nov. 28 00:50:49 <Nek>	x)
nov. 28 00:51:09 <ptinou>	et encore tu verras des classes apparaitre sur tu regarde le code ...
nov. 28 00:51:25 <ptinou>	depuis le moment ou je me suis mis a prendre ça en peu + au sérieux
nov. 28 00:51:29 <ptinou>	c'est assez marrant le résultat
nov. 28 00:51:40 <ptinou>	parce que je vais pas tout récrire ce serait contre productif
nov. 28 00:51:54 <Nek>	Parfois faut y passer
nov. 28 00:52:02 <ptinou>	mais faut se mettre dans la tête que la plupart des projets commencent en étant de tout petits trucs, donc sont codés par conséquents
nov. 28 00:52:03 <Nek>	Le problème c'est que ça peut être un échec
nov. 28 00:52:16 <ptinou>	et ceux qui veulent se lancer dans un truc super structuré au départ, ben ça part jamais
nov. 28 00:52:17 <ptinou>	cf lutris
nov. 28 00:52:18 <Nek>	T'es sur github ?
nov. 28 00:52:25 <ptinou>	oui oui POL est sur github
nov. 28 00:52:35 <Nek>	c'est cool, on peut faire des PR alors
nov. 28 00:52:47 <ptinou>	et j'ai aucun devoir de qualité de code envers personne
nov. 28 00:52:54 <ptinou>	si quelqu'un n'aime pas mon code, je l'em**erde
nov. 28 00:52:58 <ptinou>	je bosse pour moi ;p
nov. 28 00:53:35 <Nek>	J'adhère pas
nov. 28 00:53:44 <Nek>	ma vocation c'est QA/QC
nov. 28 00:53:46 <Nek>	:-°
nov. 28 00:53:52 <ptinou>	j'ai de compte à rendre à personne on va dire
nov. 28 00:54:00 <ptinou>	si un jour quelqu'un me dit "ok, on s'y colle on refait ça bien"
nov. 28 00:54:02 <ptinou>	je dis ok
nov. 28 00:54:07 <Nek>	le github n'est pas sur le site, dommage
nov. 28 00:54:10 <ptinou>	enfin ça dépend du projet
nov. 28 00:54:12 <ptinou>	si
nov. 28 00:54:14 <ptinou>	!download
nov. 28 00:54:14 <PlayOnLinux>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
nov. 28 00:55:45 <ptinou>	regarde les projets qui ont toujours critiqué notre façon de faire où ils sont aujourd'hui
nov. 28 00:56:17 <ptinou>	on a jamais eu la prétention d'être des puriste du code
nov. 28 00:56:41 <Nek>	ouais ouais
nov. 28 00:56:53 <Nek>	Mais moi j'aime quand c'est maintenable à grande échelle
nov. 28 00:56:56 <Nek>	:-°
nov. 28 00:57:01 <ptinou>	mais c'est pas le but de POL
nov. 28 00:57:05 <Nek>	et je rage comme un connard contre la majorité des projets libres
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nov. 28 00:57:14 <Nek>	raté
nov. 28 00:57:16 <ptinou>	:p
nov. 28 00:57:17 <Nek>	je ne peux pas m'insulte
nov. 28 00:57:18 <Nek>	r
nov. 28 00:57:28 <ptinou>	le but de POL c'est d'être maintenable à son échelle
nov. 28 00:57:39 <ptinou>	et si ça pose problème ben on s'adapte, on se restructure, on change ce qui va pas
nov. 28 00:57:40 <Nek>	Donc je rage contre ces projets, auxquels contribuer est un fardeau
nov. 28 00:57:45 <ptinou>	comme toute entreprise en fin de compte
nov. 28 00:57:55 <Nek>	bon, déjà github c'est un grand pas vers la contribution x)
nov. 28 00:57:55 <ptinou>	je pense que POL on met largement les moyens pour que les gens puissent contribuer
nov. 28 00:58:03 <ptinou>	y'a pas que github
nov. 28 00:58:04 <ptinou>	y'a les scripts
nov. 28 00:58:09 <ptinou>	les trads sur le launchpad
nov. 28 00:58:17 <ptinou>	tout est fait pour que l'utilisateur puisse contribuer
nov. 28 00:58:25 <Nek>	Mais typiquement, Symfony (hors contexte php)
nov. 28 00:58:29 <Nek>	Conventionné à mort
nov. 28 00:58:36 <Nek>	sorti du chapeau de sensio
nov. 28 00:58:47 <ptinou>	ça sert a rien si les gens qui veulent contribuer ne conaissent pas symfo,ny
nov. 28 00:58:47 <Nek>	tout le monde est monté dessus pour faire tout un tas de trucs super cools
nov. 28 00:58:56 <Nek>	Et ils tournent à 20PR par jour
nov. 28 00:58:59 <Nek>	bah voilà, conventions
nov. 28 00:59:19 <ptinou>	et pourquoi on suivrait celles de symfony et pas d'autres ?
nov. 28 00:59:47 <Nek>	C'est pas les convs de Sf
nov. 28 00:59:50 <Nek>	c'est les convs de PHP
nov. 28 00:59:57 <ptinou>	y'a pas de convs dans php ...
nov. 28 01:00:02 <Nek>	si
nov. 28 01:00:13 <Nek>	psr-0 (1 et 2)
nov. 28 01:00:19 <ptinou>	tu pourra me dire ça quand ce sera base64decode, urldecode
nov. 28 01:00:28 <ptinou>	mais tant qu'ils ont pas réglé tout ces problèmes c'est pas crédible
nov. 28 01:00:35 <Nek>	C'est des Coding Conventions
nov. 28 01:00:44 <Nek>	Pas des conventions pour php en lui même
nov. 28 01:00:57 <ptinou>	oui c'est bien ce que je dis
nov. 28 01:00:59 <ptinou>	c'est pas crédible
nov. 28 01:01:00 <l403>	english descriptions in those heaps of scripts or any sort of documentation would really help
nov. 28 01:01:06 <Nek>	mais ça l'est, je te le prouve par l'exemple là
nov. 28 01:01:13 <ptinou>	t'impose aux developperus des conventions mais toi t'en as rien à foutre
nov. 28 01:01:22 <ptinou>	c'est comme si je mettais pleins de normes à la con sur les scripts de POL
nov. 28 01:01:29 <Nek>	Les conventions ne sortent pas de chez Zend
nov. 28 01:01:29 <ptinou>	mais qu'après y'avait du POL_SetupWindow_message
nov. 28 01:01:33 <ptinou>	du POL_Setup_Window_question
nov. 28 01:01:39 <ptinou>	bref, ce serait délire
nov. 28 01:01:42 <Nek>	D'ailleurs le dev de PHP est pas vraiment fait par Zend, mais ceci est une autre histoire
nov. 28 01:01:52 <Nek>	ça vient plutôt de la communauté Symfony psr
nov. 28 01:02:00 <Nek>	enfin, symfony1 du coup
nov. 28 01:02:28 <Nek>	Mais ça reprend des normes acceptées par pas mal de gens déjà avant
nov. 28 01:02:42 <Nek>	(les _ dans les noms de classes quand les namespaces n'existaient pas)
nov. 28 01:03:16 <ptinou>	c'est un peu … comment dire
nov. 28 01:03:28 <ptinou>	faire une voiture avec un moteur super puissant, 200CV
nov. 28 01:03:35 <Nek>	Chaque langage a ses conventions indépendantes du langage lui même
nov. 28 01:03:38 <ptinou>	mais avec les freins, les pneus, et les amortisseurs qui suivent pas
nov. 28 01:04:01 <Nek>	peu importe
nov. 28 01:04:06 <Nek>	prenons python
nov. 28 01:04:11 <Nek>	ils ont leur conventions aussi
nov. 28 01:04:20 <ptinou>	hum ?
nov. 28 01:04:26 <Nek>	Java aussi (elles sont aussi strictes que psr chez java)
nov. 28 01:04:31 <ptinou>	oui
nov. 28 01:04:39 <Nek>	jQuery impose des good practices aussi
nov. 28 01:04:40 <ptinou>	mais au moins dans les libs de ces langage
nov. 28 01:04:44 <ptinou>	tout colle a peu près
nov. 28 01:04:58 <Nek>	mais osef
nov. 28 01:05:15 <Nek>	J'ai donné Sf parce que c'est un exemple flagrant de truc qui monte que j'avais sous la main
nov. 28 01:05:24 <Nek>	on peut l'appliquer à Django tiens
nov. 28 01:05:37 <ptinou>	j'ai jamais fais de vrai projet avec django
nov. 28 01:05:44 <ptinou>	ils bossent la dessus
nov. 28 01:06:04 <ptinou>	et je sais qu'au rezo c'est des gros nazis de la pureté du code
nov. 28 01:06:04 <Nek>	n'importe quel framework qui espère évoluer respecte des conventions
nov. 28 01:06:15 <Nek>	Après en C
nov. 28 01:06:16 <Nek>	bon..
nov. 28 01:06:18 <Nek>	j'ai cherché..
nov. 28 01:06:27 <Nek>	ya bien 2-3 clampins qui ont fait leurs convs
nov. 28 01:06:32 <ptinou>	C n'a pas de niveau d'abstraction
nov. 28 01:06:34 <Nek>	mais globalement, il n'y en a pas
nov. 28 01:06:37 <Nek>	chacun pour sa gueule
nov. 28 01:06:39 <ptinou>	pas besoin de d'avoir de conventions
nov. 28 01:06:48 <Nek>	Yen a quelques unes
nov. 28 01:06:59 <Nek>	qui sont pas dites, mais que tout le monde respecte
nov. 28 01:07:02 <Nek>	les header dans les .h
nov. 28 01:07:13 <ptinou>	ben ...
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nov. 28 01:07:18 <ptinou>	tu veux les mettre où
nov. 28 01:07:31 <Nek>	:D
nov. 28 01:07:41 <Nek>	on peut les mettre n'importe où en pratique
nov. 28 01:07:53 <Nek>	Seulement voilà, par convention, dans les .h
nov. 28 01:07:54 <ptinou>	oui et donc tu les mettrais où ?
nov. 28 01:08:00 <ptinou>	c'est pas une histoire de convention les .h
nov. 28 01:08:09 <ptinou>	c'est juste une question pratique
nov. 28 01:08:15 <ptinou>	si ça servait à rien on le mettrait dans le .c
nov. 28 01:08:29 <Nek>	ça serait moins pratique
nov. 28 01:08:31 <Nek>	certes
nov. 28 01:08:36 <Nek>	mais tout aussi correct
nov. 28 01:08:40 <ptinou>	pas moins pratique
nov. 28 01:08:47 <ptinou>	tu pourrais pas distribuer les header sans distribuer le code
nov. 28 01:09:52 <Nek>	certes
nov. 28 01:10:26 <Nek>	le coup du #ifdef c'est aussi une belle convention
nov. 28 01:10:39 <Nek>	oui j'insiste, c'est quand même des conventions malgré tout
nov. 28 01:10:53 <Nek>	même si l'aspect pratique est évident
nov. 28 01:12:39 <ptinou>	une convention n'a pas d'aspect pratique si ce n'est que tout le monde la respecte
nov. 28 01:12:49 <ptinou>	sinon c'est plus une convention
nov. 28 01:13:25 <Nek>	Elle peut en avoir
nov. 28 01:13:48 <ptinou>	enfin la c'est un débat philosophique
nov. 28 01:13:54 <Nek>	tout à fait
nov. 28 01:13:58 <Nek>	et là je m'en vais en fait
nov. 28 01:14:02 <Nek>	donc bonne nuit
nov. 28 01:14:06 <ptinou>	bonne nuit
nov. 28 01:14:08 <Nek>	médite bien à tout ce qu'on a dit :p
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nov. 28 10:24:37 <gracent>	Hi guys, is there a PPA going up for Quantal?
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nov. 28 10:31:33 <fenixp>	gracent: Hello. I have no clue, but I can provide you with psychological support.
nov. 28 10:31:50 <gracent>	lmao - nice
nov. 28 10:32:17 <fenixp>	gracent: Also, if you actually want help, it's best to come here at about 1400 - 1800 GMT, give or take
nov. 28 10:42:34 <gracent>	fenixp: I know, ta. It was nothing urgent so I thought I'd throw it out there on the off chance
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nov. 28 12:15:33 <ptinou>	gracent: use the precise repos
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nov. 28 12:34:35 <gracent>	ptinou: fair enough :D
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nov. 28 14:44:50 <chris-pol>	Hello
nov. 28 14:45:41 <chris-pol>	Need to put the arguement "-dx9single" on GuildWars2, to prevent the client getting black.But the only options I got are:Name [GW2]Wine-Version [set on 1.5.12-GuildWars2]Virtual Drive [GW2L]Debugging activate []could you tell me pls how to get the arguement line or another option to get it work?
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nov. 28 14:47:23 <chris-pol>	someone who can give support?
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nov. 28 15:00:14 <chris-pol>	seems like nobody in here
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nov. 28 15:23:43 <gracent>	sup
nov. 28 15:28:55 <fenixp>	So, are you guys ready for another episode of "issues with Fenixp"?
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nov. 28 15:33:04 <dmitry-pol>	Всем привет!!!
nov. 28 15:33:04 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel dmitry-pol
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nov. 28 15:43:19 <dmitry-pol>	halo
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nov. 28 15:47:20 <chris-pol>	hello*
nov. 28 15:47:36 <chris-pol>	seemes like somebody from the support got here?!
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nov. 28 15:54:48 <fenixp>	chris-pol: I'm not from support. But maybe I'll be of some help.
nov. 28 15:55:15 <chris-pol>	Need to put the arguement "-dx9single" on GuildWars2, to prevent the client getting black.But the only options I got are:Name [GW2]Wine-Version [set on 1.5.12-GuildWars2]Virtual Drive [GW2L]Debugging activate []could you tell me pls how to get the arguement line or another option to get it work?
nov. 28 15:55:33 <chris-pol>	this is the mail i sent to contact@playon.....
nov. 28 15:58:20 <chris-pol>	Here a screenshot:    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/argumentpol.png/
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nov. 28 16:43:18 <molnar-pol>	hello
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nov. 28 16:51:44 <chris-pol>	still need somebody to help me
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nov. 28 17:05:07 <staff67-pol>	Всем привет
nov. 28 17:05:07 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel staff67-pol
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nov. 28 18:42:58 <live-pol>	hi
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nov. 28 20:32:06 <MrNazar-pom>	omg this is so stupid, i try to run a game and it dosent work
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nov. 28 21:15:07 <coffex-pol>	Can sombody say me who PlayOnLinux a install pack save?
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nov. 28 21:45:06 <Benighted>	hey all, having trouble with getting DOTA 2 working on optimus laptop
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nov. 28 21:48:28 <luisito-pol>	aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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nov. 28 22:45:51 ---	PlayOnLinux gives voice to fc-arsenal
nov. 28 22:48:29 <fc-arsenal>	Всем привет
nov. 28 22:48:29 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel fc-arsenal
nov. 28 22:48:46 <fc-arsenal>	Русские есть?)
nov. 28 22:48:46 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel fc-arsenal
nov. 28 22:49:12 <fc-arsenal>	Hello
nov. 28 22:49:19 <pango>	hi
nov. 28 22:49:40 <fc-arsenal>	How are you?
nov. 28 22:50:20 <pango>	Let's say I'm ok :p
nov. 28 22:50:48 -->	freddy-pol (~PlayOnLin@cyberinterphonelja.telconet.net) has joined #playonlinux
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nov. 28 22:51:17 <fc-arsenal>	It's a good)
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nov. 28 22:52:30 <fc-arsenal>	You like a football?
nov. 28 22:52:35 <pango>	no
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nov. 28 22:52:44 <fc-arsenal>	Why?
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nov. 28 22:53:37 <pango>	I don't think it's particularly nice to watch
nov. 28 22:54:13 <fc-arsenal>	Where do you live?
nov. 28 22:54:32 <pango>	I'm near Bordeaux
nov. 28 22:55:27 <Dougie187>	Are you talking about world football? or american football?
nov. 28 22:56:17 <fc-arsenal>	We are talking a sport number one in world)
nov. 28 22:56:17 <Dougie187>	I assume pango is talking about world football. :P
nov. 28 22:56:26 <Dougie187>	So, world football. Got it.
nov. 28 22:56:35 <Dougie187>	american soccer, world footbal.
nov. 28 22:57:03 <pango>	I don't think I ever watched an american football match indeed :p
nov. 28 22:57:11 <Dougie187>	It's more like rugby
nov. 28 22:57:16 <Dougie187>	but with a lot more pads
nov. 28 22:57:54 <fc-arsenal>	Dougie187, Where do you live?
nov. 28 22:58:00 <Dougie187>	New Mexico
nov. 28 22:58:03 <fc-arsenal>	USA?
nov. 28 22:58:06 <Dougie187>	yes
nov. 28 22:58:39 <fc-arsenal>	ок
nov. 28 22:58:39 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel fc-arsenal
nov. 28 22:59:30 <pango>	lol
nov. 28 22:59:42 <fc-arsenal>	Do you known is a David Beckham
nov. 28 22:59:51 <pango>	not personally
nov. 28 23:00:55 <fc-arsenal>	He was played in FC Los Angeles Galaxy
nov. 28 23:01:10 <fc-arsenal>	FC - Football club
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nov. 28 23:04:19 <fc-arsenal>	Bye bye
nov. 28 23:04:25 <fc-arsenal>	Good luck
nov. 28 23:04:26 <pango>	bye fc-arsenal 
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nov. 28 23:04:57 <Dougie187>	Do you chat with him often? :P
nov. 28 23:05:16 <pango>	I suppose he just installed POL
nov. 28 23:05:24 <Dougie187>	Well, his name doesn't have -pol on it.
nov. 28 23:05:49 <pango>	it's not enforced by the embedded client, just suggested in the nick by default
nov. 28 23:06:31 <Dougie187>	yeah, I just figured if he was using that he would probably have that as his nick. but you could be right.
nov. 28 23:06:32 <Dougie187>	:P
nov. 28 23:07:11 <Dougie187>	How's your resume?
nov. 28 23:08:06 <pango>	still things that I don't like, but eventually I didn't work that much on it 
nov. 28 23:08:47 <pango>	I still had things to do, knowledge transfers, meetings,...
nov. 28 23:08:56 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 28 23:09:35 <pango>	and also some of the work as usual, helping people that will stay
nov. 28 23:09:50 <Dougie187>	Are you all done there now?
nov. 28 23:11:04 <pango>	I should go to work at least 'til the end of this week, and leave the 6th or something like that
nov. 28 23:12:11 <Dougie187>	Oh ok
nov. 28 23:12:17 <Dougie187>	You doing much job hunting now?
nov. 28 23:12:40 <pango>	gathered some info, but not much job hunting yet
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nov. 29 00:02:38 <neko-pol>	how can i update my playonlinux?
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nov. 29 00:17:22 <emilio-pol>	hola
nov. 29 00:17:22 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel emilio-pol
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nov. 29 01:14:30 <estudiante-pol>	hola
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nov. 29 01:14:30 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel estudiante-pol
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nov. 29 01:15:50 <estudiante-pol>	no puedo descargar nada
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nov. 29 03:21:15 <EzpadaZ>	Hi!
nov. 29 03:21:42 <Dougie187>	Hi
nov. 29 03:22:15 <EzpadaZ>	I Have One question. i installed gta san andreas. but i want to install the "sa-mp 0.3c" or known as multiplayer. But i can't search for the "installation patch" of my gta. because it's on the virtual drive.
nov. 29 03:22:21 <EzpadaZ>	Any solution?
nov. 29 03:24:39 <Dougie187>	nope, sorry. :(
nov. 29 03:25:06 <EzpadaZ>	Also, the virtual drive is hidden, at the moment to install the sa-mp client, i can manage to go to my files, but, i can't show hidden files on the installer.
nov. 29 03:25:08 <EzpadaZ>	:(
nov. 29 03:25:28 <EzpadaZ>	Thanks for your time, if anyone have any idea, please, answer, i'll keep trying.
nov. 29 03:36:35 <Dougie187>	So, what do you mean by it's on the virtual drive?
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nov. 29 03:37:03 <michaelmcguire-p>	hello?
nov. 29 03:37:10 <Dougie187>	Hi
nov. 29 03:37:23 <michaelmcguire-p>	oh cool, was seeing if this worked
nov. 29 03:37:39 <Dougie187>	yup it does. :D
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nov. 29 03:37:42 <EzpadaZ>	Virtual DRive
nov. 29 03:37:43 <EzpadaZ>	i mean
nov. 29 03:37:57 <michaelmcguire-p>	Where do i get help with installations ?
nov. 29 03:38:07 <Dougie187>	you can try to get help in here
nov. 29 03:38:12 <EzpadaZ>	it's mounted on "example: /home/user/.Playonlinux/GTA/INSTALLATIONHERE
nov. 29 03:38:14 <Dougie187>	but a lot of the people who help are French and therefore asleep
nov. 29 03:38:42 <michaelmcguire-p>	Well i've followed the instructions of this videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rRPvMckg24
nov. 29 03:38:49 <michaelmcguire-p>	but it wont finish the installation
nov. 29 03:39:02 <michaelmcguire-p>	just says please wait, and the wheel spins.. this sat for about 20 minutes
nov. 29 03:39:29 <EzpadaZ>	But the entire folder ".playonlinux" is hidden. and the installer of sa-mp doesn't show the hidden files. if i can't find the "hidden" files, i can't install the multiplayer patch.
nov. 29 03:39:52 <Dougie187>	What are you trying to find the hidden files in though?
nov. 29 03:40:17 <Dougie187>	If it's in your native file explorer you can hit Ctrl+H to show hidden files
nov. 29 03:40:34 <Dougie187>	Or, you can always copy the installer somewhere else?
nov. 29 03:40:56 <EzpadaZ>	xdddd, The virtual drive, where my gta installation is, it's hidden. BUT the installer (the multiplayer patch installer) DOESN'T show the files (even if i press Ctrl+H)
nov. 29 03:41:22 <Dougie187>	Maybe the patch isn't being installed in the right virtual drive then.
nov. 29 03:41:31 <Dougie187>	how are you launching the installer?
nov. 29 03:41:50 <EzpadaZ>	What installer. the "multiplayer ṕatch" ?
nov. 29 03:41:54 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 29 03:42:08 <EzpadaZ>	Wine.
nov. 29 03:42:14 <Dougie187>	yeah, but what command are you using?
nov. 29 03:42:23 <Dougie187>	You can't just right click on it, because it will try to run it in ~/.wine
nov. 29 03:42:29 <Dougie187>	rather than ~/.PlayOnLinux/....
nov. 29 03:42:53 <EzpadaZ>	... That makes sense. so, how do i run it from +
nov. 29 03:43:08 <EzpadaZ>	from: ~/.PlayOnLinux/
nov. 29 03:43:08 <EzpadaZ>	xd
nov. 29 03:43:20 <Dougie187>	Try going into the PoL interface, and selecting the virtual drive you want (GTA in this case). Then clicking on Configure
nov. 29 03:43:27 <Dougie187>	And then go to the Miscellaneous tab
nov. 29 03:43:39 <Dougie187>	And, "Run a .exe file in this virtual drive"
nov. 29 03:43:56 <EzpadaZ>	hell!, thanks! i'll try it on a bit, i didn't notice that.
nov. 29 03:44:21 <Dougie187>	np, I don't know if it will work. but it might.
nov. 29 03:44:36 <michaelmcguire-p>	can you try and help me now :O :D
nov. 29 03:44:44 <michaelmcguire-p>	mine might be simple
nov. 29 03:44:48 <Dougie187>	What game are you trying to install?
nov. 29 03:45:07 <michaelmcguire-p>	lol...JFK Reloaded.. it works according to that video
nov. 29 03:45:11 <michaelmcguire-p>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rRPvMckg24 <--
nov. 29 03:45:22 <michaelmcguire-p>	but, it wont finish the installation
nov. 29 03:46:00 <EzpadaZ>	why it doesn't finish? does the installer gives you a message? or something?
nov. 29 03:46:03 <Dougie187>	This is inside play on mac?
nov. 29 03:47:16 <michaelmcguire-p>	no message
nov. 29 03:47:24 <michaelmcguire-p>	just continues to say please wait
nov. 29 03:50:47 <Dougie187>	It looks like it was already installed prior to this guy making the video.
nov. 29 03:55:16 <michaelmcguire-p>	yeah i noticed that
nov. 29 04:32:02 <EzpadaZ>	someone online?
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nov. 29 04:46:38 <ezpadaz-pol>	DOugie
nov. 29 04:46:42 <ezpadaz-pol>	Dougie
nov. 29 04:46:58 <ezpadaz-pol>	It worked (running .exe from this virtual drive) Thank you so much. :)
nov. 29 04:47:00 <Dougie187>	What's up?
nov. 29 04:47:03 <Dougie187>	Nice. No problem
nov. 29 04:47:06 <Dougie187>	glad that helped. :P
nov. 29 04:47:20 <ezpadaz-pol>	Bye people! thanks
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nov. 29 07:26:55 <allan-pol>	tem algum brasileiro aqui na sala?
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nov. 29 09:07:34 <leapfrog-pol>	anyone available
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nov. 29 14:05:38 <xxqvpxx-pol>	hey
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nov. 29 14:05:54 <xxqvpxx-pol>	i want to ask a question
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nov. 29 16:02:01 <LinuxiD>	hello
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nov. 29 16:02:14 <LinuxiD>	hello
nov. 29 16:02:30 <LinuxiD>	what
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nov. 29 16:52:31 <sam-pol>	hello: I am getting an error
nov. 29 16:52:41 <sam-pol>	"Something wrong happened in the download thread"
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nov. 29 16:53:05 <jonasbuttner-pom>	j
nov. 29 16:53:14 <jonasbuttner-pom>	hi
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nov. 29 17:04:03 <sam-pol>	fixme:ntdll:NtConnectPort (0x5b0c1170,L"\\ThemeApiPort",0x32fb3c,(nil),(nil),(nil),0x32fb4c,0x32fb48),stub!
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nov. 29 17:13:51 <Anton-pom>	oiijk
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nov. 29 17:59:07 <redteo-pol>	hi all
nov. 29 18:00:06 <redteo-pol>	i wondering to install itunes 10, but i didn't found the script like isaw in a video on youtube
nov. 29 18:00:25 <redteo-pol>	thank in advance for any suggestion
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nov. 29 18:27:39 <pangoafk>	redteo-pol: check the "Testing" checkbox to see it, it's a script in beta I think
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nov. 29 18:36:46 <fc-arsenal>	Hello people!!!
nov. 29 18:36:59 <pango>	hi
nov. 29 18:37:36 <fc-arsenal>	Oh, pango, my friends!!! How do you do?
nov. 29 18:38:24 <pango>	tomorrow probably the last day in my current work, so I'm just managing :p
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nov. 29 18:39:48 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 29 18:39:55 <fc-arsenal>	It's good :)
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nov. 29 18:40:45 <fc-arsenal>	Now you are free )
nov. 29 18:41:11 <pango>	not sure
nov. 29 18:41:53 <fc-arsenal>	why?
nov. 29 18:42:53 <pango>	I feel more free when I earn enough money to do what I please
nov. 29 18:43:52 <fc-arsenal>	oh, sorry.
nov. 29 18:45:56 <pango>	I'll still get money for a while (that's France after all, we get quite good protection), but until I get another job it still feels like it's not exactly money your earned (even if in a way you do)
nov. 29 18:46:38 <fc-arsenal>	I'm sure you can find a good job
nov. 29 18:48:20 <pango>	I never really had to look for one, so it's a bit complicated, also current economic context is not at its best, but well I'm trying to stay confident too
nov. 29 18:50:51 <fc-arsenal>	I understand because I am in about the same situation. But I'm from Russia, I will therefore receive little money so far do not work
nov. 29 18:51:09 <pango>	But right now the hardest is to say "see you tomorrow" to close coworkers, thinking it's probably the last time
nov. 29 18:54:09 <fc-arsenal>	Don't be upset, everything will be fine
nov. 29 18:56:00 <fc-arsenal>	OK, I'm gone
nov. 29 18:56:30 <pango>	sorry it I'm not in a merry mood tonight :p
nov. 29 18:56:42 <pango>	see you fc-arsenal 
nov. 29 18:57:11 <pango>	thanks for the chat
nov. 29 18:58:39 <Dougie187>	I helped someone last night pango. :P
nov. 29 18:58:41 <fc-arsenal>	Thanks you too
nov. 29 18:59:26 <pango>	Dougie187: yeah, I see you doing some support for different timezones, thanks you :)
nov. 29 18:59:32 <fc-arsenal>	All will be good.  Do not worry
nov. 29 18:59:40 <pango>	fc-arsenal: thanks :)
nov. 29 18:59:44 <Dougie187>	np. :D
nov. 29 18:59:52 <Dougie187>	I'm still working on my blizzard crap too. :(
nov. 29 19:00:10 <fc-arsenal>	Bye
nov. 29 19:00:15 <pango>	bye
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nov. 29 19:00:49 <Dougie187>	So, I have my wife's account for D3.
nov. 29 19:01:03 <Dougie187>	And I'm considering trying to get banned, but somehow log information that proves I didn't hack
nov. 29 19:01:09 <Dougie187>	but I'm not sure what information I can log to do that.
nov. 29 19:01:12 <Dougie187>	Any ideas?
nov. 29 19:01:34 <pango>	that's going to be very difficult
nov. 29 19:01:40 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 29 19:01:52 <pango>	as there's an almost infinite number of ways one could eventually cheat
nov. 29 19:02:11 <pango>	it's easier to prove one's cheated than the reverse
nov. 29 19:02:13 <Dougie187>	as well as an almost infinite number of ways one could get banned for not cheating. :P
nov. 29 19:02:24 <pango>	(even if that can be complicated on its own)
nov. 29 19:02:24 <Dougie187>	I agree. It's almost impossible for me to prove I didn't cheat
nov. 29 19:02:36 <Dougie187>	well, proving you cheated could be really easy.
nov. 29 19:02:44 <pango>	yup
nov. 29 19:02:49 <Dougie187>	It could be as simple as showing a video of you doing something that is cheating
nov. 29 19:04:25 <Dougie187>	I basically need to come up with a way to determine what they though was cheating, and show them it's not cheating. Or somehow prove that I wasn't cheating to begin with
nov. 29 19:05:13 <pango>	I remember discussions about using gdb, or possibly have gdb around
nov. 29 19:05:44 <Dougie187>	I spoke with the gdb people. And they said there's not really any way for gdb to step on another programs ram
nov. 29 19:06:28 <Dougie187>	And, on top of that, ptrace freezes the other processes before debugging them. So when they get un-suspended they don't have any idea they were debugged.
nov. 29 19:06:31 <Dougie187>	not that I used ptrace.
nov. 29 19:06:46 <pango>	maybe, but are Blizzard hacking team aware, or do agree with that
nov. 29 19:07:05 <Dougie187>	I don't know if they are aware. And they won't agree with anything.
nov. 29 19:07:10 <Dougie187>	They won't answer my questions in any way.
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nov. 29 19:07:28 <marcus-pol>	asf
nov. 29 19:07:30 <Dougie187>	I asked if gdb or segfaults could be considered as hacking to them, and they said that was too much info and they wouldn't answer it
nov. 29 19:07:58 <pango>	the point here may not be to determine what is an effective way of cheat, as much as what could look suspicious to Blizzard
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nov. 29 19:08:13 <pango>	that may be different, it's hard to tell
nov. 29 19:08:27 <Dougie187>	Yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out.
nov. 29 19:08:44 <Dougie187>	I need to determine what happened on our systems that looks suspicious. And prove to Blizzard that it can happen without cheating.
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nov. 29 19:09:19 <pango>	yup, but I'm under the impression we discussed that already :p
nov. 29 19:10:00 <Dougie187>	well, I had two ideas of things that could look suspicious. But I don't know if they do, and I also don't know if everyone else who was wrongly banned had the same things show up.
nov. 29 19:11:27 <Dougie187>	And, vexorian had another idea for something that could look suspicious. So again as you said, there are an infinite number of things that could look suspicious. And nothing that I've done so far has made it obvious that one of those things happened on my system.
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nov. 29 19:12:25 <pango>	could also be that they have some kind of test suite with associated weights
nov. 29 19:13:01 <pango>	nothing specifically suspicious, just a sum of of different small things adding up
nov. 29 19:13:13 <pango>	(just thinking out loud here)
nov. 29 19:13:21 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 29 19:14:27 <pango>	several accounts behind a NAT, mmmh add few points, that kind of things
nov. 29 19:15:02 <Dougie187>	yeah. Though that seems like a really bad thing to add points for. :P
nov. 29 19:15:23 <Dougie187>	Especially since it is perfectly conceivable that one NAT has several gamers who play the same game behind it.
nov. 29 19:15:33 <pango>	who knows, that could be some pattern often observed during hacks
nov. 29 19:15:50 <Dougie187>	true.
nov. 29 19:15:59 <pango>	like, used to trigger some bug, of control something,...
nov. 29 19:16:07 <Dougie187>	Well, the problem is they have to detect something that violates their terms of use.
nov. 29 19:16:29 <Dougie187>	Which are here (for me at least) http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/d3_eula.html
nov. 29 19:16:54 <Dougie187>	So, really section 2 is the one with the list.
nov. 29 19:17:02 <Dougie187>	and they detect it by section 7
nov. 29 19:17:49 <Dougie187>	So, A, F, G, and I are easily dismissed.
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nov. 29 19:18:39 <Dougie187>	Unless somehow people purchasing duped items on the auction houses is against the TOS, even if you don't know about it.
nov. 29 19:18:48 <Dougie187>	But, they explicitly said D for me.
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nov. 29 19:19:01 <Dougie187>	Though, D could also mean B
nov. 29 19:19:49 <pango>	no preloaded libraries?
nov. 29 19:19:59 <Dougie187>	No?
nov. 29 19:20:27 <pango>	I mean, do you use preloaded libraries?
nov. 29 19:20:43 <pango>	$LD_PRELOAD
nov. 29 19:22:48 <Dougie187>	nope.
nov. 29 19:22:53 <pango>	Just trying to think of ways code could "invite" itself into game process address space
nov. 29 19:23:47 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 29 19:24:03 <Dougie187>	yeah, LD_PRELOAD is empty.
nov. 29 19:26:30 <pango>	POL sets $PATH and $ LD_LIBRARY_PATH so that "wine" refers to the installed Wine version, and to eventually use bundled libraries too
nov. 29 19:26:52 <pango>	it _could_ look a bit suspicious that not all libs come from /lib, /usr/lib and the like
nov. 29 19:27:32 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 29 19:27:43 <Dougie187>	but then they really would be banning for the use of Play on linux.
nov. 29 19:28:22 <pango>	yes, but if they do random sampling, it could just be what they're doing... Just not all of them at once :p
nov. 29 19:28:38 <Dougie187>	yeah
nov. 29 19:28:48 <Dougie187>	So, randomly banning play on linux users. :P
nov. 29 19:29:00 <pango>	was POL mentionned with them?
nov. 29 19:30:06 <Dougie187>	No
nov. 29 19:30:33 <pango>	so we don't know what they think of such tool
nov. 29 19:31:02 <pango>	we'd need stories of people being banned with plain Wine, for instance
nov. 29 19:31:20 <Dougie187>	http://pastebin.com/Yvjh1xvH
nov. 29 19:31:23 <Dougie187>	Well, that's vexorian
nov. 29 19:31:53 <Dougie187>	vexorian was banned without using play on linux
nov. 29 19:31:59 <pango>	ok
nov. 29 19:32:00 <Dougie187>	and they claim the ban had nothing to do with linux or wine
nov. 29 19:33:34 <Dougie187>	Though, vexorian was subsequently unbanned.
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nov. 29 19:39:59 <pango>	what's ironic, is that to get the game to work, you have to disable the yama patch, widening the number of processes that can potentially pick into other processes memory
nov. 29 19:40:13 <pango>	s/pick/peek/
nov. 29 19:40:55 <pango>	at least I think we can assume all Ubuntu users playing D3 had to do the same
nov. 29 19:42:01 <Dougie187>	No, you don't have to do that.
nov. 29 19:42:03 <Dougie187>	that's only for SC2
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nov. 29 19:42:36 <Dougie187>	However, sometimes I played SC2 first, and then would switch over to D3.
nov. 29 19:42:44 <Dougie187>	So, D3 would be running with the yama patch disabled.
nov. 29 19:43:04 <pango>	ok
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nov. 29 19:48:48 <Dougie187>	So, right now possibly suspicious activities I have are. Out of bounds memory access (segfault) and yama patch disabled.
nov. 29 19:48:59 <Dougie187>	Though, the gdb people were pretty convinced the yama patch couldn't cause an issue like this
nov. 29 19:49:23 <pango>	you mean, cause the segfault?
nov. 29 19:49:46 <Dougie187>	No, they made it seem like the yama patch wasn't something you could possibly detect.
nov. 29 19:50:02 <pango>	mmmh
nov. 29 19:51:03 <pango>	at one time I wondered if their team didn't know Linux and would only apply knowledge of Windows hacking to Linux/Wine environment
nov. 29 19:51:19 <Dougie187>	thats what I was thinking too.
nov. 29 19:51:22 <pango>	but since they're doing tests etc, it's definitely not the case
nov. 29 19:51:31 <Dougie187>	Also, I don't know if it's even possible to hack in wine.
nov. 29 19:51:36 <Dougie187>	Like, if any of the hacks actually run
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nov. 29 19:52:01 <pango>	so there could be Linux-specific antihacking checks, using Linux-specific info like stuff from /proc
nov. 29 19:52:08 <Dougie187>	It's certainly possible to try and read the ram that the game is running in. but I would doubt that you could download any hack program for D3 and have it successfully run.
nov. 29 19:52:17 <Dougie187>	I don't think that's the case.
nov. 29 19:52:31 <Dougie187>	Keep in mind, you're running the same warden that everyone else is running
nov. 29 19:52:35 <Dougie187>	or, windows users at least.
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nov. 29 19:54:54 <pango>	I wonder if they could accept to give you more info under NDA (then again I may just be dreaming :D)
nov. 29 19:55:40 <Dougie187>	You are dreaming. I suggested that to the CS manager who threatened me
nov. 29 19:55:43 <Dougie187>	and he didn't respond at all
nov. 29 19:55:52 <pango>	ok :P
nov. 29 19:55:54 <Dougie187>	:P but it's a good idea.
nov. 29 19:59:22 <Dougie187>	It seems like they are not willing to work with anyone on issues like this, and they also are not willing to provide any useful information.
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nov. 29 20:39:10 <mdhussain-pol>	Hi all, any clue when installing office 2010, I recieve "Installation language not supported" on fedora
nov. 29 20:39:20 <mdhussain-pol>	I am using fedora 17
nov. 29 20:41:27 <Dougie187>	What language do you use?
nov. 29 20:42:58 <mdhussain-pol>	english
nov. 29 20:43:22 <pango>	If you find, that's bug report #1594
nov. 29 20:43:30 <pango>	http://www.playonlinux.com/en/issue-1594.html
nov. 29 20:44:08 <mdhussain-pol>	oh i see, let me go through that
nov. 29 20:44:26 <Dougie187>	It doesn't really tell you how to fix it.
nov. 29 20:45:28 <mdhussain-pol>	saw that :)
nov. 29 20:45:56 <mdhussain-pol>	probably have to wait till its fixed.
nov. 29 20:46:04 <Dougie187>	http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17336
nov. 29 20:46:06 <mdhussain-pol>	tried various options whole day
nov. 29 20:46:06 <Dougie187>	It says it works here.
nov. 29 20:47:53 <mdhussain-pol>	ya, but even here some one posted a comment for this issue
nov. 29 20:48:08 <mdhussain-pol>	but no fix yet
nov. 29 20:48:43 <Dougie187>	You went through the how-to?
nov. 29 20:58:05 <mdhussain-pol>	all other wine dependencies are installed
nov. 29 20:58:11 <mdhussain-pol>	did not get how to set  WINEARCH=win32
nov. 29 20:58:21 <mdhussain-pol>	I am installing using playonLinux
nov. 29 20:58:48 <mdhussain-pol>	wine version is 1.5.16
nov. 29 21:02:19 <Dougie187>	hey pango is there anything I would need to do to run an executable with setarch within PoL?
nov. 29 21:05:44 <pango>	I'm not sure what's the best way, as far as I know there's nothing dedicated to setarch
nov. 29 21:06:03 <Dougie187>	And you can't wrap the wine command within PoL in a setarch?
nov. 29 21:06:22 <pango>	I'd add a POL_Shortcut_InsertBeforeWine instruction to define $BEFORE_WINE
nov. 29 21:06:31 <pango>	and put the setarch statement in it
nov. 29 21:07:01 <Dougie187>	How about if I edit the shortcut?
nov. 29 21:07:11 <Dougie187>	And change POL_Wine 'Diablo III Launcher.exe' "$@"
nov. 29 21:07:16 <Dougie187>	to setarch... POL_Wine 'Diablo III Launcher.exe' "$@"
nov. 29 21:07:31 <pango>	that may break some shortcut parsing
nov. 29 21:07:51 <pango>	but adding a line like BEFORE_WINE='setarch ...' before this line should work
nov. 29 21:08:01 <pango>	at least on recent-enough POL versions
nov. 29 21:08:06 <Dougie187>	4.1.8 :P
nov. 29 21:08:22 <pango>	yup
nov. 29 21:08:37 <pango>	just mentionning that in case you'd like to write a script ;)
nov. 29 21:08:49 <Dougie187>	but BEFORE_WINE gets executed prior to the wine line?
nov. 29 21:08:55 <Dougie187>	not on the same line, right?
nov. 29 21:09:19 <pango>	extract from lib/wine.lib::POL_Wine()
nov. 29 21:09:28 <pango>	        $BEFORE_WINE $(POL_Config_Read BEFORE_WINE) wine "$@" 2> >(grep -v menubuilder --line-buffered | tee -a "$LOGFILE" "$WINEPREFIX/playonlinux.log" >&2) > >(tee -a "$LOGFILE
nov. 29 21:09:28 <pango>	" "$WINEPREFIX/playonlinux.log")
nov. 29 21:09:54 <pango>	wine command will be prefixed with $BEFORE_WINE environment variable
nov. 29 21:10:00 <Dougie187>	ok
nov. 29 21:10:00 <Dougie187>	:D
nov. 29 21:10:05 <pango>	(and then by the setting by the same name)
nov. 29 21:13:38 <Dougie187>	I'm going to make a starter edition account tonight and try it with that shortcut
nov. 29 21:14:10 <Dougie187>	Though, I should really make two starter edition accounts. And try each with one of the shortcuts. And see if either of them gets banned.
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nov. 29 21:15:20 <pango>	it may take a while
nov. 29 21:15:34 <Dougie187>	yeah, especially since I don't know if they regularly ban users.
nov. 29 21:15:38 <Dougie187>	or if it's only in waves.
nov. 29 21:15:42 <pango>	yup
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nov. 29 21:28:40 <Dougie187>	pango: what are the logs in ~/.playonlinx/logs?
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nov. 29 21:29:04 <sam-pol>	Hi, I am having some problems getting the game : The War Z running completely.
nov. 29 21:29:21 <sam-pol>	The Game does run and launch, but upon entering the lobby it is very slow.
nov. 29 21:29:32 <sam-pol>	Is there a way to enable multi-core processing?
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nov. 29 21:35:10 <sam-pol>	??
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nov. 29 21:51:03 <pango>	Dougie187: installation logs
nov. 29 21:51:21 <Dougie187>	Oh ok
nov. 29 21:51:51 <pango>	sam-pol: I'm not sure what you mean by multi-core processing, Wine uses available cores, unless you force some cpu affinity on it
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nov. 29 22:10:04 <sam-pol>	then i am unsure. I had the game working flawlessly before, now its acting very slow.
nov. 29 22:10:17 <sam-pol>	All it requires is dx9_36 and vcrun2008
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nov. 29 22:20:13 <Dougie187>	I just got into the steam linux beta. :D
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nov. 29 22:59:04 <julio-pol>	The PlayOnLinux installs all the programs that run on windows?
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nov. 29 23:18:34 <dominik-pol>	hi
nov. 29 23:18:40 <Dougie187>	hey
nov. 29 23:18:49 <dominik-pol>	trying to instal office 2010
nov. 29 23:19:03 <dominik-pol>	is it working fine?
nov. 29 23:19:11 <dominik-pol>	what about cracked ver?
nov. 29 23:19:16 <Dougie187>	sometimes? I haven't tried it but someone was complaining about it earlier.
nov. 29 23:19:22 <dominik-pol>	shit
nov. 29 23:19:24 <Dougie187>	cracked versions are not supported in here.
nov. 29 23:19:30 <dominik-pol>	got it
nov. 29 23:19:40 <Dougie187>	Someone said they had an issue with the install language not being supported or something like that
nov. 29 23:19:43 <Dougie187>	and the installer wouldn't owkr
nov. 29 23:19:45 <Dougie187>	work*
nov. 29 23:19:51 <Dougie187>	but I don't have Office 2010, so I can't test it. :P
nov. 29 23:20:05 <dominik-pol>	now i have liboffice
nov. 29 23:20:12 <Dougie187>	me too
nov. 29 23:20:15 <dominik-pol>	but it's different than office
nov. 29 23:20:29 <dominik-pol>	even in displaying some statistics
nov. 29 23:20:38 <dominik-pol>	for example
nov. 29 23:21:13 <dominik-pol>	in office there is 100% displayed, but in liboffice is displayed as "1". the same is with lower values
nov. 29 23:21:32 <dominik-pol>	in office 97%, in liboffice 0,97....
nov. 29 23:21:34 <Dougie187>	you can format cells.
nov. 29 23:21:39 <dominik-pol>	how?
nov. 29 23:21:45 <Dougie187>	Right click on the cell maybe?
nov. 29 23:21:50 <dominik-pol>	will try
nov. 29 23:22:26 <Dougie187>	yeah, you right click on the cell and go to "Format Cells..."
nov. 29 23:22:39 <Dougie187>	and then you can select what it should print (percent or whatever) and how many decimal places it should show
nov. 29 23:23:04 <dominik-pol>	ok, but everytime, when i receive file, i must do this again right?
nov. 29 23:23:19 <dominik-pol>	is it possible to change default values in liboffice for this?
nov. 29 23:23:32 <Dougie187>	there might be, I'm not sure
nov. 29 23:23:37 <Dougie187>	I don't use office applications that often
nov. 29 23:23:46 <dominik-pol>	let's try
nov. 29 23:24:33 <dominik-pol>	that's kind of weird..
nov. 29 23:24:57 <Dougie187>	?
nov. 29 23:25:17 <dominik-pol>	when i pressed clear direct formatting, the vallue now is displayed properly. lol
nov. 29 23:25:40 <Dougie187>	heh
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nov. 29 23:26:48 <dominik-pol>	thanks for hint.
nov. 29 23:26:59 <Dougie187>	np
nov. 29 23:27:09 <dominik-pol>	i'm going to have some sleep. conference tomorrow... all day
nov. 29 23:27:16 <dominik-pol>	good night
nov. 29 23:27:27 <Dougie187>	Night
nov. 29 23:27:28 <Dougie187>	have fun!
nov. 29 23:27:37 <dominik-pol>	yeah.. boring stuff
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nov. 30 01:38:36 <gbaghdo-pom>	hello?
nov. 30 01:39:02 <gbaghdo-pom>	anyone online?
nov. 30 01:39:33 <Dougie187>	Hey
nov. 30 01:39:34 <Dougie187>	Hows it going?
nov. 30 01:40:13 <gbaghdo-pom>	hello, i just installed playonmac, i want to be able to play warcraft 3 on my mac that have mountain lion.
nov. 30 01:40:34 <Dougie187>	why don't you just install it?
nov. 30 01:40:42 <gbaghdo-pom>	Thing is i dont know if i should use warcraft for pc or mac to be able to install it with playonmac
nov. 30 01:40:43 <Dougie187>	Most Blizzard games work on macs just fine
nov. 30 01:40:56 <Dougie187>	if you use warcraft for mac, you don't need playonmac
nov. 30 01:41:07 <Dougie187>	play on mac is for windows games that you want to play on mac.
nov. 30 01:41:19 <gbaghdo-pom>	problem is that warcraft doesnt support intel-mac they have ppc
nov. 30 01:41:45 <Dougie187>	I don't think that's correct.
nov. 30 01:42:01 <gbaghdo-pom>	yes but wc3 dosnt work on lion or mountain lion
nov. 30 01:42:22 <gbaghdo-pom>	you can google it if you like "play wc3 on mountain lion"
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nov. 30 01:44:19 <gbaghdo-pom>	any idea?
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nov. 30 01:45:23 <Dougie187>	Well, if you want to install it with PoM you have to use the windows version
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nov. 30 01:49:16 <Dougie187>	gbaghdo-pom: have you tried downloading the client?
nov. 30 01:49:32 <gbaghdo-pom>	witch one?
nov. 30 01:49:50 <Dougie187>	the mac one?
nov. 30 01:49:53 <Dougie187>	Does that one not work too?
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nov. 30 01:56:57 <gbaghdo-pom>	i have downloaded wc3 for mac before but it wont work
nov. 30 01:57:17 <Dougie187>	ok. Well you could try it with the windows one.
nov. 30 02:02:27 <gbaghdo-pom>	but how does playonmac work, when i press install wc3 i need to navigate to a cd or a file in,
nov. 30 02:02:53 <gbaghdo-pom>	I have a macbook air so a the cd part i inpossible for me
nov. 30 02:03:06 <Dougie187>	download the windows client then?
nov. 30 02:03:14 <Dougie187>	and then install using that?
nov. 30 02:03:16 <gbaghdo-pom>	but if i navigate to a file should i navigate to a windows or mac wc3 file?
nov. 30 02:03:28 <gbaghdo-pom>	ok thank u will try that now
nov. 30 02:04:06 <Dougie187>	ok
nov. 30 02:04:07 <Dougie187>	np
nov. 30 02:04:53 <gbaghdo-pom>	anyone have a nice torrent?
nov. 30 02:05:00 <gbaghdo-pom>	or know one
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nov. 30 02:25:42 <gbaghdo-pom>	it worked now i just need a cd-key
nov. 30 02:26:13 <Dougie187>	Nice
nov. 30 02:26:18 <Dougie187>	there should be one where you downloaded it?
nov. 30 02:26:40 <Dougie187>	in your online battle net account you should be able to get a cd-key
nov. 30 02:26:46 <Dougie187>	at least, if you legally own it. :P
nov. 30 02:27:10 <gbaghdo-pom>	yes i have an account but i dont know if it still works
nov. 30 02:27:37 <Dougie187>	It should
nov. 30 02:27:51 <Dougie187>	Did you link WC3 to your b.net account?
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nov. 30 04:33:21 <javo-pol>	hello
nov. 30 04:33:42 <javo-pol>	some body speak spanish?
nov. 30 04:34:55 <javo-pol>	some body helpme?
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nov. 30 04:41:14 <javo-pol>	hellooooo!! ¡?!
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nov. 30 07:12:40 <avis-pol>	ola
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nov. 30 08:14:20 <isnandu>	hi, anybody play drakensang???
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nov. 30 13:26:11 <virus-pol>	HI! MOTHAFUCKAZZZ!!!
nov. 30 13:26:55 <virus-pol>	russian here!
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nov. 30 13:58:02 <vennenno>	hola
nov. 30 13:58:02 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel vennenno
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nov. 30 14:05:11 <martin-pol>	bonjour à tous
nov. 30 14:05:20 <martin-pol>	j'ai installé internet explorer 7
nov. 30 14:05:40 <martin-pol>	mais quand je veux naviguer sur des sites avec du ssl et un certificat autosigné
nov. 30 14:05:49 <martin-pol>	quand je dis que je veux truster le site
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nov. 30 14:06:29 <martin-pol>	je me récupère un res://ieframe.dll/
nov. 30 14:06:48 <martin-pol>	dans la barre d'adresse et du coup bah… pas la page que je voulais
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nov. 30 14:19:09 <martin-pol>	désolé petit crash
nov. 30 14:19:25 <martin-pol>	du coup est-ce que cela dit quelque chose à quelqu'un?
nov. 30 14:43:04 <martin-pol>	en fait je peux tout simplement pas visiter les trois quarts des pages
nov. 30 14:45:16 <martin-pol>	ah apparemment je ne suis pas le seul à avoir des pbs avec internet explorer 7
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nov. 30 14:53:39 <ruby_>	Does anyone know about installing VC++ runtime?
nov. 30 15:03:36 <martin-pol>	okay so after a few tries, it is ieframe.dll
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nov. 30 16:35:05 <sam-pol>	fixme:mscoree:CLRMetaHost_GetRuntime Unrecognized version L"v4.0"fixme:wincodecs:PngDecoder_Block_GetCount 0x18cc740,0x32de0c: stub
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nov. 30 17:19:10 <Dougie187>	Hows it going everyone?
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nov. 30 17:36:50 <Dougie187>	Marmotte: any luck with your letter so far?
nov. 30 17:37:08 <Marmotte>	didn't have time to write :(
nov. 30 17:37:14 <Dougie187>	:( that's too bad,.
nov. 30 17:37:23 <Dougie187>	Still no positive feedback from Blizz?
nov. 30 17:37:35 <Marmotte>	no new feedback
nov. 30 17:37:47 <Dougie187>	lame
nov. 30 17:37:49 <Marmotte>	they didn't answer my second email
nov. 30 17:38:00 <Dougie187>	Are you submitting tickets still? or is it just that email?
nov. 30 17:38:10 <Dougie187>	The manager stopped responding to my emails now too.
nov. 30 17:38:27 <Dougie187>	I'm going to try making two starter edition accounts something this weekend.
nov. 30 17:38:32 <Marmotte>	I don't submit a lot
nov. 30 17:38:34 <Dougie187>	one I'm going to use setarch, and the other I'm not going to
nov. 30 17:38:40 <Marmotte>	I wait to write my letter now
nov. 30 17:38:48 <Dougie187>	so, we'll see if one of the two get banned.
nov. 30 17:39:04 <Dougie187>	but I'm also mailing my letter to the CEO, the director of customer support, and just the company in general
nov. 30 17:39:34 <Dougie187>	I have them printed out,  I just need to put them in the mail
nov. 30 17:40:32 <Dougie187>	I have a feeling it's not setarch though
nov. 30 17:40:40 <Dougie187>	since there are reports on winehq that people using setarch got banned too
nov. 30 17:49:02 <Dougie187>	Marmotte: can you get the information related to your ban through the EU laws on information privacy stuff?
nov. 30 17:49:58 <Marmotte>	don't know
nov. 30 17:50:25 <Dougie187>	Some people have told me that in the EU they are required to provide you with the information, or a refund. Because of some consumer protection act.
nov. 30 17:50:32 <Marmotte>	I'll try to get informations, but don't have much time :(
nov. 30 17:50:46 <Marmotte>	yes, I think it's possible
nov. 30 17:51:05 <Dougie187>	That's fine.
nov. 30 17:51:13 <Dougie187>	I just think it might be interesting to know the info
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nov. 30 17:53:32 <Dougie187>	and possibly useful to reproduce it. :P
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nov. 30 17:58:54 <sam-pol>	anyone know how to fix fixme:d3d:resource_check_usage Unhandled usage flags 0x8.
nov. 30 18:00:04 <sam-pol>	the error occured after trying to change video settings in one of my games
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nov. 30 18:00:18 <sam-pol>	then wine gave me an error unable to change d3d ...
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nov. 30 18:07:05 <sam-pol>	???
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nov. 30 18:31:10 <sam-pol>	i dont get why things would mess up after I change video settings
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nov. 30 18:33:22 <usuario-pol>	hola
nov. 30 18:33:22 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel usuario-pol
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nov. 30 19:12:44 <kristoffer-pol>	anyone here running cs:go under ubuntu 12.10 64?
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nov. 30 19:19:27 <sam-pol>	I still havent found any workarounds yet
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nov. 30 19:21:10 <nipah-pol>	how do I update (is there a tool)
nov. 30 19:22:14 <Dougie187>	you can use your package manager to update
nov. 30 19:22:47 <sam-pol>	I've tried uninstalling the wine versions from PoL and reinstalling them... no luck
nov. 30 19:23:10 <sam-pol>	That d3d compiler issue is a pita
nov. 30 19:23:23 <Dougie187>	what game are you playing?
nov. 30 19:23:39 <nipah-pol>	lol herp derp thanks
nov. 30 19:23:45 <Dougie187>	np :P
nov. 30 19:23:48 <sam-pol>	Well, I installed and played the game "The War Z" perfectly...
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nov. 30 19:24:02 <sam-pol>	and it play perfectly until you want to change video settings
nov. 30 19:24:14 <sam-pol>	from there it says unable to change setting while d3d...
nov. 30 19:24:17 <sam-pol>	etc
nov. 30 19:24:47 <sam-pol>	and then wine crashes, and restarting the game- going into the main menu it lags like no other
nov. 30 19:25:06 <sam-pol>	as if changing the settings messed up the drivers
nov. 30 19:25:28 <sam-pol>	so im going around an reinstalling my drives... I even tried a fix for the wine drive.c
nov. 30 19:25:33 <Dougie187>	weird.
nov. 30 19:25:37 <Dougie187>	Did you install directx?
nov. 30 19:25:42 <sam-pol>	yeah
nov. 30 19:26:02 <sam-pol>	let me run it again and give you the code
nov. 30 19:26:11 <sam-pol>	hold on as it lag the ENTIRE computer
nov. 30 19:26:36 <sam-pol>	ok, on first startup before even starting the game I get
nov. 30 19:26:49 <sam-pol>	[11/30/12 12:26:16] - Running wine-1.5.18 WarZlauncher.exe (Working directory : /home/sam/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/The_War_Z/drive_c/Program Files/The War Z)fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x32f580,0x00000000), stub!fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x32f48c,0x00000000), stub!fixme:d3d:resource_check_usage Unhandled usage flags 0x8.fixme:d3d:resource_check_usage Unhandled usage flags 0x8.fixme:d3d:resource_check_usage Un
nov. 30 19:26:59 <Dougie187>	You should put that in pastebin.
nov. 30 19:27:00 <Dougie187>	not in here
nov. 30 19:28:12 <sam-pol>	http://pastebin.com/NtbNrSmE
nov. 30 19:29:01 <sam-pol>	not even going to start the game as it lags the entire system up
nov. 30 19:29:43 <sam-pol>	when i do a clean install of fedora and everything
nov. 30 19:29:48 <sam-pol>	then install the game
nov. 30 19:29:57 <sam-pol>	it works fine --- until i change the video settings
nov. 30 19:30:09 <sam-pol>	I even get decent FPS while actually playing 20-30
nov. 30 19:30:37 <sam-pol>	I have an ATI Radeon HD 5770 if it makes a difference
nov. 30 19:31:04 <Dougie187>	have you checked in #winehq?
nov. 30 19:31:09 <sam-pol>	yep
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nov. 30 19:31:31 <Dougie187>	I don't think I can be of any help. Sorry. :(
nov. 30 19:31:52 <sam-pol>	hehe its ok...
nov. 30 19:31:55 <sam-pol>	It really weird
nov. 30 19:32:03 <sam-pol>	cause the game works for clean installs of fedora
nov. 30 19:32:38 <sam-pol>	imma do a restart soon and see if some of my "fixes" fixed anything
nov. 30 19:32:47 <sam-pol>	brb
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nov. 30 19:35:14 <sam-pol>	wish me luck
nov. 30 19:35:48 <sam-pol>	seems to have the same error
nov. 30 19:36:04 <sam-pol>	lets see if actually running it does anything different
nov. 30 19:36:51 <sam-pol>	well ill be damned
nov. 30 19:36:56 <sam-pol>	something I did fixed it
nov. 30 19:38:47 <sam-pol>	it actually seems to be working better
nov. 30 19:40:34 <sam-pol>	well there is one of the many mysteries to linux -_-
nov. 30 19:40:47 <sam-pol>	I did so many "fixes" that I can't pinpoint what I did LOL
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nov. 30 19:51:12 <reme-pol>	Привет!Ребят не подскажите здесь есть проги для калибровки батареи?
nov. 30 19:51:12 <PlayOnLinux>	Please speak french or english in this channel reme-pol
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nov. 30 19:59:29 <sam-pol>	and it ran into the error again -_-
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nov. 30 21:48:51 <spankysquirrel-p>	Hey!
nov. 30 21:49:24 <spankysquirrel-p>	Can someone help me?
nov. 30 21:49:57 <spankysquirrel-p>	Hello?
nov. 30 21:50:24 <spankysquirrel-p>	Plz help me
nov. 30 21:52:57 <Dougie187>	How's it going?
nov. 30 22:12:47 <spankysquirrel-p>	Im trying to install an XBOX 360 emulator .exe in playonlinux
nov. 30 22:17:25 <Dougie187>	Is it rated to work with wine?
nov. 30 22:29:16 <spankysquirrel-p>	No.
nov. 30 22:29:53 <spankysquirrel-p>	IDK if i need to install some other libraries?
nov. 30 22:31:17 <Dougie187>	I have no idea.
nov. 30 22:31:29 <Dougie187>	If it's not rated to work on wine, then you're treading in unknown territory.
nov. 30 22:31:49 <spankysquirrel-p>	Ye, but i will still try
nov. 30 22:34:05 <Dougie187>	yeah, I'm just saying that you're probably not going to get much help from people. Though you could try in winehq, they might be able to help you with untested programs more.
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nov. 30 22:36:24 <n3na3-pol>	hello
nov. 30 22:36:28 <pango>	hi n3na3-pol 
nov. 30 22:36:46 <n3na3-pol>	hello
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nov. 30 22:37:09 <Dougie187>	lol
nov. 30 22:37:24 <Dougie187>	It's funny how people just drop in and leave right away.
nov. 30 22:37:54 <spankysquirrel-p>	Nah, i guess i will go back to PC, since theres no Linux emulators for consoles
nov. 30 22:38:05 <Dougie187>	there are some
nov. 30 22:38:10 <Dougie187>	but maybe not for xbox 360
nov. 30 22:38:22 <spankysquirrel-p>	I was hoping to make an amazing all-in-all gaming system
nov. 30 22:38:31 <spankysquirrel-p>	IDK, 1 last try i guess
nov. 30 22:45:24 <spankysquirrel-p>	Think i found one, http://www.ps3hax.net/2011/05/sixaxis-emulator-play-ps3-games-with-keyboard-and-mouse/
nov. 30 22:45:45 <spankysquirrel-p>	Oh no...
nov. 30 22:45:46 <spankysquirrel-p>	NVM
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nov. 30 22:48:45 <spankysquirrel-p>	This one seems alright
nov. 30 22:48:47 <spankysquirrel-p>	http://pleasantfiction.ipower.com/bodega/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=555#p3238
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